Hythe Hospital closure fears (From Daily Echo)

The larger the population gets in the Waterside, the fewer facilities it gets. Only in this country would that happen.

Echoes of the Shirley Walk-in Centre. Staff were withdrawn "temporarily" to work on the Swine Flu epidemic (which never happened) and it never re-opened.

Having used both Hythe and Romsey Hospitals for outpatients and tests it is a crying shame that these facilities are allowed to detiriorate when the general is at bursting point. There are not enough facilities unless you live in Southampton and think of the traffic and parking it causes.
Why not close wards and keep them open for day surgery for example or for specialist service that at present are in odd places like Josian house in Empress road.
They had enogh money to build a new facility in Millbrook but cant keep anything open for residents outside of Southampton
Save our Cottage Hospitals

If they close the hospital they will sell it for housing or apartments.No doudt they will keep the doctors surgery going.

The Nhs is in a mess because we treat anyone who comes to this country that hasnt paid into it via national insurance.Lots of eu citizens have used this loop hole to come here and get treatment then go home without contributing anything so all our facilities are being cut to make up the shortfall.Closing Hythe hospital has been under way by stealth for a while now and the end is near.

The Nhs is in a mess because we treat anyone who comes to this country that hasnt paid into it via national insurance.Lots of eu citizens have used this loop hole to come here and get treatment then go home without contributing anything so all our facilities are being cut to make up the shortfall.Closing Hythe hospital has been under way by stealth for a while now and the end is near.

I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

The Hammer wrote:
I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

English defence league Hythe division wrote:
The Nhs is in a mess because we treat anyone who comes to this country that hasnt paid into it via national insurance.Lots of eu citizens have used this loop hole to come here and get treatment then go home without contributing anything so all our facilities are being cut to make up the shortfall.Closing Hythe hospital has been under way by stealth for a while now and the end is near.

Of course...no Brits go to Europe for medical treatment do they??!

The EDL members love to bang on about the glory days of us winning the war but conveniently forget that it was normal, moderate, decent englishmen that travelled to Europe to fight xenophobes like the EDL members.

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote:
I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!!
By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers.
Think...
Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Iw61 wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote: I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!! By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers. Think... Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Our country is being bankrupted by paying out money to eu freeloaders at the expense of hospitals etc.We should have in place decent border controls so we know who we are letting in and if they will benefit our country as the open door policy does not work.The problem is that by stealth we are allowing ourselves to be divided and let the english way of life be eroded.

The Hammer wrote:
The larger the population gets in the Waterside, the fewer facilities it gets. Only in this country would that happen.

It's not Britain doing it, believe me.

I should have said "It's not just Britain doing it, believe me". Sorry

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

Iw61 wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote: I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!! By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers. Think... Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Our country is being bankrupted by paying out money to eu freeloaders at the expense of hospitals etc.We should have in place decent border controls so we know who we are letting in and if they will benefit our country as the open door policy does not work.The problem is that by stealth we are allowing ourselves to be divided and let the english way of life be eroded.

Strange! When I was on holiday in Portugal I had an accident and was treated in a hospital there with no cost.
It was done in an efficient manner, and there were no 'Portugal Defence League' bigots complaining that I was a drain on their resources.
I would suggest that EDL takes a few trips abroad and visits some of the Commonwealth War Grave Cemeteries where he will discover that there were Commonwealth forces, of many races, cultures, colours and religions who fought and died so that he/she now has the freedom to air their racist comments!

Linesman wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

Iw61 wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote: I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!! By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers. Think... Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Our country is being bankrupted by paying out money to eu freeloaders at the expense of hospitals etc.We should have in place decent border controls so we know who we are letting in and if they will benefit our country as the open door policy does not work.The problem is that by stealth we are allowing ourselves to be divided and let the english way of life be eroded.

Strange! When I was on holiday in Portugal I had an accident and was treated in a hospital there with no cost. It was done in an efficient manner, and there were no 'Portugal Defence League' bigots complaining that I was a drain on their resources. I would suggest that EDL takes a few trips abroad and visits some of the Commonwealth War Grave Cemeteries where he will discover that there were Commonwealth forces, of many races, cultures, colours and religions who fought and died so that he/she now has the freedom to air their racist comments!

If wanting to guard our english way of life is being a bigot or racist then so be it but i would rather be that than a coward and let our hospitals shut,schools speak 30 different languages,knife crime,unemployment rising,elderly services being cut etc etc

Funny how the worst scumbags, tax dodgers, benefit cheats, and criminals that I have ever met in my life have all been white & english.
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They are probably heroes to you.

Based on the title of the story. i believe that the hospital in hythe are not run by the same primary care trust as in southampton. Not sure on others peoples veiw but i've always thought hythe,totton(water front) should come under southampton city council.The reason being i've seen allot of investment in shirley,portsword etc but the waterside seems to of stopped in a time warp.

on the other note about the EDL. i love my country and city but the problems are not linked to race, but simply greed. the richest man in the world has over 158 billion i believe. Why does one person need so much wealth?

The Hammer wrote:
Funny how the worst scumbags, tax dodgers, benefit cheats, and criminals that I have ever met in my life have all been white & english. . They are probably heroes to you.

good job you dont live near st marys and then i am sure you will meet a few drug dealers and benefit cheats etc.

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

Iw61 wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote: I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!! By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers. Think... Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Our country is being bankrupted by paying out money to eu freeloaders at the expense of hospitals etc.We should have in place decent border controls so we know who we are letting in and if they will benefit our country as the open door policy does not work.The problem is that by stealth we are allowing ourselves to be divided and let the english way of life be eroded.

to be english means that you are off a mix blood, mix race mix creed, mix colour.
and your dearly beloved bnp aka british muppet party are doing the same thing has the top 3 party have and that is to join the EU gravy train, and to join up with other fascist partys in the EU

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

Linesman wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

Iw61 wrote:

English defence league Hythe division wrote:

The Hammer wrote: I'd rather have most of the EU citizens than racist bullies and cowards like the EDL

that is just the sort of answer from a traitor within who wants us to become the dumping ground to all of the eu criminals and low life.

You are clearly a joke!! By the way it was socialists that beat Hitler in 1939-45 not stupid EDLers. Think... Why did they kick Churchill out in 1945??

Our country is being bankrupted by paying out money to eu freeloaders at the expense of hospitals etc.We should have in place decent border controls so we know who we are letting in and if they will benefit our country as the open door policy does not work.The problem is that by stealth we are allowing ourselves to be divided and let the english way of life be eroded.

Strange! When I was on holiday in Portugal I had an accident and was treated in a hospital there with no cost. It was done in an efficient manner, and there were no 'Portugal Defence League' bigots complaining that I was a drain on their resources. I would suggest that EDL takes a few trips abroad and visits some of the Commonwealth War Grave Cemeteries where he will discover that there were Commonwealth forces, of many races, cultures, colours and religions who fought and died so that he/she now has the freedom to air their racist comments!

If wanting to guard our english way of life is being a bigot or racist then so be it but i would rather be that than a coward and let our hospitals shut,schools speak 30 different languages,knife crime,unemployment rising,elderly services being cut etc etc

It is those Commonwealth forces, many of whom gave their lives, that I have to thank for preserving my English way of life, rather than having it dictated by Hitler's descendents.
My children could choose to join the Boy Scouts or Girl Guides, rather than being drafted into the Hitler Youth thanks to our democracy being preserved.
When I go to hospital, I do not object to being treated by a nurse, doctor or consultant who if they are a different colour or have a different religious belief. That is their freedom under our democracy, that many gave their lives to preserve.
If our democratic form of government were done away with, and replaced by the type that you appear to want, believe me, the first to be put up against the wall would not be those that you complain of, but ones like yourself.

So if the hospital were to close I guess my GP would be based in Lymington or Romsey, which is really useful since I don't drive. Aneurin Bevan will be rolling in his grave...

Last year I was under the employ of HCHC as a staff nurse at Hythe hospital, and from the first day I started there were ongoing rumours of closure threats, fuelled by the loss of the minor injury unit and maternity wing. I often listened to the staff recall how the hospital used to be run, with members of the community relying on these services, and wished that I had been around for those better times. Many of the staff had been working at the hospital for years and were extrememly dedicated to running a ward that benefitted the complex needs of the patients, and were always making huge efforts to adapt and change their practices whenever new policies were brought forward. My brief time working there was pleasant, but the ominous rumours of closure often worried me, and despite reassurances from the HCHC management that closure would not occur, I felt that I could not take a risk, and subsequently sought new "safer" employment. Now I see that a staff shortage crisis has forced closure, which makes me feel that I have contributed in a small way to this disaster, but at the same time I am extremely angry at the management for allowing this to happen (and was not surprised to find the staff's worst fears take form). When the minor injury units etc are closing, staff will become increasingly harder to find as there is so little incentive to develop skills, which quickly leads to complacency and a lack of motivation. a 16 bedded hospital with poor provisions, inadequate environments, low morale and no opportunities to enhance a career are not enticing prospects to new staff nurses. I am very sorry to all my colleagues at Hythe to hear about the unforgivable way that HCHC have treated them, and sorry to the communities of Hythe and Dibden who now find themselves short of another public sector service.

It is reassuring that somebody from Southampton has been able to bring comment back to the story!
As commented, community hospitals struggle to provide the "enticing prospects" to "enhance a career". This is not helped by "ambulance chasing" lawyers, which means that all treatment has to be to the highest possible modern standards. In the present economic situation there is just not the money to equip every community hospital to this standard. For this reason, in the best interest of patient safety, most treatments are concentrated at general hospitals.
One can, as the commentator agrees, understand why nurses, now about to be compelled to train to degree standard, wish to apply their skills "where the action is".
This leaves community hospitals with the "step down" role for rehabilitation. There is clear and comprehensive evidence that, in suitable accommodation, with adequate nursing, physio, occupational therapy and the like, the patient will make a quicker recovery in their own home.
Money spent on community hospitals in outdated premises would be better directed to improving home services. This is not speculation but is based on clear evidence. There is a role for rehabilitation beds where home accommodation is inadequate or where respite care is required, but this needs to be social care and staffed accordingly.
Community hospital sites have a vital role to play in providing a wide range of services to the community.
Fenwick2 provides a perfect example of what can be achieved for the local community once you get away from a fixation with beds.