Tory Lymington councillor Penny Jackman slaps UKIP candidate Mike Beggs

Councillor slaps election candidate

Penny Jackman

Mike Beggs

First published in New Forest Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter, New Forest

A town hall by-election ended in violence when a 72-year-old candidate was slapped by a Conservative councillor.

UKIP member Mike Beggs was attending the count at Lymington Town Hall when he was struck by Tory Penny Jackman, a member of the district council and the New Forest National Park Authority.

Mr Beggs, of Lymington, said the blow broke the four-tooth bridge in his upper left jaw and had caused him sleepless nights.

Cllr Jackman took exception to Mr Beggs's election leaflets, which mentioned the controversial attempt by the town council to evict Lymington cricket Club from the town centre ground it has occupied for 175 years.

The leaflets cited one meeting at which Cllr Jackman clashed with the cricketers and told a fellow councillor: “Let's shut the buggers down.”

Mr Beggs said he was subjected to a “tirade” of abuse by Cllr Jackman at the count and was suddenly slapped in the face.

He added: “I have had a full apology from Cllr Jackman in which she is most apologetic. She has assured me it will not happen again.”

In a statement Cllr Jackman said: “I have known Mike Beggs for about 14 years since our children attended Hordle Walhampton School together plus various parties, clubs and other out-of-school gatherings over the years. I considered him a friend.

“I deeply regret the incident that occurred at the Lymington and Pennington Town Council by-election count.

“I apologised the following day and Mike was gracious enough to accept my apology. I have no further comment to make.”

The by-election, caused by the resignation of Jean Vernon-Jackson, was won by Conservative candidate Michael White.

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9:50am Fri 17 Feb 12

St Retford says...

Haha - has anyone seen Alan Patridge's spoof political debate A Partridge Over Britain when the tory ends up attacking a student dressed up as Kojak, thereby losing the safest conservative seat in the country? This reminds me of that.

PS if anyone wants to give Nigel Farage a quick slap then I won't tell anyone.
Haha - has anyone seen Alan Patridge's spoof political debate A Partridge Over Britain when the tory ends up attacking a student dressed up as Kojak, thereby losing the safest conservative seat in the country? This reminds me of that. PS if anyone wants to give Nigel Farage a quick slap then I won't tell anyone. St Retford
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9:57am Fri 17 Feb 12

SOULJACKER says...

Hahaha, that is too dayam funny....

Politics at is best.......in the words of Harry Hill........FIGHT!

:)))))
Hahaha, that is too dayam funny.... Politics at is best.......in the words of Harry Hill........FIGHT! :))))) SOULJACKER
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9:58am Fri 17 Feb 12

Stillness says...

wearing a baseball cap at his age he deserves a good slap. He should count himself lucky, many politicians would happily pay for a good smacking from a woman in a position of power. To be honest I'd give it a try myself if I could afford it. Maybe the Echo readers could have a whip round for me?
wearing a baseball cap at his age he deserves a good slap. He should count himself lucky, many politicians would happily pay for a good smacking from a woman in a position of power. To be honest I'd give it a try myself if I could afford it. Maybe the Echo readers could have a whip round for me? Stillness
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9:59am Fri 17 Feb 12

Goldenwight says...

Unusual for a Councillor to be attacking anyone else...particularly when they are able to defend themselves.

But hey, come on- haven't we all wanted to land a couple of blows on Royston? Please form an orderly queue...
Unusual for a Councillor to be attacking anyone else...particularly when they are able to defend themselves. But hey, come on- haven't we all wanted to land a couple of blows on Royston? Please form an orderly queue... Goldenwight
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10:01am Fri 17 Feb 12

Torchie1 says...

I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink.
I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink. Torchie1
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10:14am Fri 17 Feb 12

Lone Ranger. says...

No offence meant but ....... does this bring a new meaning to the phrase ........ Tory Slapper .....
No offence meant but ....... does this bring a new meaning to the phrase ........ Tory Slapper ..... Lone Ranger.
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10:23am Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

Torchie1 wrote:
I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink.
Remind you of anyone..? ;)
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink.[/p][/quote]Remind you of anyone..? ;) Shoong
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10:27am Fri 17 Feb 12

Torchie1 says...

Shoong wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink.
Remind you of anyone..? ;)
Every Party has one and wonders why the vote collapses.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: I expect there will be some angry people in Lymington who read this story and begrudge the fact that someone else had the pleasure of slapping this silly little mans face. What she did was wrong but try to imagine being talked down by someone who is 'always right', believes he knows everything about everything, won't accept alternative views, won't listen, always talks over everybody and probably wonders why he is so unpopular. If I ever meet Councillor Jackman, I'll buy her a drink.[/p][/quote]Remind you of anyone..? ;)[/p][/quote]Every Party has one and wonders why the vote collapses. Torchie1
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10:31am Fri 17 Feb 12

rightway says...

Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man.
If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped.
The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply.
Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory.
Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand. rightway
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10:38am Fri 17 Feb 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

rightway wrote:
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man.
If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped.
The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply.
Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory.
Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts.

I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
[quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable! freemantlegirl2
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10:42am Fri 17 Feb 12

Torchie1 says...

rightway wrote:
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man.
If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped.
The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply.
Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory.
Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
You can't defend the situation but accepting the apology before scuttling off to the newspapers after he lost the election sums this little man up entirely.
[quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]You can't defend the situation but accepting the apology before scuttling off to the newspapers after he lost the election sums this little man up entirely. Torchie1
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10:47am Fri 17 Feb 12

AndyAndrews says...

Anyone standing for the loony right UKIP deserves a slap. Ditto Tory candidates. As Harry Hill would say, "Fight...."
Anyone standing for the loony right UKIP deserves a slap. Ditto Tory candidates. As Harry Hill would say, "Fight...." AndyAndrews
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11:04am Fri 17 Feb 12

Linesman says...

There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council.

No apology from the leading Slapper though.
There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council. No apology from the leading Slapper though. Linesman
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11:54am Fri 17 Feb 12

Maine Lobster says...

rightway wrote:
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
Disgusting behaviouir from someone who should know better. She ought to resign and be prevented from holding public office.
So much for the Tory supporters who make allegations of bullying against the trade unions! Here is an example of one of your Tory bullies committing an assault against an elderly man. Justify that can you?
[quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]Disgusting behaviouir from someone who should know better. She ought to resign and be prevented from holding public office. So much for the Tory supporters who make allegations of bullying against the trade unions! Here is an example of one of your Tory bullies committing an assault against an elderly man. Justify that can you? Maine Lobster
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12:20pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...'

Then the stupid factor kicked in.
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in. Shoong
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12:24pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
rightway wrote:
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
Disgusting behaviouir from someone who should know better. She ought to resign and be prevented from holding public office.
So much for the Tory supporters who make allegations of bullying against the trade unions! Here is an example of one of your Tory bullies committing an assault against an elderly man. Justify that can you?
Let's look no further than Florence Anderson for a bit of balance...

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/politics
/8096040/Labour-coun
cillor-calls-for-Mar
garet-Thatcher-to-bu
rn-in-hell.html

&

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-tyn
e-17069083
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]Disgusting behaviouir from someone who should know better. She ought to resign and be prevented from holding public office. So much for the Tory supporters who make allegations of bullying against the trade unions! Here is an example of one of your Tory bullies committing an assault against an elderly man. Justify that can you?[/p][/quote]Let's look no further than Florence Anderson for a bit of balance... http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/politics /8096040/Labour-coun cillor-calls-for-Mar garet-Thatcher-to-bu rn-in-hell.html & http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-tyn e-17069083 Shoong
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12:27pm Fri 17 Feb 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

Maine Lobster assumes there was some kind of secret meeting of all 20 million tory voters beforehand and they all agreed that Jackman should give the old git a slap. Full marks Maine - you're on to them.
I saw the entire tory electorate out foxhunting the other day, and they all took turns to kick a Big Issue seller as well.
Maine Lobster assumes there was some kind of secret meeting of all 20 million tory voters beforehand and they all agreed that Jackman should give the old git a slap. Full marks Maine - you're on to them. I saw the entire tory electorate out foxhunting the other day, and they all took turns to kick a Big Issue seller as well. MisterGrimsdale
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12:42pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Maine Lobster says...

Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity. Maine Lobster
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1:06pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Stillness wrote:
wearing a baseball cap at his age he deserves a good slap. He should count himself lucky, many politicians would happily pay for a good smacking from a woman in a position of power. To be honest I'd give it a try myself if I could afford it. Maybe the Echo readers could have a whip round for me?
Its not a baseball cap, its a cricket club cap
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: wearing a baseball cap at his age he deserves a good slap. He should count himself lucky, many politicians would happily pay for a good smacking from a woman in a position of power. To be honest I'd give it a try myself if I could afford it. Maybe the Echo readers could have a whip round for me?[/p][/quote]Its not a baseball cap, its a cricket club cap southy
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1:13pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism
Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism southy
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1:22pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
I am an 'ordinary working person' you berk.

I am not a member of the Tory party or any political party. Therefore they cannot be my colleagues.

I do not have a Pension. Despite being in the private sector, it would seem, unbelievably, I am not knee deep in £20 notes (Bob Crowe & David Prentice are though) so I can't afford one.

Did you read up or Google up 'Florence Anderson'? No, because only Tories go 'round slapping people don't they, what's worse? A slap or 'liking' the IRA blow up a conference of people?

Silly boy.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]I am an 'ordinary working person' you berk. I am not a member of the Tory party or any political party. Therefore they cannot be my colleagues. I do not have a Pension. Despite being in the private sector, it would seem, unbelievably, I am not knee deep in £20 notes (Bob Crowe & David Prentice are though) so I can't afford one. Did you read up or Google up 'Florence Anderson'? No, because only Tories go 'round slapping people don't they, what's worse? A slap or 'liking' the IRA blow up a conference of people? Silly boy. Shoong
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1:24pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism
Labour vs TUSC = Dumb V Dumber
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism[/p][/quote]Labour vs TUSC = Dumb V Dumber Shoong
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1:38pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism
Labour vs TUSC = Dumb V Dumber
Labour is just as right wing as the Torys, so its a case of.
Labour V TUSC = Capitalism V Socialism
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Tory V UKIP = Capitalism V Capitalism[/p][/quote]Labour vs TUSC = Dumb V Dumber[/p][/quote]Labour is just as right wing as the Torys, so its a case of. Labour V TUSC = Capitalism V Socialism southy
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1:42pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard. southy
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2:05pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry.

Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle.

This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed.


Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?).
Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you.

Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway.

The sheep probably had it easier.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.[/p][/quote]Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry. Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle. This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed. Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?). Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you. Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway. The sheep probably had it easier. Shoong
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3:47pm Fri 17 Feb 12

bobbyboy says...

There is only one course to take Mrs Jackman has to stand down and face a re-election she committed common assault regardless of cause i should know it cost me my position just for grabbing ones collar and saying you cannot talk to me like that so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.Yes and the person i grabbed was a parisite as well.
There is only one course to take Mrs Jackman has to stand down and face a re-election she committed common assault regardless of cause i should know it cost me my position just for grabbing ones collar and saying you cannot talk to me like that so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.Yes and the person i grabbed was a parisite as well. bobbyboy
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4:18pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry.

Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle.

This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed.


Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?).
Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you.

Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway.

The sheep probably had it easier.
Shoong
here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79.
"This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on.

I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may.

You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923.
Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power.

The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.[/p][/quote]Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry. Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle. This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed. Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?). Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you. Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway. The sheep probably had it easier.[/p][/quote]Shoong here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79. "This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on. I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may. You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923. Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power. The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post southy
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4:23pm Fri 17 Feb 12

chrisdemeanour says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
rightway wrote:
Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man.
If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped.
The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply.
Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory.
Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts.

I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it!
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable![/p][/quote]Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it! chrisdemeanour
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4:38pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

Two right wing Tories fall out and fight!! Who the hell cares!!
Two right wing Tories fall out and fight!! Who the hell cares!! Ant Smoking MP
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4:51pm Fri 17 Feb 12

southy says...

Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Two right wing Tories fall out and fight!! Who the hell cares!!
Not me I would even throw in Right Wing Labour also and tell the winner they had to fight micheal jackson.
[quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: Two right wing Tories fall out and fight!! Who the hell cares!![/p][/quote]Not me I would even throw in Right Wing Labour also and tell the winner they had to fight micheal jackson. southy
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6:01pm Fri 17 Feb 12

RadicalEmu says...

"She has assured me it will not happen again."
.
Hah, classic.
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We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining.
"She has assured me it will not happen again." . Hah, classic. . We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining. RadicalEmu
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6:09pm Fri 17 Feb 12

Goldenwight says...

RadicalEmu wrote:
"She has assured me it will not happen again." . Hah, classic. . We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining.
"May I request that the Rancid Goat Breathed Prime Minister informs the House of his Schedule of appointments for the day?"

"I would refer the foetid dung heap of a shadow chancellor to the answer I gave to his two brain cells short of a six pack leader a few moments ago, assuming that the verminous slime mould can actually remember back five minutes."

Nah, Politicians fighting- never happen, mate!
[quote][p][bold]RadicalEmu[/bold] wrote: "She has assured me it will not happen again." . Hah, classic. . We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining.[/p][/quote]"May I request that the Rancid Goat Breathed Prime Minister informs the House of his Schedule of appointments for the day?" "I would refer the foetid dung heap of a shadow chancellor to the answer I gave to his two brain cells short of a six pack leader a few moments ago, assuming that the verminous slime mould can actually remember back five minutes." Nah, Politicians fighting- never happen, mate! Goldenwight
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8:41pm Fri 17 Feb 12

RadicalEmu says...

Goldenwight wrote:
RadicalEmu wrote:
"She has assured me it will not happen again." . Hah, classic. . We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining.
"May I request that the Rancid Goat Breathed Prime Minister informs the House of his Schedule of appointments for the day?"

"I would refer the foetid dung heap of a shadow chancellor to the answer I gave to his two brain cells short of a six pack leader a few moments ago, assuming that the verminous slime mould can actually remember back five minutes."

Nah, Politicians fighting- never happen, mate!
I mean, actual fighting, not insulting.
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If that's a quote, who and when?
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RadicalEmu[/bold] wrote: "She has assured me it will not happen again." . Hah, classic. . We need more politicians fighting among themselves. Maybe take each other out with the mace. That would make PMQs a bit more entertaining.[/p][/quote]"May I request that the Rancid Goat Breathed Prime Minister informs the House of his Schedule of appointments for the day?" "I would refer the foetid dung heap of a shadow chancellor to the answer I gave to his two brain cells short of a six pack leader a few moments ago, assuming that the verminous slime mould can actually remember back five minutes." Nah, Politicians fighting- never happen, mate![/p][/quote]I mean, actual fighting, not insulting. . If that's a quote, who and when? RadicalEmu
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9:56am Sat 18 Feb 12

rich the stitch says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry.

Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle.

This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed.


Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?).
Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you.

Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway.

The sheep probably had it easier.
Shoong
here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79.
"This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on.

I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may.

You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923.
Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power.

The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post
212 votes! Is that all you manged to get? What a joke. But then again you come across as such an idiot that I'm surprised you got that many.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.[/p][/quote]Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry. Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle. This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed. Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?). Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you. Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway. The sheep probably had it easier.[/p][/quote]Shoong here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79. "This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on. I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may. You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923. Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power. The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post[/p][/quote]212 votes! Is that all you manged to get? What a joke. But then again you come across as such an idiot that I'm surprised you got that many. rich the stitch
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10:20am Sat 18 Feb 12

Big Borlotto says...

Linesman wrote:
There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council.

No apology from the leading Slapper though.
the employees at Southampton city council have had more than a slap. they have been done over by this Tory council. and the trouble is they are still carrying on. roll on may
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council. No apology from the leading Slapper though.[/p][/quote]the employees at Southampton city council have had more than a slap. they have been done over by this Tory council. and the trouble is they are still carrying on. roll on may Big Borlotto
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3:17pm Sat 18 Feb 12

southy says...

rich the stitch wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry.

Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle.

This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed.


Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?).
Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you.

Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway.

The sheep probably had it easier.
Shoong
here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79.
"This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on.

I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may.

You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923.
Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power.

The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post
212 votes! Is that all you manged to get? What a joke. But then again you come across as such an idiot that I'm surprised you got that many.
Its better than what the very first labour candidate got in Southampton I took 6.1% of the vote, that very first Labour candidate got 2.8% of the votes in Southampton.
212 votes is better than the Tory base votes in Redbridge ward, I yet to find out what will be the Base votes for the TUSC in Redbridge ward.
And also I was only 32 votes short of over hauling the Lib/Dem vote.
I have Labour worried here in Redbridge, they even publicalley named there Candidate for Redbridge 1 mth early so he can get a longer run up, the only thing for sure in this area is that Torys will lose this ward, and thats going to happen weather if people vote Labour or TUSC the battle for Redbridge is on.
But don't watch this area for a shock result it will not be this ward that will produce it, but the one next door to the shock result last year where a Tory lost his ward to Labour.
[quote][p][bold]rich the stitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.[/p][/quote]Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry. Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle. This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed. Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?). Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you. Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway. The sheep probably had it easier.[/p][/quote]Shoong here we go again guessing again about me, oh by the way I done a bit of self employed also back in the early 80's when jobs was being lost in even greater higher numbers than they was in 1978-79. "This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. thats a joke I hope, Capitalism means greed for one self and not to care about others, in Capitalism its not a case of what you know its a case of who you know or related to and if you don't know any one it a case of who you can brown tongue just to get some thing. So if you call brown tonguing ambition or determination it will be the only part that you be right on. I will improve on 212 votes that I am sure off, how much I not sure yet have a better idea on the first week of may. You really do need to read books Lenin was no dictator that is just pure 100% false propaganda, Look at what he done, made workers have a much bigger say in the work place and in politics, He started up the Co-op industarys in Russia that was run by the work force and was proving to be a successe, In politics he allowed others to contribute and let them remain in government, which was true Communism down fall, because of the Capitalist Provincialist who Stalin belong took over power again in 1923. Lenin never sent any one to there deaths not even the Russian Royal Family he was against that, he even tired to find another country for them to go to England, Cananda and the USA was ask if they could take them on, but all 3 refused to have them like all other countrys refused before they was even offered. who ordered the deaths of the Royal Family is not known not even to this day, the paper that had the order was distroyed it was only said it came from the Russian government, and if it did which one groups signed it, this was a problem with Lenin Co-op Government, but the Capitalist Provinicalist was more than likely the ones, they wanted total power. The 2 to 3 million deaths your on about was cause though the Russian Civil war that followed started by the white army ( when the provinalist lost control of the main body of there army to the imperialist ) that civil was lasted between the very end of 1917 to 1923 the last gun was fired in 1922, but the last stage happened in 1923 when the easten army commander surrended and Lenin Government allowed him to keep his post[/p][/quote]212 votes! Is that all you manged to get? What a joke. But then again you come across as such an idiot that I'm surprised you got that many.[/p][/quote]Its better than what the very first labour candidate got in Southampton I took 6.1% of the vote, that very first Labour candidate got 2.8% of the votes in Southampton. 212 votes is better than the Tory base votes in Redbridge ward, I yet to find out what will be the Base votes for the TUSC in Redbridge ward. And also I was only 32 votes short of over hauling the Lib/Dem vote. I have Labour worried here in Redbridge, they even publicalley named there Candidate for Redbridge 1 mth early so he can get a longer run up, the only thing for sure in this area is that Torys will lose this ward, and thats going to happen weather if people vote Labour or TUSC the battle for Redbridge is on. But don't watch this area for a shock result it will not be this ward that will produce it, but the one next door to the shock result last year where a Tory lost his ward to Labour. southy
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4:04pm Sat 18 Feb 12

southy says...

Big Borlotto wrote:
Linesman wrote:
There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council.

No apology from the leading Slapper though.
the employees at Southampton city council have had more than a slap. they have been done over by this Tory council. and the trouble is they are still carrying on. roll on may
And they will get done over by a Labour Council to
[quote][p][bold]Big Borlotto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: There are many Southampton City Council employees that have had a 'Slap in the face' from the Tory Council. No apology from the leading Slapper though.[/p][/quote]the employees at Southampton city council have had more than a slap. they have been done over by this Tory council. and the trouble is they are still carrying on. roll on may[/p][/quote]And they will get done over by a Labour Council to southy
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5:20pm Sun 19 Feb 12

rightway says...

chrisdemeanour wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
rightway wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it!
Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters.
Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.
[quote][p][bold]chrisdemeanour[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable![/p][/quote]Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it![/p][/quote]Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner. rightway
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6:57pm Sun 19 Feb 12

Torchie1 says...

rightway wrote:
chrisdemeanour wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
rightway wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it!
Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters.
Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.
Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior.
[quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrisdemeanour[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable![/p][/quote]Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it![/p][/quote]Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.[/p][/quote]Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior. Torchie1
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7:59pm Sun 19 Feb 12

andysaints007 says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Shoong wrote:
This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.
You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.
No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.
Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry.

Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle.

This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed.


Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?).
Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you.

Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway.

The sheep probably had it easier.
I second that !!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: This was all good until the sentence beginning 'So much...' Then the stupid factor kicked in.[/p][/quote]You are one of the usual suspects who is normally chomping at the bit to decry ordinary working people and lobby for your Tory colleagues. You have no right to preach to anyone about objectivity.[/p][/quote]No Maine Lobster you are wrong there, that I am sure off. Shoong is one of those Capitalist Sheep thats being herded to the slaughterhouse by there shepard.[/p][/quote]Not sure I can be described as a sheep, I don't tend to suckle from the teet of other people's taxes & the state in general & then froth at the mouth when basic economics unfortunately tends to reduce the milk a little bit, lest the milk run completely dry. Maybe if you had tried to make something of your time instead of relying on the state to get you through life then it might not be such a struggle. This horrific capitalist is where he is today through ambition, hard work & self determination. Qualities that I'm sure are probably alien to you. The men in my family have always been self employed. Speaking of ambition, will be interesting to see if you can beat the 212 votes mark this year (what was that, 6% of the vote?). Or will it come in less if some of your supporters go all realistic on you & change to Labour, who have made it clear they are too embarrassed to have anything to do with you. Will you also be mentioning to the people you canvass that one of your idols (if not the only one) is Vladimir Lenin, a psychopathic dictator who sent somewhere between 2 million & 3 million of his own countrymen to their deaths? Probably best if you omit that actually, I'm sure you don't need reminding. It would have probably been kinder to send them to slaughterhouse anyway. The sheep probably had it easier.[/p][/quote]I second that !! andysaints007
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9:58pm Sun 19 Feb 12

rightway says...

Torchie1 wrote:
rightway wrote:
chrisdemeanour wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
rightway wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it!
Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.
Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior.
Only 34 years his junior, thanks for correcting me, that makes all the difference.
A 29-year-old Tory lickspittle attacks a 63 year old, that does seem fair.
I hope you feel really proud of yourself for defending a bully boys actions.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrisdemeanour[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable![/p][/quote]Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it![/p][/quote]Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.[/p][/quote]Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior.[/p][/quote]Only 34 years his junior, thanks for correcting me, that makes all the difference. A 29-year-old Tory lickspittle attacks a 63 year old, that does seem fair. I hope you feel really proud of yourself for defending a bully boys actions. rightway
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12:57am Mon 20 Feb 12

Torchie1 says...

rightway wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
rightway wrote:
chrisdemeanour wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
rightway wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.
I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable!
Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it!
Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.
Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior.
Only 34 years his junior, thanks for correcting me, that makes all the difference.
A 29-year-old Tory lickspittle attacks a 63 year old, that does seem fair.
I hope you feel really proud of yourself for defending a bully boys actions.
Prescott's a thug who took care of himself like a lot of old boys can. It's only people like you who are frightened of the same thing happening to you that make a fuss. Grow a pair.
[quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrisdemeanour[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rightway[/bold] wrote: Like or dislike him, the fact is he is a 72 year old man. If the roles, and ages were reversed there would be a public outcry with demands for his immediate prosecution and resignation, but because he is a man gracious enough to accept her apology the matter will be dropped. The police should investigate this assault with a view to prosecute. Although I have no doubt the one rule for one and another rule for others will apply. Her dismissal from holding any public office should be immediate, of course this will not happen, she is after all a Tory. Resignation is not a word Tories understand.[/p][/quote]I agree, but as they were 'friends' beforehand I think it may have been easier for there to be an apology rather than be some fracas in the courts. I hope she also offered to pay for his dental treatment! but the dignified thing would have been to resign and apologise to everyone including her party for her behaviour, which is clearly totally unacceptable![/p][/quote]Why use this as a stick to beat up the "Tories" it gets so boring, what is your view of that nice gentleman John Prescott, he of the flying fists! he beat up a member of the electorate and got away with it![/p][/quote]Was that the electorate member who attacted John Prescott "who was in his mid sixties" by throwing an egg at point blank range just to saddle up to his Tory masters. Nearly 40 years his junior and still got a slap from the pensioner.[/p][/quote]Prescott wasn't a pensioner in 2001 as he was 63 and the egg thrower was 29 so 'nearly 40 years his junior' is actually 34 years his junior.[/p][/quote]Only 34 years his junior, thanks for correcting me, that makes all the difference. A 29-year-old Tory lickspittle attacks a 63 year old, that does seem fair. I hope you feel really proud of yourself for defending a bully boys actions.[/p][/quote]Prescott's a thug who took care of himself like a lot of old boys can. It's only people like you who are frightened of the same thing happening to you that make a fuss. Grow a pair. Torchie1
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9:47pm Mon 20 Feb 12

rightway says...

I think that you are a little confused; in my opinion John Prescott was right in punching the 29 year old and wiping the smug grin off his face, the look of shock when JP through the left is etched in my memory.
I’m all for people defending themselves but attacking those in their 60s and 70s is not something that thrills me. Maybe it does you.
As for growing a pair, I’m quite happy with what I’ve got, XXL is big enough for me.
I think that you are a little confused; in my opinion John Prescott was right in punching the 29 year old and wiping the smug grin off his face, the look of shock when JP through the left is etched in my memory. I’m all for people defending themselves but attacking those in their 60s and 70s is not something that thrills me. Maybe it does you. As for growing a pair, I’m quite happy with what I’ve got, XXL is big enough for me. rightway
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