Stories behind the names on Southampton's new memorial walls at the cenotaph

Bob McPherson Bob McPherson

Remembering the fallen

As schoolchildren and veterans gather in Southampton for today’s special Armistice Day ceremony JON REEVE reveals the remarkable stories behind four of the new names to be unveiled on the city’s new memorial walls in Watts Park.

HE had already completed a full tour of duty flying highly dangerous missions over Europe, being shot at night after night.

But such was the bond Bob McPherson had built with other crew members of his Lancaster bomber that in May 1945 the 21-year-old Southampton man and four others volunteered to continue flying as the focus of the Second World War shifted to Asia.

Despite having survived being hit by gunfire several times during 32 flights over Germany, the friends’ luck ran out on their first mission from India, four years after Bob had lied about his age to enlist for the Royal Air Force Voluntary Reserve.

Now, 66 years later, the rear gunner’s name is finally to be included in his home city’s symbol of remembrance for its war dead, as Southampton’s new memorial walls alongside the Cenotaph are unveiled.

School children and veterans are due to gather in Watts Park for today’s special Armistice Day ceremony.

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The walls commemorate the 3,298 armed services and Merchant Navy personnel from Southampton who died in the First and Second World Wars and other conflicts since.

Bob’s nephew, Ron Manley, who has painstakingly researched the circumstances of his uncle’s death, after the victims’ family were initially told only that crewmen were “missing in action, presumed dead”, said seeing his name on the memorial will be a significant moment, especially for those who knew him.

He said: “It’s important for his wife and his two sisters as well.”

Bob’s American B24 Liberator heavy bomber came under heavy fire on its mission to bomb Japanese ships in the harbour at Port Blair, Chatham Island, in the Andaman Islands in the Bay of Bengal.

Despite being hit it completed its bombing run but crashed shortly after, killing ten of the 11 crew instantly.

The Japanese buried the men in a single grave, which was badly damaged in the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami, turning the area where the crashed plane had remained into a swamp.

Now Ron is campaigning to see the grave exhumed and the bodies returned for a fitting burial in India.

He said: “It’s a massive long-term project but at least the MoD and Commonwealth War Graves Commission are on board now.

“I just hope they get it done while most of the remaining relatives are still alive.”

Frederick remembered thanks to his great niece

FREDERICK Barrow, pictured, came incredibly close to joining his four brothers in successfully seeing through the whole of the First World War.

A Lance Corporal with the 10th Battalion, Hampshire Regiment, he had volunteered when the war began in 1914 and went to the Western Front to fight in the trenches before moving on to see battle in Gallipoli.

By the summer of 1918 he was in northern Greece and on September 1 – just two months before Armistice Day – joined in the British assault on Roche Noir in Salonika.

After a day of fighting the 25-year-old soldier from Shirley was one of 47 to lose their lives, with a further 132 lying wounded.

Frederick’s name was not included on the Cenotaph but thanks to his great niece, Jessica Barrow, it is on the new memorial walls.

Jessica, 30, said: “We really don’t know why it wasn’t included but I just think it’s important that he is honoured for his part in the war. He made the ultimate sacrifice and it’s nice for him to be remembered”.

Antiques Roadshow to hear moving tale of soldier’s watch

THE amazing story of how his great uncle’s watch travelled home from a battlefield in France will be told by a Romsey man on a special edition of the Antiques Roadshow.

The watch belonged to 19-yearold Private Arthur Dibden from Wellow, who was killed at the Battle of Villers Bretonneaux in April 1918 as his regiment, the Devonshires, fought to halt the Germans’ last great offensive of the war.

The history of the watch has been researched by Danny Brown, who describes to expert Paul Atterbury on the BBC antiques show this Remembrance Sunday how it came home.

Private Dibden’s body was looted by a German soldier, who took the watch. The German was killed when two Australian brigades launched a counterattack.

An Australian soldier found the watch and read the inscription inside. On his way back to Australia, via Tidworth, he made a point of visiting Arthur’s parents at Wellow Wood to return his watch.

Wind the hands forward 79 years and a small, blue pouch containing the watch fell from the loft of a disused milking parlour at the farm belonging to Mr Brown’s grandfather, Les Dibden, at Belbins, near Romsey.

“Inside the back cover of the watch was a scratched inscription almost as clear as the day Arthur had written it,” said Mr Brown.

Ironically it read Steal not. AV Dibden, Wellow Wood, Hampshire.

Mr Brown said his grandfather did not know how his brother, who he could barely remember, died as his family seldom talked about him.

Mr Brown trawled through documents to piece together Arthur’s army career.

“Two years after the research project started, the family, and, most importantly, Arthur’s last surviving sibling, my grandfather, a toddler when Arthur went to war, finally knew what had happened to Arthur and where he now rests,”

said Mr Brown.

Sadly Les Dibden died before he could visit Arthur’s last resting place, a small cemetery filled mostly with unidentified Devon’s at Villers Bretonneaux, but thanks to the watch and Mr Brown’s painstaking research, Les’s brother had become far more than just a vague memory.

‘I’m proud he is being recognised’

HIS family thought he was too ill to go to war but brave George Hayes was determined to do his duty.

He signed up to the Queen’s Royal Regiment as a Private in the 2nd Battalion and in March 1941, just weeks after his 21st birthday, was sent off to fight in Egypt, where he died ten months later.

Great neice Kerry Freemantle, 36, who lives in Bishopstoke, said she is proud George’s sacrifice is now being recognised.

She said: “This should have been done years ago when more next of kin would have been here.

“He wasn’t a well boy because he had a lot of chest problems and no one was happy that he went because he wasn’t well enough, especially not to go to the desert, and he actually died of pneumonia.

“His enlistment papers say that he had a ‘scar of old superficial burns on back of left chest’. Maybe this didn’t help his medical condition. But he chose to go and it must have been when he was less ill. The fact he didn’t die of war wounds makes it even sadder. It’s such a shame.”

Read more memorial stories in today's Daily Echo

Comments(17)

Scrutinizer says...
12:02pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Amazing stories of more of our war heroes. Well done to all who contributed to get these brave men's names finally included on our war memorial. I shall look forward to looking for them on there very soon.

"They went with songs to the battle, they were young. Straight of limb, true of eyes, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them."

We will remember them.

Scrutinizer says...
12:06pm Fri 11 Nov 11

More amazing stories of our brave men's contribution to our country's freedom. Well done to all who helped finally get their names on our war memorial.


"They went with songs to the battle, they were young.
Straight of limb, true of eyes, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them."

We will remember them.

From the Edge says...
12:10pm Fri 11 Nov 11

I ask you to stand with me
For both the injured and the lost
I ask you to keep count with me
Of all the wars and what they cost
I ask you to be silent with me
Quietly grateful for our lot
As I expect you're as thankful as me
For the health and life we've got
I ask that you wish them well with me
All those still risking their all
And I ask that you remember with me
The names of those that fall
I expect that you are proud like me
Of this great nation of ours too
So enjoying all its freedoms like me
Support those upholding them for you
I hope that you are hopeful like me
That we'll soon bring an end to wars
So you'll have to stand no more with me
And mourning families no different from yours
'Til then be thankful you can stand with me
Thinking of those who now cannot
For standing here today with me
At least we show they're not forgot

espanuel says...
12:17pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Scrutinizer/From the edge.
THANKYOU.
I wish Cameron would listen.

Kerryp says...
12:36pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Thank you to everyone for your touching comments. It's weird but seeing this has actually given me some sense of relief that Uncle George's story has finally been told and his efforts have been recognised. The picture above was taken in Tobruck on 16th December 1941. George was taken ill on 23rd December 1941 and sadly passed away on 3rd January 1942. He was buried in Port Said, Egypt. Unfortunately my Grandad, Alf Hayes, always wanted to visit the grave, but never could. I just hope that one day I will be able to. If anyone knew George or the Hayes family, I would love to meet up. I will be at the Memorial Wall unveiling on Sunday. And I'm guessing you could probably get in touch through the Echo....Echo people please correct this comment if it is wrong.

southy says...
12:48pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Right next to the cenotaph there is another war memorial a very small one for the men of Southampton who left our shores to fight along side the Socialist in the Spanish civil war and never returned, for this was the start of WWII the opening battles against Franko and Hitler (for those that do not know Hitler supported Franko with his air force and bomb villages that supported the Socialist killing many woman and children and giving weapons to Franko Army to fight with), For these men they was the for runners who went to war for your freedom and peaceful life. Those that did return and there was many of them joined the arm forces straight away for they could see what was coming and they knew it was not going to stop at Spain.
And yet very few people stops and remembers them that lost there lives in the spainish civil war.

Paramjit Bahia says...
12:57pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Nice to know that at long last those who lost their lives in Asia have been recognised in their own city
.
For reasons only known to establishment sacrifices of those who fought in areas like Burma over the years were only treated like second class. Only body that really cared for them was Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

Shoong says...
1:00pm Fri 11 Nov 11

It's a shame some have chosen this story to get the usual cheap shots out, pretty shameful really considering the context of the story. Disappointing.

Goldenwight says...
1:03pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Let's hope that this memorial (to people who died in the hope that we could all lead a better life?) will survive without graffiti or other vandalism.

Jon Reeve says...
1:05pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Kerryp wrote:
Thank you to everyone for your touching comments. It's weird but seeing this has actually given me some sense of relief that Uncle George's story has finally been told and his efforts have been recognised. The picture above was taken in Tobruck on 16th December 1941. George was taken ill on 23rd December 1941 and sadly passed away on 3rd January 1942. He was buried in Port Said, Egypt. Unfortunately my Grandad, Alf Hayes, always wanted to visit the grave, but never could. I just hope that one day I will be able to. If anyone knew George or the Hayes family, I would love to meet up. I will be at the Memorial Wall unveiling on Sunday. And I'm guessing you could probably get in touch through the Echo....Echo people please correct this comment if it is wrong.
Anyone who wants to contact George Hayes' great niece Kerry can email me at jon.reeve@dailyecho.
co.uk, or call 023 8042 4496, and I will happily pass on your details.

Brock_and_Roll says...
2:55pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Southy,

For 24 hours I agree with you. I have the upmost respect for those young women and men who went beyond the call of national self-defence and volunteered to fight the dark forces of fascism. With hindsight, these people (and they were not all socialists) were right - they saw what was coming and in many cases sacrificed their lives in thedefence of freedom.

As my late grandfather (WW1 Royal Flying Corps) used to remind us, war is far from glorious and rarely a clear cut battle between right and wrong. Certainly for his generation, the Great War, represented a disgusting and inhumane game of chess between the prevailing superpowers. No one won and no one was right or wrong. WW1 verterans reluctance to talk about it stemmed not just from the horrors that they witnessed, but also from the guilt of surviving combined with frustration at the perceived futility and monstrous human expense of the Great War. What exactly were they fighting to preserve?

By the time WW2 (and the Spanish Civil War) came along, at least there was an idealogical and morally justifiable rational for resisting the Nazi advance.

For these comlicated reasons I remember the fallen and do everything I can to support the survivors at a personal level; however, I do try and avoid the poticiisation (eg government pressure on Fifa over football shirts etc) or "nationalisation" of Remeberance events.

southy says...
3:21pm Fri 11 Nov 11

Brock_and_Roll yes your right not all was Socialist that went to Spanish Civil war, a number did go and fight on Franko side, some of Mosley Brown Shirts members ended up over there.
Q do you mean "Nationalism" of Remeberance Day".

pod says...
4:20pm Fri 11 Nov 11

beautiful words from scrutinizer/from the edge.
I bought a book of War Poems when I visited the battlefields earlier this year, never fails to make me cry
I was at the centotaph this morning, it was touching to see so many different age groups there all united.
My young grandchildren know more about the ww1 than I ever did at that age and I think that shows that the sacrifices made will never be forgotten.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place, and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below
We are the dead,
Short days ago we lived
Felt dawn,saw sunset flow
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders Field
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders field.
This was written by a man called John McCrea who was one of the many who never returned.

Southy, please do not hi-jack these posts for your own ends, today is to remember ALL the people killed during the war.

pod says...
4:30pm Fri 11 Nov 11

sorry - of course I meant ALL the people killed in ALL wars.

southy says...
6:31pm Fri 11 Nov 11

pod wrote:
sorry - of course I meant ALL the people killed in ALL wars.
Pod I have not high jack it at all, remember Remeberance is part of History, And you can not just tell a small part of it, The spanish Civil War was the openning shots of WWII, and to understand what went on here is to have a better and greater understanding to what came next. Learn here who was killing who and why helps stop this kind of history repeating it self, which saddly many have not learned and we are back on that road yet again.

J.P.M says...
9:00pm Fri 11 Nov 11

My dog is getting old.

tonight he was panting after only 40 minutes brisk walking.
Dos anyone know if cod liver oil is good for their lungs?

Maybush Lad says...
2:39am Sat 12 Nov 11

southy wrote:
Right next to the cenotaph there is another war memorial a very small one for the men of Southampton who left our shores to fight along side the Socialist in the Spanish civil war and never returned, for this was the start of WWII the opening battles against Franko and Hitler (for those that do not know Hitler supported Franko with his air force and bomb villages that supported the Socialist killing many woman and children and giving weapons to Franko Army to fight with), For these men they was the for runners who went to war for your freedom and peaceful life. Those that did return and there was many of them joined the arm forces straight away for they could see what was coming and they knew it was not going to stop at Spain.
And yet very few people stops and remembers them that lost there lives in the spainish civil war.
My mate’s granddad fought in that war, although I don't think you'll find his name on that memorial since he survived it. I'll make a point to ask next time I speak to him.

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