Southampton drugs gang jailed for over 30 years

Drugs gang jailed for over 30 years

Gary Banton

Phillip Bruce

Myles Ryan Harris

Daren James Anders

Majid Mirza

Tamoor Mirza

First published in Crime
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Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Court Reporter

SENTENCES totalling more than 30 years have been imposed on an evil gang who pedalled hard drugs on the streets of Southampton with the aid of taxis.

Nearly £40,000 in cash, thousands of pounds of heroin and crack cocaine as well as live ammunition were seized when armed police swooped on two houses in the same street last July.

In an exclusive story in July 2012, the Daily Echo revealed how police used a battering ram to dramatically smash their way into two houses in the St.Mary’s area of the city in the latest crackdown on drug gangs.

They also formed road blocks around Northbrook Road as the drama unfolded under the Operation Fortress inititiave, a £2m campaign that had only been launched a few weeks earlier by Hampshire Constabulary in their continuing war against drug distributors doing their business in Southampton.

Local residents watched from bedroom windows in shock as the arrested had their hands tied behind their backs as they lay on the pavement as officers combed the properties..

Inside they recovered a Samurai sword, 24 rounds of live rounds, the cash as well as nearly about £13,000 worth of heroin and crack cocaine which had been brought from London.

“The cash was spread around the house in various locations,” prosecutor Matthew Jewell alleged. “Although no gun has been recovered, ammunition would be useless without access to a weapon and the need for those engaged in the supply of drugs on this scale is plain.”

Gang members had been tracked sending text messages to a mobile phone number containing messages “indicative of involvement in drug dealing.”

The drugs were distributed from Northbrook Road by the booking of taxis which often travelled to Atherley Road where the prosecution claimed were a number of premises connected with their supply.

Today five people were jailed with sentences ranging from 32 months to 10 years for conspiracy to supply heroin and crack cocaine in what Judge Peter Henry describe as a well organised operation which had led to substantial quantity of drugs being brought to Southampton.

“The damage caused by drugs of this kind in physical and mental health is too well known and it is a significant cause of crime committed by addicts to fund their addiction,” he commented passing sentence.

After the hearing, Detective Superintendent Kath Barnes said: “We are delighted with the convictions and sentences. The judge has sent out a very clear message to those people involved in this form of criminal enterprise. He also made a significant point on the impact of hard drugs in the community.”

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6:57pm Fri 15 Feb 13

bigfella777 says...

Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil?
Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force, for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good.
So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil?
Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil? Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force,[1] for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good. So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil? bigfella777
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7:10pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Ciaran says...

Does this website have an higher than average quota of trolls who think they are clever and funny?

It sure as hell feels like it.
Does this website have an higher than average quota of trolls who think they are clever and funny? It sure as hell feels like it. Ciaran
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7:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13

-stiv- says...

I agree with the above, I don't want to be told what is "evil" and what isn't. Pretty sloppy but I think they're being fed an editorial line what with the exclusives on Op Fortress.

You don't need to be evil to deal drugs. But knowing you're destroying peoples lives and getting rich off it is fukcing sh1tty.
I agree with the above, I don't want to be told what is "evil" and what isn't. Pretty sloppy but I think they're being fed an editorial line what with the exclusives on Op Fortress. You don't need to be evil to deal drugs. But knowing you're destroying peoples lives and getting rich off it is fukcing sh1tty. -stiv-
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9:57pm Fri 15 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

Hmm they look inteligent
Hmm they look inteligent elvisimo
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10:35pm Fri 15 Feb 13

derek james says...

why does the de follow the national newsapers habit of saying "gang jailed for 30 years" one got 32 months and another 10 years, with good behaviour they will probably all be out within 3 years
why does the de follow the national newsapers habit of saying "gang jailed for 30 years" one got 32 months and another 10 years, with good behaviour they will probably all be out within 3 years derek james
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12:14am Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil?
Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force, for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good.
So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil?
Although my Oxford dictionary does refer to the devil in one part of the meaning of the word evil it also mentions wickedness, depravity and immorality. In my view all these apply to scum that get rich at the expense of others lives and wellbeing. Ten years in one of HMs hotels with multi TV channels and 3 square meals a day is nowhere near enough punishment to deter these evil scumbags. Personally I think a suspended sentence would be in order, by the neck!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil? Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force,[1] for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good. So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil?[/p][/quote]Although my Oxford dictionary does refer to the devil in one part of the meaning of the word evil it also mentions wickedness, depravity and immorality. In my view all these apply to scum that get rich at the expense of others lives and wellbeing. Ten years in one of HMs hotels with multi TV channels and 3 square meals a day is nowhere near enough punishment to deter these evil scumbags. Personally I think a suspended sentence would be in order, by the neck! Inform Al
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9:43am Sat 16 Feb 13

Maine Lobster says...

elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals. Maine Lobster
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11:21am Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck. Inform Al
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11:27am Sat 16 Feb 13

hythe knights says...

Drug dealers are vermin and we need the correct punishment for these low life scum to stop dealing.
Drug dealers are vermin and we need the correct punishment for these low life scum to stop dealing. hythe knights
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12:03pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

If we invest in things like operation fortress, the number of drug addicts is not decreasing.

If you decrease the number of "outlets" the drug will get more expensive.

Quoting the judge: “The damage caused by drugs of this kind in physical and mental health is too well known and it is a significant cause of crime committed by addicts to fund their addiction,” he commented passing sentence.

Taking the basic rules of economics of supply and demand, if you do nothing do reduce the demand and only hit the supply, those in demand will have to pay more for a product not so easily available. This in turn would lead to the victims (the addicts) to act more unlawfully.

Does anyone else seriously don’t get this logic?

Without imposing martial law and searching every single house top to bottom in the UK, drugs will continue to be peddled.

If you spend resources only hitting the supply chains it just means those in demand will have to pay more.

Government control of supply and income gained used to treat the demand is the only way this would ever improve.
If we invest in things like operation fortress, the number of drug addicts is not decreasing. If you decrease the number of "outlets" the drug will get more expensive. Quoting the judge: “The damage caused by drugs of this kind in physical and mental health is too well known and it is a significant cause of crime committed by addicts to fund their addiction,” he commented passing sentence. Taking the basic rules of economics of supply and demand, if you do nothing do reduce the demand and only hit the supply, those in demand will have to pay more for a product not so easily available. This in turn would lead to the victims (the addicts) to act more unlawfully. Does anyone else seriously don’t get this logic? Without imposing martial law and searching every single house top to bottom in the UK, drugs will continue to be peddled. If you spend resources only hitting the supply chains it just means those in demand will have to pay more. Government control of supply and income gained used to treat the demand is the only way this would ever improve. Subject48
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12:42pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Subject48 wrote:
If we invest in things like operation fortress, the number of drug addicts is not decreasing.

If you decrease the number of "outlets" the drug will get more expensive.

Quoting the judge: “The damage caused by drugs of this kind in physical and mental health is too well known and it is a significant cause of crime committed by addicts to fund their addiction,” he commented passing sentence.

Taking the basic rules of economics of supply and demand, if you do nothing do reduce the demand and only hit the supply, those in demand will have to pay more for a product not so easily available. This in turn would lead to the victims (the addicts) to act more unlawfully.

Does anyone else seriously don’t get this logic?

Without imposing martial law and searching every single house top to bottom in the UK, drugs will continue to be peddled.

If you spend resources only hitting the supply chains it just means those in demand will have to pay more.

Government control of supply and income gained used to treat the demand is the only way this would ever improve.
Every drug user would support this argument, those of us who still have a fully functional brain and have never touched the filthy stuff are interested in the effect that mind blown users have on innocent victims. Just hang ALL dealers and eventually the problem will be buried
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: If we invest in things like operation fortress, the number of drug addicts is not decreasing. If you decrease the number of "outlets" the drug will get more expensive. Quoting the judge: “The damage caused by drugs of this kind in physical and mental health is too well known and it is a significant cause of crime committed by addicts to fund their addiction,” he commented passing sentence. Taking the basic rules of economics of supply and demand, if you do nothing do reduce the demand and only hit the supply, those in demand will have to pay more for a product not so easily available. This in turn would lead to the victims (the addicts) to act more unlawfully. Does anyone else seriously don’t get this logic? Without imposing martial law and searching every single house top to bottom in the UK, drugs will continue to be peddled. If you spend resources only hitting the supply chains it just means those in demand will have to pay more. Government control of supply and income gained used to treat the demand is the only way this would ever improve.[/p][/quote]Every drug user would support this argument, those of us who still have a fully functional brain and have never touched the filthy stuff are interested in the effect that mind blown users have on innocent victims. Just hang ALL dealers and eventually the problem will be buried Inform Al
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2:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders. cantthinkofone
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2:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts Inform Al
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3:02pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh. cantthinkofone
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3:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed. elvisimo
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5:12pm Sat 16 Feb 13

chrisja says...

Right. So there is no, in fact, 'gun drama in Southampton street' WHATSOEVER and you've just blatantly regurgitated a story which is over 6 months old now simply because the court case has reached a conclusion. Completey and utterly pathetic...
Right. So there is no, in fact, 'gun drama in Southampton street' WHATSOEVER and you've just blatantly regurgitated a story which is over 6 months old now simply because the court case has reached a conclusion. Completey and utterly pathetic... chrisja
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8:02pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil?
Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force, for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good.
So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil?
Yep, just the hard facts please, no moralising. Just another poorly written article from the DE - '24 rounds of live rounds'? Come on.......
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Why use the word evil? Does this mean that the act of dealing drugs is evil? Or that those convicted were actually evil? How do you define evil? Evil is profound immorality, especially when regarded as a supernatural force,[1] for example in religious belief. Evil is usually perceived as the dualistic opposite of good. So are you suggesting that they're religous beliefs might have made them evil?[/p][/quote]Yep, just the hard facts please, no moralising. Just another poorly written article from the DE - '24 rounds of live rounds'? Come on....... kingnotail
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8:03pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

elvisimo wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
Users then?
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed.[/p][/quote]Users then? Inform Al
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8:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
About as intelligent as someone who can't spell intelligent
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]About as intelligent as someone who can't spell intelligent kingnotail
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8:12pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

Inform Al wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
Users then?
And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed.[/p][/quote]Users then?[/p][/quote]And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted. kingnotail
  • Score: -1

8:15pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users. Inform Al
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8:34pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then? kingnotail
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8:37pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then?[/p][/quote]And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist. kingnotail
  • Score: -1

10:27pm Sat 16 Feb 13

AdamSFC says...

kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
Users then?
And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted.
Careful about admitting this to "Inform Al" he will want to hang you too! I've got an idea, why don't we hang everyone, like literally everyone, then there will be nobody left to commit crime, problem solved : ). I might take up reactionary politics myself, it's much easier than thinking.
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed.[/p][/quote]Users then?[/p][/quote]And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted.[/p][/quote]Careful about admitting this to "Inform Al" he will want to hang you too! I've got an idea, why don't we hang everyone, like literally everyone, then there will be nobody left to commit crime, problem solved : ). I might take up reactionary politics myself, it's much easier than thinking. AdamSFC
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11:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

AdamSFC wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
Users then?
And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted.
Careful about admitting this to "Inform Al" he will want to hang you too! I've got an idea, why don't we hang everyone, like literally everyone, then there will be nobody left to commit crime, problem solved : ). I might take up reactionary politics myself, it's much easier than thinking.
The feeling that only brain damaged users support the use of cannabis grows stronger with every post I read,
[quote][p][bold]AdamSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed.[/p][/quote]Users then?[/p][/quote]And proud of it. And what you gonna do, EX-policeman? Yes too much weed can seriously mess up your mind, but no more than too much alcohol can. The social harm caused by perfectly legal alcohol is infinitely greater than by any illegal drug. If you want to see drug dealers hang then I suggest you move to some fascist theocratic state like Saudi Arabia, and see how long you last without many of the freedoms you take for granted.[/p][/quote]Careful about admitting this to "Inform Al" he will want to hang you too! I've got an idea, why don't we hang everyone, like literally everyone, then there will be nobody left to commit crime, problem solved : ). I might take up reactionary politics myself, it's much easier than thinking.[/p][/quote]The feeling that only brain damaged users support the use of cannabis grows stronger with every post I read, Inform Al
  • Score: 0

11:28pm Sat 16 Feb 13

vickyashley27 says...

in 3 weeks staffordshire police have arrested over 30 people in drug raid round one area now that is good and 20 plus have been remanded to go to crown court
in 3 weeks staffordshire police have arrested over 30 people in drug raid round one area now that is good and 20 plus have been remanded to go to crown court vickyashley27
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1:02am Sun 17 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

vickyashley27 wrote:
in 3 weeks staffordshire police have arrested over 30 people in drug raid round one area now that is good and 20 plus have been remanded to go to crown court
If guiltry hang the bast4rds, the war so far has only been 1 way, Against us!
[quote][p][bold]vickyashley27[/bold] wrote: in 3 weeks staffordshire police have arrested over 30 people in drug raid round one area now that is good and 20 plus have been remanded to go to crown court[/p][/quote]If guiltry hang the bast4rds, the war so far has only been 1 way, Against us! Inform Al
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1:09am Sun 17 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

kingnotail wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.
Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then?[/p][/quote]And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.[/p][/quote]Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it. Inform Al
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1:33am Sun 17 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

Inform Al wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.
Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.
Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then?[/p][/quote]And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.[/p][/quote]Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.[/p][/quote]Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on. kingnotail
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10:01am Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.
Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.
Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on.
Brilliant
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then?[/p][/quote]And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.[/p][/quote]Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.[/p][/quote]Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on.[/p][/quote]Brilliant elvisimo
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11:34am Sun 17 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

elvisimo wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
So you're racist as well as stupid then?
And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.
Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.
Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on.
Brilliant
Connecticut is actually quite near to Washington State and the offender at the school killings displayed signs of depressiion before the act, as also did the 'Batman' murderer a while ago. But I did not include these in my post as they are not in the 'legalised' states, however both appear to have suffered from mental health problems, the intelligent question would be why? especially since the Batman murderer had been an exceptional chemistry student and his mental state had deteriorated quite speedilly.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]So you're racist as well as stupid then?[/p][/quote]And cannabis was only legalised in two US states within the last few months, and is still illegal by federal law. Do you have the statistics to back up your claims? Of course you don't, because they don't exist.[/p][/quote]Read the papers tw4t. All those kids that were murdered at school in connecticut were not many miles from a cannabis legalised state. And aparently the tw4t that did it had mental health problems. Wonder why? and will those in charge ever admit it.[/p][/quote]Cannabis is legal in Colorado and Washington state - if you think either of these are anywhere near connecticut, then you are even more of an idiot than you already let on.[/p][/quote]Brilliant[/p][/quote]Connecticut is actually quite near to Washington State and the offender at the school killings displayed signs of depressiion before the act, as also did the 'Batman' murderer a while ago. But I did not include these in my post as they are not in the 'legalised' states, however both appear to have suffered from mental health problems, the intelligent question would be why? especially since the Batman murderer had been an exceptional chemistry student and his mental state had deteriorated quite speedilly. Inform Al
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5:27pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cliffwalker says...

elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
Or maybe intelligent do you think?
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]Or maybe intelligent do you think? cliffwalker
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5:36pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cliffwalker says...

If we were to comment only on the basis of evidence instead of prejudice and/or anecdote this would be a much shorter thread.
If we were to comment only on the basis of evidence instead of prejudice and/or anecdote this would be a much shorter thread. cliffwalker
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5:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts
This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.
Agreed.
Users then?
No, for the record.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]You are talking to an ex police officer and ex appropriate adult with Mind who knows that what I said is fact, regardless of the disengenuous lies put about by users, dealers and other pr4tts[/p][/quote]This type of argument is known as an "appeal to authority", and is both a fallacy, and also rather pathetic tbh.[/p][/quote]Agreed.[/p][/quote]Users then?[/p][/quote]No, for the record. cantthinkofone
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5:45pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Hmm they look inteligent
I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs.
Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.
Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.
No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field.

There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers.

Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.
Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.
Ice cream causes shark attacks.

Correlation is not causation. Try and show a bit more logical discipline eh.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Hmm they look inteligent[/p][/quote]I expect they made a fortune out of this sordid trade while no doubt claiming benefits. After all who has time to go to work if there is so much easy money to be made peddling drugs. Another example of why we should decriminalise drugs, give it to addicts free while treating them and keep the ill gotten gains from the criminals.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately even so called mild drugs such as cannabis have led to psychological problems by users that have led to the deaths of other innocent victims. The best answer is to save money by giving ALL drug dealers a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]No, they haven't. What you're referring to is probably the two NZ studies a decade ago that turned out to be utterly flawed and were subsequently rejected by the academic community. You may alternatively be making that judgement on the basis of anecdote, which ignores the very real phenomenon of self-medication, something that is accepted by experts in the field. There are pros and cons to legalisation, but the debate has to be had on the basis of scientific facts, not incorrect Chinese whispers. Portugal quietly decriminalised cannabis many years ago. There has been no increase in mental health disorders.[/p][/quote]Hard to tell with the hispanics if they are sane or not, however where cannabis has been legalised in the US there has been an increase in gun murders, but they do avoid letting us know if the offenders were users.[/p][/quote]Ice cream causes shark attacks. Correlation is not causation. Try and show a bit more logical discipline eh. cantthinkofone
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5:49pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious.

And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D
Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious. And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D cantthinkofone
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6:34pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious.

And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D
Some may be, but none as thick as you
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious. And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D[/p][/quote]Some may be, but none as thick as you Inform Al
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10:25pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious.

And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D
Some may be, but none as thick as you
*zing*!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Wow. Having read the rest of the comments now, I can only conclude that Inform Al is the illegitimate love-child of Southy and Nick Griffin. Just hilarious. And who said that coppers were thick eh! ;-D[/p][/quote]Some may be, but none as thick as you[/p][/quote]*zing*! cantthinkofone
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3:41pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

Hang them all. Violence is your answer to a deep social and political issue?

You have clearly not read my post. At all. Only an ape or a halfwit would consider violence and death before applying logic.

Once again not very informed al. Not very.

For the record; I’m not a user myself. (Dabbled in some things recreationally from time to time and still do) I have many friends that are however. I seriously believe my way of thinking is the best way to help those whom I think to have a problem.
Hang them all. Violence is your answer to a deep social and political issue? You have clearly not read my post. At all. Only an ape or a halfwit would consider violence and death before applying logic. Once again not very informed al. Not very. For the record; I’m not a user myself. (Dabbled in some things recreationally from time to time and still do) I have many friends that are however. I seriously believe my way of thinking is the best way to help those whom I think to have a problem. Subject48
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4:02pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Pikey-Biker says...

I think Informed Al was referring to dealers rather than users
I think Informed Al was referring to dealers rather than users Pikey-Biker
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5:07pm Mon 18 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

****-Biker wrote:
I think Informed Al was referring to dealers rather than users
Just as bad though.

Why are so few dealers from middle-class and privileged backgrounds?

It's because they believe that they have better options available to them.

As with a lot of street crime and similar, drug dealing is a symptom, not the disease itself. Attacking the symptom will never eradicate the disease. It's the causes that need to be addressed, not simply the effects.
[quote][p][bold]****-Biker[/bold] wrote: I think Informed Al was referring to dealers rather than users[/p][/quote]Just as bad though. Why are so few dealers from middle-class and privileged backgrounds? It's because they believe that they have better options available to them. As with a lot of street crime and similar, drug dealing is a symptom, not the disease itself. Attacking the symptom will never eradicate the disease. It's the causes that need to be addressed, not simply the effects. cantthinkofone
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7:32pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Subject48 wrote:
Hang them all. Violence is your answer to a deep social and political issue?

You have clearly not read my post. At all. Only an ape or a halfwit would consider violence and death before applying logic.

Once again not very informed al. Not very.

For the record; I’m not a user myself. (Dabbled in some things recreationally from time to time and still do) I have many friends that are however. I seriously believe my way of thinking is the best way to help those whom I think to have a problem.
War is war and people get killed, unfortunately the war has only been declared one way at the present time.
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: Hang them all. Violence is your answer to a deep social and political issue? You have clearly not read my post. At all. Only an ape or a halfwit would consider violence and death before applying logic. Once again not very informed al. Not very. For the record; I’m not a user myself. (Dabbled in some things recreationally from time to time and still do) I have many friends that are however. I seriously believe my way of thinking is the best way to help those whom I think to have a problem.[/p][/quote]War is war and people get killed, unfortunately the war has only been declared one way at the present time. Inform Al
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2:10pm Thu 28 Feb 13

kiddynamite says...

Crack is Whack!
Crack is Whack! kiddynamite
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3:57pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Pikey-Biker says...

whack as in wacky?
whack as in wacky? Pikey-Biker
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