Work begins on new war memorial (From Daily Echo)

Utterly ridiculous. They would have been better off trying to find the extra money to restore the Lutyens memorial. Do you think if the cenotaph in Whitehall was being eroded, the government saying we can't afford to repair it but we'll put up a stupid glass panel next to it with everyone's names on? Scandalous.

With the amount of vandalism already being carried out in Southampton, how long before some mindless yob decides it would be a bit of a laugh to smash up something that means nothing to them.

Really?! Now this will probably annoy a few people, but is there any real need to be putting any more memorials up? We are in a recession and no one has any money, but wait, lets put up a pointless memorial, genius!

To re.engrave the names would have been a good gesture. again the cheap option. This glass will be tested to destruction.Cheaper is not always better.

userds5050 wrote:
Utterly ridiculous. They would have been better off trying to find the extra money to restore the Lutyens memorial. Do you think if the cenotaph in Whitehall was being eroded, the government saying we can't afford to repair it but we'll put up a stupid glass panel next to it with everyone's names on? Scandalous.

The money is coming from public subscription. If people like you were yo donate perhaps a full restoration of the cenotaph would be possible buut no doubt you think someone else should pay and you can just moan about it.

"Buy cheap, buy twice!" This is exactly what will happen. An ugly glass wall erected in a listed park, next to a listed monument.
Even putting all this aside, can I remind everybody that maintenance is and has always been the councils responsibility. When the cenotaph was built, it was done so COMPLETELY by public subscription from local people and businesses on the basis that the council vowed to always maintain the cenotaph. The council did not pay anything towards the cenotaph and have clearly not maintained it.
The council might like people to think that they're preserving the fallen's names because they're 'nice like that' but in fact, they have just saved themselves money by neglecting the cenotaph for years, avoiding responsibility and building a glass wall to compensate.
If the council had stuck to their original agreement, then the names should be engraved into the stone regardless of what the cost is.

Matthew1 wrote:

userds5050 wrote: Utterly ridiculous. They would have been better off trying to find the extra money to restore the Lutyens memorial. Do you think if the cenotaph in Whitehall was being eroded, the government saying we can't afford to repair it but we'll put up a stupid glass panel next to it with everyone's names on? Scandalous.

The money is coming from public subscription. If people like you were yo donate perhaps a full restoration of the cenotaph would be possible buut no doubt you think someone else should pay and you can just moan about it.

That 'someone else' is the council. Always has been.

Totally agree with Userds5050's contribution.
The Cenotaph is a magnificent monument matched only by the Titanic Monument on the opposite side of the road.
The names should be re-engraved --- the glass panels cheapen the history and meaning of both memorials.

TEBOURBA wrote:
Totally agree with Userds5050's contribution.
The Cenotaph is a magnificent monument matched only by the Titanic Monument on the opposite side of the road.
The names should be re-engraved --- the glass panels cheapen the history and meaning of both memorials.

I agree. I think it's an absolute disgrace that those in charge of this seem to think that the people who died for this country are only worth the cheaper and 2nd best option. They deserve better and the council should have funded the rest so that we could have had a full restoration. I also have doubts that these glass panels will be cleaned on a regular basis and wonder how long it will be until they become dirty. It's a shame that those who gave their lives for this country have been treated with such contempt in my opinion.

One E in leroy gobshi*e what sort of a name is Dane any way either your mum was confused and could not spell Dean or she loves Dane Bowers DANE good name

Let me guess Danes checking wikipedia for correct spelling because thats always correct numpty

LeroyJenkins wrote:
One E in leroy gobshi*e what sort of a name is Dane any way either your mum was confused and could not spell Dean or she loves Dane Bowers DANE good name

I believe it is your parents that are the fools, as the correct spelling is Leeroy!

dane323 wrote:
Really?! Now this will probably annoy a few people, but is there any real need to be putting any more memorials up? We are in a recession and no one has any money, but wait, lets put up a pointless memorial, genius!

Well Dane,
It's real lucky that you don't get to decide isn't eh ;)

Hell, they ain't emptied the bins for so long & I been paying my taxes like a good boy, so I guess there's gotta be some money somewhere ;)

Typical of this council chose the cheap option to remember the fallen hero's of our city, it shows them for exactly what they are, a bunch of disrespectful clowns that Billy Smart would be proud of.

If these mindless Tory clowns had made contractors like Keir Southern pay for a decent memorial
(under a section 106 agreement) when they dished out millions of pounds worth of contracts to them or if Ringmaster Royston and his Tory clowns spent less of hospitality and plush carpets, our fallen hero's might have been honoured with a decent memorial instead of 4 inch thick glass panels that will look totally out of place next Lutyens’
Cenotaph.

You cannot blame the Legion or the Chamber for this, as they were basically told its glass or nothing.

Matthew1 wrote:

userds5050 wrote:
Utterly ridiculous. They would have been better off trying to find the extra money to restore the Lutyens memorial. Do you think if the cenotaph in Whitehall was being eroded, the government saying we can't afford to repair it but we'll put up a stupid glass panel next to it with everyone's names on? Scandalous.

The money is coming from public subscription. If people like you were yo donate perhaps a full restoration of the cenotaph would be possible buut no doubt you think someone else should pay and you can just moan about it.

I don't think someone else should pay for it at all. Don't tell me what I think, thank you very much. If someone was to set up a fund I would be happy to donate. The point I was making was cheaper is not always the best option. I suppose it is something else for the students to urinate up against though.

userds5050 wrote:

Matthew1 wrote:

userds5050 wrote:
Utterly ridiculous. They would have been better off trying to find the extra money to restore the Lutyens memorial. Do you think if the cenotaph in Whitehall was being eroded, the government saying we can't afford to repair it but we'll put up a stupid glass panel next to it with everyone's names on? Scandalous.

The money is coming from public subscription. If people like you were yo donate perhaps a full restoration of the cenotaph would be possible buut no doubt you think someone else should pay and you can just moan about it.

I don't think someone else should pay for it at all. Don't tell me what I think, thank you very much. If someone was to set up a fund I would be happy to donate. The point I was making was cheaper is not always the best option. I suppose it is something else for the students to urinate up against though.

Totally agree with you, cheap is never the best option, it's typical of this council and by choosing the cheap option it shows total disrespect, mind I'm not surprised this council has shown such disrespect, looking at them and their age, half of them were not even alive during the the 1st Gulf war, let alone the Falklands conflict or the dark days of Northern Ireland

hope they leave plenty of room for all the Polish names that will have to be put on it when the Polish insist and complain that they are being left out....

There is a fund. Chamber of Commerce are collecting it

My View From Here wrote:
Typical of this council chose the cheap option to remember the fallen hero's of our city, it shows them for exactly what they are, a bunch of disrespectful clowns that Billy Smart would be proud of. If these mindless Tory clowns had made contractors like Keir Southern pay for a decent memorial (under a section 106 agreement) when they dished out millions of pounds worth of contracts to them or if Ringmaster Royston and his Tory clowns spent less of hospitality and plush carpets, our fallen hero's might have been honoured with a decent memorial instead of 4 inch thick glass panels that will look totally out of place next Lutyens’ Cenotaph. You cannot blame the Legion or the Chamber for this, as they were basically told its glass or nothing.

What do you know about fallen heroes. What branck of the military did you serve in. Have you donated instead of moaning

Gainer T Gopher wrote:
hope they leave plenty of room for all the Polish names that will have to be put on it when the Polish insist and complain that they are being left out....

Always one idiot on here. What a thoroughly stupid thing to say.

Why would Polish people insist on being on a war memorial for UK service personnel?