'Voices in head' told jailed man to murder prison officer, court told

Daily Echo: Jailed man attempted to kill prison officer Jailed man attempted to kill prison officer

A Southampton man is facing life in prison after attempting to murder a prison officer.

Samuel Hall admitted that he had “fashioned” a knife to stab a prison officer at Rochester young offenders’ institute, in Kent, after voices in his head told him to do it.

The 20-year-old, of International Way, Weston, has been warned that the “likely sentence is life imprisonment”, which would mean decades behind bars for Hall.

Prosecutor Edmund Burgess told Maidstone Crown Court that Hall had admitted that he fully intended to kill the prison officer and had planned the attack.

“He fashioned a knife for that precise purpose and then met with the prison officer,” said Mr Burgess.

He added: “He says his desire to kill the victim was partly driven by hearing a voice in his head, telling him to do it.”

But he said Hall thought the voices came from the prison officer and that by silencing him he would “silence the voices”.

It comes less than three years after Hall was jailed for holding a knife to a ten-year-old girl’s throat on a Southampton bus to force her sister to hand over her handbag.

He had been sitting behind the young girls, who had boarded the Shirley-bound bus near Central railway station, when he threatened them with the blade, demanding £20.

The pair, from Zimbabwe, began shouting, in the hope of attracting attention and Hall got off the bus in Shirley.

He was sentenced to three years at Southampton Crown Court in August 2009.

Hall must now wait to find out his fate after Judge Jeremy Carey insisted he wanted psychiatric and pre-sentence reports before deciding on the sentence, despite Hall’s counsel urging the judge to pass sentence immediately.

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Defence barrister Mark Dacey told the judge that Hall had already spent a lengthy time “in custody and various institutions”

and that he had made it clear he would not co-operate with those compiling reports on him.

Judge Carey said that given the circumstances Hall might consider that the courts should have reports on him but he added that he could not force him to co-operate with those drawing up the reports.

He added: “I urge you for your own sake and for obvious reasons to co-operate with psychiatrists.

They will not be against you. It is up to you in the end.”

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3:59pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Stillness says...

Dear Judge. The man is a psychopath.
Yours sincerely.
A Nother. (Psychiatrist)
Dear Judge. The man is a psychopath. Yours sincerely. A Nother. (Psychiatrist) Stillness

4:35pm Tue 26 Jun 12

SOLENTDRIFTER says...

REPORTER MELANIE ADAMS DESCRIBES THIS SCUMBAG AS A MAN - SHE WOULD MORE SUITED TO WORKING ON A TILL AT SAINSBURYS - THATS IF THEY WOULD HAVE HER....
REPORTER MELANIE ADAMS DESCRIBES THIS SCUMBAG AS A MAN - SHE WOULD MORE SUITED TO WORKING ON A TILL AT SAINSBURYS - THATS IF THEY WOULD HAVE HER.... SOLENTDRIFTER

4:37pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Goldenwight says...

Another little toerag trying to get sentenced to psychiatric treatment rather than prison.

I wonder whether the girls he attacked on the bus put voices into his head too?
Another little toerag trying to get sentenced to psychiatric treatment rather than prison. I wonder whether the girls he attacked on the bus put voices into his head too? Goldenwight

5:16pm Tue 26 Jun 12

roofspace says...

I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets. roofspace

5:20pm Tue 26 Jun 12

roofspace says...

Correction - should read "There used to be..."
Correction - should read "There used to be..." roofspace

5:26pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Stillness says...

roofspace wrote:
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.[/p][/quote]Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone? Stillness

6:10pm Tue 26 Jun 12

bigfella777 says...

He's either ill or he's not,I dont see how people can do an evaluationfrom a news story,if he is ill he needs the right sort of treatment.
He's either ill or he's not,I dont see how people can do an evaluationfrom a news story,if he is ill he needs the right sort of treatment. bigfella777

6:17pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Stillness says...

bigfella777 wrote:
He's either ill or he's not,I dont see how people can do an evaluationfrom a news story,if he is ill he needs the right sort of treatment.
Anyone who is capable of trying to kill someone is surely ill. What do you suggest?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: He's either ill or he's not,I dont see how people can do an evaluationfrom a news story,if he is ill he needs the right sort of treatment.[/p][/quote]Anyone who is capable of trying to kill someone is surely ill. What do you suggest? Stillness

6:27pm Tue 26 Jun 12

roofspace says...

Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?
"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.[/p][/quote]Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?[/p][/quote]"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open) roofspace

6:45pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Stillness says...

roofspace wrote:
Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?
"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)
I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo?
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.[/p][/quote]Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?[/p][/quote]"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)[/p][/quote]I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo? Stillness

7:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12

roofspace says...

Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?
"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)
I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo?
You are talking about voices in peoples head and claiming you can see logic - what does it look like? or won't the voices tell you........snigger.
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.[/p][/quote]Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?[/p][/quote]"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)[/p][/quote]I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo?[/p][/quote]You are talking about voices in peoples head and claiming you can see logic - what does it look like? or won't the voices tell you........snigger. roofspace

7:47pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Stillness says...

roofspace wrote:
Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Stillness wrote:
roofspace wrote:
I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount.
All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.
Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?
"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)
I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo?
You are talking about voices in peoples head and claiming you can see logic - what does it look like? or won't the voices tell you........snigger.
Some would call it their conscience. You? Probably "The void".
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: I can only assume that all the vitriol is coming from the younger generation who are attacking a symptom of our society and not the cause. 40 years ago he would not have been subject to the misnomer of "Care in the Community". Under right wing "Caring Conservatives" led by "Milk Snatcher Thatcher" and her sycophants decided to close psychiatric hospitals and sell of the land and buildings at knock down prices to the 1% for up-market property development. There used a large one in Basingstoke (Park Prewitt). Cold East (Park Gate) and of course Thatchbury Mount. All the inmates were tossed onto the streets, but of course that doesn't matter to them as they made a killing in the market whilst all we got was killing in our streets.[/p][/quote]Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". So you are falling for the voice in the head bit are you? We all have a voice in the head, probably more than one and we can all choose the one we want to listen to. Why on earth do you want to make a political issue out of this story? I think you will find that thugs existed a long time before Thatcher came to power. Are you a southy clone?[/p][/quote]"Gee thanks, 54 and I'm still in "the young generation". " You obviously are not in the young generation but part of the "Caring Tory Sychophant" generation and would be in Park Prewitt or Coldeast being cared for. (If it was still open)[/p][/quote]I get it. southy has got a new user name. I can see the logic behind choosing the name roofspace as you obviously have plenty of empty space up top. Do your voices echo?[/p][/quote]You are talking about voices in peoples head and claiming you can see logic - what does it look like? or won't the voices tell you........snigger.[/p][/quote]Some would call it their conscience. You? Probably "The void". Stillness

7:58pm Tue 26 Jun 12

Inform Al says...

Wonder how many joints he smoked before he began to hear voices. Might as well put him down, he'll never get better.
Wonder how many joints he smoked before he began to hear voices. Might as well put him down, he'll never get better. Inform Al

10:42pm Tue 26 Jun 12

sabre2th1 says...

This is the thing that annoys me. People get 3 years for blinding months old babies and this guy can get life, regardless of previous crime, because he threatened someone of authority. **** this ****
This is the thing that annoys me. People get 3 years for blinding months old babies and this guy can get life, regardless of previous crime, because he threatened someone of authority. **** this **** sabre2th1

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