Shivering Hampshire continues to struggle

Daily Echo: A Range Rover offers assistance in Sholing. Picture by Shelly Fountain A Range Rover offers assistance in Sholing. Picture by Shelly Fountain

STILL in the grip of the coldest weather in years, Hampshire continues to struggle on.

The vast majority of schools across Southampton and the county remain closed today, after temperatures plummeted overnight.

Experts last night warned the big chill is here to stay.

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The Met Office has issued a fresh severe weather warning for widespread icy conditions making conditions treacherous today.

Southampton Airport reopened at 1pm today, after being closed all morning, due to the ice on the ground.

South West Trains is running a revised schedule in the south, meaning many commuters will be unable to complete their journeys as normal.

The rail firm is advising passengers to leave plenty of extra time for journeys, to allow for any delays due to the weather.

Homeowners in the New Forest have also been advised that there will be no refuse collections today or tomorrow.

It was not all bad news however, as youngsters took the opportunity to make the most of the snow.

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8:56am Fri 3 Dec 10

Hantslad says...

I do wish the weather men could at least get the weather forecast partly correct. It is supposed to be a bright morning and yet it is snowing heavily here right now!
I do wish the weather men could at least get the weather forecast partly correct. It is supposed to be a bright morning and yet it is snowing heavily here right now! Hantslad
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9:27am Fri 3 Dec 10

Dasal says...

Hantslad wrote:
I do wish the weather men could at least get the weather forecast partly correct. It is supposed to be a bright morning and yet it is snowing heavily here right now!
Strange- Just a few minutes away and nothing in Bitterne Park !!!
[quote][p][bold]Hantslad[/bold] wrote: I do wish the weather men could at least get the weather forecast partly correct. It is supposed to be a bright morning and yet it is snowing heavily here right now![/p][/quote]Strange- Just a few minutes away and nothing in Bitterne Park !!! Dasal
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9:38am Fri 3 Dec 10

freemantlegirl2 says...

One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.
One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit. freemantlegirl2
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9:49am Fri 3 Dec 10

Chartwell Chappers says...

The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery..... Chartwell Chappers
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9:55am Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.
You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about!
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.[/p][/quote]You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about! Big Mac
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10:02am Fri 3 Dec 10

Dasal says...

Big Mac wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.
You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about!
"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!!
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.[/p][/quote]You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about![/p][/quote]"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!! Dasal
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10:10am Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

Thought they were issued with orange jump suits? Most of them still have their own balaclavas, gloves and ladies tights!
Thought they were issued with orange jump suits? Most of them still have their own balaclavas, gloves and ladies tights! Big Mac
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10:16am Fri 3 Dec 10

Family Bloke says...

Dasal wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.
You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about!
"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!!
Health and Safety won't allow the little darlings to work in these conditions.
[quote][p][bold]Dasal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.[/p][/quote]You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about![/p][/quote]"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!![/p][/quote]Health and Safety won't allow the little darlings to work in these conditions. Family Bloke
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10:40am Fri 3 Dec 10

hulla baloo says...

Family Bloke wrote:
Dasal wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.
You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about!
"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!!
Health and Safety won't allow the little darlings to work in these conditions.
And if somebody slips and falls on the 'cleared' paths. there will be the sue and compensation claims not far behind.
[quote][p][bold]Family Bloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dasal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: One thing I do wish the schools would do is get secondary pupils to go and clear a few drives, paths for the elderly/disabled or something when there's a cold snap. They should keep a list of people who may need 'help' and send teams of young people out to them whilst they aren't at school for a couple of hours and it could count as a citizenship qualification or something. Colleges/Unis ought to follow suit.[/p][/quote]You forgot those issued with community service. There again, it's unlikely rewarding enough for them to get enthused about![/p][/quote]"Community Service" - they wont let them go out in the cold, will they - must be something in "human rights" about it !!![/p][/quote]Health and Safety won't allow the little darlings to work in these conditions.[/p][/quote]And if somebody slips and falls on the 'cleared' paths. there will be the sue and compensation claims not far behind. hulla baloo
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11:19am Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!! davesbabe
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11:35am Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

Ooops, someone got out of the wrong side of bed!
Ooops, someone got out of the wrong side of bed! Big Mac
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11:36am Fri 3 Dec 10

downfader says...

I would like to thank First Bus for the fact that I phoned into work to get a last minute annual leave... their website stated that there was no service in the thornhill, sholing and woolston areas at 6am. Then at 7am when I'm clearing the front of ice I see a no10 bus roll past my house. Cheers for that. Thought they were cancelled.
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Yesterday I walked it, full 6 miles. Fine in loose snow, compacted its lethal even in walking shoes. I have spiked shoe covers but the ice was too hard this morning for them to puncture.
I would like to thank First Bus for the fact that I phoned into work to get a last minute annual leave... their website stated that there was no service in the thornhill, sholing and woolston areas at 6am. Then at 7am when I'm clearing the front of ice I see a no10 bus roll past my house. Cheers for that. Thought they were cancelled. . Yesterday I walked it, full 6 miles. Fine in loose snow, compacted its lethal even in walking shoes. I have spiked shoe covers but the ice was too hard this morning for them to puncture. downfader
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11:54am Fri 3 Dec 10

Jerry Parsons says...

Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself. Jerry Parsons
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12:11pm Fri 3 Dec 10

listentome says...

downfader wrote:
I would like to thank First Bus for the fact that I phoned into work to get a last minute annual leave... their website stated that there was no service in the thornhill, sholing and woolston areas at 6am. Then at 7am when I'm clearing the front of ice I see a no10 bus roll past my house. Cheers for that. Thought they were cancelled. . Yesterday I walked it, full 6 miles. Fine in loose snow, compacted its lethal even in walking shoes. I have spiked shoe covers but the ice was too hard this morning for them to puncture.
Exactly, the Firstbus website said the 10 and 8 routes would only be going from Lordshill centre, I bypassed my usual stop, only to be 'between' stops when a 10 comes along on its normal route. And the driver had the nerve to tell some of us off for not being at a specified stop and for flagging her down between stops.

davesbabe -some elderly folk don't have anyone to help them !!
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: I would like to thank First Bus for the fact that I phoned into work to get a last minute annual leave... their website stated that there was no service in the thornhill, sholing and woolston areas at 6am. Then at 7am when I'm clearing the front of ice I see a no10 bus roll past my house. Cheers for that. Thought they were cancelled. . Yesterday I walked it, full 6 miles. Fine in loose snow, compacted its lethal even in walking shoes. I have spiked shoe covers but the ice was too hard this morning for them to puncture.[/p][/quote]Exactly, the Firstbus website said the 10 and 8 routes would only be going from Lordshill centre, I bypassed my usual stop, only to be 'between' stops when a 10 comes along on its normal route. And the driver had the nerve to tell some of us off for not being at a specified stop and for flagging her down between stops. davesbabe -some elderly folk don't have anyone to help them !! listentome
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12:12pm Fri 3 Dec 10

downfader says...

davesbabe wrote:
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
As a matter of fact clearing snow is easy. Clearing the trodden in lumps of ice after a few hours is not.
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But still, that is quite a comment to leave, LOL!
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact clearing snow is easy. Clearing the trodden in lumps of ice after a few hours is not. . But still, that is quite a comment to leave, LOL! downfader
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12:48pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
[quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night. southy
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12:50pm Fri 3 Dec 10

freemantlegirl2 says...

I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems !
I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems ! freemantlegirl2
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12:55pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Cyber-Fug says...

southy wrote:
Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
Land Rover brands include Defender, Discovery, Freelander and Range Rover - the ranger rover models are Range Rover, Vogue & Sport - Therefore Landrover Discovery is not a Range Rover
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night.[/p][/quote]Land Rover brands include Defender, Discovery, Freelander and Range Rover - the ranger rover models are Range Rover, Vogue & Sport - Therefore Landrover Discovery is not a Range Rover Cyber-Fug
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12:58pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Cyber-Fug says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems !
Well done FMG2.... it only takes a small bit of effort like that but many find it easier to sit of their arris's and complain about it.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems ![/p][/quote]Well done FMG2.... it only takes a small bit of effort like that but many find it easier to sit of their arris's and complain about it. Cyber-Fug
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1:00pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Dasal says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems !
Seconded FMG. Just been from here to Portswood . then Bitterne and council have done good on main drag.

Credit where its due !!!
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: I've just been from our house to town and would like to congratulate the city council as all the main roads are really clear!! I know those on foot are struggling, and we cleared the road outside our house this morning, if you whack the ice with a shovel vertically it breaks and you can then sweep away, if everyone did a little bit we could do more to clear side roads :) got there and back without any problems ![/p][/quote]Seconded FMG. Just been from here to Portswood . then Bitterne and council have done good on main drag. Credit where its due !!! Dasal
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1:02pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

southy wrote:
Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning!

(The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!)
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night.[/p][/quote]Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning! (The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!) Big Mac
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1:18pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

Cyber-Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
Land Rover brands include Defender, Discovery, Freelander and Range Rover - the ranger rover models are Range Rover, Vogue & Sport - Therefore Landrover Discovery is not a Range Rover
very true cyber, and all on the range rover chassis and body shell. your right there chartwell chappers.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber-Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night.[/p][/quote]Land Rover brands include Defender, Discovery, Freelander and Range Rover - the ranger rover models are Range Rover, Vogue & Sport - Therefore Landrover Discovery is not a Range Rover[/p][/quote]very true cyber, and all on the range rover chassis and body shell. your right there chartwell chappers. southy
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1:19pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

Big Mac wrote:
southy wrote:
Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning!

(The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!)
how cold did it get where you are mac any idea.
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night.[/p][/quote]Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning! (The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!)[/p][/quote]how cold did it get where you are mac any idea. southy
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1:32pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

southy wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
southy wrote:
Chartwell Chappers wrote:
The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....
and a discovery is a range rover.

Mac -7c to -8c here last night.
Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning!

(The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!)
how cold did it get where you are mac any idea.
Guessing about the same here in West End; on high ground, surrounded by trees, so maybe not quite as low? Lovely now, ideal for photography with first signs of snow melting!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chartwell Chappers[/bold] wrote: The "Range Rover" is actually a Discovery.....[/p][/quote]and a discovery is a range rover. Mac -7c to -8c here last night.[/p][/quote]Thanks for info Southy. That would explain why I had icicles hanging from my icicles this morning! (The Range Rover is out of shot – seriously no one would expect one of these to stop and help out, too many more important things to do!)[/p][/quote]how cold did it get where you are mac any idea.[/p][/quote]Guessing about the same here in West End; on high ground, surrounded by trees, so maybe not quite as low? Lovely now, ideal for photography with first signs of snow melting! Big Mac
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1:53pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

i am only a few inches above sea level here, got a thaw going on here to out in the open. if they are right about the long range forecast this was meant to happen late saturday and into sunday then back in the cold again. its come a day early dam weather persons.
i am only a few inches above sea level here, got a thaw going on here to out in the open. if they are right about the long range forecast this was meant to happen late saturday and into sunday then back in the cold again. its come a day early dam weather persons. southy
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1:54pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!!
i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!! davesbabe
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1:59pm Fri 3 Dec 10

freefinker says...

davesbabe wrote:
i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!!
.. but why not?
She's not made of porcelain, is she?
It’s not slavery – just being neighbourly, like you yourself have been.
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!![/p][/quote].. but why not? She's not made of porcelain, is she? It’s not slavery – just being neighbourly, like you yourself have been. freefinker
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1:59pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
[quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!! davesbabe
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2:14pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

davesbabe wrote:
Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!![/p][/quote]What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone. Big Mac
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2:23pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.
what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!!
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!![/p][/quote]What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.[/p][/quote]what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!! davesbabe
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2:24pm Fri 3 Dec 10

MGRA says...

My Child is as school , the school is open. It was not dangerous to get there and the school is safe. OK so secondary schools have much more inter-class movement and are hard to make safe. But most primary schools should have opened today.
My Child is as school , the school is open. It was not dangerous to get there and the school is safe. OK so secondary schools have much more inter-class movement and are hard to make safe. But most primary schools should have opened today. MGRA
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2:32pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

freefinker wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!!
.. but why not?
She's not made of porcelain, is she?
It’s not slavery – just being neighbourly, like you yourself have been.
um yeah actually she is she has hypermobile joints and if she slips shes likely to dislocate something!, and if adults did it thered be no need for children to would there? the problem is too many adults are too lazy and leave their children to do everything, i just dont think a bit of snow is worth your children getting injured when you can quite easily clear it yourself, the snow that was down yesterday, wasnt too bad and it wasnt slippery so the kids could have helped then admittedly but today its just not safe!
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: i never said i myself wouldnt do it, just that i wouldnt allow my 12 year old to do it!, she is not a slave has done nothing wrong so why should she have to risk her personal safety for someone she doesnt know? i have been helping my neighbours by clearing their paths etc because theyre old, i just said i wouldnt allow my child to do it!!![/p][/quote].. but why not? She's not made of porcelain, is she? It’s not slavery – just being neighbourly, like you yourself have been.[/p][/quote]um yeah actually she is she has hypermobile joints and if she slips shes likely to dislocate something!, and if adults did it thered be no need for children to would there? the problem is too many adults are too lazy and leave their children to do everything, i just dont think a bit of snow is worth your children getting injured when you can quite easily clear it yourself, the snow that was down yesterday, wasnt too bad and it wasnt slippery so the kids could have helped then admittedly but today its just not safe! davesbabe
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2:36pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

MGRA wrote:
My Child is as school , the school is open. It was not dangerous to get there and the school is safe. OK so secondary schools have much more inter-class movement and are hard to make safe. But most primary schools should have opened today.
what school is that? none are open here! i suppose if your journey is along all the main roads youre safe but the roads surrounding our schools and the way to the schools here are all like an ice rink so theres no way they would have gone, also its not just about the pupils getting there its the teaching staff etc too, my husband went to work today and yesterday when lots didnt!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: My Child is as school , the school is open. It was not dangerous to get there and the school is safe. OK so secondary schools have much more inter-class movement and are hard to make safe. But most primary schools should have opened today.[/p][/quote]what school is that? none are open here! i suppose if your journey is along all the main roads youre safe but the roads surrounding our schools and the way to the schools here are all like an ice rink so theres no way they would have gone, also its not just about the pupils getting there its the teaching staff etc too, my husband went to work today and yesterday when lots didnt! davesbabe
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2:41pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

davesbabe wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.
what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!!
For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far?

Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging.
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!![/p][/quote]What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.[/p][/quote]what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!![/p][/quote]For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far? Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging. Big Mac
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2:43pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Jonesy 87 says...

lighten up people! a day off school and building snowmen/sledging is the best bit of fun any kid should be able to enjoy.

No work will be done at school anyway, they'll just be talking about the snow, but like offices....
lighten up people! a day off school and building snowmen/sledging is the best bit of fun any kid should be able to enjoy. No work will be done at school anyway, they'll just be talking about the snow, but like offices.... Jonesy 87
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2:45pm Fri 3 Dec 10

freemantlegirl2 says...

davesbabe wrote:
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni.

I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)!
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!![/p][/quote]Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni. I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)! freemantlegirl2
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2:47pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.
what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!!
For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far?

Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging.
if it wasnt aimed at me why did you directly quote me and comment then? for the record we do give our cookies and cakes to the neighbours, and im not in a hole or digging maybe you are though eh?,
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!![/p][/quote]What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.[/p][/quote]what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!![/p][/quote]For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far? Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging.[/p][/quote]if it wasnt aimed at me why did you directly quote me and comment then? for the record we do give our cookies and cakes to the neighbours, and im not in a hole or digging maybe you are though eh?, davesbabe
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2:52pm Fri 3 Dec 10

freemantlegirl2 says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni.

I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)!
Oh and my youngest are disabled, they both have hypotonia and I obviously cannot expect them to do anything as they have difficulties. When they're older perhaps. I've seen plenty of kids out and about today but obviously if a child has a disability they cannot. I do feel strongly we should all be asking our kids to do more things in the community as a whole and getting into the habit of helping others out. As my youngest children also benefit from a lot of organisations, we like to 'give something back' too !
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!![/p][/quote]Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni. I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)![/p][/quote]Oh and my youngest are disabled, they both have hypotonia and I obviously cannot expect them to do anything as they have difficulties. When they're older perhaps. I've seen plenty of kids out and about today but obviously if a child has a disability they cannot. I do feel strongly we should all be asking our kids to do more things in the community as a whole and getting into the habit of helping others out. As my youngest children also benefit from a lot of organisations, we like to 'give something back' too ! freemantlegirl2
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2:53pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni.

I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)!
i dont wrap my kids up in cotton wool, i just like them to be safe, maybe if more adults did things it would be left to the kids to just be kids?, my children do alot in the community as do i, would the community help me if i needed it? probably not because im not old or disabled, children nowadays are more likely to throw snow at you than to help you to be perfectly honest and i dont want children like that, so theyre brought up with morals and manners and are taught to help anyone that needs it not just old or disabled people, fair enough if you would let your daughter thats your decision, i was just saying i wouldnt let mine!
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!![/p][/quote]Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni. I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)![/p][/quote]i dont wrap my kids up in cotton wool, i just like them to be safe, maybe if more adults did things it would be left to the kids to just be kids?, my children do alot in the community as do i, would the community help me if i needed it? probably not because im not old or disabled, children nowadays are more likely to throw snow at you than to help you to be perfectly honest and i dont want children like that, so theyre brought up with morals and manners and are taught to help anyone that needs it not just old or disabled people, fair enough if you would let your daughter thats your decision, i was just saying i wouldnt let mine! davesbabe
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2:57pm Fri 3 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!!
Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni.

I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)!
Oh and my youngest are disabled, they both have hypotonia and I obviously cannot expect them to do anything as they have difficulties. When they're older perhaps. I've seen plenty of kids out and about today but obviously if a child has a disability they cannot. I do feel strongly we should all be asking our kids to do more things in the community as a whole and getting into the habit of helping others out. As my youngest children also benefit from a lot of organisations, we like to 'give something back' too !
exactly i have 2 disabled kids apart from the one with hypermobile joints and thats why we give back too, i have no problem with it as long as theyre safe, my children have no qualms helping others because of the way they have been brought up but i just want them to be safe whilst doing it!
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: why should my child have to go out in the cold, at risk to herself to clear someone driveway that she doesnt know?, they cant go to school because its too dangerous so why would she go to someones house and clear their drive??, why dont you do it?, its not just the schools that are keeping the children off some of us parents dont think its safe enough for them to go either, so i certainly wouldnt allow her to be out clearing the snow!! family should do their own relatives paths and drives, the way it used to be!![/p][/quote]Calm down dear, it's only a suggestion. And FYI we HAVE done it for several neighbours, my eldest who is 20 and at uni. I certainly wouldn't object to my daughter doing it, if it was organised in teams for safety and under supervision. Even if it was just visiting some elderly people with Age Concern (or AgeUK as they're now called). I guess I'm slightly less suspicious of people and don't feel I have to wrap up my kids in cotton wool and want them to learn to be useful members of society. Frankly I don't see anything wrong with that but each to their own :)![/p][/quote]Oh and my youngest are disabled, they both have hypotonia and I obviously cannot expect them to do anything as they have difficulties. When they're older perhaps. I've seen plenty of kids out and about today but obviously if a child has a disability they cannot. I do feel strongly we should all be asking our kids to do more things in the community as a whole and getting into the habit of helping others out. As my youngest children also benefit from a lot of organisations, we like to 'give something back' too ![/p][/quote]exactly i have 2 disabled kids apart from the one with hypermobile joints and thats why we give back too, i have no problem with it as long as theyre safe, my children have no qualms helping others because of the way they have been brought up but i just want them to be safe whilst doing it! davesbabe
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2:59pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Hantslad says...

I cleared my elderly neighbours drive and went shopping for her whilst children nearby were throwing snowballs at cars. I should have made better use of the shovel!
I cleared my elderly neighbours drive and went shopping for her whilst children nearby were throwing snowballs at cars. I should have made better use of the shovel! Hantslad
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3:13pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

davesbabe wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
davesbabe wrote:
Jerry Parsons wrote:
Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown.

I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.
maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!!
What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.
what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!!
For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far?

Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging.
if it wasnt aimed at me why did you directly quote me and comment then? for the record we do give our cookies and cakes to the neighbours, and im not in a hole or digging maybe you are though eh?,
Ouch! Let's hope that at least those cookies have cooled down a bit!
[quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davesbabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry Parsons[/bold] wrote: Davesbabe.......what a shining example of community spirit you have shown. I hope that, should you ever need help you are not so unfortunate as to meet someone like yourself.[/p][/quote]maybe you should reread my original post where in there did i say i dont have community spirit and that i wouldnt help people myself??, i just love my children and wouldnt want them to get hurt so i wouldnt let them do it but would gladly do it myself which i have done!![/p][/quote]What suggests to you that your children may get hurt? Clearing paths, steps etc is generally considered reasonably safe, especially if supervised. An innocent snowball session or sleighing is likely to expose them to more potential harm. If more people unplugged the internet and Xboxes, kids would be more aware that community spirit can be rewarding for everyone.[/p][/quote]what about all the ice out there today then? my children havent been out as i dont want them to slip and fall, community spirit is all well and good but you have to be sensible, my children often help out the neighbours by doing jobs etc for them but not at detriment to their own health, for the record my children dont own xboxes etc, we make cookies and craft things and read and play games so dont judge what you have no knowledge of, if its safe for my children to help the community they do, ive been outside today and nearly slipped, i would rather my children stayed indoors safe rather than going out slipping up and breaking an arm or a leg and having time off school when i can quite easily do the jobs myself!!![/p][/quote]For the record, my last suggestion wasn't aimed at yourself or your children; it was intended as a generalisation. However, maybe they could accompany you to distribute some of those cookies you mention... or is that a step too far? Also, it's worth remembering that if you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging.[/p][/quote]if it wasnt aimed at me why did you directly quote me and comment then? for the record we do give our cookies and cakes to the neighbours, and im not in a hole or digging maybe you are though eh?,[/p][/quote]Ouch! Let's hope that at least those cookies have cooled down a bit! Big Mac
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3:17pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

how many of you people are over fifty.
just wondering.
i tell you why in the moment
how many of you people are over fifty. just wondering. i tell you why in the moment southy
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3:59pm Fri 3 Dec 10

RobJChase says...

I am
I am RobJChase
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4:06pm Fri 3 Dec 10

adam1981 says...

i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe!
i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe! adam1981
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4:08pm Fri 3 Dec 10

southy says...

RobJChase wrote:
I am
then you will remember the much harder and longer winters and deeper snow, has i do and going to school in shorts,schools never closing down except for real extremes of cold snowy weather.
how is it that we use to cope back then, and not now.
[quote][p][bold]RobJChase[/bold] wrote: I am[/p][/quote]then you will remember the much harder and longer winters and deeper snow, has i do and going to school in shorts,schools never closing down except for real extremes of cold snowy weather. how is it that we use to cope back then, and not now. southy
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4:15pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Big Mac says...

adam1981 wrote:
i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe!
i'm with daves babe here.
Good for you. Not so sure what Dave will think when he gets home?
[quote][p][bold]adam1981[/bold] wrote: i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe![/p][/quote]i'm with daves babe here. Good for you. Not so sure what Dave will think when he gets home? Big Mac
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4:37pm Fri 3 Dec 10

adam1981 says...

Big Mac wrote:
adam1981 wrote: i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe!
i'm with daves babe here. Good for you. Not so sure what Dave will think when he gets home?
what a clever comment,you should of worked for nasa!
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adam1981[/bold] wrote: i'm with daves babe here.Just want to say why don't all you whingers go and help people yourself instead of expecting kids to do it? makes me laugh when the person writes that kids should get off there xbox and do something for the community when quite clearly he or she is sitting there on a bloody computer,quite laughable really.Also i think davesbabe should be praised for being a loving parent who tries to protect her children,maybe if more people were like her there wouldn't be kids roaming the streets at all ages intimidating people.Respect to davesbabe![/p][/quote]i'm with daves babe here. Good for you. Not so sure what Dave will think when he gets home?[/p][/quote]what a clever comment,you should of worked for nasa! adam1981
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5:30pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Hantslad says...

southy wrote:
RobJChase wrote: I am
then you will remember the much harder and longer winters and deeper snow, has i do and going to school in shorts,schools never closing down except for real extremes of cold snowy weather. how is it that we use to cope back then, and not now.
I smell a Maggie theme coming on here! Tell us, what did she do?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobJChase[/bold] wrote: I am[/p][/quote]then you will remember the much harder and longer winters and deeper snow, has i do and going to school in shorts,schools never closing down except for real extremes of cold snowy weather. how is it that we use to cope back then, and not now.[/p][/quote]I smell a Maggie theme coming on here! Tell us, what did she do? Hantslad
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9:08pm Fri 3 Dec 10

downfader says...

I went out this afternoon to finish off clearing the driveway and noticed the old dear across the way (she's about 75) has come out and cleared her path, driveway and the pavement in front of her house.
:-o
Wow..! Legend!
.
I will say, it is character building.
I went out this afternoon to finish off clearing the driveway and noticed the old dear across the way (she's about 75) has come out and cleared her path, driveway and the pavement in front of her house. :-o Wow..! Legend! . I will say, it is character building. downfader
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11:32pm Fri 3 Dec 10

RadicalEmu says...

If the rain freezes don't get too upset. You lot have been bemoaning the lack of an ice rink for years!
If the rain freezes don't get too upset. You lot have been bemoaning the lack of an ice rink for years! RadicalEmu
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11:52pm Fri 3 Dec 10

Hantslad says...

I won't moan! I'll be outside clearing it and joining in the community fun! I guess that's what some of us good uns do, whilst the rest sit at home and moan.
I won't moan! I'll be outside clearing it and joining in the community fun! I guess that's what some of us good uns do, whilst the rest sit at home and moan. Hantslad
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2:13am Sat 4 Dec 10

milton road says...

All that pent up energy, most seeming fairly negaitive. You could of all been out clearing peoples drives. So easy to sit and tell other people what they should and should not be doing.
I would of thought far more to the point to get the un-employed out helping. They get a cheque for doing nothing. Are adult and quite capable of doing such things.
Agreed if your next door neighbour, is elderly it is nice to check out they are alright. Yet you do not need to be child to do that, you can be any age.
I am a grandparent and I would not like to think of my grandchild trudging the streets cold and wet, tyring to clear drives, when there are plenty of adults sitting at home and more than capable of being neighbourly.
It doesn't hurt families as a whole to look out for elderly people close to them, i.e. relatives or neighbours. But for a widespread community project, give it to the un-employed.
All that pent up energy, most seeming fairly negaitive. You could of all been out clearing peoples drives. So easy to sit and tell other people what they should and should not be doing. I would of thought far more to the point to get the un-employed out helping. They get a cheque for doing nothing. Are adult and quite capable of doing such things. Agreed if your next door neighbour, is elderly it is nice to check out they are alright. Yet you do not need to be child to do that, you can be any age. I am a grandparent and I would not like to think of my grandchild trudging the streets cold and wet, tyring to clear drives, when there are plenty of adults sitting at home and more than capable of being neighbourly. It doesn't hurt families as a whole to look out for elderly people close to them, i.e. relatives or neighbours. But for a widespread community project, give it to the un-employed. milton road
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6:58am Sat 4 Dec 10

OSPREYSAINT says...

It is pretty lethal out there this morning, it rained overnight and washed a lot of snow away, however the standing water is now freezing into black ice, especially on pavements and car parks. Stay indoors until the temperature rises later is my advice.
It is pretty lethal out there this morning, it rained overnight and washed a lot of snow away, however the standing water is now freezing into black ice, especially on pavements and car parks. Stay indoors until the temperature rises later is my advice. OSPREYSAINT
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8:25am Sat 4 Dec 10

Spot O'Bother says...

Hmmm......it would appear that foriegners have a point when they say that the English only talk about the weather.

Does anyone else think that Davesbabe 'protest to much'?
Hmmm......it would appear that foriegners have a point when they say that the English only talk about the weather. Does anyone else think that Davesbabe 'protest to much'? Spot O'Bother
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2:08pm Sat 4 Dec 10

downfader says...

Spot O'Bother wrote:
Hmmm......it would appear that foriegners have a point when they say that the English only talk about the weather. Does anyone else think that Davesbabe 'protest to much'?
Protest too much? No change there then, LOL! You have to expect it on here.
.
The Irish have a saying.. if you dont like the weather then just wait 20 minutes. I reckon we're really lucky in the UK, esp down here in the south.
[quote][p][bold]Spot O'Bother[/bold] wrote: Hmmm......it would appear that foriegners have a point when they say that the English only talk about the weather. Does anyone else think that Davesbabe 'protest to much'?[/p][/quote]Protest too much? No change there then, LOL! You have to expect it on here. . The Irish have a saying.. if you dont like the weather then just wait 20 minutes. I reckon we're really lucky in the UK, esp down here in the south. downfader
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3:27pm Sat 4 Dec 10

southy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It is pretty lethal out there this morning, it rained overnight and washed a lot of snow away, however the standing water is now freezing into black ice, especially on pavements and car parks. Stay indoors until the temperature rises later is my advice.
it stop raining about 1 am here for a little while and it quickly stated to freeze up then too, just glad it started to rain again.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It is pretty lethal out there this morning, it rained overnight and washed a lot of snow away, however the standing water is now freezing into black ice, especially on pavements and car parks. Stay indoors until the temperature rises later is my advice.[/p][/quote]it stop raining about 1 am here for a little while and it quickly stated to freeze up then too, just glad it started to rain again. southy
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12:46pm Mon 6 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

milton road wrote:
All that pent up energy, most seeming fairly negaitive. You could of all been out clearing peoples drives. So easy to sit and tell other people what they should and should not be doing.
I would of thought far more to the point to get the un-employed out helping. They get a cheque for doing nothing. Are adult and quite capable of doing such things.
Agreed if your next door neighbour, is elderly it is nice to check out they are alright. Yet you do not need to be child to do that, you can be any age.
I am a grandparent and I would not like to think of my grandchild trudging the streets cold and wet, tyring to clear drives, when there are plenty of adults sitting at home and more than capable of being neighbourly.
It doesn't hurt families as a whole to look out for elderly people close to them, i.e. relatives or neighbours. But for a widespread community project, give it to the un-employed.
that was exactly the point i was trying to make!
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: All that pent up energy, most seeming fairly negaitive. You could of all been out clearing peoples drives. So easy to sit and tell other people what they should and should not be doing. I would of thought far more to the point to get the un-employed out helping. They get a cheque for doing nothing. Are adult and quite capable of doing such things. Agreed if your next door neighbour, is elderly it is nice to check out they are alright. Yet you do not need to be child to do that, you can be any age. I am a grandparent and I would not like to think of my grandchild trudging the streets cold and wet, tyring to clear drives, when there are plenty of adults sitting at home and more than capable of being neighbourly. It doesn't hurt families as a whole to look out for elderly people close to them, i.e. relatives or neighbours. But for a widespread community project, give it to the un-employed.[/p][/quote]that was exactly the point i was trying to make! davesbabe
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12:49pm Mon 6 Dec 10

davesbabe says...

meaning what exactly??, i want my children to be safe so why should they do what lazy adults can do themselves?? i have a lot more topics to talk about than the weather but that was the subject that i was commenting on, if youre going to make a point why dont you come out and say it instead of beating around the bush??
meaning what exactly??, i want my children to be safe so why should they do what lazy adults can do themselves?? i have a lot more topics to talk about than the weather but that was the subject that i was commenting on, if youre going to make a point why dont you come out and say it instead of beating around the bush?? davesbabe
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