Bus roof ripped off after crashing into railway bridge in Portchester

Bus roof ripped off after crashing into railway bridge

The bus after its roof was ripped off by a bridge in Portchester.

UPDATED: Bus has roof ripped off after hitting railway bridge. Image HFRS

The bus following the crash with the bridge in Portchester.

UPDATED: Bus has roof ripped off after hitting railway bridge

UPDATED: Bus has roof ripped off after hitting railway bridge

UPDATED: Bus has roof ripped off after hitting railway bridge

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A bus has had its roof torn off after hitting a railway bridge in Hampshire.

The accident at Portchester Railway station this morning is the second time in five months a bus has hit the bridge.

Emergency services attended the scene and Station Road was closed.

Fire crews were called to the incident on Hill Road, in Portchester, just after 9.35am this morning.

A Hampshire Fire and Rescue Service spokeswoman said the bus was empty apart from the driver as it was not in service at the time.

The 45-year-old driver has been given first aid and oxygen by firefighters at the scene.

Fire engines, three from Cosham, one from Portchester and one from Fareham, werer called to the incident.

Passenger Victoria Mullins was on a train travelling from Southampton Central to London Victoria via Portchester Station.

She said: “We slowed to a halt and the train guard advised that we were to be delayed due to 'a road vehicle striking the railway bridge'.

“We were held at Portchester Station and I could see the station guard on the phone whilst looking down towards the bus stuck under the bridge.”

She said fire engines appeared to be trying to winch the bus out.

When the train was given the all clear to proceed she said she could see that “the bus roof had been totally ripped off, revealing the upper deck seats completely”.

Police said they had been called to reports of a First double decker bus colliding with the bridge at Portchester Station, with witnesses saying it had lost its roof.

Road closures have been put in place at Station Road North at the junction of Kelvin Road and also the crossway with Station Road.

Recovery is being arranged for the vehicle.

A Network Rail spokesman said there was a reduced service on the line for around half an hour while a precautionary check was carried out but there were no concerns about the structural safety of the bridge, which carries the railway line over the road.

As a result trains between Southampton Central station and Portsmouth Harbour and Havant could be delayed by up to 30 minutes while the service resumes normally.

It comes just five months after a similar incident happened at the bridge.

In September an out-of-service First Group bus was being driven on the A27 at Portchester when it too got stuck under the bridge.

No one was hurt in the crash which which lead to the road being shut and train services suspended.

Network Rail have already carried out an inspection of the bridge and deemed it to be safe following the crash.

Rail services are now free to use the line at full speed.

A First Hampshire and Dorset spokesperson said the exact circumstances of the collision were as yet unclear but were being thoroughly investigated. "Thankfully the vehicle was not in service at the time of the incident, so while the bus has been badly damaged there were no recorded injuries as a result of the collision,” she said.

"We are as concerned by this incident as we suspect other local people will be. The exact cause of it is being investigated and the appropriate action will be taken as a result.

“It is too early to speculate as to what the outcome of the investigation will be. "In relation to the previous incident, the cause of that was determined to be human error and the appropriate action was taken as a result.

"As a company we take the safety of our staff, customers and other road users extremely seriously.

“Incidents such as this are rare and it is unusual for two similar incidents to happen in the same place."

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10:34am Mon 28 Jan 13

freefinker says...

"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident? freefinker
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10:42am Mon 28 Jan 13

smiler52 says...

freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
maybe but the trains firms are reporting delays Owing to a vehicle striking a bridge between Fareham and Cosham
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]maybe but the trains firms are reporting delays Owing to a vehicle striking a bridge between Fareham and Cosham smiler52
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10:43am Mon 28 Jan 13

Eric_Cartman says...

freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
It says 'similar incident'.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]It says 'similar incident'. Eric_Cartman
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11:42am Mon 28 Jan 13

freefinker says...

Eric_Cartman wrote:
freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
It says 'similar incident'.
.. ah, it does now, but it didn't previously.
[quote][p][bold]Eric_Cartman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]It says 'similar incident'.[/p][/quote].. ah, it does now, but it didn't previously. freefinker
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11:48am Mon 28 Jan 13

kingnotail says...

Good old First bus, always striving for the worst possible levels of service.
Good old First bus, always striving for the worst possible levels of service. kingnotail
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11:52am Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

It must be a bugger when these bridges keep lowering themselves. How on earth can someone forget that they are driving a double decker bus?
It must be a bugger when these bridges keep lowering themselves. How on earth can someone forget that they are driving a double decker bus? Stillness
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11:53am Mon 28 Jan 13

spotburst says...

Didn't Roger Moore do this in a Bond film?
Didn't Roger Moore do this in a Bond film? spotburst
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12:14pm Mon 28 Jan 13

madge731933 says...

Sorry but he should loose his job! He could of killed passengers!
Sorry but he should loose his job! He could of killed passengers! madge731933
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12:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13

AndyAndrews says...

No excuse for these incidents whatsoever!
No excuse for these incidents whatsoever! AndyAndrews
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12:23pm Mon 28 Jan 13

derek james says...

some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious derek james
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12:29pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life? Stillness
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12:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13

derek james says...

Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life?[/p][/quote]trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal derek james
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12:33pm Mon 28 Jan 13

mack chinnon says...

Well Portsmouth F.C. wont be needing it after Friday.
Well Portsmouth F.C. wont be needing it after Friday. mack chinnon
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12:34pm Mon 28 Jan 13

S Pance says...

the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?
the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways? S Pance
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12:34pm Mon 28 Jan 13

-stiv- says...

freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
Quantum entanglement?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]Quantum entanglement? -stiv-
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12:46pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

derek james wrote:
Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal
If you had the intelligence of an amoeba you would have noticed in the photograph that the height is also shown in metres. I think that perhaps you should spend a bit more time on your own education. Then again maybe you know a lost cause when you see one.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life?[/p][/quote]trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal[/p][/quote]If you had the intelligence of an amoeba you would have noticed in the photograph that the height is also shown in metres. I think that perhaps you should spend a bit more time on your own education. Then again maybe you know a lost cause when you see one. Stillness
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12:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Hampshire Corn and Bread says...

-stiv- wrote:
freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
Quantum entanglement?
Ouch, just Wiki'd Quantum entanglement & now my brain hurts. Thanks though; very interesting.
[quote][p][bold]-stiv-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]Quantum entanglement?[/p][/quote]Ouch, just Wiki'd Quantum entanglement & now my brain hurts. Thanks though; very interesting. Hampshire Corn and Bread
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1:13pm Mon 28 Jan 13

bernard7 says...

What's the speed limit down there? Must have been going quite quick to rip pretty much the whole roof off? Unless it does just come off that easily!
What's the speed limit down there? Must have been going quite quick to rip pretty much the whole roof off? Unless it does just come off that easily! bernard7
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1:17pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Missdoyle says...

Bus routes are designed to avoid such low bridges had the same problem in southampton when an Eastern European driver drove into a low bridge due to going wrong on his bus route and taking next turning causing him to crash into bridge.. Not saying its a race issue but first bus need to hire people who have a vast knowledge of the areas and not just the routes utter joke worst bus company for bus service
Bus routes are designed to avoid such low bridges had the same problem in southampton when an Eastern European driver drove into a low bridge due to going wrong on his bus route and taking next turning causing him to crash into bridge.. Not saying its a race issue but first bus need to hire people who have a vast knowledge of the areas and not just the routes utter joke worst bus company for bus service Missdoyle
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1:27pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Linesman says...

spotburst wrote:
Didn't Roger Moore do this in a Bond film?
Ducking under Wayne Bridge?
[quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: Didn't Roger Moore do this in a Bond film?[/p][/quote]Ducking under Wayne Bridge? Linesman
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1:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Linesman says...

derek james wrote:
Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal
In that case, you may start by commencing the sentence with a capital letter, and a couple of commas would not go amiss, plus a fullstop at the end.

That is my attempt to aducate an ignoramus like yourself.

Have a nice day, and thank you for reading the Daily Echo.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life?[/p][/quote]trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal[/p][/quote]In that case, you may start by commencing the sentence with a capital letter, and a couple of commas would not go amiss, plus a fullstop at the end. That is my attempt to aducate an ignoramus like yourself. Have a nice day, and thank you for reading the Daily Echo. Linesman
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1:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Linesman says...

Linesman wrote:
derek james wrote:
Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal
In that case, you may start by commencing the sentence with a capital letter, and a couple of commas would not go amiss, plus a fullstop at the end.

That is my attempt to aducate an ignoramus like yourself.

Have a nice day, and thank you for reading the Daily Echo.
I have spelt one word incorrectly, so that you can show everyone that can make a smartarse comment.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life?[/p][/quote]trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal[/p][/quote]In that case, you may start by commencing the sentence with a capital letter, and a couple of commas would not go amiss, plus a fullstop at the end. That is my attempt to aducate an ignoramus like yourself. Have a nice day, and thank you for reading the Daily Echo.[/p][/quote]I have spelt one word incorrectly, so that you can show everyone that can make a smartarse comment. Linesman
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1:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13

insane saint says...

anyone for an open top bus parade around Pompey on Friday...
anyone for an open top bus parade around Pompey on Friday... insane saint
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1:53pm Mon 28 Jan 13

HerbertC says...

Doesn't really surprise me. In Southampton, "out of service" First buses regularly ignore 7.5T limits on roads which they use as shortcuts to the new bus depot. My understanding is that the 7.5T exemption for public service vehicles was for when they were on scheduled routes, not for providing short cuts back to base when the bus is empty. I assume First don't give any guidelines to their drivers about routes when they're not in service.
Doesn't really surprise me. In Southampton, "out of service" First buses regularly ignore 7.5T limits on roads which they use as shortcuts to the new bus depot. My understanding is that the 7.5T exemption for public service vehicles was for when they were on scheduled routes, not for providing short cuts back to base when the bus is empty. I assume First don't give any guidelines to their drivers about routes when they're not in service. HerbertC
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2:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13

bazzeroz says...

Name and shame this idiot! Professional driver my a.rse.
Name and shame this idiot! Professional driver my a.rse. bazzeroz
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2:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Brite Spark says...

This is actually so stupid it isn't funny at all. If the upper deck had been loaded with passengers they would have been decapitated, and for the same company to make the same mistake twice it's quite sickening. It's not just buses that hit this bridge, trucks often get stuck under it, but surely to God a bus driver shouldn't think that he could get under there? I hope he was breathalysed, next time there could be kids upstairs.
This is actually so stupid it isn't funny at all. If the upper deck had been loaded with passengers they would have been decapitated, and for the same company to make the same mistake twice it's quite sickening. It's not just buses that hit this bridge, trucks often get stuck under it, but surely to God a bus driver shouldn't think that he could get under there? I hope he was breathalysed, next time there could be kids upstairs. Brite Spark
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3:16pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Mary80 says...

Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody
Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody Mary80
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3:45pm Mon 28 Jan 13

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

FIRST ! Got to be the worst or last bus company in the world !!
FIRST ! Got to be the worst or last bus company in the world !! CHARLIE TAYLOR
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3:46pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Niel says...

S Pance wrote:
the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?
To ASSume in this case would prove the rule it makes an **** of you. The footbridge over the railway provides that viewpoint...
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?[/p][/quote]To ASSume in this case would prove the rule it makes an **** of you. The footbridge over the railway provides that viewpoint... Niel
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3:46pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

Mary80 wrote:
Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody
I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody[/p][/quote]I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness. Stillness
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4:09pm Mon 28 Jan 13

loonaloop says...

This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.
This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP. loonaloop
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4:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Brite Spark says...

Would he actually NEED a height restriction sign??? It's totally obvious to anyone with the tiniest bit of common sense that one couldn't fit a double decker bus under there (though he tried his best). The bus must be a good 5 ft too high to go under that bridge, square pegs and round holes springs to mind.
Would he actually NEED a height restriction sign??? It's totally obvious to anyone with the tiniest bit of common sense that one couldn't fit a double decker bus under there (though he tried his best). The bus must be a good 5 ft too high to go under that bridge, square pegs and round holes springs to mind. Brite Spark
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4:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13

nedscrumpo says...

fire crews must be hissed off that they didn't have a roof to cut off!
fire crews must be hissed off that they didn't have a roof to cut off! nedscrumpo
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5:07pm Mon 28 Jan 13

derek james says...

Stillness wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody
I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness.
if he took his test in eastern europe there is probably no such thing
get a life stillness!
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody[/p][/quote]I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness.[/p][/quote]if he took his test in eastern europe there is probably no such thing get a life stillness! derek james
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5:27pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Cant drive send the chancers back home!
Cant drive send the chancers back home! Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:37pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Donald2000 says...

madge731933 wrote:
Sorry but he should loose his job! He could of killed passengers!
Which part of "There were no passengers on board" did you fail to understand?
[quote][p][bold]madge731933[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he should loose his job! He could of killed passengers![/p][/quote]Which part of "There were no passengers on board" did you fail to understand? Donald2000
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6:16pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

derek james wrote:
Stillness wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody
I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness.
if he took his test in eastern europe there is probably no such thing
get a life stillness!
You poor sad old person. Do you really still think of Europe as "that place over there"? My local pub is run by a couple from "Eastern Europe" and at least they know about capital letters and punctuation. They have a far better grasp of the English language than you do. Then again I guess that they have an unfair advantage over you as they have each got a brain with more than one working cell. Go find a time machine and travel back 30 years of so. It's the only way you will ever be happy.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Drivers should be made aware of bridges they cant go under he's so lucky he didnt kill somebody[/p][/quote]I think you may find that there is something in the driving test about hazard awareness.[/p][/quote]if he took his test in eastern europe there is probably no such thing get a life stillness![/p][/quote]You poor sad old person. Do you really still think of Europe as "that place over there"? My local pub is run by a couple from "Eastern Europe" and at least they know about capital letters and punctuation. They have a far better grasp of the English language than you do. Then again I guess that they have an unfair advantage over you as they have each got a brain with more than one working cell. Go find a time machine and travel back 30 years of so. It's the only way you will ever be happy. Stillness
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6:23pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Hove Ex-Pat says...

derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
But this bridge is clearly marked in metric as well as feet & inches. This bridge is nearly three feet lower than the height of the bus. If they hit it a third time do they get to keep the bridge?
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]But this bridge is clearly marked in metric as well as feet & inches. This bridge is nearly three feet lower than the height of the bus. If they hit it a third time do they get to keep the bridge? Hove Ex-Pat
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6:29pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Hove Ex-Pat says...

loonaloop wrote:
This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.
The bus is only 14' 6", NOT 21 foot high.
The bridge is 11' 9" NOT 9 foot.
[quote][p][bold]loonaloop[/bold] wrote: This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.[/p][/quote]The bus is only 14' 6", NOT 21 foot high. The bridge is 11' 9" NOT 9 foot. Hove Ex-Pat
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6:29pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

Hove Ex-Pat wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
But this bridge is clearly marked in metric as well as feet & inches. This bridge is nearly three feet lower than the height of the bus. If they hit it a third time do they get to keep the bridge?
Save your keyboard Hove. derek (with a small "d") has trouble with English.
[quote][p][bold]Hove Ex-Pat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]But this bridge is clearly marked in metric as well as feet & inches. This bridge is nearly three feet lower than the height of the bus. If they hit it a third time do they get to keep the bridge?[/p][/quote]Save your keyboard Hove. derek (with a small "d") has trouble with English. Stillness
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7:38pm Mon 28 Jan 13

bullsbags says...

Butler must have been driving.
Blakey won't be a happy bunny
Butler must have been driving. Blakey won't be a happy bunny bullsbags
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7:57pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Lord Ikea says...

What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason.
What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason. Lord Ikea
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8:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Stillness says...

S Pance wrote:
the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?
What is a "pricture"?
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?[/p][/quote]What is a "pricture"? Stillness
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8:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13

freefinker says...

-stiv- wrote:
freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
Quantum entanglement?
Excellent, virtual brownie point.
[quote][p][bold]-stiv-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]Quantum entanglement?[/p][/quote]Excellent, virtual brownie point. freefinker
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9:16pm Mon 28 Jan 13

derek james says...

Stillness wrote:
S Pance wrote:
the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?
What is a "pricture"?
a pricture is you stillness, only with a k not a cture on the end and for your information my wife is east european, i have been to russia, lithuania , czech republic, bulgaria and poland so i've nothing against east europeans, in fact i prefer them to shall we say uk people.i have another theory they don't have double deckers in eastern europe so they probably forget and think they're at home.anyway i have wasted enough of my valuable time conversing with a moron so i shall not be posting any more today.i do know when o use capital letters but i do not have the time to press the key
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: the prictures taken from the bridge itself, I assume the photographer had permission to be trespassing on the railways?[/p][/quote]What is a "pricture"?[/p][/quote]a pricture is you stillness, only with a k not a cture on the end and for your information my wife is east european, i have been to russia, lithuania , czech republic, bulgaria and poland so i've nothing against east europeans, in fact i prefer them to shall we say uk people.i have another theory they don't have double deckers in eastern europe so they probably forget and think they're at home.anyway i have wasted enough of my valuable time conversing with a moron so i shall not be posting any more today.i do know when o use capital letters but i do not have the time to press the key derek james
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9:24pm Mon 28 Jan 13

dolomiteman says...

Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
Stillness wrote:
derek james wrote:
some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious
Ever thought of finding yourself a life?
trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal
If you had the intelligence of an amoeba you would have noticed in the photograph that the height is also shown in metres. I think that perhaps you should spend a bit more time on your own education. Then again maybe you know a lost cause when you see one.
Not only that but the height warning in the bus cab will also be in both and why the racist slur when tehd river has not been named
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: some of these are caused by the drivers not being able to read the height restriction signs (in feet?) , throw in some east european bus drivers and it becomes obvious[/p][/quote]Ever thought of finding yourself a life?[/p][/quote]trying to educate ingnoramuses like yourself is my goal[/p][/quote]If you had the intelligence of an amoeba you would have noticed in the photograph that the height is also shown in metres. I think that perhaps you should spend a bit more time on your own education. Then again maybe you know a lost cause when you see one.[/p][/quote]Not only that but the height warning in the bus cab will also be in both and why the racist slur when tehd river has not been named dolomiteman
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9:33pm Mon 28 Jan 13

dolomiteman says...

HerbertC wrote:
Doesn't really surprise me. In Southampton, "out of service" First buses regularly ignore 7.5T limits on roads which they use as shortcuts to the new bus depot. My understanding is that the 7.5T exemption for public service vehicles was for when they were on scheduled routes, not for providing short cuts back to base when the bus is empty. I assume First don't give any guidelines to their drivers about routes when they're not in service.
Weight limits do not apply to buses unless it is a weak bridge limit. and for your information a double decker when unladen weighs......... 7.5T.

If buses did exceed that weight limit how would 'not in service' buses get to their routes start point?
If you have a problem with buses using you road as a rat rn then contact the bus operator and for the record no I'm not bus driver with any local operator.
[quote][p][bold]HerbertC[/bold] wrote: Doesn't really surprise me. In Southampton, "out of service" First buses regularly ignore 7.5T limits on roads which they use as shortcuts to the new bus depot. My understanding is that the 7.5T exemption for public service vehicles was for when they were on scheduled routes, not for providing short cuts back to base when the bus is empty. I assume First don't give any guidelines to their drivers about routes when they're not in service.[/p][/quote]Weight limits do not apply to buses unless it is a weak bridge limit. and for your information a double decker when unladen weighs......... 7.5T. If buses did exceed that weight limit how would 'not in service' buses get to their routes start point? If you have a problem with buses using you road as a rat rn then contact the bus operator and for the record no I'm not bus driver with any local operator. dolomiteman
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9:39pm Mon 28 Jan 13

hedge end bob says...

Lord Ikea wrote:
What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason.
THAT.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason.[/p][/quote]THAT. hedge end bob
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10:50pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Donald2000 says...

Lord Ikea wrote:
What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason.
The height and width limit are specified within the cab of every PCV. As a qualified driver you are required to know both each and every time you drive, so no, there is no reason for crashing a 14ft6in vehicle into a 11ft9in bridge.

The driver concerned did not ask himself the fundamental question about whether or not the said vehicle would fit under the bridge.

Either way I would hazard a guess that he is a candidate for the Jobcentre quite soon.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: What if this poor driver spends his whole working life on this route, day in and day out, but in a single decker. Then one day his bus will not start and the only bus in the yard is a double decker. It is the same licence to drive both. Of course the single decker fits under the bridge day in and day out. Today, however, he is in a rush because of the breakdown and crash. No excuse of course, but a probable reason.[/p][/quote]The height and width limit are specified within the cab of every PCV. As a qualified driver you are required to know both each and every time you drive, so no, there is no reason for crashing a 14ft6in vehicle into a 11ft9in bridge. The driver concerned did not ask himself the fundamental question about whether or not the said vehicle would fit under the bridge. Either way I would hazard a guess that he is a candidate for the Jobcentre quite soon. Donald2000
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11:03pm Mon 28 Jan 13

dolomiteman says...

loonaloop wrote:
This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.
A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition?
I
[quote][p][bold]loonaloop[/bold] wrote: This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.[/p][/quote]A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition? I dolomiteman
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12:28am Tue 29 Jan 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

dolomiteman wrote:
loonaloop wrote:
This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.
A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition?
I
Must be talking about the triple decker that featured in Harry Potter.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loonaloop[/bold] wrote: This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.[/p][/quote]A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition? I[/p][/quote]Must be talking about the triple decker that featured in Harry Potter. Ginger_cyclist
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12:40am Tue 29 Jan 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

bernard7 wrote:
What's the speed limit down there? Must have been going quite quick to rip pretty much the whole roof off? Unless it does just come off that easily!
The "pillars" that hold the roof up are at most made of 3mm thick sheet metal, the corners are a bit thicker to add strength and to stop the roof moving, it's also the corners that give the main support, that thin sheet metal and glass will easily peel off if it hits a large, low and heavy, immovable object such as a low bridge, though why the driver didn't stop as soon as he heard and felt the initial impact is beyond me because what if someone was behind him not knowing the bus wouldn't fit?
[quote][p][bold]bernard7[/bold] wrote: What's the speed limit down there? Must have been going quite quick to rip pretty much the whole roof off? Unless it does just come off that easily![/p][/quote]The "pillars" that hold the roof up are at most made of 3mm thick sheet metal, the corners are a bit thicker to add strength and to stop the roof moving, it's also the corners that give the main support, that thin sheet metal and glass will easily peel off if it hits a large, low and heavy, immovable object such as a low bridge, though why the driver didn't stop as soon as he heard and felt the initial impact is beyond me because what if someone was behind him not knowing the bus wouldn't fit? Ginger_cyclist
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7:27am Tue 29 Jan 13

bustard says...

freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?
There are far too many of these extremely rare incidents......
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]There are far too many of these extremely rare incidents...... bustard
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7:33am Tue 29 Jan 13

bustard says...

dolomiteman wrote:
loonaloop wrote: This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.
A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition? I
There was a 21foot tall bus in a Harry Potter film...... IGMC. :o)
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loonaloop[/bold] wrote: This beggars belief how, how, how would a trained bus driver be so dim as to not be aware that a 21 foot tall vehicle cannot pass under a 9 foot bridge. (shakes head in disbelief) He should be a MP.[/p][/quote]A 21 foot tall vehicle, bloody hell most bus are 14'6" or thereabouts. I have never seen a 21 foot tall bus was it a special edition? I[/p][/quote]There was a 21foot tall bus in a Harry Potter film...... IGMC. :o) bustard
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9:40am Tue 29 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I expect the Company to be ruthless with the driver?
I expect the Company to be ruthless with the driver? OSPREYSAINT
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11:09am Tue 29 Jan 13

andyp44 says...

freefinker wrote:
"It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge."

Er? Same incident?
Its alright Firstbus will probably give them a nice new bus and send the rubbish to Dorset as a single decker.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: "It comes just five months after the same incident happened at the bridge." Er? Same incident?[/p][/quote]Its alright Firstbus will probably give them a nice new bus and send the rubbish to Dorset as a single decker. andyp44
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11:25am Tue 29 Jan 13

Whiteley Man says...

It's reported elsewhere on another news website that despite people waving at the driver to stop and people beeping their horns at him, he actually accelerated towards the bridge. It makes you wonder whether it was deliberate.
It's reported elsewhere on another news website that despite people waving at the driver to stop and people beeping their horns at him, he actually accelerated towards the bridge. It makes you wonder whether it was deliberate. Whiteley Man
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4:34pm Tue 29 Jan 13

dolomiteman says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I expect the Company to be ruthless with the driver?
They will have no choice other to sack him, stricking a bridge in this manner is dangerous driving (the bridge was well signed and there would be height warning signs in the cab) so he will receive a driving ban if found guilty. when his ban is served no bus company will employ him due to the perceived increased insurance risk.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: I expect the Company to be ruthless with the driver?[/p][/quote]They will have no choice other to sack him, stricking a bridge in this manner is dangerous driving (the bridge was well signed and there would be height warning signs in the cab) so he will receive a driving ban if found guilty. when his ban is served no bus company will employ him due to the perceived increased insurance risk. dolomiteman
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