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Company says Holbury villagers have nothing fear from waste transfer site proposal


A COMPANY planning to store asbestos near homes and a school has hit back at critics who claim the depot would be a health risk.

Solent Environmental Services (SES) has come under fire after gaining permission to operate a waste transfer station at its headquarters in Long Lane, Holbury.

The scheme has angered people living in nearby Ivor Close, whose bungalows back on to the site.

Campaigners claim that asbestos could escape into the air, with fatal consequences for anyone who inhales the potentially cancerous fibres.

Despite approval being granted, residents are now intent on seeking a judicial review in a bid to overturn the decision.

But SES claims villagers have nothing to fear, despite the company’s close proximity to shops, houses and Hardley School.

Contracts manager Ian Chiddicks said the industry was one of the most highly regulated, with staff having to undergo rigorous training.

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Mr Chiddicks said asbestos removed from offices, schools and other buildings would arrive at the yard in double bags made of industrial strength polythene.

He said the bags would be stored in steel containers before being transferred to licensed disposal sites. The containers would be kept padlocked – as would the compound they occupied.

Mr Chiddicks added: “We want to reassure people just how safe this operation is.

“Asbestos can be dangerous stuff if handled incorrectly, which is why professional companies such as ours are brought in to remove it.”

But despite the assurances campaigners repeated their claim that sharp pieces of asbestos could pierce the bags, releasing deadly dust.

Parish councillor Allan Glass said residents were seeking a judicial review of the decision to allow the waste transfer station and added: “We will carry on fighting this as long as we can.”

Critics claim the facility should be on an industrial site well away from houses.

Mr Chiddicks said: “The reason we’re doing it here is that we own the building. We had an Environment Agency inspection last week and passed with flying colours.”

Asked if he would be happy to live next door to the site himself he said: “Knowing the facts, yes.”

The scheme was given the go-ahead after Hampshire County Council approved a change of use application in a move criticised by district councillors. Fawley Parish Council has also condemned the decision, saying public opinion was ignored.

But Mr Chiddicks said no one attended two open evenings organised to explain the proposals and allay any fears.

“We wanted to give people the facts, but if they don’t turn up we can’t tell them what we’re doing,” he said.


Comments(13)

Forest Resident says...
6:21pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Is the opinion of an employee from the company profiting from these activities really going to say it's unsafe?

Common sense dictates that toxic carcinogens shouldn't be stored and handled so close to residential properties, no matter how safe the procedures are and how well trained the staff are accidents will still happen.

forest hump says...
6:39pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Forest Resident wrote:
Is the opinion of an employee from the company profiting from these activities really going to say it's unsafe? Common sense dictates that toxic carcinogens shouldn't be stored and handled so close to residential properties, no matter how safe the procedures are and how well trained the staff are accidents will still happen.
Driving your car presents a higher risk than this. The only downside however, naive people will not buy houses near this installation so their value will drop, despite the operation being safe. Unfortunately, people's knowledge of asbestos and associated risks have been distorted by the media.......as with most things!

MGRA says...
6:57pm Thu 26 Aug 10

ignorance reigns. asbestos is completely safe unless the fibres are disturbed and made airborne.

people merrily trot off to B&Q and buy MDF ,,, ever questioning what the "F" stands for and what it is capable of when cut ???

I rest my case.

A Upton says...
7:08pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Such alarmist talk. Asbestos handling is so strictly controlled and safe since the hazards were discovered a long time ago. The general public are allowed to deposit their own waste asbestos using uncontrolled self administered procedures at community waste disposal facilities at Everton or elsewhere as long as it is sealed. How many of the general public also dump unsealed plaster board in landfill facilities. It is not allowed any more. I would have thought that living within 100 yards of a petro-chemical refinery posed a greater risk to the locals health.

MartinWellbourne says...
7:46pm Thu 26 Aug 10

MGRA wrote:
ignorance reigns. asbestos is completely safe unless the fibres are disturbed and made airborne. people merrily trot off to B&Q and buy MDF ,,, ever questioning what the "F" stands for and what it is capable of when cut ??? I rest my case.
Some of these NIMBY's need to take a walk around their area and start getting owners of sheds/Marley garages to deal with their asbestos cement roof material.
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That presents a higher risk to them since it can be disturbed and many home owners have no idea about the safe disposal and handling of these products in many homes and gardens.

Leighsaint says...
8:07pm Thu 26 Aug 10

It all depends on the Asbestos being stored. Ask the relative of Dockers or People who worked at Eastleigh Railway works who died of Asbestos related desease what they think. If its Blue Asbestos being stored there and any fibres escapes it is not safe. You can't see the fibres? Whole villiages were decimated in the early 1930's where Blue Asbestos was mined. Goverments were aware of this at the time but chose to ignore it

Linesman says...
8:11pm Thu 26 Aug 10

It is a TRANSFER STATION! Whilst it may be safe whilst under lock and key, it has to be transported there and transported out again, so why put it there at all?
Why not have the storage facility at its final destination?
How often do we hear of places that are claimed to be 100% safe, operated by highly trained staff, that proved to be disaster sites?
The firework storage site that blew up.
The site near Heathrow - I can't remember what was stored there, but it devastated a wide area.
The barge full of armaments that blew up at Gosport.
Fawley refinery has had a few near-misses.
Southampton University had an explosion and fire a couple of years back.
The laboratory that started the foot & mouth outbreak five or six years back.
There a numerous cases where places that have made claim to being completely safe, have proved not to be with the local community having to pay the price.
If they need this facility, locate it away from a residential area.

AD74 says...
8:56pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Leighsaint wrote:
It all depends on the Asbestos being stored. Ask the relative of Dockers or People who worked at Eastleigh Railway works who died of Asbestos related desease what they think. If its Blue Asbestos being stored there and any fibres escapes it is not safe. You can't see the fibres? Whole villiages were decimated in the early 1930's where Blue Asbestos was mined. Goverments were aware of this at the time but chose to ignore it
....and your point? I think your saying that Holbury is going to be decimated and it's all a government cover up. Bonkers!

B. L. says...
9:34pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Linesman wrote:
It is a TRANSFER STATION! Whilst it may be safe whilst under lock and key, it has to be transported there and transported out again, so why put it there at all?
Why not have the storage facility at its final destination?
How often do we hear of places that are claimed to be 100% safe, operated by highly trained staff, that proved to be disaster sites?
The firework storage site that blew up.
The site near Heathrow - I can't remember what was stored there, but it devastated a wide area.
The barge full of armaments that blew up at Gosport.
Fawley refinery has had a few near-misses.
Southampton University had an explosion and fire a couple of years back.
The laboratory that started the foot & mouth outbreak five or six years back.
There a numerous cases where places that have made claim to being completely safe, have proved not to be with the local community having to pay the price.
If they need this facility, locate it away from a residential area.
Spot on ! The history of man made disasters is almost endless:-

Bhopal - Union Carbide 1984
Chernobyl - Nuclear Reactor 1986
Buncefield - Oil Depot 2005
Texas - Rocket Fuel Plant 2006
Portsmouth - Football Club 2010
Totton - Red Lion 2010

and the list goes on. Makes one despair at times!

88hythe says...
9:43pm Thu 26 Aug 10

They have more to fear from the drunks coming out of the old mill than this.

Linesman says...
10:36am Fri 27 Aug 10

88hythe wrote:
They have more to fear from the drunks coming out of the old mill than this.
The big difference is that you can see, hear and often smell drunks, but the same cannot be said of asbestos!

AD74 says...
12:11pm Fri 27 Aug 10

Linesman wrote:
88hythe wrote: They have more to fear from the drunks coming out of the old mill than this.
The big difference is that you can see, hear and often smell drunks, but the same cannot be said of asbestos!
Firslty given the amount of industrial area around Holbury this site should be located there, but there is more chance of being lumped and hurt by a drunk (see the story about the lady in the Lord Nelson, Hythe) than catching something through the asbestos, in fact your more likely to be injured in your car!

Linesman says...
3:16pm Fri 27 Aug 10

AD74 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
88hythe wrote: They have more to fear from the drunks coming out of the old mill than this.
The big difference is that you can see, hear and often smell drunks, but the same cannot be said of asbestos!
Firslty given the amount of industrial area around Holbury this site should be located there, but there is more chance of being lumped and hurt by a drunk (see the story about the lady in the Lord Nelson, Hythe) than catching something through the asbestos, in fact your more likely to be injured in your car!
Check out how many former Southampton Dockers have suffered from the effects of working with asbestos, then check how many that worked at Esso had the same problem, then check how many ladies have been assaulted by drunks coming out of the Lord Nelson!

Spot the difference!


CONFIDENT: SES contracts manager Ian Chiddicks in front of the asbestos skips. 	Echo pictures by Chris Moorhouse. Order no: 11030949 CONFIDENT: SES contracts manager Ian Chiddicks in front of the asbestos skips. Echo pictures by Chris Moorhouse. Order no: 11030949

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