Poachers shoot dead huge stag the Monarch in New Forest

Daily Echo: Poachers shoot dead huge stag in New Forest Poachers shoot dead huge stag in New Forest

One of the biggest and well-known stags in Britain has been shot dead by poachers desperate to get their hands on its prized antlers.

The 16-year-old red deer, known as The Monarch because of its regal stature, was gunned down in the New Forest.

The poachers fired at the creature with a rifle, hitting its skull, but the calibre of the gun was too low and the bullet ricocheted off.

Mortally wounded, the Monarch ran in agony for the safety of water, a natural instinct for deer.

Its lifeless body was found later floating in a lake where it is thought to have drowned.

It is likely the Monarch was shot by poachers wanting its head and impressive 16-point antlers to mount as a trophy and sell on.

The antlers alone are thought to be worth more than £1,000.

The Monarch was believed to have stood at around 8ft tall including his antlers and weighed 25 stone.

He was so well known and revered in the New Forest that gift shops sell souvenirs with pictures of him on it including mugs, clocks and jewellery.

The Monarch was the biggest of a herd of 40 red deer owned by farmer Dan Tanner and kept at Burley Park near Ringwood.

He was often spotted by visitors on the popular New Forest Deer Safari tours run by Mr Tanner.

Although there are other stags in the herd the Monarch was regarded as the head of the group.

Daily Echo:

Hampshire police have launched an investigation into the killing.

Mr Tanner, 65, said: "It is very sad but unfortunately it is not that unusual. Poaching is a real problem.

"The Monarch was about 16 years old and was a fine specimen of an animal. He was shot by a poacher but the bullet wasn't a heavy enough calibre to stop him.

"He ran to a river which he tried to swim through but he drowned there. The poachers never got their hands on him.

"Because The Monarch had such a fine set of antlers he would have been very attractive to poachers. They would have wanted his head as a trophy.

"His death is a great loss and waste of life."

A spokesman for Hampshire police said: "Police are investigating after a landowner reported a stag from his estate had been shot. The stag was found on Sunday, February 16.

 

"It is believed that the red stag, the biggest on the estate, was shot between Friday, February 14 and Sunday, February 16."

The red deer - Cervus elaphus in Latin - is Britain's largest land mammal and can live to around 18 years old.

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11:37am Fri 14 Mar 14

Huey says...

"He ran to a ran...
WTF? No checks this stuff do they?
"He ran to a ran... WTF? No checks this stuff do they? Huey
  • Score: -37

11:42am Fri 14 Mar 14

Cyber__Fug says...

Huey wrote:
"He ran to a ran...
WTF? No checks this stuff do they?
No checks posting either ! ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: "He ran to a ran... WTF? No checks this stuff do they?[/p][/quote]No checks posting either ! ;o) Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 43

12:21pm Fri 14 Mar 14

For pity sake says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Huey wrote:
"He ran to a ran...
WTF? No checks this stuff do they?
No checks posting either ! ;o)
You couldn't make it up...
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: "He ran to a ran... WTF? No checks this stuff do they?[/p][/quote]No checks posting either ! ;o)[/p][/quote]You couldn't make it up... For pity sake
  • Score: 16

1:04pm Fri 14 Mar 14

bigfella777 says...

For pity sake wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
Huey wrote:
"He ran to a ran...
WTF? No checks this stuff do they?
No checks posting either ! ;o)
You couldn't make it up...
The poor dear,
[quote][p][bold]For pity sake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: "He ran to a ran... WTF? No checks this stuff do they?[/p][/quote]No checks posting either ! ;o)[/p][/quote]You couldn't make it up...[/p][/quote]The poor dear, bigfella777
  • Score: -7

1:06pm Fri 14 Mar 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Oh DEER DEER DEER
Oh DEER DEER DEER SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: -35

1:08pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

these stag do 's are getting worse look out for a cheap hat rack for sale
these stag do 's are getting worse look out for a cheap hat rack for sale mickey01
  • Score: -31

1:19pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at Mary80
  • Score: 64

1:29pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Rockstone says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Oh DEER DEER DEER
You pathetic lame brain
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Oh DEER DEER DEER[/p][/quote]You pathetic lame brain Rockstone
  • Score: 16

1:30pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Rockstone says...

mickey01 wrote:
these stag do 's are getting worse look out for a cheap hat rack for sale
Pass me the sick bucket
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: these stag do 's are getting worse look out for a cheap hat rack for sale[/p][/quote]Pass me the sick bucket Rockstone
  • Score: -3

1:36pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate. charrlee
  • Score: 15

2:31pm Fri 14 Mar 14

shesaint says...

charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible. shesaint
  • Score: 20

2:39pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Saint Botley says...

Absolute scumbags. Find them and throw the book at them.
Absolute scumbags. Find them and throw the book at them. Saint Botley
  • Score: 28

2:41pm Fri 14 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
Why would they pre-moderate? A few nasty comments, southy pretending to know everything about everything, and the same tired old arguments between and don't really have much effect on anything at all, let alone the DE income. It would cost a considerable amount to have someone monitoring the comments prior to releasing them, and of course result in endless "I was censored lol freedom of speech" complaints into the bargain.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]Why would they pre-moderate? A few nasty comments, southy pretending to know everything about everything, and the same tired old arguments between and don't really have much effect on anything at all, let alone the DE income. It would cost a considerable amount to have someone monitoring the comments prior to releasing them, and of course result in endless "I was censored lol freedom of speech" complaints into the bargain. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 10

2:43pm Fri 14 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

shesaint wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things.
[quote][p][bold]shesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.[/p][/quote]Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 10

2:58pm Fri 14 Mar 14

SFC-Matt says...

If the antlers were not acquired then it was a wasted shot.
If the antlers were not acquired then it was a wasted shot. SFC-Matt
  • Score: -15

3:00pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Niel says...

Hummm, IF they wanted the antlers why shoot it in the head and risk damaging them? More likely shot by someone wanting the meat and head shot to leave it undamaged.
Hummm, IF they wanted the antlers why shoot it in the head and risk damaging them? More likely shot by someone wanting the meat and head shot to leave it undamaged. Niel
  • Score: 2

3:42pm Fri 14 Mar 14

chavfreezone says...

One of Cameron's toffy nosed mates i expect. The blood sport loving Countryside Alliance who claim to love the countryside and love to murder all its wildlife. Scum the lot of them.
One of Cameron's toffy nosed mates i expect. The blood sport loving Countryside Alliance who claim to love the countryside and love to murder all its wildlife. Scum the lot of them. chavfreezone
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Fri 14 Mar 14

derek james says...

it appears to have been shot on private land, if it had been shot in a public part of the forest presumably the perpetrator would face a large fine/inprisonment for using a firearm in a public place.what's the penalty for the same offence on private land?
it appears to have been shot on private land, if it had been shot in a public part of the forest presumably the perpetrator would face a large fine/inprisonment for using a firearm in a public place.what's the penalty for the same offence on private land? derek james
  • Score: 6

4:11pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

shesaint wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
I subscribe to two major papers (I mean pay a subscription charge), all comments are read before posting, and offensive ones are not screened. I know this because I commented on something Stewart Lee said, using the words he used, and it was not screened. The editors and journalists actively participate in the discussions, and it is far more rewarding and enjoyable than the majority of what you get here.

All you would need is some young, rookie "speed reader" journalists to pre-monitor the forum - 6.00am to 2.00pm, and 2.00pm to 10.00pm. Let's face it : only half a dozen stories get more than 20 comments, others two or three, and the majority none at all. Once people got used to the idea that an offensive comment would not make it to the screen, they'd stop bothering and the proof reading would get easier. There are a lot of stories that really are not worth the time of day, so if existing journalists took turns on pre-moderating instead of wasting time on insignificant tales, then we might just have a forum that was a joy to use.

Go read some of the forums of non-tabloid papers. You'll see the difference. Even ICQ root out the "baddies" as they arrive. No, to Kerin's shame (Murray, ultimately), this is the worst-run forum on the internet.
[quote][p][bold]shesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.[/p][/quote]I subscribe to two major papers (I mean pay a subscription charge), all comments are read before posting, and offensive ones are not screened. I know this because I commented on something Stewart Lee said, using the words he used, and it was not screened. The editors and journalists actively participate in the discussions, and it is far more rewarding and enjoyable than the majority of what you get here. All you would need is some young, rookie "speed reader" journalists to pre-monitor the forum - 6.00am to 2.00pm, and 2.00pm to 10.00pm. Let's face it : only half a dozen stories get more than 20 comments, others two or three, and the majority none at all. Once people got used to the idea that an offensive comment would not make it to the screen, they'd stop bothering and the proof reading would get easier. There are a lot of stories that really are not worth the time of day, so if existing journalists took turns on pre-moderating instead of wasting time on insignificant tales, then we might just have a forum that was a joy to use. Go read some of the forums of non-tabloid papers. You'll see the difference. Even ICQ root out the "baddies" as they arrive. No, to Kerin's shame (Murray, ultimately), this is the worst-run forum on the internet. charrlee
  • Score: -2

4:23pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
shesaint wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things.
As usual, complete nonsense from Ratchet. You know very well policing open forums is very useful in keeping the slanging matches and offensive material out.

Most people won't realise you have taken your nickname from a character in Viz magazine : a grubby, infantile, toilet-joke comic that amuses kids. This being your taste in literature, it would not be in your interests to see this forum tidied up.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.[/p][/quote]Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things.[/p][/quote]As usual, complete nonsense from Ratchet. You know very well policing open forums is very useful in keeping the slanging matches and offensive material out. Most people won't realise you have taken your nickname from a character in Viz magazine : a grubby, infantile, toilet-joke comic that amuses kids. This being your taste in literature, it would not be in your interests to see this forum tidied up. charrlee
  • Score: -2

4:37pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Munchausen says...

A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth." Munchausen
  • Score: 8

4:56pm Fri 14 Mar 14

teslpl says...

Huey wrote:
"He ran to a ran...
WTF? No checks this stuff do they?
Neither do you 'no checks this stuff do they',not exactly English,you should have said 'no one checks this stuff do they?' and I have no idea as to what you think you saw at least it looks like the Echo corrected their mistake!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: "He ran to a ran... WTF? No checks this stuff do they?[/p][/quote]Neither do you 'no checks this stuff do they',not exactly English,you should have said 'no one checks this stuff do they?' and I have no idea as to what you think you saw at least it looks like the Echo corrected their mistake!!!! teslpl
  • Score: 3

6:15pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............
....................
..
[quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... .. charrlee
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Fri 14 Mar 14

freefinker says...

Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
Well said. It's amazing, isn't it. All this fuss over one killed animal. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK every year over 600 million sentient animals have their lives prematurely ended without much being said.
Yes, most of you just don't want to face up to reality.
[quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]Well said. It's amazing, isn't it. All this fuss over one killed animal. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK every year over 600 million sentient animals have their lives prematurely ended without much being said. Yes, most of you just don't want to face up to reality. freefinker
  • Score: -2

7:41pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

freefinker wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
Well said. It's amazing, isn't it. All this fuss over one killed animal. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK every year over 600 million sentient animals have their lives prematurely ended without much being said.
Yes, most of you just don't want to face up to reality.
Hope you don't mind, freefinker, but I thought I might respond to your comment. Not sure whether you are being serious or ironic. The key might be if you were a vegetarian..........
..........

Are you a fan of the Smith's second album?

Two headlines :
1. Six pigs slaughtered in machete attack.
2. Six golden retriever puppies slaughtered in machete attack.
Which would upset the public more?

Bambi, Rudolph......two much-loved creatures from our childhood. That's how we all learned to love deer. Don't recall any Disney films or Christmas carols about pigs or cows. Horses, maybe.......
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]Well said. It's amazing, isn't it. All this fuss over one killed animal. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK every year over 600 million sentient animals have their lives prematurely ended without much being said. Yes, most of you just don't want to face up to reality.[/p][/quote]Hope you don't mind, freefinker, but I thought I might respond to your comment. Not sure whether you are being serious or ironic. The key might be if you were a vegetarian.......... .......... Are you a fan of the Smith's second album? Two headlines : 1. Six pigs slaughtered in machete attack. 2. Six golden retriever puppies slaughtered in machete attack. Which would upset the public more? Bambi, Rudolph......two much-loved creatures from our childhood. That's how we all learned to love deer. Don't recall any Disney films or Christmas carols about pigs or cows. Horses, maybe....... charrlee
  • Score: -7

7:55pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............

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[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]tosser mickey01
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Fri 14 Mar 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Rockstone wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Oh DEER DEER DEER
You pathetic lame brain
Bless
[quote][p][bold]Rockstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Oh DEER DEER DEER[/p][/quote]You pathetic lame brain[/p][/quote]Bless SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

i wanted a buck and then a stag but the price was two deer for me
i wanted a buck and then a stag but the price was two deer for me mickey01
  • Score: -6

8:40pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

mickey01 wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............


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tosser
If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]tosser[/p][/quote]If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating. charrlee
  • Score: -2

9:02pm Fri 14 Mar 14

freefinker says...

charrlee wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............



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tosser
If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.
Oh do shut up about pre-moderating.
Nobody's bloody well interested.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]tosser[/p][/quote]If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.[/p][/quote]Oh do shut up about pre-moderating. Nobody's bloody well interested. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. freefinker
  • Score: 4

9:46pm Fri 14 Mar 14

charrlee says...

freefinker wrote:
charrlee wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............




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tosser
If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.
Oh do shut up about pre-moderating.
Nobody's bloody well interested.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
I see you've given yourself a plus vote for your rudeness, and haven't bothered to answer my questions above.

"Nobody's bloody well interested" in pre-moderation. Bit of a sweeping statement, don't you fink - sorry - think ? You've checked with all 254,000 have you? Well, a sample 1000 - have you? You haven't checked with anyone, have you? The truth is YOU aren't "bloody well interested", and that is about it.

Many people have complained about the way certain forum users conduct themselves. I wouldn't mind betting thousands of people do not use this site because of the unpleasantness here. I happen to know that many of the site administrators hold many of the forum users in contempt.

Now Billy The Kid and Jayne would have given you a darned good telling off, and stormed off the site in disgust. But I'm different. I know that my indifference to your provocation annoys you. If you reply to this, I win. If you don't, I still win because I am controlling you. Check mate. You're not as free as you like to fink, are you?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]tosser[/p][/quote]If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.[/p][/quote]Oh do shut up about pre-moderating. Nobody's bloody well interested. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]I see you've given yourself a plus vote for your rudeness, and haven't bothered to answer my questions above. "Nobody's bloody well interested" in pre-moderation. Bit of a sweeping statement, don't you fink - sorry - think ? You've checked with all 254,000 have you? Well, a sample 1000 - have you? You haven't checked with anyone, have you? The truth is YOU aren't "bloody well interested", and that is about it. Many people have complained about the way certain forum users conduct themselves. I wouldn't mind betting thousands of people do not use this site because of the unpleasantness here. I happen to know that many of the site administrators hold many of the forum users in contempt. Now Billy The Kid and Jayne would have given you a darned good telling off, and stormed off the site in disgust. But I'm different. I know that my indifference to your provocation annoys you. If you reply to this, I win. If you don't, I still win because I am controlling you. Check mate. You're not as free as you like to fink, are you? charrlee
  • Score: -4

10:52pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Slaneymerlin says...

Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
Very well said!
[quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]Very well said! Slaneymerlin
  • Score: 2

8:14am Sat 15 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

chavfreezone wrote:
One of Cameron's toffy nosed mates i expect. The blood sport loving Countryside Alliance who claim to love the countryside and love to murder all its wildlife. Scum the lot of them.
Yes, no doubt in a top hat and frock coat and stood on 2 workers who'd died from watered beer.
Or maybe , just maybe, the poachers were some of the 4 million, and growing rapidly, welfare dependent underclass.
On a more sensible note, is it beyond Man's ability to manufacture lifelike artificial rhino horn, tusks and antlers and flood the market with them so that, for example, the dimwits who think that powdered rhino horn makes them (biologically impossible) big boys would just give up on it?
[quote][p][bold]chavfreezone[/bold] wrote: One of Cameron's toffy nosed mates i expect. The blood sport loving Countryside Alliance who claim to love the countryside and love to murder all its wildlife. Scum the lot of them.[/p][/quote]Yes, no doubt in a top hat and frock coat and stood on 2 workers who'd died from watered beer. Or maybe , just maybe, the poachers were some of the 4 million, and growing rapidly, welfare dependent underclass. On a more sensible note, is it beyond Man's ability to manufacture lifelike artificial rhino horn, tusks and antlers and flood the market with them so that, for example, the dimwits who think that powdered rhino horn makes them (biologically impossible) big boys would just give up on it? Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

9:15am Sat 15 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
freefinker wrote:
charrlee wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............





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tosser
If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.
Oh do shut up about pre-moderating.
Nobody's bloody well interested.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
I see you've given yourself a plus vote for your rudeness, and haven't bothered to answer my questions above.

"Nobody's bloody well interested" in pre-moderation. Bit of a sweeping statement, don't you fink - sorry - think ? You've checked with all 254,000 have you? Well, a sample 1000 - have you? You haven't checked with anyone, have you? The truth is YOU aren't "bloody well interested", and that is about it.

Many people have complained about the way certain forum users conduct themselves. I wouldn't mind betting thousands of people do not use this site because of the unpleasantness here. I happen to know that many of the site administrators hold many of the forum users in contempt.

Now Billy The Kid and Jayne would have given you a darned good telling off, and stormed off the site in disgust. But I'm different. I know that my indifference to your provocation annoys you. If you reply to this, I win. If you don't, I still win because I am controlling you. Check mate. You're not as free as you like to fink, are you?
The mask slips once again Billy. Seriously, get a life. You're absolutely awful at this. What a sad thing to be awful at, too. You're a joke.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]tosser[/p][/quote]If people like you, with attitudes like yours did not exist, this forum would not need pre-moderating.[/p][/quote]Oh do shut up about pre-moderating. Nobody's bloody well interested. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]I see you've given yourself a plus vote for your rudeness, and haven't bothered to answer my questions above. "Nobody's bloody well interested" in pre-moderation. Bit of a sweeping statement, don't you fink - sorry - think ? You've checked with all 254,000 have you? Well, a sample 1000 - have you? You haven't checked with anyone, have you? The truth is YOU aren't "bloody well interested", and that is about it. Many people have complained about the way certain forum users conduct themselves. I wouldn't mind betting thousands of people do not use this site because of the unpleasantness here. I happen to know that many of the site administrators hold many of the forum users in contempt. Now Billy The Kid and Jayne would have given you a darned good telling off, and stormed off the site in disgust. But I'm different. I know that my indifference to your provocation annoys you. If you reply to this, I win. If you don't, I still win because I am controlling you. Check mate. You're not as free as you like to fink, are you?[/p][/quote]The mask slips once again Billy. Seriously, get a life. You're absolutely awful at this. What a sad thing to be awful at, too. You're a joke. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 5

9:18am Sat 15 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
shesaint wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things.
As usual, complete nonsense from Ratchet. You know very well policing open forums is very useful in keeping the slanging matches and offensive material out.

Most people won't realise you have taken your nickname from a character in Viz magazine : a grubby, infantile, toilet-joke comic that amuses kids. This being your taste in literature, it would not be in your interests to see this forum tidied up.
You clearly read it too. Anyway, how long did you last this time before you couldn't resist trying to "win" the forums again? Two weeks? A new low, Billy. Now go away. You aren't going to turn this place into your own personal Wild West again. Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.[/p][/quote]Well put. The net level of offensiveness of the comments here is fairly low anyway. Beyond being immediately irritated upon reading one of them, I doubt anyone even remembers most of them five minutes later. Policing them is a complete waste of time in the grand scheme of things.[/p][/quote]As usual, complete nonsense from Ratchet. You know very well policing open forums is very useful in keeping the slanging matches and offensive material out. Most people won't realise you have taken your nickname from a character in Viz magazine : a grubby, infantile, toilet-joke comic that amuses kids. This being your taste in literature, it would not be in your interests to see this forum tidied up.[/p][/quote]You clearly read it too. Anyway, how long did you last this time before you couldn't resist trying to "win" the forums again? Two weeks? A new low, Billy. Now go away. You aren't going to turn this place into your own personal Wild West again. Idiot. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 5

9:21am Sat 15 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
shesaint wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at
On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV.

No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.
I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.
I subscribe to two major papers (I mean pay a subscription charge), all comments are read before posting, and offensive ones are not screened. I know this because I commented on something Stewart Lee said, using the words he used, and it was not screened. The editors and journalists actively participate in the discussions, and it is far more rewarding and enjoyable than the majority of what you get here.

All you would need is some young, rookie "speed reader" journalists to pre-monitor the forum - 6.00am to 2.00pm, and 2.00pm to 10.00pm. Let's face it : only half a dozen stories get more than 20 comments, others two or three, and the majority none at all. Once people got used to the idea that an offensive comment would not make it to the screen, they'd stop bothering and the proof reading would get easier. There are a lot of stories that really are not worth the time of day, so if existing journalists took turns on pre-moderating instead of wasting time on insignificant tales, then we might just have a forum that was a joy to use.

Go read some of the forums of non-tabloid papers. You'll see the difference. Even ICQ root out the "baddies" as they arrive. No, to Kerin's shame (Murray, ultimately), this is the worst-run forum on the internet.
You're not seriously comparing a two-bit local rag to a national newspaper, are you? Jesus, you really are delusional. What a loser. The only way you get any sense of worth out of life is from imagining yourself as some sheriff cleaning up the Echo comment section and chastising we naughty children. That's genuinely the most pathetic thing I've ever heard in my life.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Find the scum who did this and shoot them see how they like being shot at[/p][/quote]On this, Mary80, I totally agree with you, and I imagine most readers will. Such a terrible thing to do to such a beautiful, magnificent animal. And you can bet your life a fair number of people know who did this - I mean, a couple of yobs wouldn't come up with this while watching TV. No surprises, of course, regarding who would come onto this forum and make jokes about the story. Still, the full blame lies with Kerins and his useless administrators who refuse to pre-moderate.[/p][/quote]I dont think you can blame the journalists for the offensive comments of posters anymore than you can blame the journalists for your comments. I'm sure you would complain if they decided not to post your views. I think the laws are quite specific on freedom of speech and thoughts. I know someone who did a job very similar to Dan Kerins and I can assure you they had far more to do than sit at a desk and read EVERY single comment that was posted BEFORE it was posted. Is it even possible to read comments before they are posted? As offensive as I find a lot of the comments on forums I can only blame the people who make those comments, nobody else is responsible.[/p][/quote]I subscribe to two major papers (I mean pay a subscription charge), all comments are read before posting, and offensive ones are not screened. I know this because I commented on something Stewart Lee said, using the words he used, and it was not screened. The editors and journalists actively participate in the discussions, and it is far more rewarding and enjoyable than the majority of what you get here. All you would need is some young, rookie "speed reader" journalists to pre-monitor the forum - 6.00am to 2.00pm, and 2.00pm to 10.00pm. Let's face it : only half a dozen stories get more than 20 comments, others two or three, and the majority none at all. Once people got used to the idea that an offensive comment would not make it to the screen, they'd stop bothering and the proof reading would get easier. There are a lot of stories that really are not worth the time of day, so if existing journalists took turns on pre-moderating instead of wasting time on insignificant tales, then we might just have a forum that was a joy to use. Go read some of the forums of non-tabloid papers. You'll see the difference. Even ICQ root out the "baddies" as they arrive. No, to Kerin's shame (Murray, ultimately), this is the worst-run forum on the internet.[/p][/quote]You're not seriously comparing a two-bit local rag to a national newspaper, are you? Jesus, you really are delusional. What a loser. The only way you get any sense of worth out of life is from imagining yourself as some sheriff cleaning up the Echo comment section and chastising we naughty children. That's genuinely the most pathetic thing I've ever heard in my life. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 7

9:22am Sat 15 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............

....................

..
Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 5

11:13am Sat 15 Mar 14

southy says...

Not an act of poachers more like the act of trophy hunters and this deer being well known mean it could be any one from any where even from aboard.
Not an act of poachers more like the act of trophy hunters and this deer being well known mean it could be any one from any where even from aboard. southy
  • Score: 0

12:04pm Sat 15 Mar 14

charrlee says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............


....................


..
Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.
Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc.

You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive.

If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi
ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous.

As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely.

Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that.

In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users.

I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts !
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc. You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive. If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous. As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely. Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that. In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users. I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts ! charrlee
  • Score: -3

12:40pm Sat 15 Mar 14

freefinker says...

charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............



....................



..
Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.
Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc.

You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive.

If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi

ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous.

As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely.

Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that.

In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users.

I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts !
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc. You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive. If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous. As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely. Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that. In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users. I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts ![/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. freefinker
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Sat 15 Mar 14

charrlee says...

freefinker wrote:
charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............




....................




..
Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.
Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc.

You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive.

If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi


ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous.

As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely.

Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that.

In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users.

I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts !
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
Looks like threethinker was practising his impression of a house fly while reading my post. There was no need for you to trouble yourself with a reply, as my comment was more for Ratchet. Still, courtesy never really hurt anyone, so thank-you finky, thank-you. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, etc.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc. You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive. If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous. As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely. Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that. In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users. I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts ![/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]Looks like threethinker was practising his impression of a house fly while reading my post. There was no need for you to trouble yourself with a reply, as my comment was more for Ratchet. Still, courtesy never really hurt anyone, so thank-you finky, thank-you. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ, etc. charrlee
  • Score: -1

3:40pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Niel says...

southy wrote:
Not an act of poachers more like the act of trophy hunters and this deer being well known mean it could be any one from any where even from aboard.
Trophy hunters would take a 'boiler-house' shot, heart/lungs area, to ensure minimal risk of damaging the trophy rack. Head shots are usually used by those that want to keep the meat intact.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Not an act of poachers more like the act of trophy hunters and this deer being well known mean it could be any one from any where even from aboard.[/p][/quote]Trophy hunters would take a 'boiler-house' shot, heart/lungs area, to ensure minimal risk of damaging the trophy rack. Head shots are usually used by those that want to keep the meat intact. Niel
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Sun 16 Mar 14

gilbertratchet says...

charrlee wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Munchausen wrote:
A bit offtopic, but...

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about...............



....................



..
Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.
Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc.

You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive.

If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi

ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous.

As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely.

Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that.

In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users.

I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts !
Nobody cares, Billy.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Munchausen[/bold] wrote: A bit offtopic, but... Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."[/p][/quote]I vote Man should extinguish himself and let the animals get on with it. My name's Turkey, and I'm so looking forward to this Christmas I've so much about............... .................... ..[/p][/quote]Please feel free to lead by example. Be the change you want to see. Do it. Do it now.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, Mr Rachet ! Four retaliatory posts demonstrating your ill-tempered immaturity, all filled with speculative nonsense. Attacking me in an attempt to get the supportive attention here so sadly denied you by other readers is not fooling anyone. What a hypocrite you are accusing me of the very things of which you have been guilty, Georgem, froots, etc. You are quite right to make connections between me and the other characters, Billy, Jayne etc. But you can't know what you can't see. Again, it would help your case enormously if you could get the readership to believe I am some sort of "loner" stereotype. It is the expected conclusion at which one expects the unimaginative to arrive. If you gather all my posts together, over the last couple of weeks, you can see clearly that I have made many knowledge-and-experi ence-driven comments about the topics, often tinged with tongue-in-cheek humour. All you have done is to drop your usual brand of shallow, inconsequential prattling to dance about yelling "Billy's back ! Billy's back !" As I said to freefinker, even if that were true, based on some spurious assumption of yours that you have detected some sort of recognisable "house style", who really cares ? My comments are as valid as anyone else's, whether serious or humorous. As I have pointed out before, I admire what Billy The Kid and his friends attempted to do, but it was doomed to failure. And you have to understand, Gilbert, it was never intended to be more than a rough game, a bit of sparring, and not to have been taken as seriously as some chose to do. Eventually, they were victims of their own game, having played out their roles to intensely. Me? I'm easy-going, really. If you and freefinker had not started on at me, I wouldn't have said much to you. But you would keep on about Billy The Kid. Nobody cares - can't you two see that. In truth, Gilbert, I do not agree with anything you say, but I recognise your free spirit, and admire your cheerful, cheeky approach. I am asking you and freefinker to just argue the topics with me if you feel inclined, but stop making personal accusations and allegations as it upsets other forum users. I would welcome peace with you and freefinker, and hope you have a good weekend. However, D J Downfader deserves all he gets. He and Ginger are second only to Jayne in the Minus Votes charts ![/p][/quote]Nobody cares, Billy. gilbertratchet
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