Two motorcyclists suffer serious injuries after collision in Wickham

Teenager fights for life after motorbike crash Teenager fights for life after motorbike crash

A TEENAGER is fighting for his life in hospital today after his moped crashed with a motorbike in Hampshire.

The 16-year-old moped rider was in collision with a dark blue Honda 1300cc motorbike just off the A32 in Wickham, at the junction with School Road and Wykeham Field, just before 7.45pm last night.

The young male, who was riding a red Peugeot Speedflight moped, was taken to the Queen Alexandra Hospital where he is currently in a critical condition.

The rider of the motorbike, a 44-year-old man from Winchester, suffered potentially life-threatening injuries and is being treated at Southampton General Hospital. He is described as being in a serious but stable condition.

School Road was closed until 1.20am at its junction with Bridge Street and Fareham Road, to allow accident investigators to examine the scene.

Any witnesses to the collision should contact Sergeant Wayne Voller at Fratton Roads Policing Unit, on 101, quoting Operation Dolman, or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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Comments(31)

bazzeroz says...
10:46am Thu 17 May 12

16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.

Huffter says...
11:10am Thu 17 May 12

bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
So how did the moped rider's age contribute to causing this accident?

Shoong says...
11:43am Thu 17 May 12

Huffter wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
So how did the moped rider's age contribute to causing this accident?
That's not what he said.

He merely stated that he would like to see the law changed.

G0Rf says...
11:45am Thu 17 May 12

hope they both get better soon, motorbikes are very dangerous!

iankenken says...
12:36pm Thu 17 May 12

Motorbikes aren't dangerous. It is poor riding/driving standards that make use of the roads dangerous for everyone. Hope both of them make full recoveries.

Willy47 says...
1:33pm Thu 17 May 12

I have to agree with bazzeroz here, 16 is way too young to be on a moped. Young drivers just think they are invincible on the roads and so many youg motorcyclists die and this could easily be prevented if they changed the law to say you had to be 25 to ride one so people would be more mature and more understanding of the results of their actions.

tand3rz says...
2:11pm Thu 17 May 12

Willy47 wrote:
I have to agree with bazzeroz here, 16 is way too young to be on a moped. Young drivers just think they are invincible on the roads and so many youg motorcyclists die and this could easily be prevented if they changed the law to say you had to be 25 to ride one so people would be more mature and more understanding of the results of their actions.
There is no need for another restriction put on us, we currently have 16 for moped, 17 for a 125cc maximum bike after CBT, 33bhp restriction until 2 years after full motorcycle test (much harder than a silly car test). Then after that we can ride what we wish, if all done as soon as possible that would be 19 years old. Motorcyclists learn a lot more about the roads than cars do as most car drivers are ignorant in their cages. Car drivers can buy any car they want after their test which is a joke to say the least. Motorcycles are safer, we are more aware i'm afraid.

Willy47 says...
2:19pm Thu 17 May 12

I totally see where your coming from and most motorcyclists im sure are very safe drivers and i hope to be one at some point. Its just the minority of younger motorcyclists who think its ok to do 60mph+ in a thirty and then kill themselves (happened quite recently i believe) that ruin it for the others,

Syn7791 says...
2:21pm Thu 17 May 12

I'm currently 21 and been riding for 5 years, never had an accident and always ridden a bike with full protective gear on, so by saying you would like to see it law that you can only ride a bike after 25 when we are "mature" is being very stereotypical, as there are still people out there that take more precautions then many would even begin to ponder.

I would suggest that no majority judgement is made based on minority action.

Willy47 says...
2:25pm Thu 17 May 12

As i said most motorcyclists are very safe drivers, its just painful to see the kids on mopeds in tracksuit bottoms and a t shirt, is that even legal? If it is then it should definitley be punishable with points on their licence, or even a ban on driving mopeds because its just suicidal.

But then again where would we be without natural selection.

tand3rz says...
2:28pm Thu 17 May 12

Willy47 wrote:
I totally see where your coming from and most motorcyclists im sure are very safe drivers and i hope to be one at some point. Its just the minority of younger motorcyclists who think its ok to do 60mph+ in a thirty and then kill themselves (happened quite recently i believe) that ruin it for the others,
You should definitely try biking, it gives you a whole new perspective. There are two kinds of people who ride motorbikes, the ones who have gone down and the ones who are due to go down. Anyone who has crashed their bike knows what it is like and just wouldn't be stupid on them anymore. Unfortunately people have to find out the hard way in life.

bazzeroz says...
4:01pm Thu 17 May 12

Shoong wrote:
Huffter wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
So how did the moped rider's age contribute to causing this accident?
That's not what he said.

He merely stated that he would like to see the law changed.
Correct, thank you.

ottred says...
4:04pm Thu 17 May 12

bazzeroz says...
10:46am Thu 17 May 12

16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.”


statistically men over 35 are involved in more bike accidents than any other age group. Keep 16 yr olds on mopeds & ban 17 yr olds from cars!!

Kate12345 says...
4:14pm Thu 17 May 12

I just want to say that this person was one of my close friends. They were doing nothing wrong, not breaking the speed limit, nothing. I would just like to say that you shouldn't comment about things that you don't know

Gainer T Gopher says...
7:03pm Thu 17 May 12

my little gophers can get there full car driving licences here in Canada at 16 but they have huge restrictions put on them for a couple of years.... no alcohol etc..... in Alberta you can apply for a licence at 14 if your parents agree....

Huffter says...
7:58pm Thu 17 May 12

Shoong wrote:
Huffter wrote:
bazzeroz wrote: 16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
So how did the moped rider's age contribute to causing this accident?
That's not what he said. He merely stated that he would like to see the law changed.
I didn't say it was what he said, merely asked a question.

Torchie1 says...
8:17pm Thu 17 May 12

tand3rz wrote:
Willy47 wrote:
I have to agree with bazzeroz here, 16 is way too young to be on a moped. Young drivers just think they are invincible on the roads and so many youg motorcyclists die and this could easily be prevented if they changed the law to say you had to be 25 to ride one so people would be more mature and more understanding of the results of their actions.
There is no need for another restriction put on us, we currently have 16 for moped, 17 for a 125cc maximum bike after CBT, 33bhp restriction until 2 years after full motorcycle test (much harder than a silly car test). Then after that we can ride what we wish, if all done as soon as possible that would be 19 years old. Motorcyclists learn a lot more about the roads than cars do as most car drivers are ignorant in their cages. Car drivers can buy any car they want after their test which is a joke to say the least. Motorcycles are safer, we are more aware i'm afraid.
It must be tricky trying to blame the car driver in this instance! As for car drivers buying any car they want having passed the driving test, you are absolutely correct but that well thought out little plan tends to fall to bits when the insurance quotes are reviewed.

Georgem says...
11:17pm Thu 17 May 12

Shoong wrote:
Huffter wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
So how did the moped rider's age contribute to causing this accident?
That's not what he said.

He merely stated that he would like to see the law changed.
No he didn't. He also opined that 16 is too young to be riding a moped.

That's right. Don't you remember waking up on your 17th birthday and realising you had suddenly gained a wealth of knowledge, wisdom and experience that wasn't there mere hours earlier?

Georgem says...
11:17pm Thu 17 May 12

bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
If it's too young, explain how virtually everybody else manages to not crash at that age. It's unfortunate, but accidents happen. It's got little to do with age.

Georgem says...
11:19pm Thu 17 May 12

Willy47 wrote:
I have to agree with bazzeroz here, 16 is way too young to be on a moped. Young drivers just think they are invincible on the roads and so many youg motorcyclists die and this could easily be prevented if they changed the law to say you had to be 25 to ride one so people would be more mature and more understanding of the results of their actions.
25? Give it a rest. Learning roadcraft at 25 is going to be a lot more difficult than at 16.

Georgem says...
11:21pm Thu 17 May 12

Kate12345 wrote:
I just want to say that this person was one of my close friends. They were doing nothing wrong, not breaking the speed limit, nothing. I would just like to say that you shouldn't comment about things that you don't know
You must be new here. The typical reader of these pages believes that almost everything enjoyable should be made illegal, and the few things that are left, should only be legal for people who are, by coincidence, about a year younger than they are.

Georgem says...
11:21pm Thu 17 May 12

Kate12345 wrote:
I just want to say that this person was one of my close friends. They were doing nothing wrong, not breaking the speed limit, nothing. I would just like to say that you shouldn't comment about things that you don't know
You must be new here. The typical reader of these pages believes that almost everything enjoyable should be made illegal, and the few things that are left, should only be legal for people who are, by coincidence, about a year younger than they are.

OMG of SOUTHAMPTON says...
2:41am Fri 18 May 12

I am the aunt of the Moped rider -and after just returning fron ICU in the hospital I cannot believe the comments of the smallminded people who have left posts on this page -My nephew had a private school education and was attending college - he rode a moped due to the lack of public transport from a rural village- he was not wearing 'tracksuit bottoms or lack of suitable attire' nor was he speeding - he was simply turning out of a side road when a speeding motorbike hit him side on.Before you pathetic people pass judgement on real people lives maybe you need to get out of your benefit claiming worlds and THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.- I am appalled at the insensitive comments posted without knowing the facts - yes there are some irresponsible 16 year olds riding around on mopeds but reading this forum there are many irrresponsible morons with access to a computer......
I pray my nephew survives this accident because it is the likes of him who become Dr's,Nurses and Solicitors that save the sad behinds of the NUMB SKULLS who have posted inconsiderate remarks on this page - Just remember that the next time you plead for help that it may have been a'moped riding idiot, getting to college' who is handling your case... without whom you would not have been able to afford the computer that you are wasting your time slagging off contributing members of the public ..... and they wonder why there is a class divide.

OMG of SOUTHAMPTON says...
3:33am Fri 18 May 12

bazzeroz wrote:
16's too young to be riding a moped/motorbike. About time the law was changed.
Can only be sat at home on benefits at that time of the morning ....get a life ....get a job and become a member of the REAL WORLD .Us Tax paying people are fed up with people like you having a say in Our world there must be some kind of forum for Benefit Bums like you- Keep your lowlife opinions to yourself.

Willy47 says...
9:20am Fri 18 May 12

In reply to "OMG of southampton".

I am genuinely sorry what happend and i hope he makes a full recovery.

I think that all of the comments on this page where not aimed at your nefu specifically but are however just people debating the safety or motorcyclists in general as the page just sort of got hi-jacked into a discussion about motorcyclists in general.

I for one do not appreciate being called a benefit claimant as i actually work a hell of a lot of hours to get by and am a hopeful candidate for being in the RAF to defend our country. Just think before you start offending people you don't even know.

I am sure that everyone on here has no idea what you are going through and i wish you and your nefu all the best.

Keep That Smile says...
12:24pm Fri 18 May 12

To Willy,

I think your pathetic reply to OMG Southampton is too little too late. I was going to write something similar to OMG Southampton as people's comments, particularly yours highly offended me. To say "But then again where would we be without natural selection" is an absolutely disgusting thing to say. I only hope that one day a member of your family isn't critically ill and you have to read awful comments such as those you have put here.

I wish the 16 year old lad all the best and my thoughts are with his family at this upsetting time.

Willy47 says...
12:55pm Fri 18 May 12

I believe my comments were justified and just pointing out the fact that a lot of people do not wear the protective clothing.

I made no comments about the lad concerned.

There is absolutely no need to make this personal which to be honest is the most pathetic thing about this.

Oh and sorry for the light humour.

I will refrain from posting anymore on this thread as it clearly is not the place for it.

Niel says...
2:06pm Fri 18 May 12

OMG of SOUTHAMPTON wrote:
I am the aunt of the Moped rider -and after just returning fron ICU in the hospital I cannot believe the comments of the smallminded people who have left posts on this page -My nephew had a private school education and was attending college - he rode a moped due to the lack of public transport from a rural village- he was not wearing 'tracksuit bottoms or lack of suitable attire' nor was he speeding - he was simply turning out of a side road when a speeding motorbike hit him side on.Before you pathetic people pass judgement on real people lives maybe you need to get out of your benefit claiming worlds and THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.- I am appalled at the insensitive comments posted without knowing the facts - yes there are some irresponsible 16 year olds riding around on mopeds but reading this forum there are many irrresponsible morons with access to a computer......
I pray my nephew survives this accident because it is the likes of him who become Dr's,Nurses and Solicitors that save the sad behinds of the NUMB SKULLS who have posted inconsiderate remarks on this page - Just remember that the next time you plead for help that it may have been a'moped riding idiot, getting to college' who is handling your case... without whom you would not have been able to afford the computer that you are wasting your time slagging off contributing members of the public ..... and they wonder why there is a class divide.
Having ridden past the location yesterday, I can't help but wonder just how they came together.

The scrape marks on the road from the big bike weren't very long, suggesting it's speed wasn't that high (a bike on it's side will slide a long way even at 30 mph), and as they started to the North of the junction, on the South bound side, just which road was he turning out of?
I hope BOTH riders recover, no matter who was at fault.

Niel says...
2:08pm Fri 18 May 12

And yes I'm a motorcyclist!

MJK9850 says...
5:30pm Fri 18 May 12

To OMG.....I so hope your nephew makes a full and speedy recovery. On reading you post, you say, your nephew was pulling out of a side road. This suggests that your nephew was pulling out onto a main road, therefore into the path of the other motorcyclist !!!!

potsandkettles says...
6:03pm Mon 21 May 12

It sounds like six of one and half a dozen of the other at the moment. Whilst I hope both make a swift and full recovery, I think it's too early to say who was in the wrong if anyone and that people shouldn't be making assumptions. And that includes you, Aunty.

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