West Wellow gypsy site plan is rejected (From Daily Echo)

"Officials said the plans would have a detrimental effect on the countryside" - has any gypsy site not?

"In a report to the planning control committee, borough officers said there “is a need for new gypsy and traveller sites” in Test Valley. "

I bet the person that wrote this report, doesn't live in the Test Valley

Nevermind they will have to carry on living in Hythe

all is not lost............they
've still got Fratton Park!!!.

The borough council in Basingstooke provided a site with all mod cons inc street lighting for gypsies a few years ago. What did the gypsies do? Smashed the place up and ripped out anything that could be sold. The council eventually closed it down. What a waste of piublic money.

I'm not being racist before anyone gets on their high horse - just telling the facts.

Try anywhere up the M27 from junction 9 upwards, I'm sure they would welcome some more up market housing

Redfield wrote:
The borough council in Basingstooke provided a site with all mod cons inc street lighting for gypsies a few years ago. What did the gypsies do? Smashed the place up and ripped out anything that could be sold. The council eventually closed it down. What a waste of piublic money.

I'm not being racist before anyone gets on their high horse - just telling the facts.

Once again - it's a shame that these people are labelled as 'gypsy' when we all know that there several types of Romany people.


This is the loosely labelled 'travelling' community who cause havoc wherever they pitch up and leave a trail of destruction, fly-tipped rubbish, human excrement whilst the local householders have to endure door-knocking pests.

Who in their right mind chooses to let these chancers rip them off with dodgy 'tarmac' drives, roofing jobs, gardening etc.


Also the police figures can verify an increase in localised crime with 'distraction' burglaries mostly against elderly vulnerable OAPs etc.

Stating facts is not 'racist, despite what the loony left liberals keep pumping out.

Genuine travellers should be able to put down some roots if they really need to forsake an itinerant lifestyle. The kids need roots and a decent education which might give them a chance to break away although the traditions are quite strong.

However- the black economy of this cash-based segment of 'workers' means that many of them do not really wish to 'settle down' i.e traceable addresses etc.



Funny enough -many of these people have nice homes back in Eire but choose to pop over here and 'travel' all over the place. I wonder why? Can anyone explain?

King Mush wrote:

Redfield wrote: The borough council in Basingstooke provided a site with all mod cons inc street lighting for gypsies a few years ago. What did the gypsies do? Smashed the place up and ripped out anything that could be sold. The council eventually closed it down. What a waste of piublic money. I'm not being racist before anyone gets on their high horse - just telling the facts.

Once again - it's a shame that these people are labelled as 'gypsy' when we all know that there several types of Romany people. This is the loosely labelled 'travelling' community who cause havoc wherever they pitch up and leave a trail of destruction, fly-tipped rubbish, human excrement whilst the local householders have to endure door-knocking pests. Who in their right mind chooses to let these chancers rip them off with dodgy 'tarmac' drives, roofing jobs, gardening etc. Also the police figures can verify an increase in localised crime with 'distraction' burglaries mostly against elderly vulnerable OAPs etc. Stating facts is not 'racist, despite what the loony left liberals keep pumping out. Genuine travellers should be able to put down some roots if they really need to forsake an itinerant lifestyle. The kids need roots and a decent education which might give them a chance to break away although the traditions are quite strong. However- the black economy of this cash-based segment of 'workers' means that many of them do not really wish to 'settle down' i.e traceable addresses etc. Funny enough -many of these people have nice homes back in Eire but choose to pop over here and 'travel' all over the place. I wonder why? Can anyone explain?

I've heard people tell me about groups going through their gardens, looking through windows etc. The police are weak at dealing with this mob, bound by laws designed to protect rights. Pity the rights of local residents don't apply

I'm sure they would be welcomed with open arms in Hedge End. I'm, putting on me muffler, tightnin' up me braces, and getting out me pony 'n' trap, bruv.

It is not clear, but is this land to be given to them?
If so, then why?
If they are buying the land, then they can apply for normal building permission through the usual channels.

hulla baloo wrote:
It is not clear, but is this land to be given to them? If so, then why? If they are buying the land, then they can apply for normal building permission through the usual channels.

the are abusing the planning system by buying land for one purpose then putting in a planning application over a bank holiday weekend whilst moving the whole hoard in before the authorities can stop them.

Condor Man wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: It is not clear, but is this land to be given to them? If so, then why? If they are buying the land, then they can apply for normal building permission through the usual channels.

the are abusing the planning system by buying land for one purpose then putting in a planning application over a bank holiday weekend whilst moving the whole hoard in before the authorities can stop them.

I am aware that is the procedure they use, but if the law abiding citizen did this, he would feel the weight of the law and have it pulled down. These 'travellers' seem to be above these laws.

hulla baloo wrote:

Condor Man wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: It is not clear, but is this land to be given to them? If so, then why? If they are buying the land, then they can apply for normal building permission through the usual channels.

the are abusing the planning system by buying land for one purpose then putting in a planning application over a bank holiday weekend whilst moving the whole hoard in before the authorities can stop them.

I am aware that is the procedure they use, but if the law abiding citizen did this, he would feel the weight of the law and have it pulled down. These 'travellers' seem to be above these laws.

These "travellers" are a minority group and this is positive discrimination. Just wait until I have to employ some of these individuals by law.

Good Post King Mush. Regarding the tinkers (as opposed to Romanies) It was not many years ago that the police would state that they could only intervene on an illegal traveller site when there was evidence of forced entry. Now of course tinkers regularly use boltcutters and lorries to force locked gates open. And what do the brave boys in blue do? They watch it happen, and arrest any citizens who try and stop them for "breach of the peace!"

King Mush is right, I think nowadays a Romany gypsy is rare to find; a gypsy probably hates having 'travellers' on their site, it even lowers the tone and a gypsy's reputation, they are professional in comparison. No, the traveller is a way of life that opted out of any responsibility, i.e., run away from home, been in prison, does not want to work, and along with the other more professional gypies, get help from the State, no tax, no paying out for rubbish bins, water free, no responsibility at all including a girl who also has no will to support herself - its almost a Shangri La, one can get scruffy, only knows water to drink, no cleaning their little love nest, and probably stoned out of their lives. It all sounds great if one likes DIRT.

goard

Bronson69, Brickfields is at Marchwood/Eling road. No where near Hythe.

espanuel wrote:
Bronson69, Brickfields is at Marchwood/Eling road. No where near Hythe.

He was probably thinking of Netley View...