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10:40am Wednesday 8th February 2012 in New Forest
Exclusive By Sian Davies, Senior News Reporter
COUNCIL chiefs are trying to shut down a sex club in a Hampshire village – because it breaks planning rules.
Neighbours have complained about the swingers’ club, which is based in a £500,000 private house boasting two fetish dungeons and a communal hot tub.
It is an unlikely setting for a sex club that has become so popular it boasts a programme of specialist nights ranging from fetish events to swingers’ nights and parties for “Big Beautiful Women”.
Guests are asked to contribute up to £35 towards the evenings where “every fantasy can come true”.
In between regular events for couples and singles, the £500,000 “fiveplayroom”
property can be rented out on a “first come first served basis” according to its website.
But now the venue, known as JCT2 on the swinging circuit, has been ordered to close down by the local authority after years of complaints from neighbours.
Residents living near the house in Salisbury Road, Calmore, have objected to guests parking outside their homes and have even had to direct lost partygoers to the right address.
New Forest District Council says the owner has allowed the property to be used as a business and as a result is in breach of planning rules.
See today's Daily Echo for the full story
Comments(114)
jimmy.little
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11:18am Wed 8 Feb 12
bazzeroz
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11:20am Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong
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11:22am Wed 8 Feb 12
Big Mac
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11:27am Wed 8 Feb 12
Northamboy
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11:34am Wed 8 Feb 12
jazzi
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11:40am Wed 8 Feb 12
Goldenwight
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11:42am Wed 8 Feb 12
sotonbusdriver
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11:42am Wed 8 Feb 12
Frank28
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11:49am Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th
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12:01pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong
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12:03pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Goldenwight
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12:04pm Wed 8 Feb 12
sotonbusdriver wrote:Sotonbusdriver, be careful- latex rubber can overheat causing fires...
I want to know where the dungeon gear will be auctioned??? Swingers Paradise,!!! There's plenty mroe about.
Taskforce 141
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12:07pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:How do you think you came into being you fool?
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
George4th
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12:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong wrote:I'll pass on the fact that I was referring to the comments.........
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Try it.
David Icke
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12:11pm Wed 8 Feb 12
hedge end bob
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12:20pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong
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12:24pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:Out of the window.
Shoong wrote:I'll pass on the fact that I was referring to the comments.........
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Try it.
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Out of interest, how do you view prostitution?
For pity sake
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12:29pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Taskforce 141 wrote:"Stalk"?
George4th wrote:How do you think you came into being you fool?
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
And No the stalk didnt bring you, if thats what mummy told you!
Taskforce 141
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12:32pm Wed 8 Feb 12
For pity sake wrote:LOL, speed typing errors.
Taskforce 141 wrote:"Stalk"?
George4th wrote:How do you think you came into being you fool?
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
And No the stalk didnt bring you, if thats what mummy told you!
I was found under the gooseberry bush, not growing on it, having been delivered by the STORK.
Stillness
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12:39pm Wed 8 Feb 12
jazzi wrote:I don't think the "ride" part is a problem.
When we have a get together we all contribute towards the costs !!
What people do in the privacy of their own homes is up to them !!
They will have difficulty proving this is a business, yet no doubt they will try at the tax payers expense of course !!
Maybe supply a park and ride, would solve the parking issues !!
teamgreen
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12:42pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Torchie1
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1:02pm Wed 8 Feb 12
teamgreen wrote:Judging by the number of grammatical mistakes in your post I would think your four year old has guessed your password.
wow no swingers in the new forest,but inbreeding and nimbys are ok go figure
eurogordi
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1:24pm Wed 8 Feb 12
gillyman
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1:31pm Wed 8 Feb 12
andreww
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1:35pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Goldenwight wrote:It's not actually in Calmore. Nearer to Ower.
I'm sure the residents of Calmore will be delighted when the property is reposessed, taken on by the Council, and let to a large family of gypsies/immigrants from / mother on benefits with 16 children, used as a drug re-habilitation centre or perhaps as a halfway house for paedophiles when they come out of prison. Just so long as they don't cause parking problems...
Marky66
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1:54pm Wed 8 Feb 12
WECOMING4U
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2:12pm Wed 8 Feb 12
bigfella777
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2:22pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Taskforce 141 wrote:I didn't come into being nor was I conceived at a swingers party some of have a bit of class and morals.
George4th wrote:How do you think you came into being you fool?
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
And No the stalk didnt bring you, if thats what mummy told you!
Goldenwight
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2:22pm Wed 8 Feb 12
andreww wrote:I'm not even going to ask how you know that.
Goldenwight wrote: I'm sure the residents of Calmore will be delighted when the property is reposessed, taken on by the Council, and let to a large family of gypsies/immigrants from / mother on benefits with 16 children, used as a drug re-habilitation centre or perhaps as a halfway house for paedophiles when they come out of prison. Just so long as they don't cause parking problems...It's not actually in Calmore. Nearer to Ower.
George4th
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2:37pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong wrote:Not up to your usual standard!
George4th wrote:Out of the window.
Shoong wrote:I'll pass on the fact that I was referring to the comments.........
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Try it.
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Out of interest, how do you view prostitution?
Rosie47
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2:45pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:Marky66? There was a party host at JCT2 with the same name who was friends with the bloke who runs the club
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
Rosie47
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2:45pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:Marky66? There was a party host at JCT2 with the same name who was friends with the bloke who runs the club
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
Shoong
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2:55pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:Oh come on, we don't all have the same tastes. I tried the whole domination thing once on a stag weekend in Holland but couldn't do it because I was in tears of laughter at how ridiculous it all was.
Shoong wrote:Not up to your usual standard!
George4th wrote:Out of the window.
Shoong wrote:I'll pass on the fact that I was referring to the comments.........
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Try it.
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Out of interest, how do you view prostitution?
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I asked the question because that is how I see that particular business.
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Subsequent remarks posted here have confirmed my original post.
danny boils
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3:15pm Wed 8 Feb 12
danny boils
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3:21pm Wed 8 Feb 12
teamgreen
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3:26pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Torchie1 wrote:get a life,if the only come back is grammatical, then you must be one of those nimbys ?
teamgreen wrote: wow no swingers in the new forest,but inbreeding and nimbys are ok go figureJudging by the number of grammatical mistakes in your post I would think your four year old has guessed your password.
Taskforce 141
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3:28pm Wed 8 Feb 12
bigfella777 wrote:Actually to be factually accurate you did come into being as did most things in the universe and beyond, this has been proven in sub atomic molecular physics!
Taskforce 141 wrote:I didn't come into being nor was I conceived at a swingers party some of have a bit of class and morals.
George4th wrote:How do you think you came into being you fool?
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
And No the stalk didnt bring you, if thats what mummy told you!
Over the Edge
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3:32pm Wed 8 Feb 12
J.K.
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3:45pm Wed 8 Feb 12
N F Resident
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3:49pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th
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4:07pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Shoong wrote:OK, I smiled!
George4th wrote:Oh come on, we don't all have the same tastes. I tried the whole domination thing once on a stag weekend in Holland but couldn't do it because I was in tears of laughter at how ridiculous it all was.
Shoong wrote:Not up to your usual standard!
George4th wrote:Out of the window.
Shoong wrote:I'll pass on the fact that I was referring to the comments.........
George4th wrote:Consenting adults having sex with each other? Doesn't sound so bad to me.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Try it.
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Out of interest, how do you view prostitution?
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I asked the question because that is how I see that particular business.
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Subsequent remarks posted here have confirmed my original post.
It's just a bit of fun, no-one gets hurt... unless you pay for it!
Crack!
Walter K
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4:08pm Wed 8 Feb 12
danny boils wrote:a happy ending...
Guess the Echo doesn't mind taking money from all those personal ads offering massage, we all know what the majority of those advertisers really offer
Sovietobserver
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4:10pm Wed 8 Feb 12
elvisimo
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4:10pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:sounds like you could do with paying a visit.
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
Sovietobserver
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4:19pm Wed 8 Feb 12
N F Resident wrote:I'm sure this owner had a similar business running in an up-market area of Bristol until last year, until the neighbours complained to the city council , and had it closed down. All the details were published in the Bristol Evening Press at the time and disclosed he was the owner of several other similar businesses.
The person that owns this house lives in Reading why doesn't he hold these parties at his house.
dango
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4:22pm Wed 8 Feb 12
elvisimo
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4:27pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango wrote:yes - but apparently the have " Mad February" offer. free glass of food and buffet for the month. Dont drink myself so not interested in the booze but the free nosh sounds ok.
has it closed down yet? 35 quid you say?
dango
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4:30pm Wed 8 Feb 12
elvisimo wrote:I'm all for free nosh, is beaver on the menu?
dango wrote:yes - but apparently the have " Mad February" offer. free glass of food and buffet for the month. Dont drink myself so not interested in the booze but the free nosh sounds ok.
has it closed down yet? 35 quid you say?
J.K.
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5:05pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66
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5:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Rosie47 wrote:Nothing to do with me Rosie47, We went there had a great time. We didn't get involved with anyone else. It's a great venue for adults to chill out and enjoy a party there was a good buffet and the place was very clean.
Marky66 wrote:Marky66? There was a party host at JCT2 with the same name who was friends with the bloke who runs the club
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
Over the Edge
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5:32pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:You've shouldn't have mentioned a copper and a school teacher, you will George4th bemoaning the state of society, blaming the lame Labour Government for allowing public servants to have adult fun.
Rosie47 wrote:Nothing to do with me Rosie47, We went there had a great time. We didn't get involved with anyone else. It's a great venue for adults to chill out and enjoy a party there was a good buffet and the place was very clean.
Marky66 wrote:Marky66? There was a party host at JCT2 with the same name who was friends with the bloke who runs the club
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
As I said in my original post the people there were everyday people not pushy and there was plenty of parking at the property. We spent most of the evening chatting with a couple, she was a school teacher and he was a policeman. We attended out of curiosity more than anything and I really can't see what all the fuss is about.
elvisimo
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5:36pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango
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5:59pm Wed 8 Feb 12
elvisimo wrote:an ice rink? Or, even better, and you'll have to 'bare' with me on this, we could have "Swinging on Ice"
close it down and turn it into ....................
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Rosie47
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6:06pm Wed 8 Feb 12
forest hump
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6:34pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango wrote:Just seafood, bearded clams
elvisimo wrote:I'm all for free nosh, is beaver on the menu?dango wrote: has it closed down yet? 35 quid you say?yes - but apparently the have " Mad February" offer. free glass of food and buffet for the month. Dont drink myself so not interested in the booze but the free nosh sounds ok.
dango
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6:34pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Rosie47 wrote:yeah yeah I got all that! So, what damage is it causing? A moral decline? I'd say not, read some history. A parking violation? Again, I'd say not, if previous posters info can be corroborated. A nuiscance to up-tight NIMBY's? Yes, that's more likely.
This article is actually about the fact that a business is being run from a domestic house with people paying an entrance fee when it is not a registered business and does not comply with the local building regulations.
dango
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6:47pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66
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6:50pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango
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6:52pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:hear hear!
If they are still having parties I think we'll go to show our support. This "nanny state" is getting ridiculous when you can't have a party in a residential house, especially one that doesn't have immediate neighbours.
I have seen worse things happen at an office Christmas party or up against a wall at the back of the pub after closing. At least this is happening in private and not in public areas.
IronLady2010
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6:53pm Wed 8 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2
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6:55pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango wrote:I agree with Rosie47, this is about them not having planning. No-one much cares about what they're doing inside. It would be interesting to see how many in this column would get upset if they wanted to start off a business at home but had to spend out on planning and stuff. They are trying to get round planning laws and stuff. Or if this was in their backyard lol... would I want my kids being next door to people coming and going in fetish gear???? perhaps not lol however it would give me plenty of amusement ! :P as someone said it is rather funny!
Rosie47 wrote:yeah yeah I got all that! So, what damage is it causing? A moral decline? I'd say not, read some history. A parking violation? Again, I'd say not, if previous posters info can be corroborated. A nuiscance to up-tight NIMBY's? Yes, that's more likely.
This article is actually about the fact that a business is being run from a domestic house with people paying an entrance fee when it is not a registered business and does not comply with the local building regulations.
cantthinkofone
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7:07pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66
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7:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2 wrote:I understand what you are saying but it is a residential house where somebody lives that is not overlooked in anyway and is totally secluded.
dango wrote:I agree with Rosie47, this is about them not having planning. No-one much cares about what they're doing inside. It would be interesting to see how many in this column would get upset if they wanted to start off a business at home but had to spend out on planning and stuff. They are trying to get round planning laws and stuff. Or if this was in their backyard lol... would I want my kids being next door to people coming and going in fetish gear???? perhaps not lol however it would give me plenty of amusement ! :P as someone said it is rather funny!
Rosie47 wrote:yeah yeah I got all that! So, what damage is it causing? A moral decline? I'd say not, read some history. A parking violation? Again, I'd say not, if previous posters info can be corroborated. A nuiscance to up-tight NIMBY's? Yes, that's more likely.
This article is actually about the fact that a business is being run from a domestic house with people paying an entrance fee when it is not a registered business and does not comply with the local building regulations.
What they do is none of my concern, but it's a dwelling and a 'change of use' therefore they should apply for planning like anyone else... its' not prostitution they're all consenting adults but they're using a dwelling for other purposes - unfair? perhaps but that's why we have planning laws.....
dango
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7:12pm Wed 8 Feb 12
danny boils
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7:29pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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7:37pm Wed 8 Feb 12
danny boils wrote:Just googled it. That is a different story as it's a commercial premises which pays business rates although I do question this....
Meanwhile in Soton there's the Pink Broadway sauna just down the road from Debenhams with gay sex going on in there all day long. Where's the Echo article on that place?
cantthinkofone
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8:06pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dango wrote:Except it isn't a private members club.
if, as you say, "no-one much cares about what they're doing inside", and if "what they do is none of your concern", then why should it be refused planning permision? I'd rather see the house well maintained, kempt and unobtrusive & paying council tax rather than empty. If the NFDC were REALLY savvy, they would introduce a private members club business tax for properties such as this.
ShakeyWiffles
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8:13pm Wed 8 Feb 12
elvisimo wrote:Free glass of food? What does this mean?! Do you get plates of drink?
dango wrote:yes - but apparently the have " Mad February" offer. free glass of food and buffet for the month. Dont drink myself so not interested in the booze but the free nosh sounds ok.
has it closed down yet? 35 quid you say?
Reality-man
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8:41pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Over the Edge
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8:46pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Reality-man wrote:Get yourself over there Reality Man,,,hahaha
According to their website 'JCT2' they are very much still open for business
DontDoVanilla
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9:07pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Reality-man
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9:17pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Over the Edge wrote:I'm waiting till Friday for the BBW party.
Reality-man wrote:Get yourself over there Reality Man,,,hahaha
According to their website 'JCT2' they are very much still open for business
IronLady2010
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9:22pm Wed 8 Feb 12
DontDoVanilla wrote:What happened to satisfying your own wife/husband without the need for others?
Love these people who have never visited a sex/swingers/fetish club and think they know everything about them.
Here's a shock for you. At a "sex" club you will find a variety of open-minded people having fun.
Some have sex, some dress up, some play in the dungeons, some just chat with open-minded individuals.
Very few, if any, ever get drunk.
None of them EVER touch, grope or make inappropriate suggestions to each other.
Sex is ALWAYS safe. Condoms with strangers. Simple.
Let's think about your local town nightspot on a Saturday night.
Predatory males, females in more revealing outfits than many at the "sex club" mostly getting drunk, hammered, slaughtered. Pouncing on each other, ending up in some random stranger's bed, not knowing what happened, with who and whether or not protection was used.
Think about it.
danny boils
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9:52pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634
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10:07pm Wed 8 Feb 12
andysaints007
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10:08pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
andysaints007
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10:11pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634
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10:16pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:What happens if your less keen on cucumbers than most women? Oysters are expensive
DontDoVanilla wrote:What happened to satisfying your own wife/husband without the need for others?
Love these people who have never visited a sex/swingers/fetish club and think they know everything about them.
Here's a shock for you. At a "sex" club you will find a variety of open-minded people having fun.
Some have sex, some dress up, some play in the dungeons, some just chat with open-minded individuals.
Very few, if any, ever get drunk.
None of them EVER touch, grope or make inappropriate suggestions to each other.
Sex is ALWAYS safe. Condoms with strangers. Simple.
Let's think about your local town nightspot on a Saturday night.
Predatory males, females in more revealing outfits than many at the "sex club" mostly getting drunk, hammered, slaughtered. Pouncing on each other, ending up in some random stranger's bed, not knowing what happened, with who and whether or not protection was used.
Think about it.
I used to have a thing for Tom Cruise years back, but it was fantasy.
If I get desperate Asda sell cucumbers for 70p
George4th
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10:33pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634
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10:42pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:George
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
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Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
Marky66
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10:44pm Wed 8 Feb 12
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
IronLady2010
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10:46pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
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Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
George4th
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10:59pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
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Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
Jimmyj_634
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10:59pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:What a closed mind you have. How many couples have a sex toy in their bedside drawer or use sexy lingerie (man or wife ;-)).
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
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Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
IronLady2010
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11:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634 wrote:The cucumber was a joke! The only thing that matters in my life is that I love my hubby, Sex is a pleasure not a need!
IronLady2010 wrote:What a closed mind you have. How many couples have a sex toy in their bedside drawer or use sexy lingerie (man or wife ;-)).
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
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Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
5 minutes ago you were buying cucumbers from ASDA !
Sex is not as the bible states it... It is a human condition. Love is all that counts when it comes to morals.
If you open your mind you'll see so much more..but you don't have to join in
andysaints007
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11:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
joesar
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11:10pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634
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11:10pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:George you know you're absolutely right, this does happen. But you know there's also a few accounts , more than a few, where married partners have sex with the husband out of duty ...dreadful isn't it. Glad to say that we fit into neither demographic. , maybe you should meet some And read less about it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
>
I read where research found that in most cases, one partner did not really want to be a swinger and was only doing it to keep their partner happy. It also found that most swinger relationships ended.
(Strangely, it mirrors heterosexual partnerships where in most cases, one partner would actually prefer to get married but compromises, often silently)
IronLady2010
says...
11:12pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Food and water is a need.
Jimmyj_634 wrote:The cucumber was a joke! The only thing that matters in my life is that I love my hubby, Sex is a pleasure not a need!
IronLady2010 wrote:What a closed mind you have. How many couples have a sex toy in their bedside drawer or use sexy lingerie (man or wife ;-)).
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
5 minutes ago you were buying cucumbers from ASDA !
Sex is not as the bible states it... It is a human condition. Love is all that counts when it comes to morals.
If you open your mind you'll see so much more..but you don't have to join in
George4th
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11:16pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634 wrote:LIke the Lady said "Sex is a pleasure not a need"
George4th wrote:George you know you're absolutely right, this does happen. But you know there's also a few accounts , more than a few, where married partners have sex with the husband out of duty ...dreadful isn't it. Glad to say that we fit into neither demographic. , maybe you should meet some And read less about it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
>
I read where research found that in most cases, one partner did not really want to be a swinger and was only doing it to keep their partner happy. It also found that most swinger relationships ended.
(Strangely, it mirrors heterosexual partnerships where in most cases, one partner would actually prefer to get married but compromises, often silently)
Jimmyj_634
says...
11:23pm Wed 8 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Then go live on bread and water. We choose life
IronLady2010 wrote:Food and water is a need.
Jimmyj_634 wrote:The cucumber was a joke! The only thing that matters in my life is that I love my hubby, Sex is a pleasure not a need!
IronLady2010 wrote:What a closed mind you have. How many couples have a sex toy in their bedside drawer or use sexy lingerie (man or wife ;-)).
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
5 minutes ago you were buying cucumbers from ASDA !
Sex is not as the bible states it... It is a human condition. Love is all that counts when it comes to morals.
If you open your mind you'll see so much more..but you don't have to join in
Anything else is a luxury :-)
andysaints007
says...
11:24pm Wed 8 Feb 12
joesar wrote:I'm looking forward to sh*gging your missus at the weekend again!!!
We have been going to jct2 for some years now, we allways have a great time and have made some excellent friends by meeting them there, all i can say is we have allways parked outside the house and never on the road there is never too much noise and the place is so remote you wouldn't hear it anyway....thanks for all the free advertising though looking forward to the weekend ...bet the place is heaving lol see you all there
Marky66
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11:25pm Wed 8 Feb 12
andysaints007 wrote:You obviously have a very small mind which normally means everything is small.
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
Jimmyj_634
says...
11:32pm Wed 8 Feb 12
George4th wrote:Would be interesting to meet with you and your partner and to look both in the eye to see if there is anything missing. If you are complete then well done you. Just hope that you and she (or he) are really not one of the disillusioned. Do not judge others by your limitations . Good night Casanova
Jimmyj_634 wrote:LIke the Lady said "Sex is a pleasure not a need"
George4th wrote:George you know you're absolutely right, this does happen. But you know there's also a few accounts , more than a few, where married partners have sex with the husband out of duty ...dreadful isn't it. Glad to say that we fit into neither demographic. , maybe you should meet some And read less about it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
>
I read where research found that in most cases, one partner did not really want to be a swinger and was only doing it to keep their partner happy. It also found that most swinger relationships ended.
(Strangely, it mirrors heterosexual partnerships where in most cases, one partner would actually prefer to get married but compromises, often silently)
Happiness is the key to life and if you are happy in your relationship, in love with your partner, the sex is amazing!
IronLady2010
says...
11:37pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634 wrote:Funniest post ever! Credit due!
George4th wrote:Would be interesting to meet with you and your partner and to look both in the eye to see if there is anything missing. If you are complete then well done you. Just hope that you and she (or he) are really not one of the disillusioned. Do not judge others by your limitations . Good night Casanova
Jimmyj_634 wrote:LIke the Lady said "Sex is a pleasure not a need"
George4th wrote:George you know you're absolutely right, this does happen. But you know there's also a few accounts , more than a few, where married partners have sex with the husband out of duty ...dreadful isn't it. Glad to say that we fit into neither demographic. , maybe you should meet some And read less about it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
>
I read where research found that in most cases, one partner did not really want to be a swinger and was only doing it to keep their partner happy. It also found that most swinger relationships ended.
(Strangely, it mirrors heterosexual partnerships where in most cases, one partner would actually prefer to get married but compromises, often silently)
Happiness is the key to life and if you are happy in your relationship, in love with your partner, the sex is amazing!
robbie2712
says...
2:18am Thu 9 Feb 12
MICKEY66
says...
8:11am Thu 9 Feb 12
Lotus toes
says...
8:49am Thu 9 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2
says...
9:12am Thu 9 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:The fact they're taking money (in whatever form) makes it a form of business..... if they were truly altruistic they would do it for nothing. I don't want to be a spoilsport, but domestic dwellings aren't set up with fire safety - these Laws are there for people's safety. What if there was a fire and people couldn't get out. Do they have Public Liability Insurance.. it's a minefield and whilst I have absolutely no problem with what the couples are up to in there, I do have concerns about people trying to 'get round' laws like this, especially when the rest of us have to set up proper parameters for businesses from home and it is regulated.
freemantlegirl2 wrote:I understand what you are saying but it is a residential house where somebody lives that is not overlooked in anyway and is totally secluded.
dango wrote:I agree with Rosie47, this is about them not having planning. No-one much cares about what they're doing inside. It would be interesting to see how many in this column would get upset if they wanted to start off a business at home but had to spend out on planning and stuff. They are trying to get round planning laws and stuff. Or if this was in their backyard lol... would I want my kids being next door to people coming and going in fetish gear???? perhaps not lol however it would give me plenty of amusement ! :P as someone said it is rather funny!
Rosie47 wrote:yeah yeah I got all that! So, what damage is it causing? A moral decline? I'd say not, read some history. A parking violation? Again, I'd say not, if previous posters info can be corroborated. A nuiscance to up-tight NIMBY's? Yes, that's more likely.
This article is actually about the fact that a business is being run from a domestic house with people paying an entrance fee when it is not a registered business and does not comply with the local building regulations.
What they do is none of my concern, but it's a dwelling and a 'change of use' therefore they should apply for planning like anyone else... its' not prostitution they're all consenting adults but they're using a dwelling for other purposes - unfair? perhaps but that's why we have planning laws.....
They are holding parties which are not for gain, £35 contribution is a small amount to attend a £500,000 house party with buffet, jacuzzi (and I know how much it costs to run one), all of the washing, cleaning up after. Not to mention the addition to their utility bills.
If it was being run as a business then I'm fairly sure they would soon go out of business.
George4th
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11:57am Thu 9 Feb 12
Jimmyj_634 wrote:You don't get it do you?
George4th wrote:Would be interesting to meet with you and your partner and to look both in the eye to see if there is anything missing. If you are complete then well done you. Just hope that you and she (or he) are really not one of the disillusioned. Do not judge others by your limitations . Good night Casanova
Jimmyj_634 wrote:LIke the Lady said "Sex is a pleasure not a need"
George4th wrote:George you know you're absolutely right, this does happen. But you know there's also a few accounts , more than a few, where married partners have sex with the husband out of duty ...dreadful isn't it. Glad to say that we fit into neither demographic. , maybe you should meet some And read less about it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I agree with you 100%.
George4th wrote:Don't you find it strange that a couple can't satisfy their own needs as a partner relationship?
Interesting to read some people's proclivity to daydream and some peoples justifications for sexual proclivities........
.
Either way, society is fortunate that they are a minuscule minority............
In my mind if you stray elsewhere, something isn't right in your current relationship, which may need help?
I assume some of these people have kids, who are in turn learning off their parents?
>
I read where research found that in most cases, one partner did not really want to be a swinger and was only doing it to keep their partner happy. It also found that most swinger relationships ended.
(Strangely, it mirrors heterosexual partnerships where in most cases, one partner would actually prefer to get married but compromises, often silently)
Happiness is the key to life and if you are happy in your relationship, in love with your partner, the sex is amazing!
Lotus toes
says...
2:13pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Angel308
says...
5:04pm Thu 9 Feb 12
the-blogger
says...
7:18pm Thu 9 Feb 12
mistyme
says...
11:08pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Chipster
says...
9:47am Fri 10 Feb 12
George4th wrote:George, I've read your previous comments regarding SFC on the sports forum and now this!
If the earlier comments are an example of our society today then it is no wonder the country has the problems it has......
andysaints007
says...
1:50pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Marky66 wrote:Wind your neck in mate - I was messing with you - but it does seem that I have hit a raw nerve though !! I am far from small minded buddy and I don't really give a toss what other people get up to - but I do know one thing - I would never, ever take my wife anywhere near somewhere like that !! You truly are kidding yourself if you think everyone that goes to these places are normal and nice!! Most people are but I know a few that actually go there and believe me I would not let a couple of them within a mile of my missus!!!
andysaints007 wrote:You obviously have a very small mind which normally means everything is small.
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
Just because a couple goes to an adult themed party doesn't mean that they participate in partner swapping. If you read my posts on here you would see that we went because we were curious about it and we are open minded enough to want to see what goes on.
I can tell you that you wouldn't last 5 minutes in there with your crude attitude. Just because someone is at a party of this nature doesn't mean they are there to fulfill your sexual desires. We were there for at least 5 hours and never did a thing but we had some good adult conversation with people from all walks of life.
One of the main party rules is that no means no. We were asked if we were going upstairs but a polite no thanks meant we weren't bothered anymore.
I have now told you no twice. Which is twice more than we had to say it at the party.
Strange how you get more respect in a swingers club than you do on here.
andysaints007
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1:55pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Angel308 wrote:Well I have to admit you bring new meaning to the expression of loving, trusting and enriched relationships!! I never realised that included watching a stranger f**k the a** off the mother or father of your kids or the love of your life !! I think you will find it actually means the opposite and you are obviously not 100% satisfied with your partner. Up to you what you do but please don't try and fob us off with a load of old bulls*it
Seriously people, if you haven't tried things or been there don't comment. Just because people in a loving, trusting, enriched relationship choose to explore their fantasies together, what's wrong with that?
The problem arises when one party 'forces' the other in to something or they do it for the wrong reasons, and yes some people do try things for the wrong reasons, but not everyone!
ladyLush
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10:05pm Fri 10 Feb 12
jimmy.little
says...
4:10pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ladyLush wrote:did you go to the "greedy girl" night? any good?
I have been there loads of times. It's a great place, but it IS a business. If you don't pay - you don't get in! AND you have to bring your own drinks!!!
Sometimes it has been busy and you have to park over the road in the lay-by. It is a shame the stupid council wants to close it though! They're not doing any harm (except maybe avoiding paying tax)....
Rosie47
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6:18pm Sat 11 Feb 12
headworm
says...
7:39am Sun 12 Feb 12
andysaints007 wrote:You are one disrespectful individual and offering money for sex is a criminal offense btw.
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
andysaints007
says...
6:00pm Sun 12 Feb 12
headworm wrote:I only asked to 'bounce' on her u plum so mind your own business
andysaints007 wrote:You are one disrespectful individual and offering money for sex is a criminal offense btw.
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
andysaints007
says...
6:02pm Sun 12 Feb 12
andysaints007 wrote:..and its 'offence' by the way
headworm wrote:I only asked to 'bounce' on her u plum so mind your own business
andysaints007 wrote:You are one disrespectful individual and offering money for sex is a criminal offense btw.
Marky66 wrote:I did!!! - and you were both there - which says a lot - so come on then mate I will give you £35 if you let me, then u can go back again !!
andysaints007 wrote:You wouldn't stand a chance my friend. Read the post before commenting
Marky66 wrote:Hey Marky66 if you are having trouble satisfying your wife can I have a bounce on her please !! pmsl
I visited this club with my wife about 18 months ago and had a thoroughly good evening. The other party guests are friendly and not at all pushy. We went along to see what it was like, we didn't do anything with anyone else but had a great time just like a normal party.
I can't understand about the parking issue, there's parking for a lot of cars at the front and the nearest neighbour is about half a mile down the road so I can't see how they are having cars parked outside their houses. I think the Daily Echo should report fact and not fiction.
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Taskforce 141 says...
11:14am Wed 8 Feb 12
If people are in too sexual exploration why must people meddle, just let them get on with it, they are not harming anyone for god sake.