IT'S 24 hours to go - and
Southampton's biggest
shopping centre is counting
down the hours until
darkness descends in the
Earth's biggest blackout.
The Southampton shopping mall
is among the landmark buildings
around the world turning off the
lights for one hour on Saturday
night. Other iconic structures taking
part in the big switch-off
include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate
Bridge in San Francisco and
Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower.
It is hoped that the blackout in
major cities across the globe will
save energy and raise awareness of
climate change.
Southampton's skyline could look
very different during Earth Hour
as familiar buildings around the
city turn off their lights from 8pm.
The Mayflower theatre, the Civic
Centre and clock tower, the
Skandia building and the Daily
Echo's headquarters will all be
plunged into darkness along with
Hampshire Constabulary's HQ,
Hampshire County Council's
offices and Winchester Cathedral.
Householders are also being
encouraged to join the blackout,
which created a ten per cent energy
reduction in Sydney when the
scheme was piloted there last year.
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A WestQuay spokesman said:
"We feel it is incredibly important
to support an event like this to
raise awareness of the issue of climate
change by encouraging people
to stop and think about all of
the energy wasted every day.
"We have encouraged all retailers
within WestQuay to switch off
their display and non-essential
lighting, as well as all our employees
to do their bit and turn off their
lights at home."
The shopping centre - which uses
a renewable energy provider -
reduced its energy consumption by
12 per cent last year and hopes to
increase that saving to 31 per cent
in 2008.
Meanwhile, the Art House cafe in
Bedford Place is hosting a pre-
Earth Hour event tonight, including
a candlelit sing-song and poetry
readings.
Posted by: Pedant, Southampton on 8:29am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sparky[/bold] wrote:
I am sure i read somewhere years ago that more energy is used turning a lightbulb on than it'll use in an hour[/quote] As far as I know, that was only true for fluorescent bulbs.
Sparky wrote:
I am sure i read somewhere years ago that more energy is used turning a lightbulb on than it'll use in an hour
As far as I know, that was only true for fluorescent bulbs.
Posted by: Redfield, Winchester on 9:05am Fri 28 Mar 08
"Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, pictured right"
Where's the picture?? All there is, is a advert for the big switch off. Echo gets it wrong again. Doesn't anyone proof read before it's published?
"Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, pictured right"
Where's the picture?? All there is, is a advert for the big switch off. Echo gets it wrong again. Doesn't anyone proof read before it's published?
[quote][bold]Redfield[/bold] wrote:
"Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, pictured right" Where's the picture?? All there is, is a advert for the big switch off. Echo gets it wrong again. Doesn't anyone proof read before it's published?[/quote] the stories are lifted from the printed version as it's cheaper and saves having to amend the copy.
My frustration is that it appears we are going to get one of these stories everyday but with a different company name added in.
It will soon be on par with the 'one of hampshire's busiest roads' template stories.
The lazy bleeders
Redfield wrote:
"Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, pictured right" Where's the picture?? All there is, is a advert for the big switch off. Echo gets it wrong again. Doesn't anyone proof read before it's published?
the stories are lifted from the printed version as it's cheaper and saves having to amend the copy.
My frustration is that it appears we are going to get one of these stories everyday but with a different company name added in.
It will soon be on par with the 'one of hampshire's busiest roads' template stories.
As long as we don't save too much energy. Otherwise there would be implications for the National Grid.
And unless a lamp is tungsten or light emitting diode it uses more energy to switch it on than to keep it running, and also reduces its operating life.
As long as we don't save too much energy. Otherwise there would be implications for the National Grid.
And unless a lamp is tungsten or light emitting diode it uses more energy to switch it on than to keep it running, and also reduces its operating life.
Posted by: Iain, Lordshill on 10:09am Fri 28 Mar 08
It's eight o'clock on a Saturday night - why on earth does a shopping centre need its lights on anyway.
I'll be in the pub. And the lights had darned well better be on.
It's eight o'clock on a Saturday night - why on earth does a shopping centre need its lights on anyway.
I'll be in the pub. And the lights had darned well better be on.
Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere.
Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs.
Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on!
Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere.
Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs.
Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on!
Im suprised they dont have a big electronic count down board to this exciting event.
Also its comical how a shopping centre that is closed will goto the effort to turns its lights off for 1 hour, then turn them back on. Its just hype and spin developed for thick people. If these big organisations and government actually cared they would be doing something other than turning their lights off for 1 pathetic hour
Im suprised they dont have a big electronic count down board to this exciting event.
Also its comical how a shopping centre that is closed will goto the effort to turns its lights off for 1 hour, then turn them back on. Its just hype and spin developed for thick people. If these big organisations and government actually cared they would be doing something other than turning their lights off for 1 pathetic hour
[quote][bold]J[/bold] wrote:
Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on![/quote] good post
J wrote:
Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on!
Posted by: Global Warming is a Myth on 11:25am Fri 28 Mar 08
I will be leaving all my lights and appliances on during this hour while I go out to burn some tyres and leave my car running. This will compensate for this stupid hour that wont actually do anything to help or hinder the environment. Global Warming is a natural process not created by man. My whole family are scientists and we all knew this years ago and still know it today.
I will be leaving all my lights and appliances on during this hour while I go out to burn some tyres and leave my car running. This will compensate for this stupid hour that wont actually do anything to help or hinder the environment. Global Warming is a natural process not created by man. My whole family are scientists and we all knew this years ago and still know it today.
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]J[/bold] wrote: Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on![/quote] good post[/quote] not that a good post
last sentence is stupid for very obvious reasons.
Christoff wrote:
J wrote: Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on!
Posted by: Martha, Southampton on 11:37am Fri 28 Mar 08
[italic][bold]Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower.[/bold][/italic]
How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!!
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Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower.
How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!!
!
Wasn't long okay that we were all going to die by poisonus gasses leaked from the hole in the ozone layer. the one that everyone seems to have forgotten about!
Wasn't long okay that we were all going to die by poisonus gasses leaked from the hole in the ozone layer. the one that everyone seems to have forgotten about!
[quote][bold]Martha[/bold] wrote:
[italic][bold]Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower.[/bold][/italic] How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!! ![/quote] You can't but it is the tallest structure in UK open to public outside London.
Martha wrote: Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower. How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!! !
You can't but it is the tallest structure in UK open to public outside London.
[quote][bold]Fred[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Martha[/bold] wrote: [italic][bold]Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower.[/bold][/italic] How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!! ![/quote] You can't but it is the tallest structure in UK open to public outside London.[/quote] I thought Peter Crouch was.
Fred wrote:
Martha wrote: Other iconic structures taking part in the big switch-off include Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower. How can you put Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower in the same category as the Golden Gate Bridge and Sydney Harbour Bridge......please!! !
You can't but it is the tallest structure in UK open to public outside London.
"A sing-song and reading poetry by candle light"!!! I can see all the enviro hippies now in their little gathering trying to save the earth. Cracked me up that closing paragraph.
"A sing-song and reading poetry by candle light"!!! I can see all the enviro hippies now in their little gathering trying to save the earth. Cracked me up that closing paragraph.
[quote][bold]im a[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]J[/bold] wrote: Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on![/quote] good post[/quote] not that a good post last sentence is stupid for very obvious reasons. [/quote] ok, apart from that bit
im a wrote:
Christoff wrote:
J wrote: Bleh. The whole idea of Earth Hour is so ridicilous that I for one will turn on all my electrical appliances for that hour. Global warming and climate change has lost its real focus with goverment bodies and corporations furthering their own agendas with issues that seem to matter more to the public. I mean look at it. Everything now days is sold under the banner of 'green', it ranges from washing powders to cars. What I find the most amusing of it all is that England and the USA seem to be the only countries where green issues are a hot topic in the press. Comparing with the press outside of the UK, environmental issues are not blown so out of proportion, but on the other hand the press tend to be more sensationalistic than elsewhere. Going back to the original point of West Quay shutting down its lights. I'd be a bit surprised if it made a significant difference. If all the shops etc wanted to make a change by cutting down on electricity consumption they should turn off each and every light for the night, including their dumb assed signs. Heck, if global warming will one day mean that there will be no rain on this island, then bring it on!
good post
not that a good post last sentence is stupid for very obvious reasons.
Posted by: denzil, Hampshire on 12:55pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I will do my bit for global warming when people stop driving these huge 4x4 around with just one person in them, and all these big football players stop having these big cars. And they want the average person to stop using less energy. It's a joke.
I will do my bit for global warming when people stop driving these huge 4x4 around with just one person in them, and all these big football players stop having these big cars. And they want the average person to stop using less energy. It's a joke.
Posted by: Brummy Saint, Birmingham, but wish I was back in Southampton! on 1:35pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower - does this mean that Portsmouth does have an electric supply now?
Just that Portsmouth most famous structure the Tricon Centre didn't look like it had any!
Portsmouth's Spinnaker Tower - does this mean that Portsmouth does have an electric supply now?
Just that Portsmouth most famous structure the Tricon Centre didn't look like it had any!
Posted by: henry, henry. in the house of henry on 1:47pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Swipe Card[/bold] wrote: Gteat news for shoplifters[/quote] what shops in west quay are are open at night???? Gteat Gteat Gteat[/quote] No shops me thinks!!!
Anyway... im sure the shoplifters will all be at home smoking crack or injecting heroin!
Going back to this story. why don't they do it for 12 hours...that will make more of a difference surely? Perhaps thay should do it every night...what a Gteat idea!
Henry wrote:
Swipe Card wrote: Gteat news for shoplifters
what shops in west quay are are open at night???? Gteat Gteat Gteat
No shops me thinks!!!
Anyway... im sure the shoplifters will all be at home smoking crack or injecting heroin!
Going back to this story. why don't they do it for 12 hours...that will make more of a difference surely? Perhaps thay should do it every night...what a Gteat idea!
[quote][bold]local[/bold] wrote:
As long as we don't save too much energy. Otherwise there would be implications for the National Grid. And unless a lamp is tungsten or light emitting diode it uses more energy to switch it on than to keep it running, and also reduces its operating life.[/quote] That is rubbish
While it is true that any kind of lamp uses more power when you turn it it is only for a very short time. The longest is a fluorescent lamp at a massive 23 seconds so if you leave a room for longer than that then its cheapper to turn them off. It also only reduces the life of a lamp by seconds over its whole life.
local wrote:
As long as we don't save too much energy. Otherwise there would be implications for the National Grid. And unless a lamp is tungsten or light emitting diode it uses more energy to switch it on than to keep it running, and also reduces its operating life.
That is rubbish
While it is true that any kind of lamp uses more power when you turn it it is only for a very short time. The longest is a fluorescent lamp at a massive 23 seconds so if you leave a room for longer than that then its cheapper to turn them off. It also only reduces the life of a lamp by seconds over its whole life.
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
[quote][bold]Seriously[/bold] wrote:
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students? [/quote] why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?
Seriously wrote:
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?
[quote][bold]Im a[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Seriously[/bold] wrote: So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students? [/quote] why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?[/quote] lol, surely it would take 11 students?
Im a wrote:
Seriously wrote: So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?
Posted by: Angry, Monkey Land on 4:18pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Im a[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Seriously[/bold] wrote: So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students? [/quote] why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?[/quote] Does Im A Flower ever say anything for themselves of just quote other people to take to p*ss?
Im a wrote:
Seriously wrote: So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
why 10? and if 10, they are quite handy to be able to steel the whole of Westquay! Where would they put it?
Does Im A Flower ever say anything for themselves of just quote other people to take to p*ss?
Posted by: henry, henrys r us on 4:24pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Seriously[/bold] wrote:
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students? [/quote] these 10 students won't be able to see a thing! I hope they go equipped with a few JCBS and some torches.
12 of them will definately do the job. but they might need a bit longer than an hour tho. Another 30 mins and the job will be done.
Anyway must dash....i need a pooh.
Seriously wrote:
So on a saturday night, when town is full off Drunk Students they will turn of the lights for west quay? How long till the whole building is stolen by 10 students?
these 10 students won't be able to see a thing! I hope they go equipped with a few JCBS and some torches.
12 of them will definately do the job. but they might need a bit longer than an hour tho. Another 30 mins and the job will be done.
In my experience, cheap Polish light bulbs are the most economical form of lighting there is.
You just fit a new bulb, switch it on and quickly memorise where everything is.
Then the bulb blows, automatically reducing power consumption.
In my experience, cheap Polish light bulbs are the most economical form of lighting there is.
You just fit a new bulb, switch it on and quickly memorise where everything is.
Then the bulb blows, automatically reducing power consumption.
Posted by: laura, southampton on 9:54pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]hmm[/bold] wrote:
Im suprised they dont have a big electronic count down board to this exciting event. Also its comical how a shopping centre that is closed will goto the effort to turns its lights off for 1 hour, then turn them back on. Its just hype and spin developed for thick people. If these big organisations and government actually cared they would be doing something other than turning their lights off for 1 pathetic hour[/quote] I agree! Im quite suprised they have not done that aswell. they always contradict themselves and think they are doing something thats going to change the world but... what happens if an excess in rapes, theft and the likes occour, then they will make a big apology saying it was for a good cause? ridiculus?! I also wonder with all them lights being turnt off, will it cause a major power surge when they are turnt back on after the hours are up? then we will all be sat in the dark for a lot longer as it is highly likely we would have a major powercut!
hmm wrote:
Im suprised they dont have a big electronic count down board to this exciting event. Also its comical how a shopping centre that is closed will goto the effort to turns its lights off for 1 hour, then turn them back on. Its just hype and spin developed for thick people. If these big organisations and government actually cared they would be doing something other than turning their lights off for 1 pathetic hour
I agree! Im quite suprised they have not done that aswell. they always contradict themselves and think they are doing something thats going to change the world but... what happens if an excess in rapes, theft and the likes occour, then they will make a big apology saying it was for a good cause? ridiculus?! I also wonder with all them lights being turnt off, will it cause a major power surge when they are turnt back on after the hours are up? then we will all be sat in the dark for a lot longer as it is highly likely we would have a major powercut!
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