Police set up ring of steel around Southampton to catch drug dealers

City in lockdown as police launch major crackdown on drug dealers City in lockdown as police launch major crackdown on drug dealers

Southampton was on lockdown yesterday as a mammoth police operation was carried out to disrupt the supply of Class A drugs in the city.

Around 150 officers were involved in the “ring of steel” operation which saw all major routes into the city manned by both visible and undercover teams.

The day of action was the biggest so far under the Daily Echo -backed Operation Fortress which aims to prevent dealers, described as the “A-list”, from moving in to ply their trade.

Routes targeted included The Avenue, Thomas Lewis Way, Millbrook Road West, Bursledon Road and Portsmouth Road while there was also police activity in pockets of the city centre.

Police also had a heavy presence at the National Express coach station to intercept potential suspects arriving by bus while British Transport Police had teams on the platforms of Southampton Central and Airport Parkway stations to apprehend anyone suspicious.

Last night police chiefs leading the operation revealed:

  • Six people were arrested in connection with drugs supply, possession and money laundering offences.
  • Nine vehicles were seized for various offences.
  • 34 people were detained and searched for drugs.
  • Two houses were being searched for evidence.
  • Drugs estimated to be worth thousands of pounds on the streets were recovered.
  • 45 vehicles were stopped as part of routine checks around Southampton.

The giant suboperation, codenamed Alcatraz, had been weeks in the making and saw specialist firearms and force support officers drafted in to assist.

UK Border Agency officials also took part as well as a raft of local safer neighbourhoods officers, police community support officers and council staff supporting the operation.

The Daily Echo joined a patrol on the eastern side of Southampton where hundreds of drivers were having their license plates unknowingly checked via sophisticated software used in unmarked police vehicles.

Aside from looking for drug-related activity, there were also routine policing checks which resulted in one man having his BMW seized after inquiries found he was driving illegally without insurance.

Operation Fortress was launched earlier this year in response to the rising number of violent crimes, including a handful of shootings and many nearfatal stabbings, which are known to be connected to drugs.

Last night police chiefs said they had achieved significant results including arrests, searches and drug seizures.

Supt Scott Chilton told the Daily Echo : “This was the largest operation to date, targeting those involved in the supply of Class A drugs. The aim was to disrupt them and I think we achieved that.

“The police are determined to work with the public to make Southampton a hostile place to supply drugs.

"Operation Fortress is going to continue and there will be nowhere to hide for those intent on bringing misery to the community.”

Comments(102)

saint61 says...
8:00am Thu 27 Sep 12

Great effort - true policing protecting my city. thank you !

arthur dalyrimple says...
8:02am Thu 27 Sep 12

bravo ,bang up the evil ,greedy mongrels.

Over the Edge says...
8:31am Thu 27 Sep 12

Excellent achievement by the police. Cheers lads and lasses.

ottostrasser says...
8:40am Thu 27 Sep 12

Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.

hulla baloo says...
8:51am Thu 27 Sep 12

ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
So you take drugs then?

wossit says...
8:57am Thu 27 Sep 12

ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs. Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Are you mad, how do u think most of them fuel thier habit ?

sotonwinch09 says...
9:07am Thu 27 Sep 12

Well done Hampshire Police!

originalsfc says...
9:26am Thu 27 Sep 12

Yet the big boys at the top live in ocean village, chilworth, bursledon and chandlers ford...............n
ot millbrook nor travelling by coach or train.

More S,T,U list than A.

ToastyTea says...
9:28am Thu 27 Sep 12

That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.

Georgem says...
9:30am Thu 27 Sep 12

wossit wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs. Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Are you mad, how do u think most of them fuel thier habit ?
Oh, please enlighten us as to how "most of them" fuel their habit.

sarfhamton says...
9:34am Thu 27 Sep 12

I am sorry but i doubt very much that many people will go to prison after this operation and those that do will be at the bottom rung of the operation.

Drink is the biggest curse in our city not durgs.

Raxx says...
9:38am Thu 27 Sep 12

ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.

sotonwinch09 says...
9:41am Thu 27 Sep 12

sarfhamton wrote:
I am sorry but i doubt very much that many people will go to prison after this operation and those that do will be at the bottom rung of the operation.

Drink is the biggest curse in our city not durgs.
Why are you sorry?

Shoong says...
9:59am Thu 27 Sep 12

The War on Drugs is over 30 years old, I think it's time we pulled out.

Merry94 says...
10:19am Thu 27 Sep 12

Waste of time, police could be catching rapists and murderers but instead looking for weed. British police are rubbish.

southy says...
10:27am Thu 27 Sep 12

ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.

sarfhamton says...
10:33am Thu 27 Sep 12

sotonwinch09 wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I am sorry but i doubt very much that many people will go to prison after this operation and those that do will be at the bottom rung of the operation.

Drink is the biggest curse in our city not durgs.
Why are you sorry?
Just a figure of speech, I am not admitting any guilt in relation to class A drugs offences.

southy says...
10:39am Thu 27 Sep 12

Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.

Shoong says...
10:47am Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
Hemp contains lower amounts of THC so that wouldn't work, those used to smoking cannabis with a higher THC content would just go back to the dealers with the proper herb, I'm not 100% on this but I've never heard of anyone smoking hemp.

It's real and beneficial uses are as a material to be used for fibre, building material, plastic and composite materials, hemp paper, rope and even bio fuel.

So, no, that wouldn't work.

There is no market for hemp as a recreational drug.

Georgem says...
11:01am Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
People are not going to stop shooting up smack because they're allowed to grow weed at home. Be realistic.

Shoong says...
11:05am Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
Yes, because we are all growing hemp at home the multi million perhaps multi billion heroin industry will just vanish.

I'd stay away from this one, you clearly don't know jack about this one.

george h says...
11:30am Thu 27 Sep 12

hulla baloo wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
So you take drugs then?
Having difficulty with comprehension?

You can get help for that y'know.

BTW. before you slag me off too, - I've never taken drugs either.

Raxx says...
11:57am Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D

Shoong says...
11:59am Thu 27 Sep 12

Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
I think if you read all of Peters comments on this story it goes a long way to revealing his mentality.

freefinker says...
12:12pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
I think if you read all of Peters comments on this story it goes a long way to revealing his mentality.
.. or, indeed, any of his comments on any story.

Agreed Raxx, when I 'read-back' through the comments just now I also had a large chuckle over "blood starts to dehydrate".

Seems his ignorance knows no bounds.

Georgem says...
12:26pm Thu 27 Sep 12

freefinker wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
I think if you read all of Peters comments on this story it goes a long way to revealing his mentality.
.. or, indeed, any of his comments on any story.

Agreed Raxx, when I 'read-back' through the comments just now I also had a large chuckle over "blood starts to dehydrate".

Seems his ignorance knows no bounds.
Prediction: He will defend this position by pointing out that blood contains water. One of his favourite tricks. There's a shared property between to subjects in his argument, therefore all properties must be shared in every instance.

Compare: Marxism is named after Karl Marx, ergo anybody who has ever written a document has one named after them.

hulla baloo says...
2:45pm Thu 27 Sep 12

george h wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
So you take drugs then?
Having difficulty with comprehension?

You can get help for that y'know.

BTW. before you slag me off too, - I've never taken drugs either.
Nothing wrong with my comprehension. Reading your original comment it seems you are in favour of drugs, and you only denied using drink and cigarettes,

BillyTheKid says...
3:31pm Thu 27 Sep 12

sarfhamton wrote:
I am sorry but i doubt very much that many people will go to prison after this operation and those that do will be at the bottom rung of the operation.

Drink is the biggest curse in our city not durgs.
Don't you mean "dirnk" ?

BillyTheKid says...
4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12

What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.

southy says...
4:25pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
Hemp contains lower amounts of THC so that wouldn't work, those used to smoking cannabis with a higher THC content would just go back to the dealers with the proper herb, I'm not 100% on this but I've never heard of anyone smoking hemp.

It's real and beneficial uses are as a material to be used for fibre, building material, plastic and composite materials, hemp paper, rope and even bio fuel.

So, no, that wouldn't work.

There is no market for hemp as a recreational drug.
Hummm Hemp is cannabis they are one in the same plant. research and you will find the 1920's oil industary false propaganda films about hemp, where they bought out government around the world to stop countrys producing hemp because they need a market for there nylon in the form of ropes, its the flower buds of the female plant that you smoke, but you can find THC on the leaves and stems.

southy says...
4:28pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
People are not going to stop shooting up smack because they're allowed to grow weed at home. Be realistic.
You be more realistic, if you want to kill some thing off then you make it legal, and making hemp legal would just do that, people would grow there own they would decrease in numbers that would use smack.

southy says...
4:30pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
Yes, because we are all growing hemp at home the multi million perhaps multi billion heroin industry will just vanish.

I'd stay away from this one, you clearly don't know jack about this one.
You know very little you have shown that all ready by Hemp is not Cannbis, news for you they are one in the same plant.

southy says...
4:32pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
Yes blood can dehyrate thats how Alcohol damages brain cells, is by dehydration of the blood, and how it damages other parts of the body like your liver or kidneys.

Georgem says...
4:36pm Thu 27 Sep 12

And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.

Georgem says...
4:38pm Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Clearly a publicity stunt. And secondly legalise all drugs.The criminalisation of drugs causes most of the problems.Even some top Police are now in favour of this phoney war against drugs.
Before anyone says anything I dont even drink(ever) or smoke.
Quite. The drugs trade is worth billions, all of which currently goes into the pockets of gangsters. Legalise it, Regulate it, Tax it.
I would party aggree on legalising one drug and that would be Hemp the safest one, its even a safer drug than alcohol. The drug alcohol is the biggest drug killer in the UK, it has the biggest burden on the NHS, its an agressor drug.
What more than likely to happen if you Legalise and allow people to grow there own hemp, the other drugs would more likely disapear over period of time.
People are not going to stop shooting up smack because they're allowed to grow weed at home. Be realistic.
You be more realistic, if you want to kill some thing off then you make it legal, and making hemp legal would just do that, people would grow there own they would decrease in numbers that would use smack.
Huh? Sorry, I honestly can't work out what you're saying here southy. You know I'm not one to make fun of your linguistic quirks, I'm genuinely unable to work out what you're on about here!

Georgem says...
4:43pm Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
Yes blood can dehyrate thats how Alcohol damages brain cells, is by dehydration of the blood, and how it damages other parts of the body like your liver or kidneys.
Alcohol doesn't damage brain cells. That's been scientifically proven. What CAN happen, to heavy drinkers, is Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, which is due to a lack of thiamine. That doesn't actually damage brain cells, but it can damage certain neurones, albeit not beyond repair.

Nothing to do with dehydration, though. Of the blood - whatever that means - or otherwise.

Shoong says...
4:44pm Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
Yes blood can dehyrate thats how Alcohol damages brain cells, is by dehydration of the blood, and how it damages other parts of the body like your liver or kidneys.
Peter - Stop now before you make a complete donkey of yourself again.

Trying to help here...

Georgem says...
4:53pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid said:

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you.


No he isn't. Quite the opposite.

We're disagreeing with his made up biological facts about "blood dehydration". I guess we shouldn't bother disagreeing with anyone at all, ever, for fear some white knight is going to stride in and tell us all off.

No, not happening. Get used to it.

BillyTheKid says...
5:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.

Georgem says...
5:12pm Thu 27 Sep 12

And....the thread is all about Billy again.

Go away, you boring troll.

Shoong says...
5:16pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.

kingnotail says...
5:19pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Good luck, as I've never seen somewhere so awash with class A drugs than Southampton.

cantthinkofone says...
5:51pm Thu 27 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
That drugs live programe last night on channel 4 showed that drugs are good for you (Ecstasy anyway), so the police should just let people get on with it, it's their choice if they want to get cained.
Have they finished with research investigating and tests on Ecstasy now. I knew they was doing one but not seen the results of it, I know there is one known problem with Ecstasy and that is because of the way people act while under the effects of Ecstasy can make a person dehydrate, which can become dangerous should the blood start to dehydrate, its a big problem in Alcohol blood dehydrating and killing cells beyond of being able to be repaired.
"Blood starts to dehydrate"?

My word. It's another classic southy moment. :-D
Yes blood can dehyrate thats how Alcohol damages brain cells, is by dehydration of the blood, and how it damages other parts of the body like your liver or kidneys.
No. Alcohol can cause dehydration, and severe dehydration can have an effect on red cell/plasma ratios. But the blood does not 'dehydrate'. You're probably trying to make a valid point. But you're using the wrong words.

freefinker says...
5:53pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
.. eh?

When have I personally abused you?

Apart from a few ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ's when you were being particularly irritating (and this post) I have a policy of totally ignoring you.

To actually say that I "will now start usual personal abuse" is in itself abusive on your part towards me.

BillyTheKid says...
6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
.. eh?

When have I personally abused you?

Apart from a few ZZZZZ, ZZZZZ's when you were being particularly irritating (and this post) I have a policy of totally ignoring you.

To actually say that I "will now start usual personal abuse" is in itself abusive on your part towards me.
You know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two.

Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.

cantthinkofone says...
6:06pm Thu 27 Sep 12

The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.

mack chinnon says...
6:10pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Dik,do one.

BillyTheKid says...
6:13pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.

BillyTheKid says...
6:17pm Thu 27 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.

Echo Awards says...
6:19pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Congratulations Billy The Kid, you have won 'Whiny Little Girl of the Week!"

cantthinkofone says...
6:20pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.

Georgem says...
6:20pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Don't give this idiotic troll the attention he craves.

BillyTheKid says...
6:23pm Thu 27 Sep 12

mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Dik,do one.
It's just occured to me that this is all you ever say on this website. You come here specifically to say "Dik, do one."

Ha ! Ha Ha Ha ! Ahhhhhh Ha ! Ha ! Ha !

BillyTheKid says...
6:24pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
Don't give this idiotic troll the attention he craves.
What....like you're doing, you mean ?

BillyTheKid says...
6:41pm Thu 27 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.

mack chinnon says...
6:50pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Dik,do one.
It's just occured to me that this is all you ever say on this website. You come here specifically to say "Dik, do one."

Ha ! Ha Ha Ha ! Ahhhhhh Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
No $hit $herlock. Anyway Dik,do one.

Georgem says...
6:58pm Thu 27 Sep 12

mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Dik,do one.
It's just occured to me that this is all you ever say on this website. You come here specifically to say "Dik, do one."

Ha ! Ha Ha Ha ! Ahhhhhh Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
No $hit $herlock. Anyway Dik,do one.
:) I think he really believes he's cracked some secret code there!

IronLady2010 says...
7:22pm Thu 27 Sep 12

It seems Operation Fortress is doing a grand job. If the Police can continue this 'ring of steel' regularly, it will hopefully deter many dealers from coming to Southampton.

Keep up the pressure!!!

cantthinkofone says...
7:35pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...

Goldenwight says...
8:02pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1. Granted. There is also considerable evidence that poor diet, extreme sports, family background, housing conditions and a variety of other factors are dangerous to your life and wellbeing. Including ladders- according to ONS ladder related accidents are responsible for around 50 deaths a year in the UK- you want to ban ladders? After all, they kill more people than, say, cannabis.

Point 2. There may well be. I prefer to put my trust in intelligent rational people who have weighed up the pros and cons of a situation before commenting.

Point 3. There is no medical evidence that most things we do are good for us. Right now you are probably being bathed in van eck radiation from your monitor, for example, but have you considered turning your computer off to minimize risk? Given the rest of your post and the comments in response, this would seem to be the preferred option of several other posters here!

Point 4. Since this is based on point 1 which I have already shown to be erroneous, probably enough said already. However, drugs are controlled (not illegal as such) for a variety of reasons. Police do not 'save lives' except as part of their duties which are principally to maintain the peace and uphold the law. They certainly didn't save the life of that guy who drowned in the paddling pool at Gosport a little while ago while they looked on, certainly. Although arguably it could be said that this was the Fire Service at fault here.

BillyTheKid says...
8:24pm Thu 27 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...
Not funny.

I keep trying to type your name in my replies, but always mis-type the second letter ! Freudian slip, perhaps ?

David Icke says...
9:04pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
The War on Drugs is over 30 years old, I think it's time we pulled out.
Even the police admit the war on drugs will never be won. All they can keep on trying to do is to stop dealers from exploiting dependant users and making money out of them, which is all they really care about.

We have all seen long term effects of 'soft' or 'hard' drug use, i see this frequently where i work, and all i keep thinking is i really do not want to live in a society where a growing number of people of all ages are like that which is what would happen if legalisation does happen.

BillyTheKid says...
9:14pm Thu 27 Sep 12

David Icke wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The War on Drugs is over 30 years old, I think it's time we pulled out.
Even the police admit the war on drugs will never be won. All they can keep on trying to do is to stop dealers from exploiting dependant users and making money out of them, which is all they really care about.

We have all seen long term effects of 'soft' or 'hard' drug use, i see this frequently where i work, and all i keep thinking is i really do not want to live in a society where a growing number of people of all ages are like that which is what would happen if legalisation does happen.
There you are, Goldenwight, first hand knowledge and information.

David, you have made a very welcome contribution.

IronLady2010 says...
9:23pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
David Icke wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The War on Drugs is over 30 years old, I think it's time we pulled out.
Even the police admit the war on drugs will never be won. All they can keep on trying to do is to stop dealers from exploiting dependant users and making money out of them, which is all they really care about.

We have all seen long term effects of 'soft' or 'hard' drug use, i see this frequently where i work, and all i keep thinking is i really do not want to live in a society where a growing number of people of all ages are like that which is what would happen if legalisation does happen.
There you are, Goldenwight, first hand knowledge and information.

David, you have made a very welcome contribution.
Billy, I'm in no way entering into an debate with you. Yet, you have once again mentioned another member and are baiting them to reply.

You need not reply to this as you know I won't enter your kind of debate.

If I am honest you are posting with the intention of baiting fellow members. If you have issues with fellow members, simply ignore them, as I do with your kind self, Sir.

Have a lovely evening and if you suspect anyone in your household or a neighbour of dealing in drugs, call 101 and report them.

BillyTheKid says...
9:39pm Thu 27 Sep 12

There is something rather fascinating, rather compelling and even addictive about posting on this forum. You get all sorts here with funny names, commenting seriously, advising, battling furiously, sneering, swearing with $'s and *'s, manipulating, and in a few cases, disrupting. You never know what's coming next.

It's unworldly, like a spontaneously improvised play that never ends, like life, I suppose in some respects.

But ultimately, if you keep your distance, it becomes disappointing. It is only a circus side show, an hour through the looking glass, a microcosmic alternative future that you can change just by saying something. Switch off the computer and it's gone.

I keep deciding to give up spending valuable time here, but can't resist having a peek, seeing what Southy is saying, and so on. You make a comment, and then you get sucked in.
Boy, do you get sucked in ! When anyone asks me what I think of the Echo website, I always tell them the truth : it really sucks !

Bye for now, maybe for good. Who really knows ?

St. Saint says...
9:50pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1 - Depends on the drug. I would say your comment fits best with alcohol. Cannabis has never killed anyone, has probably wrecked a couple of lives but nothing compared to legal drugs, does not fuel violence - quite the opposite in fact, and only fuels crime because it's illegal.

Point 2 - There are also thousands of ex-junkies who would say drugs should be legalised. The most famous of those, Russel Brand, just made a tv show stating exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Point 3 - There is mounds of medical evidence that cannabis slows or stops the growth of cancer, relieves pain, helps arthritis and in fact has many many more useful medical properties.

Point 4 - Most drugs are illegal because it helps those in power. The 'War on Drugs' is a phrase created by the CIA when they were simultaneously funding cocaine farmers in South America to overthrow elected governments who didn't share their interests. It is a much-proven fact as you put it that the CIA actually turned a blind eye to the transport of Cocaine into America on their own planes on the return journey from dropping off weapons which caused the slaughter of millions in cartel wars and American funded for coup-d'etats. It's an enormous hypocrisy. The leaders of these countries heading this 'war' cosy up to the kingpins constantly and just arrest the small fry to save face. Since we invaded Afghanistan it has increased to become the producer of 95% of the worlds heroin, it's a joke. If you don't believe this look it up.

And before you bang on families who have lost someone, get it in perspective. Millions lose family members every year from alcohol including a couple in mine. It's a far, far more dangerous addiction than nearly every illegal drug. I know quite a few people of all classes and walks of life who take recreational drugs, including those who work in well respected professions, including the police - just like alcohol. Perhaps people would lose less through drug addiction if the help was there and they were treated, rather than criminalised.

Obviously there are some horrendous drugs out there, a couple of them illegal like Meth but most of them legal and untested on the internet, something laws will never keep up with.

It's a pointless exercise. People will find a way no matter what the laws are. The drugs laws fund the real criminals, not the drugs.

And no, I don't use recreational drugs and never have.

freefinker says...
9:50pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
There is something rather fascinating, rather compelling and even addictive about posting on this forum. You get all sorts here with funny names, commenting seriously, advising, battling furiously, sneering, swearing with $'s and *'s, manipulating, and in a few cases, disrupting. You never know what's coming next.

It's unworldly, like a spontaneously improvised play that never ends, like life, I suppose in some respects.

But ultimately, if you keep your distance, it becomes disappointing. It is only a circus side show, an hour through the looking glass, a microcosmic alternative future that you can change just by saying something. Switch off the computer and it's gone.

I keep deciding to give up spending valuable time here, but can't resist having a peek, seeing what Southy is saying, and so on. You make a comment, and then you get sucked in.
Boy, do you get sucked in ! When anyone asks me what I think of the Echo website, I always tell them the truth : it really sucks !

Bye for now, maybe for good. Who really knows ?
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cantthinkofone says...
9:56pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...
Not funny.

I keep trying to type your name in my replies, but always mis-type the second letter ! Freudian slip, perhaps ?
I'm not trying to be 'funny' Billy.

You're taking this place WAY too seriously. No one really cares about the comments section of the Daily Echo. A few hundred readers may skim your opinions, but that's it. It's the comments section of a local newspaper. It DOESN'T MATTER.

If you want your opinions to be read by a lot of people, post them on Reddit, or Urban75. But please stop treating this like it's a UN convention. Like I said, it's embarrassing for you.

cantthinkofone says...
9:57pm Thu 27 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
There is something rather fascinating, rather compelling and even addictive about posting on this forum. You get all sorts here with funny names, commenting seriously, advising, battling furiously, sneering, swearing with $'s and *'s, manipulating, and in a few cases, disrupting. You never know what's coming next.

It's unworldly, like a spontaneously improvised play that never ends, like life, I suppose in some respects.

But ultimately, if you keep your distance, it becomes disappointing. It is only a circus side show, an hour through the looking glass, a microcosmic alternative future that you can change just by saying something. Switch off the computer and it's gone.

I keep deciding to give up spending valuable time here, but can't resist having a peek, seeing what Southy is saying, and so on. You make a comment, and then you get sucked in.
Boy, do you get sucked in ! When anyone asks me what I think of the Echo website, I always tell them the truth : it really sucks !

Bye for now, maybe for good. Who really knows ?
Or cares?

St. Saint says...
10:03pm Thu 27 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...
Not funny.

I keep trying to type your name in my replies, but always mis-type the second letter ! Freudian slip, perhaps ?
I'm not trying to be 'funny' Billy.

You're taking this place WAY too seriously. No one really cares about the comments section of the Daily Echo. A few hundred readers may skim your opinions, but that's it. It's the comments section of a local newspaper. It DOESN'T MATTER.

If you want your opinions to be read by a lot of people, post them on Reddit, or Urban75. But please stop treating this like it's a UN convention. Like I said, it's embarrassing for you.
Billy you should watch the drugs trial live on Channel 4. It's got Professor Nutt on, you know the absolute top expert in his field who was commissioned at huge expense by the government to produce an unbiased assessment of illegal drugs.

He concluded that most were made legal or less criminal. He was ignored. They never gave a reason why.

St. Saint says...
10:04pm Thu 27 Sep 12

St. Saint wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...
Not funny.

I keep trying to type your name in my replies, but always mis-type the second letter ! Freudian slip, perhaps ?
I'm not trying to be 'funny' Billy.

You're taking this place WAY too seriously. No one really cares about the comments section of the Daily Echo. A few hundred readers may skim your opinions, but that's it. It's the comments section of a local newspaper. It DOESN'T MATTER.

If you want your opinions to be read by a lot of people, post them on Reddit, or Urban75. But please stop treating this like it's a UN convention. Like I said, it's embarrassing for you.
Billy you should watch the drugs trial live on Channel 4. It's got Professor Nutt on, you know the absolute top expert in his field who was commissioned at huge expense by the government to produce an unbiased assessment of illegal drugs.

He concluded that most were made legal or less criminal. He was ignored. They never gave a reason why.
Its on now by the way

Georgem says...
10:51pm Thu 27 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
The mewling to the website editor (who I'm sure is utterly uninterested in these playground spats) is a trifle pathetic tbh.
Very helpful, insightful comment, ctkf ! Let's hope no one ever asks YOU to weigh up evidence and come to any fair conclusions.
Debate away. Just please stop name-dropping Dan Kerins on every thread as though he gives a fig. It's embarrassing.
Have you ever spoken to him ? Newsquest and Dan are trying to straighten this website out, so they appreciate any light that normal users can throw on what goes on here.

As far as I can tell, I don't think he'd like it if he felt people thought he didn't "give a fig". If they can't get things right here, they'll close it down, which will be their failure.

With Loosehead, Southy, Georgem, myself for the present, and a few others posting on and off everyday, this site serves as a "live" chat room as well as a message board.

There are site rules, and Georgem continues to break them.

All right. Here it is straight. We have anarchy here, and Georgem is at the very root of it. Go back over threads for the last six months and you'll see it, clear as day. I don't like the offensive things he has said to me, or to others, and I am going to do my best to get him busted, because it is what he deserves.
Wow, you're actually delusional...

It's the comments section of a provincial paper Billy. That's it. It's full of the type of thing that keeps websites like "spEak You're bRanes" in business.

Step away from the keyboard Billy, for your own good. Seriously fella.

Worrying...
Not funny.

I keep trying to type your name in my replies, but always mis-type the second letter ! Freudian slip, perhaps ?
I'm not trying to be 'funny' Billy.

You're taking this place WAY too seriously. No one really cares about the comments section of the Daily Echo. A few hundred readers may skim your opinions, but that's it. It's the comments section of a local newspaper. It DOESN'T MATTER.

If you want your opinions to be read by a lot of people, post them on Reddit, or Urban75. But please stop treating this like it's a UN convention. Like I said, it's embarrassing for you.
He's not going to stop until I'm 'busted', whatever that means. Account banned, I'm guessing. Bit pointless, really, that wouldn't even be a mild hindrance to posting.

IronLady2010 says...
12:07am Fri 28 Sep 12

Wonderful! Another News item hijacked.........

BillyTheKid says...
12:08am Fri 28 Sep 12

St. Saint wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1 - Depends on the drug. I would say your comment fits best with alcohol. Cannabis has never killed anyone, has probably wrecked a couple of lives but nothing compared to legal drugs, does not fuel violence - quite the opposite in fact, and only fuels crime because it's illegal.

Point 2 - There are also thousands of ex-junkies who would say drugs should be legalised. The most famous of those, Russel Brand, just made a tv show stating exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Point 3 - There is mounds of medical evidence that cannabis slows or stops the growth of cancer, relieves pain, helps arthritis and in fact has many many more useful medical properties.

Point 4 - Most drugs are illegal because it helps those in power. The 'War on Drugs' is a phrase created by the CIA when they were simultaneously funding cocaine farmers in South America to overthrow elected governments who didn't share their interests. It is a much-proven fact as you put it that the CIA actually turned a blind eye to the transport of Cocaine into America on their own planes on the return journey from dropping off weapons which caused the slaughter of millions in cartel wars and American funded for coup-d'etats. It's an enormous hypocrisy. The leaders of these countries heading this 'war' cosy up to the kingpins constantly and just arrest the small fry to save face. Since we invaded Afghanistan it has increased to become the producer of 95% of the worlds heroin, it's a joke. If you don't believe this look it up.

And before you bang on families who have lost someone, get it in perspective. Millions lose family members every year from alcohol including a couple in mine. It's a far, far more dangerous addiction than nearly every illegal drug. I know quite a few people of all classes and walks of life who take recreational drugs, including those who work in well respected professions, including the police - just like alcohol. Perhaps people would lose less through drug addiction if the help was there and they were treated, rather than criminalised.

Obviously there are some horrendous drugs out there, a couple of them illegal like Meth but most of them legal and untested on the internet, something laws will never keep up with.

It's a pointless exercise. People will find a way no matter what the laws are. The drugs laws fund the real criminals, not the drugs.

And no, I don't use recreational drugs and never have.
Well bless my soul, Sainty old chap, best get your butt up the cop shop and tell em how misguided their operation is. I'm sure they'll listen to you.

Russell Brand ? Oh come on ! Will Self is a better example of a reformed junkie. At least he is intelligent and has made some real contributions to literature and criticism. What has Russell Brand ever said or done that was worth hearing about ? He is an insufferable mess of talentless bullshi t, insincerity, and affectation.

And before you say anything, yes I do think I am right on this.

Russell Brand ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !

BillyTheKid says...
12:12am Fri 28 Sep 12

IronLady2010 wrote:
Wonderful! Another News item hijacked.........
It's an open forum, it's a free country, and we have freedom to say what we like.

It's a very serious topic, and requires more than shallow, condescending chit chat.

BillyTheKid says...
12:57am Fri 28 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1. Granted. There is also considerable evidence that poor diet, extreme sports, family background, housing conditions and a variety of other factors are dangerous to your life and wellbeing. Including ladders- according to ONS ladder related accidents are responsible for around 50 deaths a year in the UK- you want to ban ladders? After all, they kill more people than, say, cannabis.

Point 2. There may well be. I prefer to put my trust in intelligent rational people who have weighed up the pros and cons of a situation before commenting.

Point 3. There is no medical evidence that most things we do are good for us. Right now you are probably being bathed in van eck radiation from your monitor, for example, but have you considered turning your computer off to minimize risk? Given the rest of your post and the comments in response, this would seem to be the preferred option of several other posters here!

Point 4. Since this is based on point 1 which I have already shown to be erroneous, probably enough said already. However, drugs are controlled (not illegal as such) for a variety of reasons. Police do not 'save lives' except as part of their duties which are principally to maintain the peace and uphold the law. They certainly didn't save the life of that guy who drowned in the paddling pool at Gosport a little while ago while they looked on, certainly. Although arguably it could be said that this was the Fire Service at fault here.
I have wasted valuable minutes of my life reading absolute tosh here at times, but your post gets gold !

Haven't you got some homework to finish ? Or maybe you should go and tidy your room.
A perfectly reasonable post that you happen not to agree with, and your response is a childish, patronising insulting attack. It's pretty obvious you are trolling, and I suggest you kill yourself immediately.
"Haven't you got some homework to finish ? Or maybe you should go and tidy your room" A mild, jokey remark.

How does it compare with "I suggest you kill yourself immediately" ?

At last people can see you as you really are, Georgem. I have argued with you and mildly insulted you in the past, but I have never suggested you commit suicide, which you have said to me twice today.

Georgem, it's got to said by somebody : you are an offensive, dishonest, disingenuous, virtual nobody. But I would never wish you, or any of the trolls here, dead, because people can change. You see, Georgem, the things you criticise me for are the very things you despise in yourself - at least, that is how it appears to me.

Forgive yourself. Apologise to me. You know you need this site for some reason. I don't. I choose to come here. Just as soon as it suits me I'll stop, because I do tire of sameness. Or maybe The Dark Lord Kerins will make that decision for me !

"Cantthinkofone" is completely wrong to say that the posts here do not matter. EVERYTHING MATTERS.

mack chinnon says...
1:19am Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1. Granted. There is also considerable evidence that poor diet, extreme sports, family background, housing conditions and a variety of other factors are dangerous to your life and wellbeing. Including ladders- according to ONS ladder related accidents are responsible for around 50 deaths a year in the UK- you want to ban ladders? After all, they kill more people than, say, cannabis.

Point 2. There may well be. I prefer to put my trust in intelligent rational people who have weighed up the pros and cons of a situation before commenting.

Point 3. There is no medical evidence that most things we do are good for us. Right now you are probably being bathed in van eck radiation from your monitor, for example, but have you considered turning your computer off to minimize risk? Given the rest of your post and the comments in response, this would seem to be the preferred option of several other posters here!

Point 4. Since this is based on point 1 which I have already shown to be erroneous, probably enough said already. However, drugs are controlled (not illegal as such) for a variety of reasons. Police do not 'save lives' except as part of their duties which are principally to maintain the peace and uphold the law. They certainly didn't save the life of that guy who drowned in the paddling pool at Gosport a little while ago while they looked on, certainly. Although arguably it could be said that this was the Fire Service at fault here.
I have wasted valuable minutes of my life reading absolute tosh here at times, but your post gets gold !

Haven't you got some homework to finish ? Or maybe you should go and tidy your room.
A perfectly reasonable post that you happen not to agree with, and your response is a childish, patronising insulting attack. It's pretty obvious you are trolling, and I suggest you kill yourself immediately.
"Haven't you got some homework to finish ? Or maybe you should go and tidy your room" A mild, jokey remark.

How does it compare with "I suggest you kill yourself immediately" ?

At last people can see you as you really are, Georgem. I have argued with you and mildly insulted you in the past, but I have never suggested you commit suicide, which you have said to me twice today.

Georgem, it's got to said by somebody : you are an offensive, dishonest, disingenuous, virtual nobody. But I would never wish you, or any of the trolls here, dead, because people can change. You see, Georgem, the things you criticise me for are the very things you despise in yourself - at least, that is how it appears to me.

Forgive yourself. Apologise to me. You know you need this site for some reason. I don't. I choose to come here. Just as soon as it suits me I'll stop, because I do tire of sameness. Or maybe The Dark Lord Kerins will make that decision for me !

"Cantthinkofone" is completely wrong to say that the posts here do not matter. EVERYTHING MATTERS.
You just cant help yourself can you. Anyway Dik,do one.

Shoong says...
10:37am Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy,

Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet.

No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence.

My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.'

I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here.

But I don't let it get to me.

BillyTheKid says...
1:18pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy,

Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet.

No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence.

My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.'

I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here.

But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ?

Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess.

But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ?

And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull.

Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ?

Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible.

For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion.

Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin
g opinion.

It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan.

Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !"

I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle.

Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !

Shoong says...
1:27pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy,

Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet.

No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence.

My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.'

I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here.

But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ?

Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess.

But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ?

And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull.

Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ?

Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible.

For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion.

Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin

g opinion.

It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan.

Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !"

I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle.

Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be?

'Adopting my style'.

--------------------
----------

'It's not getting to me'.

No of course it isn't.

Bye.

BillyTheKid says...
2:03pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy,

Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet.

No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence.

My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.'

I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here.

But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ?

Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess.

But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ?

And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull.

Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ?

Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible.

For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion.

Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin


g opinion.

It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan.

Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !"

I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle.

Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be?

'Adopting my style'.

--------------------

----------

'It's not getting to me'.

No of course it isn't.

Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though !

Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better.

It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? )

What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?

Shoong says...
2:34pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you.

All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing.

Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy.

Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ?

You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone.

You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen.
I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ?

I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy,

Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet.

No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence.

My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.'

I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here.

But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ?

Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess.

But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ?

And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull.

Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ?

Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible.

For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion.

Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin



g opinion.

It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan.

Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !"

I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle.

Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be?

'Adopting my style'.

--------------------


----------

'It's not getting to me'.

No of course it isn't.

Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though !

Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better.

It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? )

What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.

BillyTheKid says...
2:46pm Fri 28 Sep 12

A grip ? What do I need a lighting technician for ? Aren't my posts "illuminating" enough ?

Advantage Billy The Kid.

( Shoong under great pressure now to come up with a good shot. The Backwater audience are hushed with tense anticipation........
...! The obvious one would be to doubt Billy's sanity, or there is always the dismissive brush off. Maybe Shoong will go for a dynamic put down, or simply ignore his post altogether. What will it be ? What will it be ?)

rich the stitch says...
2:47pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever"
Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he.
A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet.
What a life. You should really get out more.

BillyTheKid says...
3:50pm Fri 28 Sep 12

rich the stitch wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever"
Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he.
A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet.
What a life. You should really get out more.
I am actually a 24/7 carer for a relative with severe Altzheimer's, and I need to be in attendance, whether needed or not.

It is not very pleasant watching the slow deterioration of a loved one, and there is always the fear of something bad happening to them while they are in someone else's care, while you are "getting out more".

As I have said, people make assumptions about other people here based on no actual knowledge of that person whatsoever.

But what does rich the stitch care so long as he's stuck 'is slack-jawed oar in an 'ad 'is say ! Yeh ! Roight on stitchy boy ! Tell that Billy bloke what you fink, mate !

Shoong says...
3:52pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
A grip ? What do I need a lighting technician for ? Aren't my posts "illuminating" enough ?

Advantage Billy The Kid.

( Shoong under great pressure now to come up with a good shot. The Backwater audience are hushed with tense anticipation........

...! The obvious one would be to doubt Billy's sanity, or there is always the dismissive brush off. Maybe Shoong will go for a dynamic put down, or simply ignore his post altogether. What will it be ? What will it be ?)
'Under 'great' pressure.'

'Billy's sanity'

Head's gone.

Shoong says...
3:57pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
rich the stitch wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever"
Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he.
A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet.
What a life. You should really get out more.
I am actually a 24/7 carer for a relative with severe Altzheimer's, and I need to be in attendance, whether needed or not.

It is not very pleasant watching the slow deterioration of a loved one, and there is always the fear of something bad happening to them while they are in someone else's care, while you are "getting out more".

As I have said, people make assumptions about other people here based on no actual knowledge of that person whatsoever.

But what does rich the stitch care so long as he's stuck 'is slack-jawed oar in an 'ad 'is say ! Yeh ! Roight on stitchy boy ! Tell that Billy bloke what you fink, mate !
Going for the sympathy vote?

Did other people bring this up then?

And how do we know it's true?

We don't. Because it's just a flippin' local rag newspaper forum. I could say I've got Red Rum grazing out in my garden. How can you disprove this?

No-one is reading these comments except us.

You sound stressed - tell someone, don't take it out on me (seriously!).

cantthinkofone says...
4:33pm Fri 28 Sep 12

I've rarely seen any poster on here with such a falsely inflated opinion of themself.

Delusions of Grandeur anyone?

mack chinnon says...
4:47pm Fri 28 Sep 12

rich the stitch wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever"
Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he.
A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet.
What a life. You should really get out more.
Bizarre, the only person who dosent think he is a dik is Dik.

Georgem says...
4:48pm Fri 28 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
I've rarely seen any poster on here with such a falsely inflated opinion of themself.

Delusions of Grandeur anyone?
BillyTheKid whined:

As I have said, people make assumptions about other people here based on no actual knowledge of that person whatsoever.


Indeed. Who was it said "when you point a finger, two point back"?

Now, go kill yourself. Remember, BillyTheKid is a fictional character. The sooner he dies, the better for all.

rich the stitch says...
5:00pm Fri 28 Sep 12

mack chinnon wrote:
rich the stitch wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever" Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he. A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet. What a life. You should really get out more.
Bizarre, the only person who dosent think he is a dik is Dik.
Believe me, I do think he's a dik.

Georgem says...
5:07pm Fri 28 Sep 12

cantthinkofone wrote:
I've rarely seen any poster on here with such a falsely inflated opinion of themself.

Delusions of Grandeur anyone?
Delusions of grandeur, or maybe just distortions of scale in general? Remember, not only does he think more of HIMSELF than is warranted, he also thinks of the Echo comment section as something somewhat larger and more important than it actually is.

Georgem says...
5:11pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
A grip ? What do I need a lighting technician for ? Aren't my posts "illuminating" enough ?

Advantage Billy The Kid.

( Shoong under great pressure now to come up with a good shot. The Backwater audience are hushed with tense anticipation........

...! The obvious one would be to doubt Billy's sanity, or there is always the dismissive brush off. Maybe Shoong will go for a dynamic put down, or simply ignore his post altogether. What will it be ? What will it be ?)
"Puns are for shy people who are incapable of full-length jokes or stories."

- BillyTheKid, 15th September.

BillyTheKid says...
5:11pm Fri 28 Sep 12

If nobody believes anybody here, and you reserve the right to make whatever assumptions you like, and you reserve the right to offend anyone you like, and you don't care, and nothing matters, it's just an internet backwater, WHY ARE YOU ALL HERE ?

I have a reason to be here : passing time before getting the evening meal. According to you I am a sad old curtain twitcher,so I'm doing what those sort of people do.

But what about you with your intelligence, youth, and busy, exciting lives ? Why are you just sitting there waiting to see what Billy's going to say next ?

Georgem has been predicting my eventual "breakdown" for months, but here I still am, laughing right at you !

I don't do it often, only when i think it is deserved, but I'm afraid you have been totally set up today !

I'm waiting for Dan to cancel my account or get rid of Georgem, the choice is his. I hope he does the former or both, because I have seen you people for what you are today : empty. Totally devoid of any normal human feelings or attitude.

I might clear off for good now, I might come back in a minute. Who knows. But you'll all be here, won't you ? Waiting to see what I'm going to say next.........

I don't have delusions of grandeur, you are forcing grandeur upon me !

rich the stitch says...
5:12pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
rich the stitch wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: And Billy The Kid once again reverts to type. Yawn. Not bad, Billy, you lasted a few weeks before the lure of the Internet argument got the better of you this time. Southy is thick-skinned enough to look after himself, I doubt he's thanking you for reporting everyone on his behalf.
How dare you. All I am continuing (not "reverting") to do is highlight all your attempts to ridicule people. You do it to me, you do it to Southy, and anyone you fancy abusing. Here, despite my justified rant at you, you try to score points with a worn-out retort, and an attempt at playing me off against Southy. Why should we have to be "thick-skinned" just because you are around, Georgem ? You got all excited about the apple phone thing and posted miles of geek-talk there (no harm in that, in fact I found it quite interesting), and now here you are with nothing of value to say, so you start picking on someone. You are so predictable. You're a nobody, just like most of us. Get used to it.
It's about dispelling lies and hypocrisy, that is the duty of any good citizen. I get the feeling 'Georgem' doesn't really care about what you think about him.
But does it give him the right to call me a "p rick", and tell me to "kill myself", as he has done on another thread ? I have criticized him for abusing Southy.
Billy, Go and light a phat one and forget about it. It's a backwater of the internet. No-one abuses Peter Wyatt. He paints a target on his back with outlandish lies, hypocrisy and trying to talk down to people with some sort of higher than thou intelligence. My old man always told me - 'Falsehoods and lies must always be challenged.' I'd do it on the street, I'd do it on here. But I don't let it get to me.
Just what is it with you people ? Nothing is getting to me. The fact that I can express myself with some sort of theatrical bravura is my good fortune and pleasure, I guess. But hoards of you gather round Southy and myself everytime we post, making discourteous and insulting remarks in a way you would never do in the real world. I mean, look at that idiot Mack Chinnon. Just keeps up a relentless "Dik do one" routine like some third-phase dementia patient. And Georgem. Smug, superficial twit who deliberately misinterprets posts and causes mayhem. What is the point ? And the assumptions people make ! I don't write to get attention. But if my writing is a cut above the rest sometimes, then if may GET attention. But Georgem, he likes to verbally mince around this forum like some old tart, having the last superficial word all the time. If only he could come up with stuff above key stage 2 it would be interesting. But he/she is just jealous of anyone who diverts attention away from his special brand of bull. Everybody knows and can see that Southy has some difficulty with expressing himself, but the essence of what he says shows some genuine thought has gone into a subject, even if some of it is erroneous. You don't have to tear him to bits over it like frigging savages ! In real life, do you go around making fun of and insulting people with disabilities ? Years ago, and recently, I came to this site and simply expressed opinions. The rudeness and abuse I saw being dished out, and got personally, was just incredible. For the record, I'm not a troll, I'm not psychotic or delusional, and I don't use this or any other site to get attention. I'm not in denial either, before some dumb a$$h*le (I'm getting used to this swearing with asterisks sh*t ! Ha ! ) who's just dug their nose out of a beginners guide to psychology ventures that opinion. Yeh, you're right. This is a backwater of the internet. And like many backwaters, it's stagnant and it stinks........er, in my humble, non-attention-seekin g opinion. It's been a fascinating ride, if ultimately disappointing. I've asked Dan to shut Georgem down or cancel my account. I know what I'd do if I was Dan. Well, one thing you can say for me, I did fight back. I set a new trend. Billy The Kid, like his namesake, will now become a legend for a second time ! In the Echo Backwater Forum ! I notice many of the young punks here adopting my style. It's all to do with dynamic sentence construction, and building towards a final impact. And use "threes" : like the old Perry Mason phrase " Your Honour, that question is incompetent, irrelevent, and immaterial !" I know you can stand up for yourself, Southy, and I wish you well. I was just on about a matter of principle. Hey, Chinnon ! Do one ! Ha !
How self important can you be? 'Adopting my style'. -------------------- ---------- 'It's not getting to me'. No of course it isn't. Bye.
Adopting my style : writing much longer comments, asking questions, digressing, and trying to make it all interesting to read. Wasted on some Backwater wallies, though ! Before me, only Southy and Loosehead did it. But with my lifetime of experience and a strong command of the English language, I suppose I can do it better. It's not great literature, it won't win any prizes, but it's good enough for Echo Backwater ! ( Use of "threes" again - effective, no ? ) What is a shoong ? Is it Chinese ?
Get a grip.
Thur 27th 9.39pm Billy ends a post with "bye for now, maybe forever" Thur 27th 9.49pm Bill starts another post. Just can't keep away can he. A retired old curtain twitcher with nothing better to do than troll the internet. What a life. You should really get out more.
I am actually a 24/7 carer for a relative with severe Altzheimer's, and I need to be in attendance, whether needed or not. It is not very pleasant watching the slow deterioration of a loved one, and there is always the fear of something bad happening to them while they are in someone else's care, while you are "getting out more". As I have said, people make assumptions about other people here based on no actual knowledge of that person whatsoever. But what does rich the stitch care so long as he's stuck 'is slack-jawed oar in an 'ad 'is say ! Yeh ! Roight on stitchy boy ! Tell that Billy bloke what you fink, mate !
You're right, I don't care, could not give a ****. If you talk as much cr@p face to face as you do on here I'd imagine your relative would want you to get out more. Have fun cleaning up sh** and dribble, I'm off out.

Georgem says...
5:19pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
If nobody believes anybody here, and you reserve the right to make whatever assumptions you like, and you reserve the right to offend anyone you like, and you don't care, and nothing matters, it's just an internet backwater, WHY ARE YOU ALL HERE ?

I have a reason to be here : passing time before getting the evening meal. According to you I am a sad old curtain twitcher,so I'm doing what those sort of people do.

But what about you with your intelligence, youth, and busy, exciting lives ? Why are you just sitting there waiting to see what Billy's going to say next ?

Georgem has been predicting my eventual "breakdown" for months, but here I still am, laughing right at you !

I don't do it often, only when i think it is deserved, but I'm afraid you have been totally set up today !

I'm waiting for Dan to cancel my account or get rid of Georgem, the choice is his. I hope he does the former or both, because I have seen you people for what you are today : empty. Totally devoid of any normal human feelings or attitude.

I might clear off for good now, I might come back in a minute. Who knows. But you'll all be here, won't you ? Waiting to see what I'm going to say next.........

I don't have delusions of grandeur, you are forcing grandeur upon me !
You won't clear off. You say this repeatedly. Dan isn't going to "get rid" of me, I am not going to "get busted", whatever you think that means.

BillyTheKid says...
1:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12

I'll clear off when my account is closed. In the meantime I'll continue dishing out what you deserve, sad little Bigelow boy !

Georgem says...
2:51pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
I'll clear off when my account is closed. In the meantime I'll continue dishing out what you deserve, sad little Bigelow boy !
Kill yourself you pathetic tosspot.

David Goodall says...
9:59am Sun 30 Sep 12

Great action by the Police going after the drug trade.

St. Saint says...
10:10am Wed 3 Oct 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
St. Saint wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1 - Depends on the drug. I would say your comment fits best with alcohol. Cannabis has never killed anyone, has probably wrecked a couple of lives but nothing compared to legal drugs, does not fuel violence - quite the opposite in fact, and only fuels crime because it's illegal.

Point 2 - There are also thousands of ex-junkies who would say drugs should be legalised. The most famous of those, Russel Brand, just made a tv show stating exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Point 3 - There is mounds of medical evidence that cannabis slows or stops the growth of cancer, relieves pain, helps arthritis and in fact has many many more useful medical properties.

Point 4 - Most drugs are illegal because it helps those in power. The 'War on Drugs' is a phrase created by the CIA when they were simultaneously funding cocaine farmers in South America to overthrow elected governments who didn't share their interests. It is a much-proven fact as you put it that the CIA actually turned a blind eye to the transport of Cocaine into America on their own planes on the return journey from dropping off weapons which caused the slaughter of millions in cartel wars and American funded for coup-d'etats. It's an enormous hypocrisy. The leaders of these countries heading this 'war' cosy up to the kingpins constantly and just arrest the small fry to save face. Since we invaded Afghanistan it has increased to become the producer of 95% of the worlds heroin, it's a joke. If you don't believe this look it up.

And before you bang on families who have lost someone, get it in perspective. Millions lose family members every year from alcohol including a couple in mine. It's a far, far more dangerous addiction than nearly every illegal drug. I know quite a few people of all classes and walks of life who take recreational drugs, including those who work in well respected professions, including the police - just like alcohol. Perhaps people would lose less through drug addiction if the help was there and they were treated, rather than criminalised.

Obviously there are some horrendous drugs out there, a couple of them illegal like Meth but most of them legal and untested on the internet, something laws will never keep up with.

It's a pointless exercise. People will find a way no matter what the laws are. The drugs laws fund the real criminals, not the drugs.

And no, I don't use recreational drugs and never have.
Well bless my soul, Sainty old chap, best get your butt up the cop shop and tell em how misguided their operation is. I'm sure they'll listen to you.

Russell Brand ? Oh come on ! Will Self is a better example of a reformed junkie. At least he is intelligent and has made some real contributions to literature and criticism. What has Russell Brand ever said or done that was worth hearing about ? He is an insufferable mess of talentless bullshi t, insincerity, and affectation.

And before you say anything, yes I do think I am right on this.

Russell Brand ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
Wow, you are unreal. What an incredibly stupid reply. For future reference - if you want to make a point, argue the point.

Firstly, I'll pick up on your one criticism of my point though. Fine, Russell Brand isn't the most appealing of people, but he is the most famous as I stated. He's also contributed a lot more to society than you ever have.

Secondly, as you obviously think Russell Brand is not 'intelligent' for some unbeknown reason and that Will Self is, Will Self also agrees that drugs should be legalized.

And lastly, you are a complete and utter waste of space.

St. Saint says...
10:11am Wed 3 Oct 12

St. Saint wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
St. Saint wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
What's the matter with you, Freethinker and George M ( what does the "m" stand for ? Mindtwister ?) ? No Billy The Kid to ridicule, so you victimise Southy. How predictable ! You have to be ragging on somebody, don't you ?

Anyone with the slightest intelligence can see what Southy is getting at. He is saying, fundamentally, that most recreational drugs are bad for you. He may have his facts a bit muddled, but he is clearly in the right ball park.

POINT 1 : There are mountains and mountains of evidence that recereational drugs, if they do not kill you, wreck lives, wreck families, and fuel violence and crime.

POINT 2 : There are thousands of reformed junkies who will tell you are talking provocative, ill-judged nonsense here.

POINT 3 : There is no medical evidence that recreational drugs are good for you.

POINT 4 : Because of POINT 1, recreational drugs are illegal, and the police will continue their fight to save lives.

Before you start on me by saying you are entitled to your opinion, and that Billy The Kid always insists he is right, I'd like you to think of all those families whose children have died through drug abuse, and all those children who have lost parents through drug abuse.

Your attitudes are sick and irresponsible, and just typical of your usual MO.

It may be my opinion, but it is also a much-proven FACT that recreational drug use is dangerous.

So stop muddying the waters.

By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.
Point 1 - Depends on the drug. I would say your comment fits best with alcohol. Cannabis has never killed anyone, has probably wrecked a couple of lives but nothing compared to legal drugs, does not fuel violence - quite the opposite in fact, and only fuels crime because it's illegal.

Point 2 - There are also thousands of ex-junkies who would say drugs should be legalised. The most famous of those, Russel Brand, just made a tv show stating exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Point 3 - There is mounds of medical evidence that cannabis slows or stops the growth of cancer, relieves pain, helps arthritis and in fact has many many more useful medical properties.

Point 4 - Most drugs are illegal because it helps those in power. The 'War on Drugs' is a phrase created by the CIA when they were simultaneously funding cocaine farmers in South America to overthrow elected governments who didn't share their interests. It is a much-proven fact as you put it that the CIA actually turned a blind eye to the transport of Cocaine into America on their own planes on the return journey from dropping off weapons which caused the slaughter of millions in cartel wars and American funded for coup-d'etats. It's an enormous hypocrisy. The leaders of these countries heading this 'war' cosy up to the kingpins constantly and just arrest the small fry to save face. Since we invaded Afghanistan it has increased to become the producer of 95% of the worlds heroin, it's a joke. If you don't believe this look it up.

And before you bang on families who have lost someone, get it in perspective. Millions lose family members every year from alcohol including a couple in mine. It's a far, far more dangerous addiction than nearly every illegal drug. I know quite a few people of all classes and walks of life who take recreational drugs, including those who work in well respected professions, including the police - just like alcohol. Perhaps people would lose less through drug addiction if the help was there and they were treated, rather than criminalised.

Obviously there are some horrendous drugs out there, a couple of them illegal like Meth but most of them legal and untested on the internet, something laws will never keep up with.

It's a pointless exercise. People will find a way no matter what the laws are. The drugs laws fund the real criminals, not the drugs.

And no, I don't use recreational drugs and never have.
Well bless my soul, Sainty old chap, best get your butt up the cop shop and tell em how misguided their operation is. I'm sure they'll listen to you.

Russell Brand ? Oh come on ! Will Self is a better example of a reformed junkie. At least he is intelligent and has made some real contributions to literature and criticism. What has Russell Brand ever said or done that was worth hearing about ? He is an insufferable mess of talentless bullshi t, insincerity, and affectation.

And before you say anything, yes I do think I am right on this.

Russell Brand ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
Wow, you are unreal. What an incredibly stupid reply. For future reference - if you want to make a point, argue the point.

Firstly, I'll pick up on your one criticism of my point though. Fine, Russell Brand isn't the most appealing of people, but he is the most famous as I stated. He's also contributed a lot more to society than you ever have.

Secondly, as you obviously think Russell Brand is not 'intelligent' for some unbeknown reason and that Will Self is, Will Self also agrees that drugs should be legalized.

And lastly, you are a complete and utter waste of space.
Oh and I have talked to a couple of policemen about this and they completely agree.

Monty3 says...
7:17pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Merry94 wrote:
Waste of time, police could be catching rapists and murderers but instead looking for weed. British police are rubbish.
Get your application in then...and show how it should be done! Moron!!

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