Chaos continues as snow and ice grip Hampshire (From Daily Echo)

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

countrywench wrote:
As much as i adore the snow because it makes my tatty garden look like everyone elses ! This morning is a suprise ! I dont remember ever seeing a dumping of snow this deep in all my 48 years ! So beautiful ! But hubby has called , he's a bus driver , and NONE of the main roads in Eastleigh have been gritted ?? Again Britain grinds to a halt because of poor council planning .. Well i'm now off to work , pushing my bike and using it as a stabliliser !! Haaha apt security word PAIN-FOOT lol !!!

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

Rax wrote:
I've got 10 inches in Shirley and it's starting to harden up.

Cyber-Fug wrote:
Is this the snow that Southy said we would never get ??

Cyber-Fug wrote:
Is this the snow that Southy said we would never get ??

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

AndyM76 wrote:
It's a shame, but not surprising, to see some of the comments from people criticising the council already. Gritting and salt can only do so much. They cannot stop 15cm of snow from settling on a road, especially when there are few vehicles passing over it to help break up the falling snow. Sometimes we have to take responsibility for ourselves, which might mean snow chains on the car, or shoe covers to help you walk.

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

fairoak2eastleigh wrote:

AndyM76 wrote:
It's a shame, but not surprising, to see some of the comments from people criticising the council already. Gritting and salt can only do so much. They cannot stop 15cm of snow from settling on a road, especially when there are few vehicles passing over it to help break up the falling snow. Sometimes we have to take responsibility for ourselves, which might mean snow chains on the car, or shoe covers to help you walk.

Amen!! it seems everyone jumps down the councils troat the first chance they get. They are out risking their lives to grit our roads and all people can do is moan. I think echo and its readers should give the council a break their doing what they can and they DONT CONTROL THE WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

fairoak2eastleigh wrote:

AndyM76 wrote: It's a shame, but not surprising, to see some of the comments from people criticising the council already. Gritting and salt can only do so much. They cannot stop 15cm of snow from settling on a road, especially when there are few vehicles passing over it to help break up the falling snow. Sometimes we have to take responsibility for ourselves, which might mean snow chains on the car, or shoe covers to help you walk.

Amen!! it seems everyone jumps down the councils troat the first chance they get. They are out risking their lives to grit our roads and all people can do is moan. I think echo and its readers should give the council a break their doing what they can and they DONT CONTROL THE WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

Agreed about the gritting not helping with heavy snow but what about the new partnership and snowploughs??? Thank you to all those who are trying to do their jobs in difficult conditions though :)

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

southy wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

cic not go over my head at all, was trying to hide it from the echo. it will only get deleted now.

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

Get real, this is the worst snowfall we have had in most peoples living memory, how do you expect a country that gets this once in every umpteen years to be equipped to cope, and what exactly are you doing to help? Just be patient, grit needs traffic over it to activate it, there is no magic solution, even a coalition government haven't got the powers to make it go away. By Saturday I bet, here, we will be back to normal, the plus temperatures will gradually see a melting of what we have. The simple answer today is that if you have no real need to travel, don't do it. enjoy its beauty and wait for the improvement, it is weather, not a major disaster.

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?!

I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

SFC4EVA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

Get real, this is the worst snowfall we have had in most peoples living memory, how do you expect a country that gets this once in every umpteen years to be equipped to cope, and what exactly are you doing to help? Just be patient, grit needs traffic over it to activate it, there is no magic solution, even a coalition government haven't got the powers to make it go away. By Saturday I bet, here, we will be back to normal, the plus temperatures will gradually see a melting of what we have. The simple answer today is that if you have no real need to travel, don't do it. enjoy its beauty and wait for the improvement, it is weather, not a major disaster.

I am being real. Work needed to be done so I got to work to do it. Too many people willing to take an easy day off in this country hense its going down the pan.

Authorities are there to deal with stuff like this and they were ill prepared which is made worse by the fact that we had the same last year yet it is no different this time around!!

You're right it is only weather so why does everything stop! It is winter winter weather will come. The 'powers that be' should be equipt to deal with it to ensure the country keeps going.

The snow fall in southampton is not extreme and its no where near as bad a the stuff we had in Jan!

Time to man up people.

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

blowers are better ploughs i think. the council had one back in the sixty's

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

cic not go over my head at all, was trying to hide it from the echo. it will only get deleted now.

Wrong yet again!

Also, the direction of approach was nothing to do with river valleys. Straight from the north east. Never mind, you can always go back to the volcanic ash excuse!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

blowers are better ploughs i think. the council had one back in the sixty's

Oh, well they must be better then

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

Get real, this is the worst snowfall we have had in most peoples living memory, how do you expect a country that gets this once in every umpteen years to be equipped to cope, and what exactly are you doing to help? Just be patient, grit needs traffic over it to activate it, there is no magic solution, even a coalition government haven't got the powers to make it go away. By Saturday I bet, here, we will be back to normal, the plus temperatures will gradually see a melting of what we have. The simple answer today is that if you have no real need to travel, don't do it. enjoy its beauty and wait for the improvement, it is weather, not a major disaster.

I am being real. Work needed to be done so I got to work to do it. Too many people willing to take an easy day off in this country hense its going down the pan. Authorities are there to deal with stuff like this and they were ill prepared which is made worse by the fact that we had the same last year yet it is no different this time around!! You're right it is only weather so why does everything stop! It is winter winter weather will come. The 'powers that be' should be equipt to deal with it to ensure the country keeps going. The snow fall in southampton is not extreme and its no where near as bad a the stuff we had in Jan! Time to man up people.

So, just to be clear: are you actually talking about the weather in this one?

Rax wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

blowers are better ploughs i think. the council had one back in the sixty's

Oh, well they must be better then

I was still waiting for the end of the post.

The sixty's what, southy?

southy wrote:

Cyber-Fug wrote: Is this the snow that Southy said we would never get ??

thats not what i said cyber 1 out of 10 for effort, i said the downs and the plain protects us from the worse, unless it comes down the river valleys, like it did last year when the itchen side got snow, the test was near on clear of snow, and that what it did do last night come down the river valleys, both of them, it snowed in romsey 15 mins before it got here, north baddesley it started to snow about the same time has it did here. whitch is a sure sign its coming down the river valleys, and not over the top of the plain or downs. for it to snow the clouds have got to be the low level type (round about 6,000 feet) to high and it comes down has ice rain, the downs pushes the clouds higher up, so when the clouds come over the hampshire basin they are to high for snow.

Miles Way wrote:

Rax wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

blowers are better ploughs i think. the council had one back in the sixty's

Oh, well they must be better then

I was still waiting for the end of the post.

The sixty's what, southy?

I'm sure Southy will "prove" me wrong but blowers are expensive and slow - to clears roads effectively you need ploughs.
Of course Southy will know better, after all, I only live in rural Canada where we get several feet of the white stuff every year!
Just take it slow and careful over there folks, nothings important enough that it can't be done safely
Incidentally we still haven't snow yet here - I'm blaming Maggie.

freefinker wrote:
.. I think it should have ended "but thatcher got rid of it in the eighty's".
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Is 2nd December southy's annual 'Thatcher Free Day' when he promises her name will never be rattled off his keyboard?
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s/w slip-path, honest.

southy wrote:

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

cic not go over my head at all, was trying to hide it from the echo. it will only get deleted now.

Wrong yet again! Also, the direction of approach was nothing to do with river valleys. Straight from the north east. Never mind, you can always go back to the volcanic ash excuse!

it had a lot to do with river valleys, like the river test valley starts up by basingstoke, if it did not come down the river valley the ir would of started to snow in romsey the same time has us, and north baddsley it would of snowed there before here and romsey, but it did not it snowed in romsey first then 15 mins later started to snow in north baddsley and here. it like last winter snow came down the itchen valley but not down the test valley, thats why last winter you had most of the snow and we pick up the left over over this side. and it has a lot to do with volcanic ash, check your history and weather records, one of the best records was the one by benjamin franklin 1800's when he was in paris and the summer that never was, and the earliest snow falls on records that stayed on the ground, and the freezing up of the thames and the fairs that they held on the ice

Smiley69 wrote:
I don't know what the fuss is about - every woman knows that 6 inches aint that much ;)

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

cic not go over my head at all, was trying to hide it from the echo. it will only get deleted now.

Wrong yet again! Also, the direction of approach was nothing to do with river valleys. Straight from the north east. Never mind, you can always go back to the volcanic ash excuse!

it had a lot to do with river valleys, like the river test valley starts up by basingstoke, if it did not come down the river valley the ir would of started to snow in romsey the same time has us, and north baddsley it would of snowed there before here and romsey, but it did not it snowed in romsey first then 15 mins later started to snow in north baddsley and here. it like last winter snow came down the itchen valley but not down the test valley, thats why last winter you had most of the snow and we pick up the left over over this side. and it has a lot to do with volcanic ash, check your history and weather records, one of the best records was the one by benjamin franklin 1800's when he was in paris and the summer that never was, and the earliest snow falls on records that stayed on the ground, and the freezing up of the thames and the fairs that they held on the ice

So nothing to do with wind direction, and the way clouds blow our way then? How about when we get a westerly air flow? Does it not follow that it rains in Bournemouth, then Ringwood, and then here? So why would it not be quite logical for clouds to blow in from the North East, from Basingstoke, then Winchester, then Baddesley, and finally Millbrook, when the airflow is from the North-East? Does the river valley run all the way over to Dorchester? I am sure it snowed there too? This is absolute nonsense Southy. How on earth do you know what time it started snowing everywhere? Its all made up Southy, and you know it is!

Big Mac wrote:

Smiley69 wrote: I don't know what the fuss is about - every woman knows that 6 inches aint that much ;)

Ahh, but, when they're unexpectedly confronted with it at soon as you wake up, the reality of it all can often raise more than just a smile.

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

You need it dumbed down? Ok, pay attention: You have prattled on repeatedly about what "they" should have done, and given the context, it's pretty clear you think "they" should cope with the weather - you know, the subject-at-hand - better. Trying to wriggle out of it by some "I never actually said 'weather'" technicality is actually an admission that you have no faith in your own argument. Well done

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

You need it dumbed down? Ok, pay attention: You have prattled on repeatedly about what "they" should have done, and given the context, it's pretty clear you think "they" should cope with the weather - you know, the subject-at-hand - better. Trying to wriggle out of it by some "I never actually said 'weather'" technicality is actually an admission that you have no faith in your own argument. Well done

Your argument is very strange.

I never once said the Government should control the weather or make an agreement with god as you put it.

I am not trying to wriggle out of anything. I stated;

"Granted they cannot control the weather" and never once suggested that the government or council should be able to control the weather. I said that they should have been better prepared as this was pre-warned and lessons should have been learnt after the snow in Jan.

So your argument is where?

southy wrote:

Miles Way wrote:

Rax wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:
the councils simply need to buy plough attachments for the front of refuse lorries and have an overnight ploughing and salting operation. They have not got the ability to co-ordinate this sadly.

blowers are better ploughs i think. the council had one back in the sixty's

Oh, well they must be better then

I was still waiting for the end of the post.

The sixty's what, southy?

I'm sure Southy will "prove" me wrong but blowers are expensive and slow - to clears roads effectively you need ploughs.
Of course Southy will know better, after all, I only live in rural Canada where we get several feet of the white stuff every year!
Just take it slow and careful over there folks, nothings important enough that it can't be done safely
Incidentally we still haven't snow yet here - I'm blaming Maggie.

now now miles stop blaming maggie, :-)
could it be that there is to much snow for them to work well miles, or the snow to fine and compact, the one we had here in southampton back in the sixy's, had a hopper on the back, when it was filled up they use to run it to the park and dump it there, they made a nice snow hill.

Milly Moppet wrote:
The few Barratt Homes staff who made it into work at the Hinkler Place development showed real community spirit this morning - they were out on Hinkler Road with shovels clearing snow, rescuing drivers who got stuck in skids, and using their own plant equipment to grit the road, thus keeping it open to traffic. They deserve a big gold star!

stay local wrote:

southy wrote:

Cyber-Fug wrote: Is this the snow that Southy said we would never get ??

thats not what i said cyber 1 out of 10 for effort, i said the downs and the plain protects us from the worse, unless it comes down the river valleys, like it did last year when the itchen side got snow, the test was near on clear of snow, and that what it did do last night come down the river valleys, both of them, it snowed in romsey 15 mins before it got here, north baddesley it started to snow about the same time has it did here. whitch is a sure sign its coming down the river valleys, and not over the top of the plain or downs. for it to snow the clouds have got to be the low level type (round about 6,000 feet) to high and it comes down has ice rain, the downs pushes the clouds higher up, so when the clouds come over the hampshire basin they are to high for snow.

I agree Southy you did not say that we would never get snow , what you said was ‘the snow in the Hampshire basin is different from the snow else where because it clogs up snow socks, because the snow in the Hampshire basin is damper and turns to slush more quickly.’
Which of course is twisting your words except these are you words here:-
southy, redbridge says...
1:23pm Sat 27 Nov 10
those tyre socks are a good item to have they work well in most parts of the country, but the snow we tend to get here in the hampshire basin tend to clog them up very quickly, the snow here tends to be damper and turns to slush quicker then freezes up.
How have you made this claim, is it once again “Southy’s book of complete balderdash”
Why should the snow in the Hampshire valley differ from that in the Thames valley? Could it be the amount of retained air with in the crystalline structure if the ice crystals… if so we would need to consult one of the research chemists who looked at this… Only your best friend: Margaret Thatcher. The lovely lady who you have yet to thank for supporting the socialist cause by offering life tenancies in council houses!
More importantly if your cloud height theory is correct, why do we get snow on mountains? Again your words….
southy, redbridge says...
10:24am Thu 2 Dec 10
for it to snow the clouds have got to be the low level type (round about 6,000 feet) to high and it comes down has ice rain, the downs pushes the clouds higher up, so when the clouds come over the hampshire basin they are to high for snow

Also I think you will find most people call ice rain ….’Hail’. Have you been practicing long to be an idiot because you are getting better at it

SpittingFire wrote:

Milly Moppet wrote:
The few Barratt Homes staff who made it into work at the Hinkler Place development showed real community spirit this morning - they were out on Hinkler Road with shovels clearing snow, rescuing drivers who got stuck in skids, and using their own plant equipment to grit the road, thus keeping it open to traffic. They deserve a big gold star!

Aww! Take a pic of these guys and send it to the Echo!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

You need it dumbed down? Ok, pay attention: You have prattled on repeatedly about what "they" should have done, and given the context, it's pretty clear you think "they" should cope with the weather - you know, the subject-at-hand - better. Trying to wriggle out of it by some "I never actually said 'weather'" technicality is actually an admission that you have no faith in your own argument. Well done

Your argument is very strange. I never once said the Government should control the weather or make an agreement with god as you put it. I am not trying to wriggle out of anything. I stated; "Granted they cannot control the weather" and never once suggested that the government or council should be able to control the weather. I said that they should have been better prepared as this was pre-warned and lessons should have been learnt after the snow in Jan. So your argument is where?

My argument is above you. Perhaps it would help if you explained what you meant by the apparently-meaningle ss comment "their best obviously isn't good enough". Or would you prefer to carry on trying some linguistic gymnastics in lieu of actual debate?

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

You need it dumbed down? Ok, pay attention: You have prattled on repeatedly about what "they" should have done, and given the context, it's pretty clear you think "they" should cope with the weather - you know, the subject-at-hand - better. Trying to wriggle out of it by some "I never actually said 'weather'" technicality is actually an admission that you have no faith in your own argument. Well done

Your argument is very strange. I never once said the Government should control the weather or make an agreement with god as you put it. I am not trying to wriggle out of anything. I stated; "Granted they cannot control the weather" and never once suggested that the government or council should be able to control the weather. I said that they should have been better prepared as this was pre-warned and lessons should have been learnt after the snow in Jan. So your argument is where?

My argument is above you. Perhaps it would help if you explained what you meant by the apparently-meaningle ss comment "their best obviously isn't good enough". Or would you prefer to carry on trying some linguistic gymnastics in lieu of actual debate?

What is so difficult to understand?!

I quoted freemantlegirl2's comment about the council clearing the roads which said "They are doing their best"

I replied "Their best obviously isn't good enough" with regards to the fact the council isn't doing a very good job of clearing the roads.

Then you go off on some tangent. Is the cold getting to you? How can I make it any clearer?

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Milly Moppet wrote:
The few Barratt Homes staff who made it into work at the Hinkler Place development showed real community spirit this morning - they were out on Hinkler Road with shovels clearing snow, rescuing drivers who got stuck in skids, and using their own plant equipment to grit the road, thus keeping it open to traffic. They deserve a big gold star!

Aww! Take a pic of these guys and send it to the Echo!

Infact if this all happened a day earlier you could have put them in for an I Am Southampton Award! Deadline passed yesterday, but as I've seen with certain other competitions if you can knock up something good with a mix up of the various highlighted entries chosen and get it in past a deadline, along with a little bit extra, they won't mind! They'll most probably end up giving you the prize anyway! They can't resist!

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

IanRRR wrote:

southy wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

cic not go over my head at all, was trying to hide it from the echo. it will only get deleted now.

Wrong yet again! Also, the direction of approach was nothing to do with river valleys. Straight from the north east. Never mind, you can always go back to the volcanic ash excuse!

it had a lot to do with river valleys, like the river test valley starts up by basingstoke, if it did not come down the river valley the ir would of started to snow in romsey the same time has us, and north baddsley it would of snowed there before here and romsey, but it did not it snowed in romsey first then 15 mins later started to snow in north baddsley and here. it like last winter snow came down the itchen valley but not down the test valley, thats why last winter you had most of the snow and we pick up the left over over this side. and it has a lot to do with volcanic ash, check your history and weather records, one of the best records was the one by benjamin franklin 1800's when he was in paris and the summer that never was, and the earliest snow falls on records that stayed on the ground, and the freezing up of the thames and the fairs that they held on the ice

So nothing to do with wind direction, and the way clouds blow our way then? How about when we get a westerly air flow? Does it not follow that it rains in Bournemouth, then Ringwood, and then here? So why would it not be quite logical for clouds to blow in from the North East, from Basingstoke, then Winchester, then Baddesley, and finally Millbrook, when the airflow is from the North-East? Does the river valley run all the way over to Dorchester? I am sure it snowed there too? This is absolute nonsense Southy. How on earth do you know what time it started snowing everywhere? Its all made up Southy, and you know it is!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

SFC4EVA wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote: http://www.southampt on.gov.uk/s-environm ent/roadsandparking/ roadsmaintenance/gri ttingandsnowclearanc e.aspx see this, to read you would think they would have it all in hand. The ice is a problem tomorrow, they should try and plough major routes and then grit to ice isn't a hazard like last time. They are doing their best , there's more info this year. Off out in the car later, before ice sets in!

Their best obviously isnt good enough! Whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable for the fact that businesses already struggling are going to be badly effected but the poorly run council. Other countries manage. I know other countries are more used to it but this is the way it is going to be time and time again so we should be prepared. Central Government also has to take some responsibility and investment should be made.

And what exactly do you propose "they" do about the weather? Set up an agreement with God?

Where did I say they should do something about the weather?! I said in a previous post that whilst they cannot control the weather they should have plans in place that will work especially as they have had plenty of notice!

Silly me, I assumed that since this was a story about the weather, and all the other comments were about the weather, that your comment was also on-subject. I should have guessed that when you said "their best isn't good enough" and "whoever came up with this poor plan of action should be held accountable", that you were referring to the cost of bread on Guernsey. Everybody else, please take care to explicitly repeat "I am talking about the weather, in this comment on a story about the weather" in every comment you make about the weather, otherwise we may not spot that you are actually talking about the weather, when commenting on this story which is about the weather. *sigh*

What?

You need it dumbed down? Ok, pay attention: You have prattled on repeatedly about what "they" should have done, and given the context, it's pretty clear you think "they" should cope with the weather - you know, the subject-at-hand - better. Trying to wriggle out of it by some "I never actually said 'weather'" technicality is actually an admission that you have no faith in your own argument. Well done

Your argument is very strange. I never once said the Government should control the weather or make an agreement with god as you put it. I am not trying to wriggle out of anything. I stated; "Granted they cannot control the weather" and never once suggested that the government or council should be able to control the weather. I said that they should have been better prepared as this was pre-warned and lessons should have been learnt after the snow in Jan. So your argument is where?

My argument is above you. Perhaps it would help if you explained what you meant by the apparently-meaningle ss comment "their best obviously isn't good enough". Or would you prefer to carry on trying some linguistic gymnastics in lieu of actual debate?

What is so difficult to understand?!

I quoted freemantlegirl2's comment about the council clearing the roads which said "They are doing their best"

I replied "Their best obviously isn't good enough" with regards to the fact the council isn't doing a very good job of clearing the roads.

Then you go off on some tangent. Is the cold getting to you? How can I make it any clearer?

By saying their best isn't good enough, you implicitly think there's something more that could be done. What is that?

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you

-don't-know-what-you

're-talking-about needs

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you


-don't-know-what-you


're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co

planarity_solar_syst

em_and_galaxy.html#a

nchor_21

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you



-don't-know-what-you



're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

Any particular reason why you put quotes around the word people?

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you




-don't-know-what-you




're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

Any particular reason why you put quotes around the word people?

They are not quotes, there are in fact single inverted commas.
There would be no need for quotation marks as people are generally allowed to speak for themselves (sic), whether – (see, still almost staying on topic), – you like it or not.

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co


planarity_solar_syst


em_and_galaxy.html#a


nchor_21

You hate doing what? Actually presenting evidence for your argument? I'll say. It's the first time I've ever seen you do it. Every other time, and I do mean EVERY, you just claim it's up to everyone else to look up the proof for your own arguments. Quite bizarre, really

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you




-don't-know-what-you




're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

Any particular reason why you put quotes around the word people?

They are not quotes, there are in fact single inverted commas.
There would be no need for quotation marks as people are generally allowed to speak for themselves (sic), whether – (see, still almost staying on topic), – you like it or not.

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you





-don't-know-what-you





're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

Any particular reason why you put quotes around the word people?

They are not quotes, there are in fact single inverted commas.
There would be no need for quotation marks as people are generally allowed to speak for themselves (sic), whether – (see, still almost staying on topic), – you like it or not.

Have I at any point even hinted that someone else is not allowed to speak for themselves? No. All that's happened is, I've challenged what I see as a flimsy argument, and some random uninvolved stranger has decided that for some reason he can extrapolate X Y and Z about the character of myself, and those I work with, despite having never met any of us. Bit odd, really, given "his" penchant for freedom of expression. Perhaps you feel that freedom is only extended to those whose view you share?

southy wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co



planarity_solar_syst



em_and_galaxy.html#a



nchor_21

You hate doing what? Actually presenting evidence for your argument? I'll say. It's the first time I've ever seen you do it. Every other time, and I do mean EVERY, you just claim it's up to everyone else to look up the proof for your own arguments. Quite bizarre, really

i hate doing because the post gets removed, plus i do my own research like every body else should do there own, they will learn other new things while they are trying to find what they want to find, and maybe they just might share what they have found out on other things.

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co

planarity_solar_syst

em_and_galaxy.html#a

nchor_21

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

only if i can do a bansky

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Hannibal, it's easy to understand why you operate in a freelance capacity; just imagine if you had to interact with people and their opinions on a daily basis, you'd never get any work done!

What makes you think "freelance" means I don't interact with people? I freelance for months at a time on particular teams. That means "people". Try new "applying thought" for all your not-looking-like-you






-don't-know-what-you






're-talking-about needs

Let's hope the 'people' have a big enough facility to accommodate your ego then.

Any particular reason why you put quotes around the word people?

They are not quotes, there are in fact single inverted commas.
There would be no need for quotation marks as people are generally allowed to speak for themselves (sic), whether – (see, still almost staying on topic), – you like it or not.

Have I at any point even hinted that someone else is not allowed to speak for themselves? No. All that's happened is, I've challenged what I see as a flimsy argument, and some random uninvolved stranger has decided that for some reason he can extrapolate X Y and Z about the character of myself, and those I work with, despite having never met any of us. Bit odd, really, given "his" penchant for freedom of expression. Perhaps you feel that freedom is only extended to those whose view you share?

You're right on one point, wrong on two: sure you're be able to work it out.

Yours truely, random involved stranger.

(Is there any reason you choose to put 'his' in quote marks?)

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co


planarity_solar_syst


em_and_galaxy.html#a


nchor_21

oh southy, you do persist.
.
I have NEVER EVER said "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way" is not factually incorrect. Although “going up and down” does not the correct technical term to describe its relative motion with respect to the galactic plain, I can accept it as a layman’s approximation of the truth.
You may recall, however, that you were stating, on another story, that this phenomenon was a cause of natural climate change - which is absolute total and utter rubbish.
.
That's the problem with you. You occasionally mix with others who do know what they are talking about, and/or watch an informative science documentary, but you are unable to follow the full meaning of what is said and, in addition, are unable put such information into the correct scientific context. Then, several months or years later you regurgitate small snippets of what you think you had remembered, from multiple sources, and put them all together into an endless stream of pure scientific gobbledegook.
.
I’m no meteorologist, thus I haven’t commented on the accuracy of your ‘how snow exclusively works only in Hampshire’ posts – but I’m deeply suspicious from the little I do know that you are again talking twaddle.

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co



planarity_solar_syst



em_and_galaxy.html#a



nchor_21

oh southy, you do persist.
.
I have NEVER EVER said "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way" is not factually incorrect. Although “going up and down” does not the correct technical term to describe its relative motion with respect to the galactic plain, I can accept it as a layman’s approximation of the truth.
You may recall, however, that you were stating, on another story, that this phenomenon was a cause of natural climate change - which is absolute total and utter rubbish.
.
That's the problem with you. You occasionally mix with others who do know what they are talking about, and/or watch an informative science documentary, but you are unable to follow the full meaning of what is said and, in addition, are unable put such information into the correct scientific context. Then, several months or years later you regurgitate small snippets of what you think you had remembered, from multiple sources, and put them all together into an endless stream of pure scientific gobbledegook.
.
I’m no meteorologist, thus I haven’t commented on the accuracy of your ‘how snow exclusively works only in Hampshire’ posts – but I’m deeply suspicious from the little I do know that you are again talking twaddle.

its not twaddle ff, its all got to be taken into account. weather if it happens on the planet or has far out pass our galaxy, man can not alter the weather it is beyond our control.
and the only thing i will agree on some of the green movement is a cleaner, safer and healthier environment for us live in and for the future generations to come. and that,s all. man made climate change is false propaganda, its nature that controls climate, and nature will do what it wants to and when it wants to. we will not be able to stop it.
and to just to get to under stand about climate and weather it has to come from multiple sources, any true climatologist will tell you that, it has to take in from over 100 different branches subjects from the lowest of science to the highest form science, there,s is so much information about it that there is no single computer in the world that could cope with the information.
i all ready know when the true climatologist thinks that they have all the information, they will be doing what nasa did a few years ago, and that is to ask the worlds people for there help in procession the information, by letting them use your,s and mine computer,s.
this is how much information your dealing with.

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

Matt Probert wrote:

Big Mac wrote:

southy wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

7inches here to on top of the wall

Just like the snow Southy, I fear MS's wry comment has gone right over your head!

I feel totally inadequate with my pathetic 4 inches...and soft to boot. Perhaps it may stiffen up this evening?

Matt

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

Everybody got your clever reference, southy. What escapes everyone, is its relevance to anything that's come before

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

SpittingFire wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

Everybody got your clever reference, southy. What escapes everyone, is its relevance to anything that's come before

No, I'm still working on this! I'm afraid I am just too much of the driven snow to digress and latch-on as quickly into the boggy realms of toilet humour. Yes, I am trying to figure out this point you mention Hannibal...

southy wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

no i just got no further use for you, maybe later you might come in use again.

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
.
Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
.
Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
.
A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

Everybody got your clever reference, southy. What escapes everyone, is its relevance to anything that's come before

No, I'm still working on this! I'm afraid I am just too much of the driven snow to digress and latch-on as quickly into the boggy realms of toilet humour. Yes, I am trying to figure out this point you mention Hannibal...

Maybe you're meant to be the brick Hannibal! Is that it?! Have I got it now?!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

no i just got no further use for you, maybe later you might come in use again.

Oh I see, you manipulated me into saying these things! Well done, puppetmaster!

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Big Mac wrote:
Southy, have you been sucking those ice pops again?

Go to any ski resort in the Alps and the size of the snow flakes puts our to shame.
Maybe that's something to do with the Euro, the butter mountains or the fact that you have to drive on the right-hand side of the road, mountains; I'm not sure?

.. or it could be "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way", to quote one southy masterpiece.

well ff when you find out for your self that it is fact our solar system do indeed go up and down in our milky way i will not hold it against you, just say i told you so.

i hate doing this because it don,t tend to say long, but read this ff
http://biocab.org/co




planarity_solar_syst




em_and_galaxy.html#a




nchor_21

oh southy, you do persist.
.
I have NEVER EVER said "the solar system going up and down in the Milky Way" is not factually incorrect. Although “going up and down” does not the correct technical term to describe its relative motion with respect to the galactic plain, I can accept it as a layman’s approximation of the truth.
You may recall, however, that you were stating, on another story, that this phenomenon was a cause of natural climate change - which is absolute total and utter rubbish.
.
That's the problem with you. You occasionally mix with others who do know what they are talking about, and/or watch an informative science documentary, but you are unable to follow the full meaning of what is said and, in addition, are unable put such information into the correct scientific context. Then, several months or years later you regurgitate small snippets of what you think you had remembered, from multiple sources, and put them all together into an endless stream of pure scientific gobbledegook.
.
I’m no meteorologist, thus I haven’t commented on the accuracy of your ‘how snow exclusively works only in Hampshire’ posts – but I’m deeply suspicious from the little I do know that you are again talking twaddle.

its not twaddle ff, its all got to be taken into account. weather if it happens on the planet or has far out pass our galaxy, man can not alter the weather it is beyond our control.
and the only thing i will agree on some of the green movement is a cleaner, safer and healthier environment for us live in and for the future generations to come. and that,s all. man made climate change is false propaganda, its nature that controls climate, and nature will do what it wants to and when it wants to. we will not be able to stop it.
and to just to get to under stand about climate and weather it has to come from multiple sources, any true climatologist will tell you that, it has to take in from over 100 different branches subjects from the lowest of science to the highest form science, there,s is so much information about it that there is no single computer in the world that could cope with the information.
i all ready know when the true climatologist thinks that they have all the information, they will be doing what nasa did a few years ago, and that is to ask the worlds people for there help in procession the information, by letting them use your,s and mine computer,s.
this is how much information your dealing with.

Explain to us how you alone are privvy to all this information, southy

suothy, redbridge wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Theblackcat wrote:
Not the Councils fault just freaky weather ffs just enjoy it.

Yeah Blackcat, I was gonna go on to say that if Maccy and Southy arn't ones for going out to play in this sort of weather, let's all get together and go over to, say to your place Maccy and I'll bring me crayons with me! You know I'm one for me crayons! An' if you're not one for doing a bit o' hand drawing I got me a great selection of colouring books you can indulge in too!
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Southy, meet you at Maccy's! A bit of scribbling can do wonders for a bit of squabbling; meant to be very therapeutic you know! Let's heal the rift, I got me-self colouring books an' crayons to go round!

only if its colouring by numbers :-)

Oh yeah! speaking of which, I got me some painting by numbers too, if you wanna mess about wi' a bit o' paint be my guest!

Speaking o' paint. It was a rather unfortunate last week that Banksy blanksy balls-up. I may have just commissioned someone to: "go and do a Banksy, make it for Southy and add in some style" (remember the competition for the first to write Southy for mayor you mentioned then if you recall Maccy).
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Sadly, they may have just interpreted what I might of said into: "do over the Banksy, make it so smudgy, and add in some styles".
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A good lesson for me. If you want a good job doing, you've got to do it yourself!

well you know what they say, don't lick the yellow snow and stay away from brown snow.

where's the brick not seen him in a while

Nope, sorry Southy. I tried to decipher this but you've lost me!

what can make snow yellow, or brown think about it.

Everybody got your clever reference, southy. What escapes everyone, is its relevance to anything that's come before

No, I'm still working on this! I'm afraid I am just too much of the driven snow to digress and latch-on as quickly into the boggy realms of toilet humour. Yes, I am trying to figure out this point you mention Hannibal...

Maybe you're meant to be the brick Hannibal! Is that it?! Have I got it now?!

No, that's not it! Hannibal's too clever for the likes of you or I, it seems

Brite Spark wrote:

One Micky Channon, there's..... wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
I've got 7 inches here this morning and it's still nice and soft.

got 8 inches in Shirley this morning........ and its snowing, Shirleys happy! ;o)

Just keep it clear of your windmill.

SpittingFire wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

no i just got no further use for you, maybe later you might come in use again.

Oh I see, you manipulated me into saying these things! Well done, puppetmaster!

What a shame that this thread has gone down the tube. I get the gist that you fancy yourself as an antagonist Hannibal. Countless times I've seen these comment threads veer off the story their connected to, into such realms as these. Quite embarrassing for the Echo site really. I'm cringing! And it's not from the cold either! Never mind eh, chaps! Mr Burner's just gonna have to get more militant you all and tidy this mess up! Cause for one thing it don't half put other users off, and that's a real shame!
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I can only repeat, Hannibal Lecture is a fictional character. Don't take anything he says seriously.

freefinker wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:

Hannibal Lecture wrote:

southy wrote:
you can all ways tell when hannibal lecture bored he trolls

Ad hominem, already? You flatter me! Thanks for admitting you have no further actual argument to make.

no i just got no further use for you, maybe later you might come in use again.

Oh I see, you manipulated me into saying these things! Well done, puppetmaster!

What a shame that this thread has gone down the tube. I get the gist that you fancy yourself as an antagonist Hannibal. Countless times I've seen these comment threads veer off the story their connected to, into such realms as these. Quite embarrassing for the Echo site really. I'm cringing! And it's not from the cold either! Never mind eh, chaps! Mr Burner's just gonna have to get more militant you all and tidy this mess up! Cause for one thing it don't half put other users off, and that's a real shame!
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I can only repeat, Hannibal Lecture is a fictional character. Don't take anything he says seriously.

.. and SpittingFire's not fictional?
Look SF, I like the way you have continued to post on many a story since your dramatic debut on the website.
But when it comes to "threads veer off the story their connected to", as you say, is that not just a tiny tad of the pot calling the kettle black?
I have yet to see you not turn a story into your pet subject somewhere along the line.

SpittingFire wrote:
Infact I have tried a couple of times to lighten this thread up a bit aswell!

southy wrote:
i was going to go back there and finish the hawaii debate off ff but i got busy on another things.
oh by the way by letting you know where his next lot of instruments was going to be place in antarctica, and that was on a island near deception island, i let you look it up what sort of island that is.

any way where that poster called the brick when you need him, i wanted to ask him some thing, never around when needed.
ECHO can you please send the poster the brick my e-mail address.
might be back later guys

freefinker wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:
Infact I have tried a couple of times to lighten this thread up a bit aswell!

I'll grant you that.
But I also usually find HL's biting comments are often spot on and have me laughing uncontrollably.
The way he demolished forest hump over the death penalty in the USA, for example, was outstanding.

Amusedonlooker wrote:
I'd love southy to publish a book - I need a new night-time read!

Better yet, how dull is his voice? Maybe an audio book would be more useful for dropping off.

Right. To all.

IT IS SNOW. IT IS SLIPPERY. THEREFORE, BE CAREFUL AND TRAVEL ONLY IF IT IS SAFE TO DO SO. Stop expecting the Government to wipe your behinds and do something yourself. Take the dog out, have a day by the fire, go to work. But for goodness sake STOP complaining! I walked a good couple of miles today and you know what? It was very enjoyable! Takes things back to before computer games and TV. It's fun, and it's novel so STOP #''*^&%£ COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

IanRRR wrote:
Can someone tell me what all this spitfire business is about please? From what I can see, someone has a conspiracy theory about how the winner was chosen? Are they saying it was a fiddle? Surely not?! A fiddle in Great Britain? A friend of a friend? Tell us more please.

southy wrote:
SpittingFire you soon learn who are the troll's, and those who have multi accounts, and those who want to destroy the echo web site.
not for a rest by the way just busy.

SpittingFire wrote:

Amusedonlooker wrote:
I'd love southy to publish a book - I need a new night-time read!

Better yet, how dull is his voice? Maybe an audio book would be more useful for dropping off.

Right. To all.

IT IS SNOW. IT IS SLIPPERY. THEREFORE, BE CAREFUL AND TRAVEL ONLY IF IT IS SAFE TO DO SO. Stop expecting the Government to wipe your behinds and do something yourself. Take the dog out, have a day by the fire, go to work. But for goodness sake STOP complaining! I walked a good couple of miles today and you know what? It was very enjoyable! Takes things back to before computer games and TV. It's fun, and it's novel so STOP #''*^&%£ COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

If the course of this tread had stayed on the weather indeed I would too have been of the same mind as you Amusedonlooker, there is so much woe on how we are handling the snow!
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I stayed up extra late last night and went outside for a bit to see the snow falling. It was magical, untouched. And I was surprised to see how light the darkness was for night-time, quite an experience. Such a shame now that everyone's been plodding about in it and now it looks like a right old blotchy mess by comparison to when it first fell.
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Anyway I do hope they'll be enough good stuff left to construct that ill-fated Hancock Spitfire Monument tomorrow. Then, how I'll enjoy watching this calamity melt away when the heat is turned up a bit. (see freefinker, still tapping my pet subject with the news story in one!).

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote:
SpittingFire you soon learn who are the troll's, and those who have multi accounts, and those who want to destroy the echo web site.
not for a rest by the way just busy.

Yes, I am beginning to catch on. As I say though, for the general site visitor who is less aware, these heated exchanges are a bit much, which I'm sure does the Echo site no favours in terms of quality. Although most exchanges are interesting and informed, but not when it gets petty. I also take it that suothy isn't you in another guise then either!

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote: SpittingFire you soon learn who are the troll's, and those who have multi accounts, and those who want to destroy the echo web site. not for a rest by the way just busy.

Yes, I am beginning to catch on. As I say though, for the general site visitor who is less aware, these heated exchanges are a bit much, which I'm sure does the Echo site no favours in terms of quality. Although most exchanges are interesting and informed, but not when it gets petty. I also take it that suothy isn't you in another guise then either!

stay local wrote:

SpittingFire wrote:

southy wrote: SpittingFire you soon learn who are the troll's, and those who have multi accounts, and those who want to destroy the echo web site. not for a rest by the way just busy.

Yes, I am beginning to catch on. As I say though, for the general site visitor who is less aware, these heated exchanges are a bit much, which I'm sure does the Echo site no favours in terms of quality. Although most exchanges are interesting and informed, but not when it gets petty. I also take it that suothy isn't you in another guise then either!

Perhaps you will also identify those who make up stories and when challenged claim their words are being twisted. Alternatively that when several people point out the glaring errors in their statements, they claim they are being harassed by multi name users.

I have a long list of unanswered questions that grow by the day, yet when ever I ask for clarification I get ’do you own research’ which is very difficult when it is the other person who makes the claim which has bee unsubstantiated.

fairoak2eastleigh wrote:

countrywench wrote: As much as i adore the snow because it makes my tatty garden look like everyone elses ! This morning is a suprise ! I dont remember ever seeing a dumping of snow this deep in all my 48 years ! So beautiful ! But hubby has called , he's a bus driver , and NONE of the main roads in Eastleigh have been gritted ?? Again Britain grinds to a halt because of poor council planning .. Well i'm now off to work , pushing my bike and using it as a stabliliser !! Haaha apt security word PAIN-FOOT lol !!!

just to let you know the grit trucks were out at 5.00am this morning gritting the roads as I saw them but the snow was coming down so quick it wasn't making any difference. Southampton Road, Derby Road, Nightengale avenue and Stoneham Lane were all gritted. so dont start moaning about the council when they are out there doing their best.