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4:40pm Saturday 13th February 2010 in Crime
By Clare Kennedy, Health Reporter
VIOLENCE flared up outside St Mary's stadium following Saints' 4:1 FA Cup defeat.
Police let both groups of fans leave St Mary's at the same time leading to a stand off between some home and opposition fans.
A group of Pompey fans and Saints fans taunted each other either side of a wire fence at the Freeborn Garage in Britannia Road, as police tried to seize control.
They could also be seen throwing bottles and coins at each other.
The windscreen of one of the cars parked in the garage's forecourt was smashed. Other cars were dented and had their rear windscreen wipers and wing mirrors ripped off.
On match days the forecourt is used for VIP parking.
Mounted police tried to push the Saints fans, who had headed for the garage after the game finished, away from the area.
Most of the Pompey fans travelling by train have now been escorted back to Southampton central railway station.
One eye witness said that while there was no obvious signs of trouble, the fans were less tightly contained by police compared to on the way to the game.
In total police made 11 arrests throughout the day, mostly for public order offences.
Comments(97)
costa gaz
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2:48pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Costa Baz
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2:54pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Don't agree we were outclassed.
and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(
pastybest
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2:55pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Linesman
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2:59pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2
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3:00pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Costa Baz wrote:Yes I agree with you, I think what I meant was we were outclassed after the third goal went in plus O'Hara and James were outstanding we seemed to lose confidence after that... but I'm no football expert by any means!! will no doubt get the full run down when eldest returns from the match soon! great to see so many great comments about Saints performance too here :) would have loved to have gone....only one season ticket in our house though, tough times lol!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Don't agree we were outclassed.
and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(
Had Waigo and Lallana taken their chances we would have been 2 or 3 goals clear.
The only area where Pompey were superior was in their goal taking ability and that was made easy for them when, at 2-1, we went with just 3 at the back and got caught on the break.
We may have lost the game but it was a moral victory for us, because they know that the gap between both teams is very little.
randomtask
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3:08pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Linesman wrote:And your point is?
As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!
expatmanila
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3:09pm Sat 13 Feb 10
len67
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3:12pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Costa Baz wrote:so we were out classed then
freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(Don't agree we were outclassed. Had Waigo and Lallana taken their chances we would have been 2 or 3 goals clear. The only area where Pompey were superior was in their goal taking ability and that was made easy for them when, at 2-1, we went with just 3 at the back and got caught on the break. We may have lost the game but it was a moral victory for us, because they know that the gap between both teams is very little.
expatmanila
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3:12pm Sat 13 Feb 10
randomtask
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3:13pm Sat 13 Feb 10
expatmanila wrote:Im sorry but Saints were no dis-grace. Regardless of pompeys current financial situation they are after all premier league players up against league 1. Saints went for it and to be fair ran out of steam towards the end. For the majority of the game they were on an even par, if not better, than pompey so to call them a disgrace was perhaps a little harsh?
Sorry guys, that last 20 minutes wasa disgrace, watched it in public, I honestly did no expect us to win but to be imbarrassed. No!
working.mummyof2
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3:14pm Sat 13 Feb 10
costa gaz
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3:15pm Sat 13 Feb 10
expatmanila
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3:16pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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3:17pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that.....
Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(
randomtask
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3:19pm Sat 13 Feb 10
expatmanila wrote:Are you sure you were not watching Chelsea v Cardiff? ;-)
Sorry Len look67 at the score line, you are not getting abused as we speak, gutted, does not matter anty more saints were not in control
jowett1987
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3:19pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2
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3:21pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that.....
Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(
expatmanila
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3:21pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Redback
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3:22pm Sat 13 Feb 10
costa gaz wrote:Mate, the 'less-desirable' elements of the saints' fanbase pride themselves as being an 'up and coming' firm. That is - having a good number of people looking for deliberate aggro against like minded members of the opposition.
It's about time these sub-human mutants were banned from Southampton, they were hell bent on trouble ever since the draw was made.
Years ago Chelsea fans were banned from the Dell for kicking off every year.
Do the same to the skates.
costa gaz
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3:25pm Sat 13 Feb 10
forest hump
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3:27pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Linesman
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3:39pm Sat 13 Feb 10
randomtask wrote:If you look at the first paragraph, it says the confrontation took place AFTER the match.
Linesman wrote: As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!And your point is?
Redback
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3:44pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Linesman wrote:Er... really? Okay.
randomtask wrote:If you look at the first paragraph, it says the confrontation took place AFTER the match.
Linesman wrote: As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!And your point is?
If you listen to the commentary that accompanies the story, the reporter is stating that it was taking place BEFORE the match!
The point I was making was that, if Pompey fans were still in the St Marys some little while after the match ended, singing the Pompey Chimes and Saints left the stadium more than ten minutes before, who confronted who?
OSPREYSAINT
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3:48pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1
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4:08pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Costa Baz
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4:13pm Sat 13 Feb 10
len67 wrote:no
Costa Baz wrote:so we were out classed thenfreemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(Don't agree we were outclassed. Had Waigo and Lallana taken their chances we would have been 2 or 3 goals clear. The only area where Pompey were superior was in their goal taking ability and that was made easy for them when, at 2-1, we went with just 3 at the back and got caught on the break. We may have lost the game but it was a moral victory for us, because they know that the gap between both teams is very little.
Condor Man
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4:16pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Portland Saint
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4:16pm Sat 13 Feb 10
randomtask wrote:i'm sorry expatmanila but you don't see the whole picture if you're not there. I'm proud to be a saint today as we were the better team and the better supporters (they only sing when their winning - really quiet after we scored) for 65mins. But in the end you have to accept their Premiership class showed and they had an extra yard of pace that caught us out when they counterattacked. Would you of rather we shut up shop at 2-1 to limit the score or go for it as we did. I'm proud of the team, proud to be in AP's R&W Army and proud of my fellow supporters.
expatmanila wrote: Sorry Len look67 at the score line, you are not getting abused as we speak, gutted, does not matter anty more saints were not in controlAre you sure you were not watching Chelsea v Cardiff? ;-)
freemantlegirl2
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4:17pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
colinpickford1
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4:20pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
working.mummyof2
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4:21pm Sat 13 Feb 10
costa gaz wrote:they had let a well know skate fan in the ground even tho he has a life time ban for p**sing on the seats. so they are banning people but not sticking to it.
It's about time these sub-human mutants were banned from Southampton, they were hell bent on trouble ever since the draw was made. Years ago Chelsea fans were banned from the Dell for kicking off every year. Do the same to the skates.
freemantlegirl2
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4:23pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
colinpickford1
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4:26pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:YAAWWNNNNN.
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
steve1968
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4:33pm Sat 13 Feb 10
jowett1987 wrote:Abandoning there own team ?, the reason I left early was I took 2 small children and wanted to make a SAFE and quick exit. And after watching all the idots causing trouble I am glad I did. I have a season ticket and go to lots of away games (including Oldham) so please dont tar everyone who leaves early with the same brush, as some have good reason..
Half the Saints fans there probably havn't been to a game in 5 years, brought a ticket for today and then abandoned there own team by walking out before the end of the match because it wasnt going there way. And thats Saints all over for you!!! Thats not a true supporter!
freemantlegirl2
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4:36pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1 wrote:Past your bedtime??? don't let us keep you up ...sweet dreams x
freemantlegirl2 wrote:YAAWWNNNNN.
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
colinpickford1
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4:38pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:A Lakota Legend
colinpickford1 wrote:Past your bedtime??? don't let us keep you up ...sweet dreams x
freemantlegirl2 wrote:YAAWWNNNNN.
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
Yes, Steve we often leave early for the same reasons... my son left early to avoid trouble but he still got caught up in it :( home safe and sound now though.
freemantlegirl2
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4:40pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1 wrote:Well I'm bad you must be the ugly ! :D
freemantlegirl2 wrote:A Lakota Legend
colinpickford1 wrote:Past your bedtime??? don't let us keep you up ...sweet dreams x
freemantlegirl2 wrote:YAAWWNNNNN.
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
Yes, Steve we often leave early for the same reasons... my son left early to avoid trouble but he still got caught up in it :( home safe and sound now though.
There was another world before this one. But the people of that world did not behave themselves. Displeased, the Creating Power set out to make a new world. He sang several songs to bring rain, which poured stronger with each song.
As he sang the fourth song, the earth split apart and water gushed up through the many cracks, causing a flood. By the time the rain stopped, all of the people and nearly all of the animals had drowned. Only Kangi the crow survived.
Kangi pleaded with the Creating Power to make him a new place to rest. So the Creating Power decided the time had come to make his new world. From his huge pipe bag, which contained all types of animals and birds, the Creating Power selected four animals known for their ability to remain under water for a long time. He sent each in turn to retrieve a lump of mud from beneath the flood waters. First the loon dove deep into the dark waters, but it was unable to reach the bottom. The otter, even with its strong webbed feet, also failed. Next, the beaver used its large flat tail to propel itself deep under the water, but it too brought nothing back. Finally, the Creating Power took the turtle from his pipe bag and urged it to bring back some mud.
Turtle stayed under the water for so long that everyone was sure it had drowned. Then, with a splash, the turtle broke the water's surface! Mud filled its feet and claws and the cracks between its upper and lower shells. Singing, the Creating Power shaped the mud in his hands and spread it on the water, where it was just big enough for himself and the crow. He then shook two long eagle wing feathers over the mud until earth spread wide and varied, overcoming the waters. Feeling sadness for the dry land, the Creating Power cried tears that became oceans, streams, and lakes. He named the new land Turtle Continent in honor of the turtle who provided the mud from which it was formed.
The Creating Power then took many animals and birds from his great pipe bag and spread them across the earth. From red, white, black, and yellow earth, he made men and women. The Creating Power gave the people his sacred pipe and told them to live by it. He warned them about the fate of the people who came before them. He promised all would be well if all living things learned to live in harmony. But the world would be destroyed again if they made it bad and ugly.
colinpickford1
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4:43pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:LOL
colinpickford1 wrote:Well I'm bad you must be the ugly ! :D
freemantlegirl2 wrote:A Lakota Legend
colinpickford1 wrote:Past your bedtime??? don't let us keep you up ...sweet dreams x
freemantlegirl2 wrote:YAAWWNNNNN.
colinpickford1 wrote:why don't you run along and try them then, personally I'm not interested in picking my nose but maybe you should line up with Simon Carr and start a column on it, I'm sure you'd be ever so popular!
freemantlegirl2 wrote:From looking at this site any that you have metioned would be a better bet.
colinpickford1 wrote:A life or scanning columns about a subject you hate...... a life or scanning columns about a subject you hate....... a life or picking your nose...hmmmm
A life or football...A life or football....A life or football?
Yes, Steve we often leave early for the same reasons... my son left early to avoid trouble but he still got caught up in it :( home safe and sound now though.
There was another world before this one. But the people of that world did not behave themselves. Displeased, the Creating Power set out to make a new world. He sang several songs to bring rain, which poured stronger with each song.
As he sang the fourth song, the earth split apart and water gushed up through the many cracks, causing a flood. By the time the rain stopped, all of the people and nearly all of the animals had drowned. Only Kangi the crow survived.
Kangi pleaded with the Creating Power to make him a new place to rest. So the Creating Power decided the time had come to make his new world. From his huge pipe bag, which contained all types of animals and birds, the Creating Power selected four animals known for their ability to remain under water for a long time. He sent each in turn to retrieve a lump of mud from beneath the flood waters. First the loon dove deep into the dark waters, but it was unable to reach the bottom. The otter, even with its strong webbed feet, also failed. Next, the beaver used its large flat tail to propel itself deep under the water, but it too brought nothing back. Finally, the Creating Power took the turtle from his pipe bag and urged it to bring back some mud.
Turtle stayed under the water for so long that everyone was sure it had drowned. Then, with a splash, the turtle broke the water's surface! Mud filled its feet and claws and the cracks between its upper and lower shells. Singing, the Creating Power shaped the mud in his hands and spread it on the water, where it was just big enough for himself and the crow. He then shook two long eagle wing feathers over the mud until earth spread wide and varied, overcoming the waters. Feeling sadness for the dry land, the Creating Power cried tears that became oceans, streams, and lakes. He named the new land Turtle Continent in honor of the turtle who provided the mud from which it was formed.
The Creating Power then took many animals and birds from his great pipe bag and spread them across the earth. From red, white, black, and yellow earth, he made men and women. The Creating Power gave the people his sacred pipe and told them to live by it. He warned them about the fate of the people who came before them. He promised all would be well if all living things learned to live in harmony. But the world would be destroyed again if they made it bad and ugly.
flower49
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4:55pm Sat 13 Feb 10
jowett1987 wrote:Yes, I agree, so many comments from people who have not been to a game this season, but every game they make comments on here. I always feel sorry for the players and also our great saviour who bought the club and saved us. Every time I see him I feel so proud and thankful we have such a great man in charge of our great club. We are in save hands, at last.
Half the Saints fans there probably havn't been to a game in 5 years, brought a ticket for today and then abandoned there own team by walking out before the end of the match because it wasnt going there way. And thats Saints all over for you!!! Thats not a true supporter!
jerseyian
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5:00pm Sat 13 Feb 10
costa gaz wrote:gaz its a 2 way thing ,so ban your fans aswell as ours ,both sets of supporters were to blame for the fighting
It's about time these sub-human mutants were banned from Southampton, they were hell bent on trouble ever since the draw was made. Years ago Chelsea fans were banned from the Dell for kicking off every year. Do the same to the skates.
flower49
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5:02pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
colinpickford1
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5:03pm Sat 13 Feb 10
flower49 wrote:God help us all. I thought It was bad enough that some people need to join a tribe (fans) to gain some sense of belonging. I guess it's that they have no identity of their own? But now it looks like it's becoming some kind of religion (another tribe). You only have to look at the behavior of some of these people to see the "them and us mentality". Monkey see, monkey do.
jowett1987 wrote:Yes, I agree, so many comments from people who have not been to a game this season, but every game they make comments on here. I always feel sorry for the players and also our great saviour who bought the club and saved us. Every time I see him I feel so proud and thankful we have such a great man in charge of our great club. We are in save hands, at last.
Half the Saints fans there probably havn't been to a game in 5 years, brought a ticket for today and then abandoned there own team by walking out before the end of the match because it wasnt going there way. And thats Saints all over for you!!! Thats not a true supporter!
freemantlegirl2
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5:06pm Sat 13 Feb 10
flower49 wrote:And I did offer but my son rightly said, you won't be able to get anywhere near mum and I'm nearly 20 and will be fine! Not picking (if you'll excuse the pun) arguments at all, i t's a bit of banter... if you don't like it you could always use your off button :)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
colinpickford1
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5:13pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Nothing like a good bit of banter is there. Especialy with footy types...........they bite quicker than pit bulls
flower49 wrote:And I did offer but my son rightly said, you won't be able to get anywhere near mum and I'm nearly 20 and will be fine! Not picking (if you'll excuse the pun) arguments at all, i t's a bit of banter... if you don't like it you could always use your off button :)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
damien thorn
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5:14pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:good lord ,texting his mum to say he,s scared ,at 20 years old ? young lads of 17 used to go over the top in the great war ,lordy,lordy.
flower49 wrote:And I did offer but my son rightly said, you won't be able to get anywhere near mum and I'm nearly 20 and will be fine! Not picking (if you'll excuse the pun) arguments at all, i t's a bit of banter... if you don't like it you could always use your off button :)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
freemantlegirl2
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5:17pm Sat 13 Feb 10
colinpickford1 wrote:I'm quite offended you've described me as a footy type Colin!! LOL!!! and yes, banter is fine.... I actually thought the whole exchange was quite amusing.... :D at least I do have a sense of humour and fun ;)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Nothing like a good bit of banter is there. Especialy with footy types...........they bite quicker than pit bulls
flower49 wrote:And I did offer but my son rightly said, you won't be able to get anywhere near mum and I'm nearly 20 and will be fine! Not picking (if you'll excuse the pun) arguments at all, i t's a bit of banter... if you don't like it you could always use your off button :)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
colinpickford1
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5:21pm Sat 13 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Gosh I'm blushing now. You sound like my kind of girl..........Should the Echo start an on-line dateing service?
colinpickford1 wrote:I'm quite offended you've described me as a footy type Colin!! LOL!!! and yes, banter is fine.... I actually thought the whole exchange was quite amusing.... :D at least I do have a sense of humour and fun ;)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Nothing like a good bit of banter is there. Especialy with footy types...........they bite quicker than pit bulls
flower49 wrote:And I did offer but my son rightly said, you won't be able to get anywhere near mum and I'm nearly 20 and will be fine! Not picking (if you'll excuse the pun) arguments at all, i t's a bit of banter... if you don't like it you could always use your off button :)
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Maybe if you did not spend so much time on here always picking an argument with everyone, then maybe you could have met him, Freemantle is not that far to the ground is it, I would be devastated that my son had text me to say he was worried and I was too busy on here.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:because innocent people get caught up with it that's why!! My son has just texted me to say he's really worried, it's all kicking off and says the police can't cope where he is and he's trying to get home in one piece!! ANYONE who causes trouble should hang their heads in shame... that has nothing to do with football !freemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(With some of the 'fans' coming from the bottom of the gene pool, I would let them beat nine bells out of each other......... and arrest any survivors. Cretins. Why should police bother separating them?
freemantlegirl2
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King Mush
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5:38pm Sat 13 Feb 10
len67
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5:43pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Costa Baz wrote:so we were not out classed then. so we won after all
len67 wrote:no
Costa Baz wrote:so we were out classed thenfreemantlegirl2 wrote: and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that..... Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(Don't agree we were outclassed. Had Waigo and Lallana taken their chances we would have been 2 or 3 goals clear. The only area where Pompey were superior was in their goal taking ability and that was made easy for them when, at 2-1, we went with just 3 at the back and got caught on the break. We may have lost the game but it was a moral victory for us, because they know that the gap between both teams is very little.
costa gaz
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Stupideditor
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7:04pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Dazzler79
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forest hump
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Linesman
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Redback wrote:So the ones involved were a minority from both sides, intent on trouble!
Linesman wrote:Er... really? Okay. 1) There was trouble before AND after the match. 2) The entire crowd don't move around together. Just because there were enough fans in the stadium to sing whatever, doesn't mean that groups hadn't left. Happy to help. :-)randomtask wrote:If you look at the first paragraph, it says the confrontation took place AFTER the match. If you listen to the commentary that accompanies the story, the reporter is stating that it was taking place BEFORE the match! The point I was making was that, if Pompey fans were still in the St Marys some little while after the match ended, singing the Pompey Chimes and Saints left the stadium more than ten minutes before, who confronted who?Linesman wrote: As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!And your point is?
Hello?!?!
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8:15pm Sat 13 Feb 10
randomtask wrote:shame the skates didnt start singing till after they scored a goal! call yourself supporters? more like glory hunters! we'll see them next season in the championship! unless its AFC Portsmouth by then!! Southampton by far were the better team for 70 mins at least and we certainly had the better fans! Southmapton till I die!
Linesman wrote:And your point is?
As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!
colinpickford1
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8:19pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Hello?!?! wrote:Should I hold my breath? "And by far the better team" How on earth do you work that out? On the beads hanging over your cot??
randomtask wrote:shame the skates didnt start singing till after they scored a goal! call yourself supporters? more like glory hunters! we'll see them next season in the championship! unless its AFC Portsmouth by then!! Southampton by far were the better team for 70 mins at least and we certainly had the better fans! Southmapton till I die!
Linesman wrote:And your point is?
As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!
Southampton boy
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8:54pm Sat 13 Feb 10
randomtask wrote:I agree saints give there best and there best was not good enough, we are still only a L1 team and they are a PREM team, no dis-grace what we can do now is look at the L1 AND TRY TO GET TO THE PLAY OFFS well done saints what ever is said you were great well done
expatmanila wrote: Sorry guys, that last 20 minutes wasa disgrace, watched it in public, I honestly did no expect us to win but to be imbarrassed. No!Im sorry but Saints were no dis-grace. Regardless of pompeys current financial situation they are after all premier league players up against league 1. Saints went for it and to be fair ran out of steam towards the end. For the majority of the game they were on an even par, if not better, than pompey so to call them a disgrace was perhaps a little harsh?
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pompeytim1
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colinpickford1
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9:12pm Sat 13 Feb 10
iamlouis23 wrote:It sounds like Portsmouth were lucky.......Strange the way the more people practice the luckier they get!
I don't think some of these so-called "fans" deserve a say, based on their comments! We played absolutely fantastically today and the score DEFINITELY does not match our performance. For 75-80 minutes, we were the best team on the pitch; we gave 110% effort, we pressed them, and we had plenty of chances. David James had to be Man of the Match (at least in the first half) for keeping Pompey still in it, as we had so many chances to make it a 3-0 or 4-0 result in the first haf alone. The only problem was that we were unable to take our chances, and they did. Whenever we had a set piece, they were able to counter from the cleared ball, and took their chances. Simple as. For people to call our performance a disgrace, it's disgusting! Statistically, we didn't deserve a result, but based on our performance, we AT LEAST deserved a draw! Remember, even though they are in financial troubles, they are a Premier League team.
Overall, I am a pleased, but slightly disappointed Saints fan - only because I feel our performance warranted a result!
If we play like that for the rest of the season, I feel we can make the playoffs, even if the odds are against us!
helltowatch
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9:14pm Sat 13 Feb 10
pompeytim1 wrote:Liar!
Seen several items on here saying that Pompey fans weren't vocal - disagree. That Saints outplayed us for 70 minutes - disagree. Your fans were all heading home at 2-1. There was noise from the fans either side of the Pompey fans but the rest were silent. Enjoyed a great derby match.
Hello?!?!
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9:45pm Sat 13 Feb 10
helltowatch wrote:did you watch the game?
pompeytim1 wrote:Liar!
Seen several items on here saying that Pompey fans weren't vocal - disagree. That Saints outplayed us for 70 minutes - disagree. Your fans were all heading home at 2-1. There was noise from the fans either side of the Pompey fans but the rest were silent. Enjoyed a great derby match.
Dorssaints
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9:54pm Sat 13 Feb 10
jowett1987 wrote:As a season ticket holder, I left 1 min before the end. Maybe I should have kept my 10 year old and 8 year old back so that we could be caught up in the fighting with the Pompey fans who were let out early. Maybe that would then make my kids 'true supporters'.
Half the Saints fans there probably havn't been to a game in 5 years, brought a ticket for today and then abandoned there own team by walking out before the end of the match because it wasnt going there way. And thats Saints all over for you!!! Thats not a true supporter!
Little P
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mooky9
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OSPREYSAINT
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Brite Spark
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Linesman wrote:If you had been at the game you would have realised that every time 4,000 Pompey fans chanted one line of 'Play up Pompey' ... 27,000 Saints fans retorted with 5 lines of 'Pay Up Pompey!!!', that was what you could hear ship mate.
As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!
sfcuvf
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Brite Spark
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Dazzler79 wrote:Certainly wasn't me!!
What bright spark let the skate fans be marched to the ground at 1215 ffs.
Throwing coins and bottles at us very good.
my girlfriend got hit by a glass bottle being smashed.
You would think they would keep the money though as they need it.
How thick can they be,oh i forgot they are inbreds with 6 fingers!!!
Brite Spark
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9:13am Sun 14 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Again, definitely not me.
and what bright spark let them out at the same time!!! honestly..... all that policing and then a basic error like that.....
Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(
Portland Saint
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9:56am Sun 14 Feb 10
iamlouis23 wrote:Couldn't agree more, great post. Sad that a few morons, who undoubtedly planned the aggro beforehand, gave the Echo the opportunity to sensationalise things. I walked through Palmerstone Park in my colours before the game as about 100 or so Skates were escorted by 6 bobbies by in front of us without a word, chant or abuse of any kind but that probably won't sell papers, Pround to be a Saint. COYR
I don't think some of these so-called "fans" deserve a say, based on their comments! We played absolutely fantastically today and the score DEFINITELY does not match our performance. For 75-80 minutes, we were the best team on the pitch; we gave 110% effort, we pressed them, and we had plenty of chances. David James had to be Man of the Match (at least in the first half) for keeping Pompey still in it, as we had so many chances to make it a 3-0 or 4-0 result in the first haf alone. The only problem was that we were unable to take our chances, and they did. Whenever we had a set piece, they were able to counter from the cleared ball, and took their chances. Simple as. For people to call our performance a disgrace, it's disgusting! Statistically, we didn't deserve a result, but based on our performance, we AT LEAST deserved a draw! Remember, even though they are in financial troubles, they are a Premier League team. Overall, I am a pleased, but slightly disappointed Saints fan - only because I feel our performance warranted a result! If we play like that for the rest of the season, I feel we can make the playoffs, even if the odds are against us!
Linesman
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10:02am Sun 14 Feb 10
Brite Spark wrote:I suppose that, while Avram Grant was giving his interview ten minutes after the final whistle, it was Saints fans singing 'Pay Up Pompey' in the background?
Linesman wrote: As I saw it on TV, many Saints fans had left, or were leaving, when the 4th goal went in, and when Avram Grant was being interviewed after the match, the Pompey Chimes could be heard coming from the stadium!If you had been at the game you would have realised that every time 4,000 Pompey fans chanted one line of 'Play up Pompey' ... 27,000 Saints fans retorted with 5 lines of 'Pay Up Pompey!!!', that was what you could hear ship mate.
Brite Spark
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My View from the Hill
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martinblue
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12:19pm Sun 14 Feb 10
jowett1987 wrote:Quite!
Half the Saints fans there probably havn't been to a game in 5 years, brought a ticket for today and then abandoned there own team by walking out before the end of the match because it wasnt going there way. And thats Saints all over for you!!! Thats not a true supporter!
Linesman
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12:46pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Brite Spark wrote:Sad that I call myself 'Linesman'?
Sad that you call yourself 'linesman' but don't even get a seat in the stadium, more of an armchair supporter obviously. :-)
Brite Spark
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1:02pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Linesman wrote:If you were a regular supporter instead of a fair weather - wannabe - groupie fan just when the big games come along, you would have been able to get a ticket.
Brite Spark wrote:Sad that I call myself 'Linesman'?
Sad that you call yourself 'linesman' but don't even get a seat in the stadium, more of an armchair supporter obviously. :-)
Do you think that everyone that wanted a ticket for the match was able to get one?
Sad that you call yourself 'Brite Spark' when it would appear that you are not very Bright with no Spark of intelligence!
mooky9
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1:29pm Sun 14 Feb 10
sfcuvf wrote:Yeah what a great thing to rejoice in... Pompy were second best in every fight you numpties had, not a good match or the prospect of Saints getting to the playoffs and Pompy going down but rejoice in the fact the "morons" had to have a fight and ruin it for every other decent fan out there. Crawl back under your stones and leave football to the fans.
Pompey have had a better mob than us for years, just be thankful we can hold our heads high in the knowledge the 657 crew are washed up and finished, they were second best in every flashpoint that occured, rejoice!
small town in poland
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2:28pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Linesman
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3:00pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Brite Spark wrote:As I have been to both St Marys and Fratton Park this month, from which club do you think that I would have had a better chance of getting a ticket?
Linesman wrote:If you were a regular supporter instead of a fair weather - wannabe - groupie fan just when the big games come along, you would have been able to get a ticket. SW less-talk ............. take note!Brite Spark wrote: Sad that you call yourself 'linesman' but don't even get a seat in the stadium, more of an armchair supporter obviously. :-)Sad that I call myself 'Linesman'? Do you think that everyone that wanted a ticket for the match was able to get one? Sad that you call yourself 'Brite Spark' when it would appear that you are not very Bright with no Spark of intelligence!
Brite Spark
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3:20pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Redhat
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3:30pm Sun 14 Feb 10
small town in poland wrote:i think we will be having the last laugh,,, dont you......IDIOT
the fact of the matter is that the scummers lost and you are fast becoming a small town in poland, let alone a small town in hampshire
Thomas Upton
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4:22pm Sun 14 Feb 10
pompeyscorpion
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Tirau Dan
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7:34pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Little P wrote:Good on You Both too.
My sister and I were at the match, shes 46 I am 47, we have supported the SAINTS since we were one and two. We shouted and screamed for the SAINTS to win, but we would not have caused any trouble. To be honest I didn't see any trouble. Is it another reason for the media to paint every football fan as being violent. GOOD GAME, SHAME WE LOST. COME ON YOU REDS. AND I LOVE RICKY LAMBERT. (although I am old enough to be his mother)
pompeyscorpion
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7:46pm Sun 14 Feb 10
sfcuvf
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8:11pm Sun 14 Feb 10
mooky9 wrote:It's because of gutless people like you that the Skates think we're a pushover to begin with.
sfcuvf wrote: Pompey have had a better mob than us for years, just be thankful we can hold our heads high in the knowledge the 657 crew are washed up and finished, they were second best in every flashpoint that occured, rejoice!Yeah what a great thing to rejoice in... Pompy were second best in every fight you numpties had, not a good match or the prospect of Saints getting to the playoffs and Pompy going down but rejoice in the fact the "morons" had to have a fight and ruin it for every other decent fan out there. Crawl back under your stones and leave football to the fans.
Denzil
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9:14pm Sun 14 Feb 10
pompeyscorpion wrote:Shut up pikey, that's if you've got a club to support. Red army.
Soft goals at the end. A bit like the soft butter that our attack cut so easily through with the precision and accuracy of a surgeon`s knife. Bring on the Blue Noses. Who knows we might make another Wembley visit in the semis of a proper cup competition.
pompeyscorpion
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10:45pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Denzil wrote:Oh dear ! Touched a raw nerve have I. There was only one Red Army and will only ever be one Red Army . As you are so ill-educated I would suggest that you read about the Eastern Front during the second World War and the heroics of the real Red Army in defending the city of Stalingrad.
pompeyscorpion wrote: Soft goals at the end. A bit like the soft butter that our attack cut so easily through with the precision and accuracy of a surgeon`s knife. Bring on the Blue Noses. Who knows we might make another Wembley visit in the semis of a proper cup competition.Shut up pikey, that's if you've got a club to support. Red army.
Linesman
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11:23pm Sun 14 Feb 10
Brite Spark wrote:So you bet that last season I was a Havant and Waterlooville fan!
You can't support two teams, ie have one in reserve for when your first choice team is not doing so well. I bet last season you were a Havant and Waterlooville fan, this season Southampton, next season Man City? It's not bigotry to support one team you buffoon.
davisdale14
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1:14am Mon 15 Feb 10
Redback
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8:55am Mon 15 Feb 10
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It was very much a 'co-ordinated' effort. Organised hooliganism is seeing a dramatic rise recently.
It looked as if there was a co-ordinated plan by "morons" from both camps to get involved in some "action", all decent fans from both sides deplore this behaviour and just hope those caught and found guilty should be given life bans from attending any competitive sport, as they are incapable of behaving in a decent manner, plus plenty of unpaid community work to make them think twice about being so stupid.
small town in poland
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1:16pm Mon 15 Feb 10
sfcuvf wrote:sfcuvf
mooky9 wrote:It's because of gutless people like you that the Skates think we're a pushover to begin with.sfcuvf wrote: Pompey have had a better mob than us for years, just be thankful we can hold our heads high in the knowledge the 657 crew are washed up and finished, they were second best in every flashpoint that occured, rejoice!Yeah what a great thing to rejoice in... Pompy were second best in every fight you numpties had, not a good match or the prospect of Saints getting to the playoffs and Pompy going down but rejoice in the fact the "morons" had to have a fight and ruin it for every other decent fan out there. Crawl back under your stones and leave football to the fans.
mooky9
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4:09pm Mon 15 Feb 10
small town in poland wrote:Gutless... I'm not the ones who had to hide behind a Police line to throw things at passers by who weren't even the Pompy "fans" down for a fight. I'm not the ones who threw a brick at a 60 year old Saints fan and hit him in the head - quality fan you are. You had to wait unti the real firm, the 657 crew were a bit older as you couldn't face them in their prime and you till have to hide behind Plod when you try it on... And you think your tough!?!?! Please!
sfcuvf wrote:sfcuvf respect to scummerds this time you had a very strong and game mob on saturday, but i bet nearly 90% of those up for it were dirty polish scum not scum fans who like a tear up. lets hope we can all meet up properly one day and have it off properly.mooky9 wrote:It's because of gutless people like you that the Skates think we're a pushover to begin with.sfcuvf wrote: Pompey have had a better mob than us for years, just be thankful we can hold our heads high in the knowledge the 657 crew are washed up and finished, they were second best in every flashpoint that occured, rejoice!Yeah what a great thing to rejoice in... Pompy were second best in every fight you numpties had, not a good match or the prospect of Saints getting to the playoffs and Pompy going down but rejoice in the fact the "morons" had to have a fight and ruin it for every other decent fan out there. Crawl back under your stones and leave football to the fans.
Redback
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7:41pm Mon 15 Feb 10
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freemantlegirl2 says...
2:45pm Sat 13 Feb 10
Bad Luck Saints :( played really well first half, great come back goal but we were outclassed, Pompey felt Jamie O'Hara's presence back and well deserved man of the match. Very exciting game, shame we didn't get the result we wanted :(