Bishop's Waltham traders fear for their future (From Daily Echo)
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Giant Sainsbury’s store ‘would kill our high street shops’
11:13am Wednesday 28th January 2009 in Fareham
THUMBS-DOWN: Traders in Bishop’s Waltham make their feelings clear about Sainsbury’s. Echo picture by Terry Bond. Order no: 7980759
SUPERMARKET giant Sainsbury’s has plans to build a new store in a Hampshire village – but local traders fear that it could kill off their high street shops.
The Daily Echo has learned that Sainsbury’s wants to build a store in Bishop’s Waltham. Although an official planning application has not yet been made, the parish council has confirmed that the supermarket has bought land on the Abbey Mill site.
Supermarket bosses said that they are looking at building a store on the site but have refused to confirm how large the supermarket would be.
‘Disastrous’ The news is a blow to small businesses. Andrew Grover, a local butcher for more than 20 years, said: “It could kill the high street.”
Peter Atkinson, who has run Atkinson’s Fresh Fish shop for 20 years, said: “If a store gets built here it will finish the village shops off.”
Winchester city councillor George Hollingbery said: “Any of the big supermarkets opening would be disastrous for a small town like Bishop’s Waltham, which thrives on its individual and independent shops and services.”
A spokesman for Sainsbury’s said: “No plans have been progressed yet. Should proposals come forward, Sainsbury’s would consult with the local community at the outset.”
The plot of land was due to be turned into 70 new homes by developers almost two years ago but it is understood that the land was sold to Sainsbury’s just before Christmas.
Comments(20)
Tobeblunt
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11:40am Wed 28 Jan 09
But on the other hand as bishops waltham has a large population of elderly this will benifit them greatly.
Tobeblunt
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11:48am Wed 28 Jan 09
goard
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12:01pm Wed 28 Jan 09
ead shop, in other Countries, provides a far better diet - let the big boys roll on - we can get better down the road. Other countries have wonderful local indoor markets, which, incidentally, the Council/or such, told us would happen with the early plans of Ocean Village - what a damp squib that was. Have it in mind tho' no big profit because it will take a year or two to gain confidence in the shoppers - go on 'small' shops' give it a try. May I add there are other towns in this Country that have, over the years, done just that. Get together, see just what other parts of the country are doing - don't just sit there - beat the moguls of the food trade.
goard
enidx
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1:51pm Wed 28 Jan 09
Tobeblunt
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2:25pm Wed 28 Jan 09
enidx wrote:As for ducks , what about all the other wildlife in the area which is killed through people having to travel to Fareham, Waterlooville or Hedge End to shop.
Bring it on... Bishops waltham is the largest town in a rural area, the villagers in the surrounding area would really benefit from this. Many are only easily able to get to BW using the public transport links. Abbey Mill is tucked away so would not spoil the landscape. As for ducks , what about all the other wildlife in the area which is killed through people having to travel to Fareham, Waterlooville or Hedge End to shop. Bishops Walthams main food shops are Budgens and Co-op both are small with limited ranges of products, the rest of Bw seems to be made up of hairdressers, off-licences and estate agents. The few specialist food shops should not be effected by the opening of a sainsburys. Why do people encourage change with one hand then get all up in arms when their local area has to change.
Because more people will be travelling to bishops waltham instead of Hedge end, Wichester, etc.. thus increasing the risk to this lovely pond area. Not forgeting to mention the increase in litter to this area.
Ted Rogers
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2:47pm Wed 28 Jan 09
Archie Bald
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3:09pm Wed 28 Jan 09
AndyAndrews
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3:41pm Wed 28 Jan 09
Northamboy
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6:40pm Wed 28 Jan 09
After all remember Hedge End prior to the so called superstores? It was quiet and now its a litter ridden area with anti social yobs everywhere. Keep Waltham Sainsbury free!
wilsamsaints
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7:05pm Wed 28 Jan 09
Ian24
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9:46pm Wed 28 Jan 09
wilsamsaints wrote:100% correct. If locals would have supported housing it would have been built by now.
these villages demonstrate against houses being built on the land and this is the result
If I was them I would take a Sainsbury’s today as it this fails it will be subject to a waste disposal application next time or worse. As our economy slumps land use gets more anti-social.
Ted Rogers
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1:46am Thu 29 Jan 09
Ian24 wrote:You are both 100% incorrect.
wilsamsaints wrote: these villages demonstrate against houses being built on the land and this is the result100% correct. If locals would have supported housing it would have been built by now. If I was them I would take a Sainsbury’s today as it this fails it will be subject to a waste disposal application next time or worse. As our economy slumps land use gets more anti-social.
The developer already had planning permission for the site but decided to flip the land to Sainsburys due to the prevailing market conditions. Try applying some fact to your posts.
jammyaustin
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3:18am Thu 29 Jan 09
retailers opening their stores close by. And, being a chef, I want to be able to source fresh local ingredients.
So, last week end, with friends coming for dinner, I thought my local shops (I live in BW) would be ideal.
What a disappointment! With the exception of the fish monger, which had an excellent selection of stock, and friendly,knowledgeab
le staff, I found the whole experience disheartening.
I won't name names, but for an example, in a shop selling fruit and veg, I would expect the staff to know what parsley looks like!
If the traders of Waltham and other similar villages want to fend of the big chains, might I suggest that
they look at their selves, and up their game to offer a level of product quality, choice and level of service that
the big supermarkets can't compete with.
Until this happens, up and down the country, the Sainsbury/Tesco bandwagon will roll relentlessly on.
Ian24
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8:35am Thu 29 Jan 09
Ted Rogers wrote:try finding out when the first application was put in. How long it took to get and how much time and money this may have wasted then comment on facts. The first application was before Barratts time long before.
Ian24 wrote:You are both 100% incorrect.
wilsamsaints wrote: these villages demonstrate against houses being built on the land and this is the result100% correct. If locals would have supported housing it would have been built by now. If I was them I would take a Sainsbury’s today as it this fails it will be subject to a waste disposal application next time or worse. As our economy slumps land use gets more anti-social.
The developer already had planning permission for the site but decided to flip the land to Sainsburys due to the prevailing market conditions. Try applying some fact to your posts.
Ted Rogers
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11:17am Thu 29 Jan 09
Ian24 wrote:Ian, you mis-informed individual, here are some facts for you that cannot be glossed over by your pathetic attempt at justification regarding first applications.
Ted Rogers wrote:try finding out when the first application was put in. How long it took to get and how much time and money this may have wasted then comment on facts. The first application was before Barratts time long before.Ian24 wrote:You are both 100% incorrect. The developer already had planning permission for the site but decided to flip the land to Sainsburys due to the prevailing market conditions. Try applying some fact to your posts.wilsamsaints wrote: these villages demonstrate against houses being built on the land and this is the result100% correct. If locals would have supported housing it would have been built by now. If I was them I would take a Sainsbury’s today as it this fails it will be subject to a waste disposal application next time or worse. As our economy slumps land use gets more anti-social.
This land was originally used for commercial purposes, some companies having traded there for some time and with existing leases from the landowner. Are you saying that to pass planning to convert from commercial to residential use with existing tenants would be straight-forward and easy and quick?
You do not think that consideration for, and negotiation with such tenants would have taken place? Are you saying that a site that contains a building of historic interest wouldn't have been subject to serious scrutiny?
Come on stop trying to justify your previous statement that is 100%incorrect
Ann Balref
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1:56pm Thu 29 Jan 09
Ian24
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3:30pm Thu 29 Jan 09
Ted Rogers
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11:24pm Thu 29 Jan 09
Ian24 wrote:Wrong again! Still can't deal in fact? Keep playing the game blame though, far easier than actually engaging your brain.
I guess Ted was an objector and now only has himself to blame. x x x x
Ann Balref
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9:17am Fri 30 Jan 09
Stop trying to be clever, it really doesn't suit you!
100% Correct.
zx9pat
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12:10pm Fri 30 Jan 09
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