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Flagship housing project for Thornhill on target

NEW DEVELOPMENT: Computer generated images of the regenerated Hinkler Road in Thornhill. NEW DEVELOPMENT: Computer generated images of the regenerated Hinkler Road in Thornhill.

THE first homes on a flagship £15m regeneration project in Southampton are to go on sale in the next few weeks.

Barratt is building a mix of 106 homes, five new shops and a community centre at Hinkler Parade in Thornhill.

A 1960s shopping and housing precinct was demolished to take way for the new development, which will be called Prospect Place. Nearly a third of the houses will be family homes. There will be a mix of homes for sale and rent, through First Wessex housing association.

City council leader Royston Smith said: “This is a fantastic development and marks the start of what will be a major transformation of our housing estates which will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

Managing director at Barratt Southampton Ian Wallace said: “The team has made excellent progress here so it was excellent to have Cllr Smith to visit the site and see it for himself. We are on track to launch sales of the homes at the end of September.”

Hinkler Parade is the first major scheme to regenerate Southampton’s council estates in a £35 to £40 million improvement programme. The project is expected to be completed in two years.

Comments(23)

allsaintsnocurves says...
5:54pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Any chance of redevelop the massive isores next to southampton central station?!!

menotyou says...
6:09pm Fri 17 Sep 10

or the hideous shopping centres in millbrook (kendal avenue), (green lane) and weston (kingsclere close)?? every one of those are badly thaught out and could be better developed as housing estates while curing the problem of cheap drink being readily available to teenagers - it would also solve the problem of them hanging around outside shops and causing anyone going in or out utter mayhem!!!

Stupideditor says...
6:12pm Fri 17 Sep 10

will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens.

Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!

Condor Man says...
7:02pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Stupideditor wrote:
will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens.

Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!
yes and no, I'd imagine the houses to buy will be bought up by absentee landlords who'll fill them up withtenants so it won't make that much of a difference. With the absence of decent facilities and schools it will be unlikely to attract people looking for a cheaper alternative to Bitterne

Rob444 says...
7:32pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Looks like it's the beginning of the end of council housing in Southampton.

EM27, says...
7:40pm Fri 17 Sep 10

15 mill???? I could have flattened the lot for that then sold the land, profits all round and the puss filled wound on Southampton's underbelly is sorted in one swoop.

Para Not Normal says...
8:04pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Stupideditor wrote:
will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens.

Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!
Yes Thornhill does have a reputation, a reputation given to it by people who have never lived there, who never have go there, born out of ignorance.

This development will be an asset to the community, as they will own the shops and the community centre underneath the flats, earning money through that will be ploughed back into the community regeneration programme, which is and will be in the future led by the residents of Thornhill.

Yes Thornhill residents taking charge of their own futures, not bad for a bunch of chav's

So carry on everyone, keep being ignorant about the people of Thornhill because they are the one's laughing at you all.

binman1234 says...
8:30pm Fri 17 Sep 10

i wouldn buy one your car woill be smashed up youll get muged and abbused by the thornhill youth

Maine Lobster says...
8:53pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Rob444 wrote:
Looks like it's the beginning of the end of council housing in Southampton.
It's the end of the Housing Office as we know it.People won't be able to make payments there.Together with the closure of several other housing offices around the city,as yet not widely publicised by the Council,many people will find their estate services disappearing,like the libraries.

Reality-man says...
8:54pm Fri 17 Sep 10

binman1234 wrote:
i wouldn buy one your car woill be smashed up youll get muged and abbused by the thornhill youth
only downside is all the thornhill chavs that will trash it in a matter of months. You can put a chav behind the wheel of a ferrari but he's only going to smash it up

Stubs says...
9:32pm Fri 17 Sep 10

They are all chavs who live in Thorne Hill. They abuse everything they can.

Para Not Normal says...
10:59pm Fri 17 Sep 10

Maine Lobster wrote:
Rob444 wrote:
Looks like it's the beginning of the end of council housing in Southampton.
It's the end of the Housing Office as we know it.People won't be able to make payments there.Together with the closure of several other housing offices around the city,as yet not widely publicised by the Council,many people will find their estate services disappearing,like the libraries.
You are not entirely correct, rent payments will be made at paypoints in shops, Thornhill will have a library, it will be housed in the community centre, along with the housing office and locality health workers.

The plan for library includes it being run by volunteers, however I fear volunteers will not man the library and it will close eventually and this Tory council will use that as an excuse to close it, thus saving the council money

Just to inform the people who think Thornhill is full of chavs, can I inform you that over the last 9.5 years Thornhill residents have delivered £48,700 million pounds worth of regeneration, under the governement NDC programme, also 2 residents have been awarded a MBE and an OBE also residents have national regional and citywide awards.

Not bad for a bunch of chav's

TUNA_MAN says...
11:03pm Fri 17 Sep 10

binman1234 wrote:
i wouldn buy one your car woill be smashed up youll get muged and abbused by the thornhill youth
Says the bloke from bittern !!!! Where alcy's gather outside a pub in a shopping priecent around children and familys,Start looking at where you live before slagging off other places,Thornhill is one of the best up and coming areas around,I've lived here for ages and never ever had any trouble what-so-ever,I think your mixing TOWNHILL up with THORNHILL !!!

freemantlegirl2 says...
8:05am Sat 18 Sep 10

Para Not Normal wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens.

Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!
Yes Thornhill does have a reputation, a reputation given to it by people who have never lived there, who never have go there, born out of ignorance.

This development will be an asset to the community, as they will own the shops and the community centre underneath the flats, earning money through that will be ploughed back into the community regeneration programme, which is and will be in the future led by the residents of Thornhill.

Yes Thornhill residents taking charge of their own futures, not bad for a bunch of chav's

So carry on everyone, keep being ignorant about the people of Thornhill because they are the one's laughing at you all.
It is ignorant yes I agree, and any regeneration has to be good for any community, what was there before was run down and shabby, boarded up.

Thornhill has a bad reputation but I have many friends who live there, who say its really improved and there has been a lot of input and investment into the community by the council/NHS and new projects like this.

So don't try to 'change' the opinions of those who are too ignorant and up their own backsides to say anything good about anything! They sit there slagging the Echo off but they're still here all the time lol.

Good luck Thornhill, be proud of your community :)

Para Not Normal says...
10:08am Sat 18 Sep 10

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Para Not Normal wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.”

How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens.

Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!
Yes Thornhill does have a reputation, a reputation given to it by people who have never lived there, who never have go there, born out of ignorance.

This development will be an asset to the community, as they will own the shops and the community centre underneath the flats, earning money through that will be ploughed back into the community regeneration programme, which is and will be in the future led by the residents of Thornhill.

Yes Thornhill residents taking charge of their own futures, not bad for a bunch of chav's

So carry on everyone, keep being ignorant about the people of Thornhill because they are the one's laughing at you all.
It is ignorant yes I agree, and any regeneration has to be good for any community, what was there before was run down and shabby, boarded up.

Thornhill has a bad reputation but I have many friends who live there, who say its really improved and there has been a lot of input and investment into the community by the council/NHS and new projects like this.

So don't try to 'change' the opinions of those who are too ignorant and up their own backsides to say anything good about anything! They sit there slagging the Echo off but they're still here all the time lol.

Good luck Thornhill, be proud of your community :)
Thanks Freemantlegirl2

Most of the investment over the last 9.5 years came from the last Government, the council, NHS and others should have matched funded pound for pound everything the regeneration organisation (Thornhill residents) paid out, however it is and was not the case, they have been really good partners when it comes to taking credit for what the residents did, both organisation have invested large amounts of funding, but not half as much as they should have, the £48.700 million the last Government invested should have in fact been more like £100,000 but it didn't happen, so we move on and carry on the great work that has already been carried out.

Yes we know we have people and elements of our community that are not 100% but Rome was not built in a day, people are now saying they want to come to Thornhill to live, those who live there want to remain, which to me says it all, those are the people I listen too.

Alot of people on here don't know the facts especially the like's of Condor Man, Binman, EM27, but heyho, the uninformed ignoramuses will always add their small narrow minded opinions, but I and good people of Thornhill are not that bothered, we are used to fools, we are used to people making the sarcastic chav estate comments, we smile and carry on our work which we will continue to do long into the future.

Just for good measure, the money the council has not invested in Thornhill for the past 9.5 years has been spent on other estates and neighbourhoods across the city, so when those ignoramuses walk down their respective streets or drive their cars on the roads and see improvements that have been made, they can thank Thornhill for taking all the council money that was entitled to them so the other could benefit.


Thanks again for your positive comments, that's what keep me working/volunteering in Thornhill

PS.... Before anyone say's I live in Sholing, I have just downsized to my own 3 bedroom house here, I moved from Thornhill, but I still work there.

EM27, says...
10:37am Sat 18 Sep 10

Para Not Normal wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Para Not Normal wrote:
Stupideditor wrote: will in turn improve the quality of life for residents across the city.” How? When Thornhill has a marked reputation and chav families still run riff in the area amoung some decent families who are law abiding citizens. Does this mean the Thornhill boys will get fresh meat to prey on!
Yes Thornhill does have a reputation, a reputation given to it by people who have never lived there, who never have go there, born out of ignorance. This development will be an asset to the community, as they will own the shops and the community centre underneath the flats, earning money through that will be ploughed back into the community regeneration programme, which is and will be in the future led by the residents of Thornhill. Yes Thornhill residents taking charge of their own futures, not bad for a bunch of chav's So carry on everyone, keep being ignorant about the people of Thornhill because they are the one's laughing at you all.
It is ignorant yes I agree, and any regeneration has to be good for any community, what was there before was run down and shabby, boarded up. Thornhill has a bad reputation but I have many friends who live there, who say its really improved and there has been a lot of input and investment into the community by the council/NHS and new projects like this. So don't try to 'change' the opinions of those who are too ignorant and up their own backsides to say anything good about anything! They sit there slagging the Echo off but they're still here all the time lol. Good luck Thornhill, be proud of your community :)
Thanks Freemantlegirl2 Most of the investment over the last 9.5 years came from the last Government, the council, NHS and others should have matched funded pound for pound everything the regeneration organisation (Thornhill residents) paid out, however it is and was not the case, they have been really good partners when it comes to taking credit for what the residents did, both organisation have invested large amounts of funding, but not half as much as they should have, the £48.700 million the last Government invested should have in fact been more like £100,000 but it didn't happen, so we move on and carry on the great work that has already been carried out. Yes we know we have people and elements of our community that are not 100% but Rome was not built in a day, people are now saying they want to come to Thornhill to live, those who live there want to remain, which to me says it all, those are the people I listen too. Alot of people on here don't know the facts especially the like's of Condor Man, Binman, EM27, but heyho, the uninformed ignoramuses will always add their small narrow minded opinions, but I and good people of Thornhill are not that bothered, we are used to fools, we are used to people making the sarcastic chav estate comments, we smile and carry on our work which we will continue to do long into the future. Just for good measure, the money the council has not invested in Thornhill for the past 9.5 years has been spent on other estates and neighbourhoods across the city, so when those ignoramuses walk down their respective streets or drive their cars on the roads and see improvements that have been made, they can thank Thornhill for taking all the council money that was entitled to them so the other could benefit. Thanks again for your positive comments, that's what keep me working/volunteering in Thornhill PS.... Before anyone say's I live in Sholing, I have just downsized to my own 3 bedroom house here, I moved from Thornhill, but I still work there.
No you lived in a flat, you hated the view form the hill and it pushed you to the edge of reason and you moved.
How's the old British Legion?

Para Not Normal says...
12:02pm Sat 18 Sep 10

You have the wrong the person.

There were no flat's in the road I lived in, before I moved.

Para Not Normal says...
12:02pm Sat 18 Sep 10

You have the wrong the person.

There were no flat's in the road I lived in, before I moved.

Maine Lobster says...
1:06pm Sat 18 Sep 10

Para Not Normal wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Rob444 wrote:
Looks like it's the beginning of the end of council housing in Southampton.
It's the end of the Housing Office as we know it.People won't be able to make payments there.Together with the closure of several other housing offices around the city,as yet not widely publicised by the Council,many people will find their estate services disappearing,like the libraries.
You are not entirely correct, rent payments will be made at paypoints in shops, Thornhill will have a library, it will be housed in the community centre, along with the housing office and locality health workers.

The plan for library includes it being run by volunteers, however I fear volunteers will not man the library and it will close eventually and this Tory council will use that as an excuse to close it, thus saving the council money

Just to inform the people who think Thornhill is full of chavs, can I inform you that over the last 9.5 years Thornhill residents have delivered £48,700 million pounds worth of regeneration, under the governement NDC programme, also 2 residents have been awarded a MBE and an OBE also residents have national regional and citywide awards.

Not bad for a bunch of chav's
Try checking your account or asking for a balance at a paypoint, they won't be able to help you,they will only take money,no other service will be available. Shame the good people of Thornhill were not consulted about it before the decision to withdraw that facility was made.That would have been nice,wouldn't it?

EM27, says...
1:20pm Sat 18 Sep 10

Para Not Normal wrote:
You have the wrong the person. There were no flat's in the road I lived in, before I moved.
No the ISP says it's you.
How's the new job by the way?

Condor Man says...
2:06pm Sat 18 Sep 10

Freemantle Girl, none of the shops in Hinkler Road were empty before the demolition work started. Millions have been wasted in Thornhill because the people at the helm were not up to the job. TPY has been a wasted opportunity. I would have spent money on small business units to attract new investment and jobs to the estate. I would have also tried to get a supermarket on the old Dibbens site so local people could buy affordable food more conveniently (but an MP put a stop to that). People of Thornhill should feel cheated that public sector stooges collected good wages whilst services on the estate never really improved.

ourkid1984 says...
1:28pm Mon 20 Sep 10

It always makes me laugh when there's a story about Thornhill on here.

The same people always make comments and usually the 1st ones to do so are the ignorant idots that have nothing better to do then to make negative and childish comments about an area that they no next to nothing about. What saddens me even more is they even make these comments on positive stories about the area.

1st if everyone who lives in Thornhill are chavs then why is Thornhill not called Chatham? Oh I forgot, you and too many other people don't even know where the word comes from, shame I do as I'm obviously not educated being from Thornhill and all that.

2nd why do so many people support Thornhill and it's reputation, even people not from Thornhill? Because it's not a bad area by any stretch of the imagination.

3rd how come people who choose to spill loads of negative rubbish about Thornhill always moan and complain about why their area don't receive any investment? The truth is the over riding factor why Thornhill got the money in the 1st place was the community spirit. So my advice to you people who moan would be to go away and try to be positive about your area and try to build some community spirit, it might just get you somewhere.

I no longer live in Thornhill, moved to Sholing, a preceived nice part as well. Is it any better and would I come back if I had the chance? No it's no better there's less sense of community, less faclilities (than even before the investment) and yes there still is 'chavs', so for those reasons I would love to live back in Thornhill.

jolly days says...
5:49pm Mon 20 Sep 10

ourkid1984 wrote:
It always makes me laugh when there's a story about Thornhill on here. The same people always make comments and usually the 1st ones to do so are the ignorant idots that have nothing better to do then to make negative and childish comments about an area that they no next to nothing about. What saddens me even more is they even make these comments on positive stories about the area. 1st if everyone who lives in Thornhill are chavs then why is Thornhill not called Chatham? Oh I forgot, you and too many other people don't even know where the word comes from, shame I do as I'm obviously not educated being from Thornhill and all that. 2nd why do so many people support Thornhill and it's reputation, even people not from Thornhill? Because it's not a bad area by any stretch of the imagination. 3rd how come people who choose to spill loads of negative rubbish about Thornhill always moan and complain about why their area don't receive any investment? The truth is the over riding factor why Thornhill got the money in the 1st place was the community spirit. So my advice to you people who moan would be to go away and try to be positive about your area and try to build some community spirit, it might just get you somewhere. I no longer live in Thornhill, moved to Sholing, a preceived nice part as well. Is it any better and would I come back if I had the chance? No it's no better there's less sense of community, less faclilities (than even before the investment) and yes there still is 'chavs', so for those reasons I would love to live back in Thornhill.
Well said Ourkid1984, i have lived in Thornhill for years, the recent improvements are fantastic and not a waste of money as Condor man (who knows nothing) has stated.

I have got a good job never been unemployed which is amazing considering i was educated in THORNHILL !!!!!

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