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2:34pm Wednesday 3rd February 2010 in
ENVIRONMENTAL campaigners want plans to dispose of radioactive waste from the Sellafield nuclear plant in the New Forest to be scrapped.
They have called for the low-level radioactive waste oil, which is stored in sealed UN-approved drums, to remain at the Cumbrian plant.
The risk to the Hampshire public is considered negligible as the level of radiation is thousands of times lower than that which arises from everyday natural radiation exposure.
There are fears transporting it 350 miles could be an environmental disaster if a truck was involved in an accident.
Under a proposal ten trucks a year would make the journey from Cumbria to a Spanish-owned incinerator in Fawley.
New Forest Friends of the Earth spokesman John Walker said: “We totally object to the proposals and we see no reason why this should not be dealt with elsewhere.
“We are also concerned that this could set a precedent for nuclear waste from other sources to be disposed of in the New Forest.”
Each truck would carry about 40 barrels of radioactive waste, which consists of contaminated lubricants, as well as hydraulic and engine oils.
If approved by the environment Agency, up to 100 cubic metres of the waste would be sent to Hampshire each year.
The Fawley incinerator is the only treatment plant in the UK authorised to deal with this type of waste.
New Forest Liberal Democrat Councillor David Harrison said: “I think it is irresponsible of central Government to transport waste of that nature such large distances.
“You would have thought that if you are going to produce material of that type then you are going to provide a facility to deal with it on or near the site.”
The first load, which is likely to travel down the busy M3, M27 and A326, could arrive as early as the spring.
Once incinerated, the ash will be dumped at the Pound Bottom landfill site near Salisbury.
New Forest District Council leader Barry Rickman said: “I am confident that the material they are transporting does not pose a danger to the residents of the New Forest.”
Barrie Foley, New Forest National Park Authority interim chief executive, said the NPA had not been consulted on the plans.
■ What was the radioactive waste used for at Sellafield nuclear power plant?
It consists of contaminated lubricants, as well as hydraulic and engine oils. It was previously stored in safety compounds on site at Sellafield and is, on average, about ten years old.
■ Why does the radioactive waste have to come to Hampshire?
The Fawley incinerator, owned by Tradebe, is the only treatment plant in the UK authorised to deal with this type of low-level radioactive waste. Previously the oil had been stored in safety compounds in Sellafield or sent to Sweden for incineration.
■ What is the risk to the public if there is a leak?
The authorities insist there is no risk to the public as the level of radiation is thousands of times lower than that which arises from everyday radiation exposure.
The major environmental risk comes from the oil itself, for example pollution of watercourses.
■ What risk does incineration pose to the air?
A Health Protection Agency assessment, conducted on behalf of Tradebe, indicates that any radiation exposure to those living close to the incinerator will be low and well within the recognised radiation dose limits.
Comments(15)
rcoups
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4:55pm Wed 3 Feb 10
freefinker
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5:16pm Wed 3 Feb 10
The Wickham Man
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5:28pm Wed 3 Feb 10
freefinker
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5:53pm Wed 3 Feb 10
southy
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6:22pm Wed 3 Feb 10
Brite Spark
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6:42pm Wed 3 Feb 10
forest hump
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6:58pm Wed 3 Feb 10
freefinker wrote:Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source"
Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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7:51pm Wed 3 Feb 10
southy wrote:****yes and look what happened to the girls that was painting those luminous dials, a lot of them ended up with cancer, smiths had to make a very large pay out. in the usa.****
Wickham Man said.
""You get many times more radiation than this from the luminous paint on the watch that you happily strap to your wrist""
yes and look what happened to the girls that was painting those luminous dials, a lot of them ended up with cancer, smiths had to make a very large pay out. in the usa.
you also said
""you get X rayed at the dentists ""
have you not ever notice how the dentist person tends to leave the room or move has far away has they can
and in cornwall they have banned any new building on such location.
its not a case of how low it is its more of a case how long you are expose to the low level radiation.
freefinker the only solution i can see that can be done with this sort of stuff, is put in space and head it to wards the sun or jupiter, probley the only places where it could do any good
southy
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8:05pm Wed 3 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:some did do that i will agree, but some others did't, like some only held the handle in there mouth, and some did't even do that.
southy wrote:****yes and look what happened to the girls that was painting those luminous dials, a lot of them ended up with cancer, smiths had to make a very large pay out. in the usa.****
Wickham Man said.
""You get many times more radiation than this from the luminous paint on the watch that you happily strap to your wrist""
yes and look what happened to the girls that was painting those luminous dials, a lot of them ended up with cancer, smiths had to make a very large pay out. in the usa.
you also said
""you get X rayed at the dentists ""
have you not ever notice how the dentist person tends to leave the room or move has far away has they can
and in cornwall they have banned any new building on such location.
its not a case of how low it is its more of a case how long you are expose to the low level radiation.
freefinker the only solution i can see that can be done with this sort of stuff, is put in space and head it to wards the sun or jupiter, probley the only places where it could do any good
Almost all of of the girls involved ingested the material when they licked the bristles to keep the paintbrush point as fine as possible.......a fact that's fairly easy to check, so the luminous dial on your wrist won't pose any problem at all.
freefinker
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8:10pm Wed 3 Feb 10
forest hump wrote:Er! I think in my original post I said "If this is the only solution they can come up with it's about time they ceased producing any more." which has quite a different meaning to the shorter section that you use.
freefinker wrote:Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source"
Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.
To stop producing would mean ther would be a shortage of electricity in this country as it stands. I suspect you would be on the whiners bandwagon, moaning about power cuts. Secondly, to deal with all nuclear waste at source is not only not cost effective but probably increases risk, as there would be multiple reprocessing facilities. This story, in terms of risk, has been blown out of all proportion. Scaremongering media claptrap.
forest hump
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9:10pm Wed 3 Feb 10
freefinker wrote:Naive: go ask the French!
forest hump wrote:Er! I think in my original post I said "If this is the only solution they can come up with it's about time they ceased producing any more." which has quite a different meaning to the shorter section that you use. Our nuclear power stations are rapidly reaching the end of their life (with the exception of Sizewell B) and to renew the building programme as recently envisaged by this government will be a very retrograde step for this country to take. There are HUGE quantities of waste from the operation and decommissioning of both our civilian and military nuclear industries - and after 50 plus years we still haven't got even the faintest idea of what we are going to do with it. As the saying goes - if you're in a hole, stop digging. As for future electricity need the future is with energy efficiency (grid distribution, appliance design, etc) where we still have potential for huge reductions, and renewables (where many innovative new technologies should come online over the next few years). The future is NOT nuclear - it's has a very expensive cost and leaves a terrible legacy for future generations.freefinker wrote: Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source" To stop producing would mean ther would be a shortage of electricity in this country as it stands. I suspect you would be on the whiners bandwagon, moaning about power cuts. Secondly, to deal with all nuclear waste at source is not only not cost effective but probably increases risk, as there would be multiple reprocessing facilities. This story, in terms of risk, has been blown out of all proportion. Scaremongering media claptrap.
southy
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10:26pm Wed 3 Feb 10
forest hump wrote:yes ask the french but make sure its the locals, and they take the same stance has most do in the uk. the end result it cost to much when dealing with the waste and what is left over over when a plant is shut down.
freefinker wrote:Naive: go ask the French!
forest hump wrote:Er! I think in my original post I said "If this is the only solution they can come up with it's about time they ceased producing any more." which has quite a different meaning to the shorter section that you use. Our nuclear power stations are rapidly reaching the end of their life (with the exception of Sizewell B) and to renew the building programme as recently envisaged by this government will be a very retrograde step for this country to take. There are HUGE quantities of waste from the operation and decommissioning of both our civilian and military nuclear industries - and after 50 plus years we still haven't got even the faintest idea of what we are going to do with it. As the saying goes - if you're in a hole, stop digging. As for future electricity need the future is with energy efficiency (grid distribution, appliance design, etc) where we still have potential for huge reductions, and renewables (where many innovative new technologies should come online over the next few years). The future is NOT nuclear - it's has a very expensive cost and leaves a terrible legacy for future generations.freefinker wrote: Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source" To stop producing would mean ther would be a shortage of electricity in this country as it stands. I suspect you would be on the whiners bandwagon, moaning about power cuts. Secondly, to deal with all nuclear waste at source is not only not cost effective but probably increases risk, as there would be multiple reprocessing facilities. This story, in terms of risk, has been blown out of all proportion. Scaremongering media claptrap.
forest hump
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7:49pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy wrote:They would not switch their current electricity bills for ones elsewhere. Again: go ask the French. QED
forest hump wrote:yes ask the french but make sure its the locals, and they take the same stance has most do in the uk. the end result it cost to much when dealing with the waste and what is left over over when a plant is shut down.freefinker wrote:Naive: go ask the French!forest hump wrote:Er! I think in my original post I said "If this is the only solution they can come up with it's about time they ceased producing any more." which has quite a different meaning to the shorter section that you use. Our nuclear power stations are rapidly reaching the end of their life (with the exception of Sizewell B) and to renew the building programme as recently envisaged by this government will be a very retrograde step for this country to take. There are HUGE quantities of waste from the operation and decommissioning of both our civilian and military nuclear industries - and after 50 plus years we still haven't got even the faintest idea of what we are going to do with it. As the saying goes - if you're in a hole, stop digging. As for future electricity need the future is with energy efficiency (grid distribution, appliance design, etc) where we still have potential for huge reductions, and renewables (where many innovative new technologies should come online over the next few years). The future is NOT nuclear - it's has a very expensive cost and leaves a terrible legacy for future generations.freefinker wrote: Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source" To stop producing would mean ther would be a shortage of electricity in this country as it stands. I suspect you would be on the whiners bandwagon, moaning about power cuts. Secondly, to deal with all nuclear waste at source is not only not cost effective but probably increases risk, as there would be multiple reprocessing facilities. This story, in terms of risk, has been blown out of all proportion. Scaremongering media claptrap.
southy
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10:42pm Thu 4 Feb 10
forest hump wrote:the local french dont want nuclear power stations to.
southy wrote:They would not switch their current electricity bills for ones elsewhere. Again: go ask the French. QED
forest hump wrote:yes ask the french but make sure its the locals, and they take the same stance has most do in the uk. the end result it cost to much when dealing with the waste and what is left over over when a plant is shut down.freefinker wrote:Naive: go ask the French!forest hump wrote:Er! I think in my original post I said "If this is the only solution they can come up with it's about time they ceased producing any more." which has quite a different meaning to the shorter section that you use. Our nuclear power stations are rapidly reaching the end of their life (with the exception of Sizewell B) and to renew the building programme as recently envisaged by this government will be a very retrograde step for this country to take. There are HUGE quantities of waste from the operation and decommissioning of both our civilian and military nuclear industries - and after 50 plus years we still haven't got even the faintest idea of what we are going to do with it. As the saying goes - if you're in a hole, stop digging. As for future electricity need the future is with energy efficiency (grid distribution, appliance design, etc) where we still have potential for huge reductions, and renewables (where many innovative new technologies should come online over the next few years). The future is NOT nuclear - it's has a very expensive cost and leaves a terrible legacy for future generations.freefinker wrote: Alas, The Wickham Man, there are differint types of radiation which you seem to want to treat as though they all the same. They are not. There are good reasons why those in the nuclear industries take elaborate precautions to avoid exposure. The nuclear industry has been accumulating radioactive waste now for over 50 years - and they still don't know what they are going to do with it. If this proposal is allowed to go ahead, what next? Much more of the same - and worse. They are bringing it hundreds of miles to dump it in our community rather than deal with it as its source. If everyone in this locality took your complacent attitude they will be rubbing their hands with glee.Your first post glibly stated "It's about time they ceased producing anymore" . Your second post inferred "rather than deal with it at source" To stop producing would mean ther would be a shortage of electricity in this country as it stands. I suspect you would be on the whiners bandwagon, moaning about power cuts. Secondly, to deal with all nuclear waste at source is not only not cost effective but probably increases risk, as there would be multiple reprocessing facilities. This story, in terms of risk, has been blown out of all proportion. Scaremongering media claptrap.
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Waysider says...
3:26pm Wed 3 Feb 10