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    Goldenwight wrote:
    jazzi wrote:
    Goldenwight wrote: Someone else filled in the form and she didn't read it?? Yeah, makes perfect sense. I myself frequently sign documents I haven't read, particularly when there is money involved and especially so when I may incur financial penalties, and am always obliging those lovely Nigerian Bankers who keep emailing me by providing my bank details to them. Presumably the same un-named third party intercepted all of the HB cheques sent to her and cashed them too?
    Cashed cheques ?? What era are you from!! The lady in question admitted her guilt, so why even waste tax payers money and take her to court. Get off your soap box Goldenwight, this story is not about you. Did she steal hundreds of thousands and live beyond her means, ermmm no !! Looks like she will repay every single penny she was overpaid. I think the amount she pays back each time should be less. If in receipt of benefits surely this puts her below the poverty line. The legal/benefits systems just stink. Think of the amount of man hours and legal costs and stress this has caused. Surely if someone admits guilt just set up a payment plan an stop bloody wasting more money than the claims worth to prosecute.
    Firstly, HB is still paid by cheque in many cases.

    Whilst it is true that she admitted her guilt, the same could be said of many murderers. Would you be happy if none of them were tried either?

    Did she steal hundreds of thousands? No, but neither did the gang who stole £100 from the old granny in the High Street just before Christmas. Presumably you believe they should have walked free also?

    'She will repay every penny she was overpaid.' Firstly she wasn't overpaid, she fraudulently claimed benefits to which she was not entitled- the original story gives far more detail here. Secondly, you are quite correct- the payments will come from benefits. In other words, she won't actually be paying anything- I will, as a taxpayer, be paying on her behalf.

    As to man hours legal costs and stress, I quite agree- had she been honest and law abiding in the first place this would have been avoided.

    Payment plans? The first case I took in Court was Jamshid Hashemi, a multi-million pound fraud. Would you have been happy for him to pay this off at £10 a week? No, of course you wouldn't, so what is the difference between the two cases?
    Only you could compare benefit fraud with murder! do you actually read back what you put?

    I agree with Jazzi, in THIS instance the outlay of Court etc is not reflective of immediate admission of guilt. This is hardly the stuff of the huge frauds that you see on TV, she will pay with more than money, she now has a criminal record and humilation. What more do you want Goldenwright blood?!

    It IS possible for other people to complete benefits forms on your behalf, these include Advisors in Agencies etc, but obviously they only write what you tell them. Not all people are whizzes at forms, I see a lot of people who find them very confusing and complicated. I'm not saying this was the case here as I don't know but there should be some leeway for people who plead 'guilty' straight away and offer to repay straight away. As AlexSoton says these sorts of cases will increase as people struggle (fraud isn't only the domain of the deceitful it's also committed by the desperate)."
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Former pub landlady paying back nearly £4,000 she falsely claimed

Sharon Ellis.

Sharon Ellis.

First published in Crime

FORMER pub landlady Sharon Ellis is now paying back the nearly £4,000 of public money she falsely claimed.

As previously reported, for five months last year Ellis claimed £3,474 in housing benefit and £451 in council tax benefits, despite having a house which was rented out.

Ellis, of Lupin Road, Bassett, Southampton, pleaded guilty at the first opportunity to one charge of benefit fraud.

The court heard how Ellis, who before the fraud had no previous convictions, said someone else had filled in the form and she had not read it before signing it.

The 41-year-old is now struggling financially and has depression, but she has repaid £356 so far and will continue doing so at the rate of £20 a fortnight out of her legitimately claimed benefits. Magistrates fined her £75, and ordered she pay £100 in costs plus a £15 victim surcharge.

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