Jailed for eight years after glass attack at wedding (From Daily Echo)

"He had denied the charge"
“It was the worst moment of my life. I have badly wanted to say sorry to him and his family.”

So he denied it but admits that it was "The worst moment" of his life and that he wanted to say sorry. . .

So he did meant to do it then and he could not really deny the charge or am I missing a point here?

Well that was a waste of a suit. It won't fit him when he comes out in 2020.

solents wrote:
"He had denied the charge"
“It was the worst moment of my life. I have badly wanted to say sorry to him and his family.”

So he denied it but admits that it was "The worst moment" of his life and that he wanted to say sorry. . .

So he did meant to do it then and he could not really deny the charge or am I missing a point here?

He may well have been pleading not guilty to the charge, but accepted that he hit him with the glass in his hand.
The 'Intent' element being the part in question.

****£d up fight at a wedding gone wrong with massive implications for all concerned.
This alcohol is a terrible thing you know!

Ted Rogers wrote:

solents wrote: "He had denied the charge" “It was the worst moment of my life. I have badly wanted to say sorry to him and his family.” So he denied it but admits that it was "The worst moment" of his life and that he wanted to say sorry. . . So he did meant to do it then and he could not really deny the charge or am I missing a point here?

He may well have been pleading not guilty to the charge, but accepted that he hit him with the glass in his hand. The 'Intent' element being the part in question. ****£d up fight at a wedding gone wrong with massive implications for all concerned. This alcohol is a terrible thing you know!

I have been drunk more times than I care to recall, no matter how pished I've got I've never once had the urge to smash a glass in somebody's face. You can blame alcohol to an extent but this bloke is clearly a nutter and being locked up is the best thing for him

Another great example of 'Gold Standard' reporting.

bigfella wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

solents wrote: "He had denied the charge" “It was the worst moment of my life. I have badly wanted to say sorry to him and his family.” So he denied it but admits that it was "The worst moment" of his life and that he wanted to say sorry. . . So he did meant to do it then and he could not really deny the charge or am I missing a point here?

He may well have been pleading not guilty to the charge, but accepted that he hit him with the glass in his hand. The 'Intent' element being the part in question. ****£d up fight at a wedding gone wrong with massive implications for all concerned. This alcohol is a terrible thing you know!

I have been drunk more times than I care to recall, no matter how pished I've got I've never once had the urge to smash a glass in somebody's face. You can blame alcohol to an extent but this bloke is clearly a nutter and being locked up is the best thing for him

I wouldn't disagree with you.
I am willing to wager that without the consumption of alcohol this incident would not have occured.

sorry to say but he will be out sooner then 2020 as he will prob only serve half the 8 years - so wrong

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Well that was a waste of a suit. It won't fit him when he comes out in 2020.

he will only do 3 and half

solents wrote:
"He had denied the charge"
“It was the worst moment of my life. I have badly wanted to say sorry to him and his family.”

So he denied it but admits that it was "The worst moment" of his life and that he wanted to say sorry. . .

So he did meant to do it then and he could not really deny the charge or am I missing a point here?

he denied the charge of gbh with INTENT. if he didnt INTEND on causing GBH (setting out purposely to commit GBH) then why would he plead guilty?

The clue here lies within the report.
1) Alcohol was involved - A certain factor which contributed with devastating consequences all round. How often do you hear about incidents of glassing when alcohol is involved?? Exactly!
2) Point of law - GBH Section 18 - Intent to wound/harm, GBH Section 20 - Without intent. This charge would have been key as to why the assailant pleaded ' Not Guilty ' His brief would have told him to plead not guilty to the charge as he didn't set out to intentionally cause grevios bodily harm. If they had charged him with a section 20 then no question he would have to plead guilty as it was not in self defence and he admits it was the worst moment of his life. To some that makes no sense but that's how law is written. There are always mitigating circumstances in these situations, possibly there may have been beef between the two in the past which could hae contributed to the ' Intent charge ' who knows. I have seen first hand what happens with alcohol, glasses, people from different backgrounds all mixing together, sometimes it is a lethal mixture, here so proving that argument. But the thing that mystifies me the most is why are more places not using plastic glasses? Lots of clubs use them including bottles, so why aren't they more widely used. Who cares about what you drink from or what it's made from as some people say it tastes different in a glass, the point is public safety. In todays society with all sorts of different stresses and problems, people who drink and are having a bad time of things often get caught up in bad situations, it's a catalyst for ensuing consequence/s.... Think before you drink!