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A WALL of silence has gone up around Hampshire County Council over how controversial secret bonus payments were paid to top executives.

Council leader Ken Thornber has again refused to speak to the Daily Echo despite numerous requests over the past three days, instead choosing only to issue a brief statement.

He did find time however to appear on television in an attempt to justify what he describes as the “special recognition payments”.

Attempts to contact every member of the all-powerful Cabinet have failed to shed light on how the decision over who received the bonuses had been made, with the majority failing to answer our calls.

Of the three who did stick their heads above the parapet, one refused to comment before hanging up the phone and two could not remember whether discussions had taken place.

As reported in yesterday’s Daily Echo, Cllr Thornber has faced calls to resign from his Liberal Democrat opponents after he previously denied his authority paid any bonuses.

There have also been demands for an inquiry after it emerged that Cllr Thornber authorised handing out the £87,000 at a time when hundreds of council workers had their pay cut as part of a new salary structure and the world was plunged into a financial crisis.

Despite Hampshire County Council spending £858,000 a year of taxpayers’ money on its communications team, they refused to answer questions on how the leader was able to hand out huge bonuses, apparently without the knowledge of fellow councillors, and then denied his authority paid bonuses to staff.

The press office said there was “nothing more to say” on the matter and said it was not possible to set up a meeting with Cllr Thornber.

Cllr Colin Davidovitz, who received £30,114 of taxpayers’ money last year as the council’s executive member for communications and efficiency, refused to make any comment and put the phone down before the Daily Echo could ask any more questions.

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Deputy leader Roy Perry claimed he could “not recall” whether discussions had taken place with Cllr Thornber, who himself received £41,089 in allowances in the last financial year, over the controversial payments.

He said he would not actively encourage an inquiry in to the matter – though he suggested the council’s select committee for policy and resources was free to look into the issue. That committee is chaired by Conservative Cllr Keith Chapman.

Fellow Cabinet member Margaret Snaith-Tempia, who received £29,466 of taxpayers’ money last year as the council’s executive member for culture and recreation, said: “I don’t remember anything about this at all.”

Hampshire’s Conservative MPs were also keeping a low profile in the wake of revelations about the Tory run county council.

Julian Lewis agreed to speak to the Daily Echo to discuss the scandal but instead issued a brief statement in which he merely called for the payments to be deferred.

Dr Lewis, who represents New Forest East, said: “While I realise that these top officers have done an excellent job, saving £65m in the past five years and being sought after – for example – to sort out the ‘Baby Peter’ case in Haringey, it is obvious that any extra rewards for their achievements should be deferred until the economic situation improves and people on much more modest salaries and wages are not being forced to make ends meet.”

Calls to New Forest West MP Desmond Swayne, Fareham MP Mark Hoban, Gosport MP Caroline Dinenage and Winch-ester MP Steve Brine were not returned. Barry Rickman, leader of the Conservative-controlled New Forest District Council, said he was “shocked and surprised” but declined to make any further comment.

The failure to explain the protocol behind the decision-making process and the power held by the leader has been slammed by the Taxpayers Alliance. Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the Taxpayers Alliance, said: “Taxpayers have a right to know how their money is being spent.

“It is both infuriating and unreasonable that communications staff are refusing this information when their wages also come straight from taxpayers pockets. Without transparency about how these decisions are made on bonus payments, there can be no accountability.”

• THE Daily Echo would like to clarify that Hampshire County Council’s £204,000-a-year chief executive is called Andrew Smith, not Andrew Green as we referred to him in yesterday’s End of the Week column.

Comments(23)

Atpost says...
3:57pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Here is a hunch, which may unlock the mystery of the conspiracy and silence.
Check the perpetrators' names against membership and rank of the masonic club.
Just maybe the kings court tufty club in chandlers ford??

Lone Ranger says...
5:01pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Echo quote:-Hampshire’s Conservative MPs were also keeping a low profile in the wake of revelations about the Tory run county council.
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How very convenient that all the local Tory MPs just happened to be unavailable.
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Still to be available 5-6 days a week may be asking a bit much as they are probably building their duck houses or cutting their own wisteria

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Michael S says...
5:19pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Lone Ranger - Could it be that they are only taking to heart what Cameron keeps saying :-
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"We are all in this together."

chapelsaint says...
5:26pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Its public money for goodness sake-we have a right to know the full facts. I was led to believe that lying, fiddling, sleaze, hypocrisy (with the exception of C Huhne MP), were all to be done away with! Fat chance of that says I!

Linesman says...
5:52pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Councillors are supposed to make themselves available to 'HELP' the people that they represent.
Check when the councillor who represents you holds their next surgery, and ask questions.
If you do not like the answers, tell them, and what you intend to do about it when they come up for re-election!

Christine Melsom says...
6:40pm Sat 3 Jul 10

A letter received from an Isitfair supporter in the East Midlands has really made me see red. She asks how we can make the Government and the councils sit up and take notice of the predicament of some pensioners.

Both she and her husband are of pensionable age and receive no state benefits. She had since retirement taken on two cleaning jobs to help pay the £1,200 council tax due on their home. Recently due to the recession she has lost one of these jobs and the second has cut the hours. She has been unable to find other work.

Of course you will say that they should apply for benefits – but they have just too much in the way of savings. Like thousands of other across the country they are asset rich and income poor. Savings are required to pay for the upkeep on a property they have struggled to buy through their working years. It is their rainy day money, put by for emergencies. Unlike Governments, that is what they did, they spent according to their means and saved for those rainy days because, unlike people living in rented property, there is no one else who will pay for replacements and repairs. They are people living on the edge of the benefit system, financially worse off than those receiving all the state benefits.

You can imagine my anger on when a reporter telephoned me to ask my opinion on the bonuses or emoluments being paid to the executive staff on councils throughout the country. People already receiving huge salaries and contributions to their pensions from the public purse, being paid bonuses larger than many of us (including council staff) receive each year to live on and even bring up a family. It seems that monetary restraint applies only to those in the lower echelons of public service.

So here we have, on the one hand, this lady of retirement age worrying about how to pay her council tax bill, and taking on cleaning jobs to do so and, on the other hand, people employed by the council receiving five figure bonuses on top of salaries so enormous they beggar belief. There is something very wrong here.

You may say that these high paid executives are responsible for huge budgets, but are they really? If they are, then why are we paying millions of pounds every year to councillors? Councillors, I would add, who are also receiving high salaries (or if you really want to be picky, allowances), can also join (and do) a very favourable Local Government Pension Scheme. You must remember that everything in the public sector is paid for by the private sector.

The world has gone mad.

Many councils have prepared themselves for shedding staff. They have continued to recruit and still recruit. Last in first out, Easy come, easy go. The impression of shedding staff is all they need to give.

The proposed £250 per annum pay rise for the lowest paid staff now seems to me to be more of an insult. I just hope that when the good times roll the flat monetary rise should apply across the board. The highly paid executives, living in there own little world of protected wealth and advantage, and thumbing their noses at their paymasters, must surely receive their comeuppance.

My View from the Hill says...
7:17pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Someone has been telling porkies.

Silence over bonus's

I thought backhanders were supposed to played at Wimbledon,

Sorry did I say played I meant paid

southy says...
7:29pm Sat 3 Jul 10

politics should be an open book, nothing should be hidden from the public, all that an mp or councilor says or do should be open for the public to see.

Get it right says...
8:05pm Sat 3 Jul 10

southy wrote:
politics should be an open book, nothing should be hidden from the public, all that an mp or councilor says or do should be open for the public to see.
Good luck getting a straight answer out of Thornber. He was a slippery b*stard when he was personnel manager at Mullards (Philips) years ago and hasn't changed.
An un-reformed Thatcherite of the worst kind (not that there are any of a good kind).

Christine Melsom says...
8:14pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Government and Local Government will tell you that they are an open book. You just have to learn how to read it. Bonuses, emoluments, honorariums all mean that the money has to come from somewhere. You have guessed it - your pocket. It is all well and good for Mr. Thornber to say that these executives between them have saved the county £57million. That is why they receive these high salaries. They are paid in expectation that they will serve the council and the tax payer to the best of their ability. They receive enough reward in the way of salary and pension contributions.
Where's my bonus for being a good citizen?
I will now go and have my bread and gruel for supper.

southy says...
8:24pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Get it right wrote:
southy wrote:
politics should be an open book, nothing should be hidden from the public, all that an mp or councilor says or do should be open for the public to see.
Good luck getting a straight answer out of Thornber. He was a slippery b*stard when he was personnel manager at Mullards (Philips) years ago and hasn't changed.
An un-reformed Thatcherite of the worst kind (not that there are any of a good kind).
yes i do remember him there, mr eagle gave him the sack in the end, well not the sack was ask to leave with a gentle push.
so much for the government letting the people be able to sack an mp or a councillor.

EELS MAN says...
10:01pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Filthy greedy pig troughers.
Off with their heads, pigs!

Atpost says...
10:26pm Sat 3 Jul 10

EELS MAN wrote:
Filthy greedy pig troughers. Off with their heads, pigs!
Agree

Stupideditor says...
11:01pm Sat 3 Jul 10

Atpost wrote:
EELS MAN wrote: Filthy greedy pig troughers. Off with their heads, pigs!
Agree
Second

Poppy22 says...
1:03am Sun 4 Jul 10

Councillors' pay/allowances should be standardised across the country according to responsibilities/hou
rs worked and they should not receive bonuses or any other ad-hoc payments. We might then have councillors who are doing the job for the right reason - to represent and serve their community - and not to line their own pockets!

Linesman says...
8:27am Sun 4 Jul 10

Stupideditor wrote:
Atpost wrote:
EELS MAN wrote: Filthy greedy pig troughers. Off with their heads, pigs!
Agree
Second
I disagree!
You are slandering pigs!
Pigs are supposed to have their snouts in the trough, Councillors are not!

goard says...
10:46am Sun 4 Jul 10

I think people with power are actually 'thick skinned', they have no conscience, are greedy, will stamp on anyone that blocks their way, and in due course will ALWAYS get back at their adversary. A normal human would die of shame rather than having any of these bad traits - but what to do how to stop these bad eggs?

goard

Linesman says...
12:21pm Sun 4 Jul 10

goard wrote:
I think people with power are actually 'thick skinned', they have no conscience, are greedy, will stamp on anyone that blocks their way, and in due course will ALWAYS get back at their adversary. A normal human would die of shame rather than having any of these bad traits - but what to do how to stop these bad eggs? goard
The answer lies in the ballot box!
These people rule because, for many, Apathy rules at the ballot box while others turn a blind eye.

samantha pia says...
1:07pm Sun 4 Jul 10

they are all in it for their own monitory gains. nothing more.

Atpost says...
7:31pm Sun 4 Jul 10

samantha pia wrote:
they are all in it for their own monitory gains. nothing more.
monitory?

Thanks love, now go and make the tea!

geoff51 says...
9:24pm Sun 4 Jul 10

Atpost wrote:
samantha pia wrote: they are all in it for their own monitory gains. nothing more.
monitory? Thanks love, now go and make the tea!
If you can only being rude and insulting why dont you post on the Daily Mirror forums with all the other labour party supporters.
They will appreciate your insults

Linesman says...
11:24pm Sun 4 Jul 10

geoff51 wrote:
Atpost wrote:
samantha pia wrote: they are all in it for their own monitory gains. nothing more.
monitory? Thanks love, now go and make the tea!
If you can only being rude and insulting why dont you post on the Daily Mirror forums with all the other labour party supporters. They will appreciate your insults
"If you can only being rude and insulting...."
Something missing?
Product of a Tory education system?
Perhaps it is you that should be going to make the tea Geoff.

Stephen J says...
5:37pm Mon 5 Jul 10

"...what he describes as "special recognition payments"." He describes them as such because that's what they're called. These payments can be made to any member of staff to recognise outstanding contributions. I know of three junior members of staff who have received such payments in the last year, and well deserved they were too.

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