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11:59am Monday 1st February 2010 in
A NIGHTCLUB has won permission to open later for Radio 1 DJ Judge Jules in the face of objections from police, who want its licence reviewed.
Police raised “serious concerns” about the running of the Bliss Clubrooms in Southampton, blaming bouncers for 14 of the 36 alleged assaults in or outside the nightspot. They fear more were not recorded.
In an official report to the city council, Sgt Ivan Marshman even went as far as accusing management of “covering up” an assault by doormen of a drunk, encouraging a punter to run off after another assault, and failing to call police after a “glassing” incident.
He said police had also received reports of bar staff watering down vodka and door staff failing to check the toilets when they were aware people may have been using them to take drugs.
The allegations were detailed in a dossier to councillors objecting to extended hours for Judge Jules to play at a Valentine’s ball on Saturday, February 13 – the day Southampton face Portsmouth in the FA Cup – and a party to celebrate Chinese New Year on February 14.
However, Sgt Marshman agreed to withdraw an accusation that there was a “disorderly, illegal ethos that runs deep within the club” and that it was “poorly run”.
Solicitor Jonathan Smith, for Bliss, said a contract with local firm Secridoor had been terminated and national player Bridgegate Security had brought in a new team of doormen.
Bridgegate operations director Shane Cooke told councillors all incidents would now be logged, adding: “I don’t have bouncers. I have customer care assistants.”
Mr Smith said the designated premises supervisor had been suspended and the doorman accused of the assault had been dismissed.
He said the number of assaults was a tiny percentage of the 106,000 clubbers that came through the doors last year, and that unsubstantiated allegations could have come from disgruntled staff or customers.
He added that fans wearing football shirts would not be allowed in and there had been no record of football matches resulting in increased violence at the club.
Mr Smith also promised councillors that glass bottles would be replaced with plastic ones.
Licensing panel chairman Brian Parnell said it was not “reasonable or proportionate” to refuse the temporary event licences.
But police are now calling for councillors to review the club’s licence for breaching its licensing objectives. It could result in its licence being revoked.
The Daily Echo revealed in December how only one city bar has had its licence reviewed in the past three years, while south coast neighbours Portsmouth had looked again at 11.
Bliss Clubrooms in Vincents Walk, on the site formerly occupied by Ocean & Collins and before that Chicago Rock, underwent a huge refurbishment ahead of its opening in September. The club declined to comment.
Comments(37)
G0Rf
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12:29pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Red&White Power
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12:37pm Mon 1 Feb 10
southampton_till_i_die09
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12:42pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Lone Ranger
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12:43pm Mon 1 Feb 10
DCM
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12:50pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Lone Ranger wrote:Absolutely agree with you. There have been a number of stories in the Echo recently about how the Council want to reduce drunkeness and trouble around Bedford Place, the appointment of a new night-time manager and mounted police, and yet when the Council get a chance to actually do something about it, even following police advice they refuse!
So the council get a chance to put there foot down and prevent an extended licence to a bar that according to reports is not very well run. They have the powers to revoke and reject licences why dont they instead of whinging and blaming national government. . Even the police have concerns. But no this council is all mouth and NO action. . The Council have enough powers available to them. Work with the Police and use them instead of the normal PR soundbites
Jammy Donut
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12:58pm Mon 1 Feb 10
zoom-in
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1:12pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Redback
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1:36pm Mon 1 Feb 10
door supervisor
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1:44pm Mon 1 Feb 10
door supervisor
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1:49pm Mon 1 Feb 10
jimbobbo
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1:50pm Mon 1 Feb 10
door supervisor wrote:Seriously?? This club does, and always has, been a host to most of Southampton's worst pikey clans.
Best team of doormen in town. No **** footing around or running away like most of the new wanna be doormen in town. Was the only club in town you really felt safe in. Bring back the good old days
door supervisor
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2:13pm Mon 1 Feb 10
southie'10
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2:50pm Mon 1 Feb 10
G0Rf wrote:I can't stand it when people are this narrow minded. Do you know the full story to this situation? Perhaps the doormen were trying to restrain this man because he was being violent against others? Maybe he started a fight with a woman? Would you ever stop and think that maybe they were doing their job and protecting others from getting hurt? I would love to see what you would do in their situation. Doormen get too much stick for their job. Police get weapons to protect themselves and restrain people... Doorman having nothing but their bare hands...and their job? To try and maintain order and protect the customers in a night club. It is not their fault that people are aggressive and start fights or don't know their limits. There is not enough praise for doormen, I thank them for making my nights safer!
The bouncers in there are all a bunch of useless idiots. I was driving my bus past there a few weeks ago and some drunk came running out in front of me, chased by 2 bouncers and then battered to the floor! the drunk didnt stand a chance take their badge away
soton1980
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3:01pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Redback
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3:02pm Mon 1 Feb 10
teh
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3:09pm Mon 1 Feb 10
southampton_till_i_dYep, I've had this, I can get in, but my two other mates can't and never have done.
ie09 wrote:
They have the worst bouncers ever. They let in a bunch of drunk women. Then a couple of men want to go in there, stone-cold sober, and get refused entry. Their excuse? 'No reason, just not tonight'.
Rubbish club anyways. Too small
southie'10
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3:11pm Mon 1 Feb 10
adclose
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3:24pm Mon 1 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2
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3:29pm Mon 1 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2
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3:29pm Mon 1 Feb 10
clausentum
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3:32pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Donald2000
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3:43pm Mon 1 Feb 10
sk119
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4:22pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Polygonia
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4:44pm Mon 1 Feb 10
DCM wrote:I do feel sorry for the police when they go to all that trouble and then the panel let the club get everything they want.
Lone Ranger wrote: So the council get a chance to put there foot down and prevent an extended licence to a bar that according to reports is not very well run. They have the powers to revoke and reject licences why dont they instead of whinging and blaming national government. . Even the police have concerns. But no this council is all mouth and NO action. . The Council have enough powers available to them. Work with the Police and use them instead of the normal PR soundbitesAbsolutely agree with you. There have been a number of stories in the Echo recently about how the Council want to reduce drunkeness and trouble around Bedford Place, the appointment of a new night-time manager and mounted police, and yet when the Council get a chance to actually do something about it, even following police advice they refuse! You have to wonder why the police bother at all if they're just going to be ignored.
jimbobbo
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6:32pm Mon 1 Feb 10
door supervisor wrote:I know where i'd rather be!
What Junk? They've been on the hit list for a long time. What about Aura or the red lion famous for being full of under age "football Boys" constantly getting shut early. Or all the coke heads in Orange Roms and Rhino. Take off the blinkers Jimbo
Nightaximan
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12:56am Tue 2 Feb 10
Nightime
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1:04am Tue 2 Feb 10
Nightaximan wrote:fair comment!!!
The problem with having all new doorman from outside the area, they dont know the local trouble makers... It wont be long before the word gets out, and all the ones that could not get in before because they were trouble will be having a field day in there soon.. good luck to the new doorman..
taximan05
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11:43am Tue 2 Feb 10
Steve Hudson
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1:20pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Donald2000
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1:30pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Polygonia wrote:Oh I think the council can get quite nasty about anything and everything, quite frankly. They seem to think that everything that anybody reports is suspicious and that they are the only arbiters of what is good and right in this city. If they had brains they would indeed be dangerous.
DCM wrote:I do feel sorry for the police when they go to all that trouble and then the panel let the club get everything they want. Residents wants Bedford Place made an Alcohol Disorder Zone, local citizens are awoken by drunks nightly every few minutes between 1-3.30 a.m. but our Council refuse. They can also get quite nasty with anyone who complains about the disgraceful situation.Lone Ranger wrote: So the council get a chance to put there foot down and prevent an extended licence to a bar that according to reports is not very well run. They have the powers to revoke and reject licences why dont they instead of whinging and blaming national government. . Even the police have concerns. But no this council is all mouth and NO action. . The Council have enough powers available to them. Work with the Police and use them instead of the normal PR soundbitesAbsolutely agree with you. There have been a number of stories in the Echo recently about how the Council want to reduce drunkeness and trouble around Bedford Place, the appointment of a new night-time manager and mounted police, and yet when the Council get a chance to actually do something about it, even following police advice they refuse! You have to wonder why the police bother at all if they're just going to be ignored.
davesbabe
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1:44pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Donald2000
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2:31pm Tue 2 Feb 10
davesbabe wrote:I dont know if enjoyment is the word; I dont quite know that I'd ever want to go in one of those places whereby I knew that there was a risk of a fight breaking out and that I would get in the firing line. After all I will be nearly 60 before too long; not a spring chicken by any means. I love to see people enjoying themselves but not by these means.
to be fair, i'm not a pikey!!, i'm a 31 year old mother of four lovely children and i go to bliss and went to ocean and collins before that, i admit there are a fair few fights in there but its because the youngsters all drink stupid amounts of alcohol then get lairy and start a punch up, what are the bouncers supposed to do? let them hurt people who are just there to have a bit of fun?. many a time the bouncers have stopped a fight that has broken out near me and saved me from harm. why should all these places be shut down just because a few ruin it for the majority of us that just like to have a few drinks and a dance?? also im sorry but you cant tell me there are no fights at oceana etc either because i saw 5 in one night there inside the place and a huge one outside where the police had to come and arrest 5 or 6 lads so its not just bliss that has lairy lads and lairy laddettes as customers!!
Steve Hudson
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2:58pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Donald2000
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3:20pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Steve Hudson wrote:Monastic orders are unlikely to contain the types of persons you describe. Well you did ask.......
I'm pretty sure all the doormen are not from out of town. The doorstaff do have a very difficult job and at time sthankless. I have worked in the industry for 25 years and have seen massive changes, on the whole now doorstaff are much more responsible than they used to be. There are throwbacks though who believe that you need to intimidate people to succeed. they will be weeded out though. Name me a proffession without some bad/rogue people?
Redback
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3:41pm Tue 2 Feb 10
Donald2000 wrote:You'd be surprised...
Steve Hudson wrote:Monastic orders are unlikely to contain the types of persons you describe. Well you did ask.......
I'm pretty sure all the doormen are not from out of town. The doorstaff do have a very difficult job and at time sthankless. I have worked in the industry for 25 years and have seen massive changes, on the whole now doorstaff are much more responsible than they used to be. There are throwbacks though who believe that you need to intimidate people to succeed. they will be weeded out though. Name me a proffession without some bad/rogue people?
Steve Hudson
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3:21pm Wed 3 Feb 10
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MrWoody83 says...
12:10pm Mon 1 Feb 10
Yet more facts wrong
The Judge Jules event is on Friday 12th Feb & not the day of the Saints v Pompey clash!