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    The Salv wrote:
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    The Salv wrote: Lets get this built, all for any other improvements to the city also. . Dont let overpaid public sector workers get in the way of making the city a better place. . Im doing fine so it will be a great addition to the city for me to enjoy.
    T1T!
    Stop holding the city to ransom and keeping it stuck in the past. Allow it to regenerate, stop being so selfish.
    Did you not read your own post? I can see how my comments towards saving public services to the elderly is totally selfish. clearly your one of the highly educated posters on the echo site... What needs to be held is the reigns on the decision makers as they run off in a direction going 'great' but without thinking about other factors. I didnt say it was a wrong to honour the spitfire just wrong for this econimical time, or should we just through the OAPs onto the street sell their care homes and build statues for pidgeons to deficate on! Absolute douche!
    Spend some money making Southampton a nicer place to live. Will create some jobs in the process. . OAP's are super rich, most own their properties, probably paid £1k to £10k for their house which would be worth 200k. Most have decent pensions and also dont have to pay for bus travel! Crazy. Think you meant throw OAP's on the street btw they would be more than willing to see another war memorial, they love it.
    Some times it is better to say nothing, and let people think that you are ignorant, rather than say something that confirms it. The youngest OAPs were born just after WWII, and during their working life had precious little, because their wages were small. In the early 60s I had to work overtime to take home £10, and that overtime was only available every other week and the firm had no pension fund either. In those days it was not a 'throw away' society, but a time when things were not thrown out until they were worn out. If you wanted something, you saved for it, and there was no such thing as a credit card. Ordinary working folk did not have a bank account because they were paid in cash, and those that did have one, put on their best suit to see the bank manager if they wanted a loan. When asking for the loan, you had to practically convince him that you did not need it! Fast food was a sandwich. There was frozen food available, but most working class people used fresh vegetables and prepared food at home. Many of the kids that I went to school with had one parent. Not because of a lax moral standard, but because their father went to war and did not return. Perhaps that is why they appreciate a war memorial because they know what a sacrifice that those people made and they appreciate it, unlike some people who mock them on sites like this. They are the ones who wear their poppy with pride, and appreciate the truth in the words "they gave their yesterday so that we have our today."
    What are you going on about Linesman, you have read one thing and made a complete assumption and tit of yourself. . How on earth did you come to the conclussion that we are mocking them? Whatever tablets you are taking, double the dose! . Seems like you are having a swipe at the non OAP demographic of the city. . I want this built and have a lasting memorial for all that gave their life's in the war effort. . Now get of that high horse before you fall down and hurt yourself. Do you spend all day waiting in hope to copy and paste that speech of yours? Well an epic fail by you today, go put on your pipe and slippers.
    Sorry, I thought it was you that wrote, "OAPs are super rich, most own their own properties, probably paid £1k to £10k for their house which would be worth £200k." Regardless of how much a house is worth, it is the OAP's home, that they have scrimped and saved for and have had to maintain over the years. It is only worth that amount when it is sold, and that is usually when the OAP dies - so they get no benefit from their prudence - or if they have to go into a care home. Then the money is taken to pay for their keep. Of course, if they had not been prudent, lived in council housing, p'd the lot up against the wall, they would go into a care home and their keep would be paid for them. "Most have a decent pension." Another example of ignorance. There were precious few firms that had a pension scheme in the 60's. It was thanks to the work of the Unions that many businesses started such schemes, with a number also operating a 'share option' scheme. That came too late for many present-day pensioners. "Don't have to pay for bus trave." Big deal! Many of them, because of their age and state of health are unable to take advantage anyway. Also, where are going? To visit relatives? With their finances, they are not going on a big spending spree.
    If you want to talk about ignorance than it may surprise you that there is a lot higher percentage of under 65's in poverty than there is OAP's. Why because they took all the wealth. More percentage of OAP's will have a pension than anybody of this generation. They are the richest generation that have ever lived. The Unions that you speak of destroyed manufacturing in this country so left us little jobs because of constant picketing and sending firms out of business. Bus pass a big deal, give me a break it's not even a means tested benefit. Stop denying you have had it good. You have left us in the mess that their gran children are going to have to live in."
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Southampton's £2m Spitfire monument given planning permission

£2m Spitfire monument is on launch pad

£2m Spitfire monument is on launch pad

First published in Campaigns Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Education Reporter

Southampton’s gleaming £2m waterfront tribute to the Spitfire is a step closer to becoming a reality after planners gave it the green light.

A major fundraising drive is now under way to find the cash needed for the 40m-high landmark statue of the iconic plane, which will be seen by hundreds of thousands of visitors passing through the city’s docks each year.

Full planning permission has been granted by Southampton City Council for the elegant monument on land next to the historic Trafalgar dry dock, which it is hoped could become the city’s answer to the Statue of Liberty.

That has paved the way for the Spitfire Development Board to finalise the detailed design and material specification and approach corporate sponsors, individual donors and grant making bodies to raise the cash to pay for the monument.

Chairman of the Spitfire Tribute Foundation, Southampton’s culture chief, Councilllor John Hannides, said: “Getting the news on passing this vital stage has only added to the excitement that we all feel about bringing the tribute to Southampton.

“We are all looking forward to the new year and getting down to the hard work of seeing the detailed designs and engaging with as much of the public as we possibly can.”

Plans for the tribute to the famous Woolston-built fighter plane were first unveiled three years ago after a long-running campaign by the Daily Echo for the men and women who built and flew it to be honoured.

Australian architect Nick Hancock’s design was selected from 300 entries to a national competition last summer. His plans would see a giant curved steel mast raise a 1.5 times scale replica Spitfire into the air from a circular viewing platform inspired by the Royal Air Force roundel, with a pool of remembrance in its centre.

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