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Council to evict homeless man from multi-storey car park
A HAMPSHIRE council is
taking legal steps to evict
a tramp from its multistorey
car park.
For the last two months the
homeless man has been sleeping
rough in one of the top
floors of the car park at
Eastleigh.
Despite temperatures plummeting
to below zero he has
been regularly kipping down
in the building which is in the
heart of the town centre.
But now the council say it is
time that he moved on.
It is the first time that the council
has had to go to the courts to
move on a vagrant from the
Southampton Road multi-storey.
The legal moves were started
when the council made an application
to a Southampton County
Court judge.
Notices pinned to the doors of
the ground floor and 12th floor car
park levels give details of the
court's decision ordering the man
to quit the building.
If he does not abide with the
order the council can without a
further hearing authorise the
bailiff or High Court enforcement
officer to evict him.
He can apply to the court to stay
the eviction while it decides
whether there is grounds to do
so.
It is understood that the homeless
man, who is believed to be his
thirties, moves into the multistorey
at the end of the day when
most of the town's workers and
shoppers have driven home.
Council officials say there have
been signs that he has been using a
stairwell, near the 12th floor as a
sleeping quarters.
An Eastleigh council spokesman
said: "He has occupied the building
for at least two months. He has
not left the premises and the order
has been served and bailiffs are to
be appointed to carry out the eviction
if he does not voluntarily comply
with the order.
CRISIS, the national charity
which fights homelessness, said
they were shocked to hear that
someone had been sleeping rough
in a multi-storey car park.
The charity's director of policy
and research Duncan Shrubsole
said: "It is a scandal that people
such as this have little choice but
to sleep rough in our society. "
7:09am Tuesday 22nd April 2008
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CommentPosted by: Denzil, Work on 7:23am Tue 22 Apr 08
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.
Posted by: dave, millbrook on 7:47am Tue 22 Apr 08
How many thousands of pounds are being wasted on the court case which could be used to house this person? Still,it's tax payers money so the council don't care!
How many thousands of pounds are being wasted on the court case which could be used to house this person? Still,it's tax payers money so the council don't care!
Posted by: Keith Oftergrass on 8:18am Tue 22 Apr 08
Too bloody right ! There are already far to few parking spaces for cars around without having them occupied by dirty old tramps.
Whatever next, Ambulances full of crusties occupying waterfront car parks ?
Too bloody right ! There are already far to few parking spaces for cars around without having them occupied by dirty old tramps.
Whatever next, Ambulances full of crusties occupying waterfront car parks ?
Posted by: fedup, soton on 9:42am Tue 22 Apr 08
Well said too Nat. I remember trying to put my name down on the council list in Winchester a few years back and was told there would be a 10 year wait as I was a single working man. Yet the less you contribute to society the more you get. If young girls get pregnant it should be up to her parents to pay for it. As for the Polish dont get me started. Just house the bloke.
Well said too Nat. I remember trying to put my name down on the council list in Winchester a few years back and was told there would be a 10 year wait as I was a single working man. Yet the less you contribute to society the more you get. If young girls get pregnant it should be up to her parents to pay for it. As for the Polish dont get me started. Just house the bloke.
Posted by: George on 9:49am Tue 22 Apr 08
Evict him? What's the point? He'll just go back. And again. And again. And again. What are they going to do then? Give him a custodial sentence? I expect that's what he's after, some free bed and board for a bit, and who can blame him? Given the cost of keeping him in prison, isn't it more cost-effective to just - as others have mentioned - house him?
Evict him? What's the point? He'll just go back. And again. And again. And again. What are they going to do then? Give him a custodial sentence? I expect that's what he's after, some free bed and board for a bit, and who can blame him? Given the cost of keeping him in prison, isn't it more cost-effective to just - as others have mentioned - house him?
Posted by: Major Sir Jerry Pending on 10:20am Tue 22 Apr 08
Lots of people feeling sorry for this guy and think the council should house him but I don't any of those same people offering him a bed for the night.
Lots of people feeling sorry for this guy and think the council should house him but I don't any of those same people offering him a bed for the night.
Posted by: JB Soton, Gosport on 10:33am Tue 22 Apr 08
I too agree with comments Natalie has posted. Although this man could be living this way simply because for some reason or the other he has chosen too, there are people out there that do,do that.
I too agree with comments Natalie has posted. Although this man could be living this way simply because for some reason or the other he has chosen too, there are people out there that do,do that.
Posted by: Grammer Police, Southampton on 11:21am Tue 22 Apr 08
I cannot believe CRISIS are "shocked" that someone is sleeping rough in a multistory car park. Have they not been to the multistory car parks in Southampton? I quite often have to step over bundles of people in blankets to get to the stairwell. I think Southampton have got it sorted out now though. There is a high pitched noise in all the stairwells now. Not bad enough to bother anyone passing through, but enough to stop people loitering. Perhaps Eastleigh should think about it.
And I agree with most of the comments above that were this gentleman foreign, or a young girl with a baby, he would have a home and money thrown at him.
I cannot believe CRISIS are "shocked" that someone is sleeping rough in a multistory car park. Have they not been to the multistory car parks in Southampton? I quite often have to step over bundles of people in blankets to get to the stairwell. I think Southampton have got it sorted out now though. There is a high pitched noise in all the stairwells now. Not bad enough to bother anyone passing through, but enough to stop people loitering. Perhaps Eastleigh should think about it.
And I agree with most of the comments above that were this gentleman foreign, or a young girl with a baby, he would have a home and money thrown at him.
Posted by: caterina - what a cruel world, eastleigh on 12:01pm Tue 22 Apr 08
ahhh! bless i was only saying to a friend the other day.. i wonder where this man sleeps at night! I really feel for him. You never see him with a bottle in his hand, he just walks non stop all day around the town collecting little things in his shopping bag, minding his own business. I saw him a couple of weekends ago and bought him a mcdonalds. He was very grateful. I saw him again in the highstreet and as i walked passed i heard a chav say to him infront of his mates " get the f**k away from me, you stink! " that made me see red! and wished karma would come round to that idiot of a lad and make him homeless one day in life, to take back what he said to that poor helpless man! - the homeless man just stood there with a sad face in silence before walking away! - i felt so ashamed to be living in such a cruel society. The council should be helping him, not taking him to court! Poor bloke. Bless him!
ahhh! bless i was only saying to a friend the other day.. i wonder where this man sleeps at night! I really feel for him. You never see him with a bottle in his hand, he just walks non stop all day around the town collecting little things in his shopping bag, minding his own business. I saw him a couple of weekends ago and bought him a mcdonalds. He was very grateful. I saw him again in the highstreet and as i walked passed i heard a chav say to him infront of his mates " get the f**k away from me, you stink! " that made me see red! and wished karma would come round to that idiot of a lad and make him homeless one day in life, to take back what he said to that poor helpless man! - the homeless man just stood there with a sad face in silence before walking away! - i felt so ashamed to be living in such a cruel society. The council should be helping him, not taking him to court! Poor bloke. Bless him!
Posted by: concerned, southampton on 12:02pm Tue 22 Apr 08
[bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] [bold]bold[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold] This poor man is homeless with no-one to help him and by the sounds of this story he bothers nobody as he waits until the car park is empty before he goes in there to gain shelter, as most people have said the council should offer him some form of housing (but they wont).It's just another example of the poor getting poorer!! I think it is a truly awful way to treat a human being if they found an animal the R.S.P.C.A would house or at least shelter it so why should this man be treated as a lower being absolutely discusting.
This poor man is homeless with no-one to help him and by the sounds of this story he bothers nobody as he waits until the car park is empty before he goes in there to gain shelter, as most people have said the council should offer him some form of housing (but they wont).It's just another example of the poor getting poorer!! I think it is a truly awful way to treat a human being if they found an animal the R.S.P.C.A would house or at least shelter it so why should this man be treated as a lower being absolutely discusting.
Posted by: Gemma, southampton on 1:08pm Tue 22 Apr 08
the problem is that in this society you cant get help without an adress - you cant even get an adress without an adress! when you apply to the council to be housed you have to provide one - even the homeless unit will only help you if you are going to be made homeless and not if you already are - its swings and roundabouts! and the main reason no one can offer this man a bed for the night is because the only people who seem to actually care about other human beings are the so called scum who live in high rise flats - i dont see any of the single occupants of the 10 bed houses in chilworth trying to help people do you?
the problem is that in this society you cant get help without an adress - you cant even get an adress without an adress! when you apply to the council to be housed you have to provide one - even the homeless unit will only help you if you are going to be made homeless and not if you already are - its swings and roundabouts! and the main reason no one can offer this man a bed for the night is because the only people who seem to actually care about other human beings are the so called scum who live in high rise flats - i dont see any of the single occupants of the 10 bed houses in chilworth trying to help people do you?
Posted by: Eastleigh dweller, Eastleigh on 1:27pm Tue 22 Apr 08
I know this poor man, his name is adam harris and i used to go to school with him. I can't go in to the reason why his family have disowned him but he really does not have anywhere to go. the council should be ashamed
I know this poor man, his name is adam harris and i used to go to school with him. I can't go in to the reason why his family have disowned him but he really does not have anywhere to go. the council should be ashamed
Posted by: edna, eastleigh on 2:29pm Tue 22 Apr 08
whatever the reason, he needs help what a world we live in seems the true british cant get nothing but the poles ect ect ect need i go on get everything!!!! so wrong
whatever the reason, he needs help what a world we live in seems the true british cant get nothing but the poles ect ect ect need i go on get everything!!!! so wrong
Posted by: anon on 2:32pm Tue 22 Apr 08
PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A HEART AND YOUR IN EASTLEIGH BUY THIS MAN SOMETHING TO EAT AND DRINK,AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOUR NOT THE ONE SLEEPING ROUGH.IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE,.
PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A HEART AND YOUR IN EASTLEIGH BUY THIS MAN SOMETHING TO EAT AND DRINK,AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOUR NOT THE ONE SLEEPING ROUGH.IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE,.
Posted by: LORD LUCAN, ANOTHER LEVEL on 3:33pm Tue 22 Apr 08
i assume he pays like other user's of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER
i assume he pays like other user's of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER
Posted by: Laura, A nice house on 4:06pm Tue 22 Apr 08
as sad as it is that he's on the street, he got himself into that situation in the first place! even if he was disowned by family or got himself into trouble, no matter what the circumstances he had choices and picked the wrong one!! if he wanted help he could find it if he tried hard enough! the multi storey is a car park not a homeless shelter
as sad as it is that he's on the street, he got himself into that situation in the first place! even if he was disowned by family or got himself into trouble, no matter what the circumstances he had choices and picked the wrong one!! if he wanted help he could find it if he tried hard enough! the multi storey is a car park not a homeless shelter
Posted by: Sophia, Southampton on 4:19pm Tue 22 Apr 08
this seems abit unfair to me becuase this homeless guy isn't harming anyone or vandilising the car park. He waits until the car parkers have left and just sleeps there! It's like the council are saying, 'we have no control over yobs and gangs but look what we CAN control'. It's totally backwards, like most things the goverment or justice system have a rule over! Does anyone agree with me?
this seems abit unfair to me becuase this homeless guy isn't harming anyone or vandilising the car park. He waits until the car parkers have left and just sleeps there! It's like the council are saying, 'we have no control over yobs and gangs but look what we CAN control'. It's totally backwards, like most things the goverment or justice system have a rule over! Does anyone agree with me?
Posted by: lowe and behold, st marys hotseat on 4:27pm Tue 22 Apr 08
may be he could find a lady. LADY AND THE TRAMP HA HA HA ANOTHER VICTIM OF THE CREDIT CRUNCH THESE STORIES ARE BECOMEING EVER TO COMMON LATELY
may be he could find a lady. LADY AND THE TRAMP HA HA HA ANOTHER VICTIM OF THE CREDIT CRUNCH THESE STORIES ARE BECOMEING EVER TO COMMON LATELY
Posted by: George on 4:35pm Tue 22 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Major Sir Jerry Pending[/bold] wrote:
Lots of people feeling sorry for this guy and think the council should
house him but I don't any of those same people offering him a bed for
the night.[/quote] Irrelevant. It's not our duty to house him ourselves, but we [bold]do[/bold] pay into a system which we hope will help those less fortunate than us
Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
Lots of people feeling sorry for this guy and think the council should
house him but I don't any of those same people offering him a bed for
the night.
Irrelevant. It's not our duty to house him ourselves, but we
do pay into a system which we hope will help those less fortunate than us
Posted by: wiggy, Andover on 4:39pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Yes Sophia I do agree.
We should give those in distress a chance, for a little help or love and understanding goes along way sometimes, I hope he gets the help he so needs.
Yes Sophia I do agree.
We should give those in distress a chance, for a little help or love and understanding goes along way sometimes, I hope he gets the help he so needs.
Posted by: Sarah Fisher, Romsey on 5:18pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Yes, instead of just turfing this man away, give him a home. there are enough council properties with tennents who don't need the help!! and more than enough empty ones too
Yes, instead of just turfing this man away, give him a home. there are enough council properties with tennents who don't need the help!! and more than enough empty ones too
Posted by: Boatman, Marchwood on 5:44pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Please stop these racist comments about Poles and housing. It is a myth. From the Guardian April 19:-
"It has been a bad week for the myth-makers who demonise the migrants who come to our shores for a better life and to build Britain. "They come here to take our social housing". Oh no they don't! Last week's welcome report by the Commission on Equality and Human Rights and the Local Government Association showed no evidence that social housing allocation favoured foreign migrants over UK citizens. "They come over here and commit more crime." Oh no they don't! This week's report by two chief constables on behalf of the Association of Chief Police Officers found no evidence that crime is more prevalent among east Europeans than other groups (Reports, April 16 and 18). Will that end tabloid tales like, I kid thee not, "they're coming over here to displace our tramps sleeping in doorways"? Oh no it won't. But at least the public now knows the truth."
Please stop these racist comments about Poles and housing. It is a myth. From the Guardian April 19:-
"It has been a bad week for the myth-makers who demonise the migrants who come to our shores for a better life and to build Britain. "They come here to take our social housing". Oh no they don't! Last week's welcome report by the Commission on Equality and Human Rights and the Local Government Association showed no evidence that social housing allocation favoured foreign migrants over UK citizens. "They come over here and commit more crime." Oh no they don't! This week's report by two chief constables on behalf of the Association of Chief Police Officers found no evidence that crime is more prevalent among east Europeans than other groups (Reports, April 16 and 18). Will that end tabloid tales like, I kid thee not, "they're coming over here to displace our tramps sleeping in doorways"? Oh no it won't. But at least the public now knows the truth."
Posted by: polish single man, 5 bed house ha ha on 6:00pm Tue 22 Apr 08
its easy just come in on a boat or truck and then you can have a five bed house and all the benefits so please stop all the winges people
its easy just come in on a boat or truck and then you can have a five bed house and all the benefits so please stop all the winges people
Posted by: Ivor Penthouse, beastleigh on 6:33pm Tue 22 Apr 08
If he has a parking ticket pinned on him then there's no problem, else clamp him!
If he has a parking ticket pinned on him then there's no problem, else clamp him!
Posted by: jaime, millbrook on 6:35pm Tue 22 Apr 08
he obviously likes it there why dont they give him a night job there as security man or night cleaner stop these youngsters trashing the cars an leaving beer bottles there
he obviously likes it there why dont they give him a night job there as security man or night cleaner stop these youngsters trashing the cars an leaving beer bottles there
Posted by: keith, test valley, home of GORDON RAMSEYS CROCS on 7:07pm Tue 22 Apr 08
. I think Southampton have got it sorted out now though. There is a high pitched noise in all the stairwells now. Not bad enough to bother anyone passing through, but enough to stop people loitering.AT LAST,! I NOW KNOW WHERE I CAN CAN SHIFT ALL THOSE EAR PLUGS THAT I GOT FROM THE £1 SHOP. SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A SMALL PROFIT AS WELL.
. I think Southampton have got it sorted out now though. There is a high pitched noise in all the stairwells now. Not bad enough to bother anyone passing through, but enough to stop people loitering.AT LAST,! I NOW KNOW WHERE I CAN CAN SHIFT ALL THOSE EAR PLUGS THAT I GOT FROM THE £1 SHOP. SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A SMALL PROFIT AS WELL.
Posted by: noah waye, chilworth on 7:29pm Tue 22 Apr 08
"It is a scandal that people such as this have little choice but to sleep rough in our society. " No it's a scandal that a man in his thirties can't take care of himself. Is he as willing to work as others, including immigrants? If he can walk around Eastleigh all day presumably he is relatively fit. Should we really be encouraging people not to take responsibility for their own position in life by giving them housing that others have to work for?
7:09am today
"It is a scandal that people such as this have little choice but to sleep rough in our society. " No it's a scandal that a man in his thirties can't take care of himself. Is he as willing to work as others, including immigrants? If he can walk around Eastleigh all day presumably he is relatively fit. Should we really be encouraging people not to take responsibility for their own position in life by giving them housing that others have to work for?
7:09am today
Posted by: Ian, bitterne park on 8:16pm Tue 22 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.[/quote] They could live next to you then Denzil. Whether its Romsey, Chilworth or where ever you put your home , you hillbilly, redneck, meths drinking Tory!!
Denzil wrote:
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.
They could live next to you then Denzil. Whether its Romsey, Chilworth or where ever you put your home , you hillbilly, redneck, meths drinking Tory!!
Posted by: Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa on 2:23am Wed 23 Apr 08
Help me understand this situation here - A man without a home for whatever reason sleeps in a stairwell of a public car park which he may have contributed to in taxes paid in the past. I evicted to where???? The only thing he has where he can sleep without being attacked by yobs he is being evicted from?
He should get a collar and see how he stands when the RSPCA are engaged or maybe he could plead asylum then he gets a five bed home in town and all expenses paid.
He needs all the luck he can get and it isnt coming from within the borders of the UK clearly
Help me understand this situation here - A man without a home for whatever reason sleeps in a stairwell of a public car park which he may have contributed to in taxes paid in the past. I evicted to where???? The only thing he has where he can sleep without being attacked by yobs he is being evicted from?
He should get a collar and see how he stands when the RSPCA are engaged or maybe he could plead asylum then he gets a five bed home in town and all expenses paid.
He needs all the luck he can get and it isnt coming from within the borders of the UK clearly
Posted by: Rowley Birkin QC on 4:00pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Why doesn't he buy a parking ticket, stick it to his head and sleep in a parking space.
Why doesn't he buy a parking ticket, stick it to his head and sleep in a parking space.
Posted by: outsider, romsey on 4:20pm Wed 23 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.[/quote] I'll go along with that......
Denzil wrote:
Eastleigh council should house the tramp. They manage to house enough single mums and chav scum in tracksuits.
I'll go along with that......
Posted by: Natalie, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh on 9:55am Thu 24 Apr 08
After having my last comment deleted, for some unknown reason I thought I would post again. As I said before, I feel for this man. I wish him all the luck, Although with the goverment that we have here- I doubt it will happen. Maybe he should find himself a young, single, mum to be who's 15 years old and enjoys drinking Lambrini on a Friday night- Maybe then. Just Maybe, they would house him. I see him quite often, and abuse is often shouted at him. His circumstances are unknown, whether intentionally or not intentionally he is homeless- The council have a right to house homeless people. So why don't they get their arses into gear and do it! This man clearly needs help, and no one is willing to give it to him. Medical checks need to be run etc on him, and I do not object to paying my taxes for this! As being homeless, and in this bloody cold weather he's going to need some checks. I'd rather spend my taxes on this, then spend it on the "Lasers" that are proposed to go into southampton etc. Good luck to him.
After having my last comment deleted, for some unknown reason I thought I would post again. As I said before, I feel for this man. I wish him all the luck, Although with the goverment that we have here- I doubt it will happen. Maybe he should find himself a young, single, mum to be who's 15 years old and enjoys drinking Lambrini on a Friday night- Maybe then. Just Maybe, they would house him. I see him quite often, and abuse is often shouted at him. His circumstances are unknown, whether intentionally or not intentionally he is homeless- The council have a right to house homeless people. So why don't they get their arses into gear and do it! This man clearly needs help, and no one is willing to give it to him. Medical checks need to be run etc on him, and I do not object to paying my taxes for this! As being homeless, and in this bloody cold weather he's going to need some checks. I'd rather spend my taxes on this, then spend it on the "Lasers" that are proposed to go into southampton etc. Good luck to him.
Posted by: Natalie, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh on 9:59am Thu 24 Apr 08
Oh, and one more thing. If enough people manage to get council houses, and neglect them by the use of drink and drugs. (Prime example if you drive down Nightingale Road, Eastleigh) Then why can't they give him a place like this? I'm sure he needs this more then what the druggies that abused this house in question did.
Oh, and one more thing. If enough people manage to get council houses, and neglect them by the use of drink and drugs. (Prime example if you drive down Nightingale Road, Eastleigh) Then why can't they give him a place like this? I'm sure he needs this more then what the druggies that abused this house in question did.
Posted by: Nutstrangler on 10:49am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]LORD LUCAN[/bold] wrote:
i assume he pays like other user\'s of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER[/quote] You really are a knob, aren't you.
LORD LUCAN wrote:
i assume he pays like other user\'s of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER
You really are a knob, aren't you.
Posted by: Natalie, Bishopstoke, Eastleigh on 11:15am Thu 24 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Nutstrangler[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]LORD LUCAN[/bold] wrote: i assume he pays like other user\'s of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER[/quote] You really are a knob, aren't you.[/quote] Agreed.
Nutstrangler wrote:
LORD LUCAN wrote: i assume he pays like other user\'s of the car park. EVICT HIM !LOSER
You really are a knob, aren't you.
Agreed.
Posted by: caterina, eastleigh on 2:39pm Wed 30 Apr 08
this story annoyed me so much, i rang the mayor and the council - poor man!
this story annoyed me so much, i rang the mayor and the council - poor man!
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