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Southampton taxi drivers in row over 'English speaking' stickers


A ROW has broken out after several of Southampton’s cabbies starting displaying St George and Union Flag stickers proclaiming they were “English-speaking” drivers.

It follows complaints from passengers about the standard of spoken English of some of the taxi drivers in the city.

There have also been complaints from passengers about the use of satellite navigation devices and over-charging.

There are 267 hail-and-ride hackney carriage taxis in Southampton and a further 550 private hire vehicles.

It is thought that about a dozen cabbies have put the stickers on their taxis.

But trade representatives fear the stickers have racist undertones and have called for them to be removed.

Some of the drivers displaying them have already done so, but none of those approached by the Daily Echo wanted to comment.

Chairman of the Southampton cab section of Unite, Perry McMillan, said his ethnic minority members had been upset by the stickers.

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He said: “Surely all drivers speak English. If they don’t, what’s going on?

We just hope that licensing officers can investigate this and satisfy the trade that this isn’t the case.”

Ian Hall, chairman of the Southampton Hackney Association, half of whose 126 members are from an Asian background, said: “I don’t think drivers should have these stickers in the back of their cars, because I think it’s racist.

“If drivers have got these stickers, they need to take them down.”

Mr Hall said the night trade would “collapse”

without ethnic minority drivers, who were buying the majority of taxi plates as they had money more readily available, often by clubbing together.

The stickers issue was raised at a secret trade consultation meeting with Southampton City Council. The Daily Echo understands that civic chiefs would order stickers to be removed if official complaints were lodged by passengers.

A council spokesman said: “We will of course look into any complaints or concerns from members of public.

“People should contact the council and let us know if they see signs and stickers being used in taxis, particularly if they find them offensive.”

But Clive Johnson, chairman of Radio Taxis and the Southampton Trade Association, said: “These signs are not racial. They are a protest to the council, saying please make sure new drivers actually have command of the English language.

“There are a few guys going out there who cannot speak English and just bluff it. It doesn’t matter if they are Polish, Russian, French, Spanish, if they can’t communicate to passengers we have to take that as problem.”

Anyone who wants to become a taxi driver must hold a British driving licence, pass a medical, undergo a criminal record check and complete a “knowledge” test of Southampton.

Council chiefs last year added a driving assessment and test in basic reading, writing and communication skills. A BTec qualification in Road Transport Passenger Driving must also be gained within six months.

Councillor Brian Parnell, chairman of the council’s licensing committee, said he hadn’t seen the stickers but insisted: “It is certainly not the image we want for Southampton.

“It is offensive to drivers from ethnic minorities who form a large part of the city's drivers and without whom Southampton’s taxi service would suffer.

“We want to promote harmony in the city. However, it is important that taxi drivers meet a certain set of standards and one of those standards is the ability to speak English.

“It is normal good practice for anyone working in another country to be able to speak the language of the country they are in.

“I think the problem is that many taxi drivers do speak English, but with a heavy accent that can be difficult to understand.”

Licensing panel member Councillor Don Thomas added: “Taxis and taxi drivers can be the first impression of Southampton for visitors.

“I personally think this is completely the wrong sort of message that we need for what is proudly a cosmopolitan city.”

Additional reporting by Will Carson


Comments(67)

bigfella says...
12:14pm Tue 2 Feb 10

i've lost my can of worms....can anybody help me....

Denzil says...
12:18pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Ha ha ha I'll recomend these stickers to Essruu.

Carpe Diem says...
12:21pm Tue 2 Feb 10

How about some stickers that say the driver knows how to get where you want to go !

G0Rf says...
12:23pm Tue 2 Feb 10

good idea, keep them!

cowley says...
12:27pm Tue 2 Feb 10

anyone know where i can obtain a couple of these stickers? what is the problem?

Red&White Power says...
12:28pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Oh the irony from Perry Mcmillan ! Here is a taxi driver and union guy who has communist and che guavara terrorist regalia in his cab.

Not that i use taxis as they are a rip off. But i get offended by all the muslim and pakistani flags emblazoned on southampton taxis.


There should be a link on this story to the scumbag who abused those pensioners.

costa gaz says...
12:33pm Tue 2 Feb 10

As a fare paying passengers we have a right to choose which taxi we get into. If you'd like one where the driver spoke the national language and saw a sticker to tell you this, I'd see this as benificial to the customer. This would also help if your destination address was some-what obscure, and you needed to communicate with the driver regarding the route. Good idea in my opinion.
Nothing racist about this what so ever.

issy1234ben says...
12:40pm Tue 2 Feb 10

What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.

Shoong says...
12:43pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Soton Taxis are a rip off but the last two I've used driven by foreign drivers, the first didn't know the way from Central Station to Oxford St & the other couldn't understand me, I couldn't understand him.

I'll use an English speaking taxi in future. They are more likely to understand me & know where they are going. I'm not being racist, I just want a decent service.

Mado says...
12:46pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Good idea. The last time I got a cab in town the driver didnt know where Netley was, could hardly speak English, and I had to show him how to get there. He should have been paying me. The to add insult to injury he tried to charge me double what it normally cost. Soon changed his tune when I took his drivers number.

rednwhite1 says...
12:57pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Why is it racist to say there english drivers working in there country. I have been in a cab when the driver did not speak english and took me the long way home and made out he couldnt understand me or he didnt understand me just to make more money. were english and were in england end of. The amount of other ethnics over here and working and dont speak english and some of them refuse to speak our language and that aint racist , you cant be racist speaking your own language in your own country and if they dont like it well tough go back to your own then. we get this on st. georges day when we fly our flags being proud of being english , yet they can fly there flags and have street parties to celebrate there time and country in our country so live with it. Fair play to the drivers were ENGLISH and proud of it. Stop complaining and remember where you are , what is this country coming to and notice who the ones are that complain , english are they ?? world cup coming up shortly and il have mt shirt and flag out , then what ,sod of im english.

Brock_and_Roll says...
12:57pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Would it not be better if all taxis had a little list of the languages spoken by the driver eg English, French, German, Hindi, Yokel or whatever.

That would be quite useful for tourists and others for whom English is not their first language.........suc
h as Skates!

And just to secure my place in pedants corner, English is NOT an "official language" in the United Kingdom (or for that matter the USA). It is of course the lingua franca, however, it status is the same as older languages still spoken (eg Welsh) and languages spoken by post-saxon immigrants.

English speakers should remember that is is a bit rich for them to accuse immigrants of not speaking the lingo - it was the Anglo-Saxon immigrants that have spent the last 1500 years subverting the celtic languages that were spoken here long before their arrival!

Condor Man says...
12:59pm Tue 2 Feb 10

All taxi drivers should be properly licenced with a valid UK drivers licence. If they don't have this they can't drive a taxi. As for language I would expect someone driving me to be fluent in English and understand directions. It's wrong they are using SatNavs, they should take the Knowledge as they have to in London

Sotonianman says...
1:03pm Tue 2 Feb 10

I am a regular taxi user and quite frankly there are good and bad taxi drivers of all race and creed.

However I do feel that as all taxi drivers are licensed by their respective councils/licensing authorities, they should not be licensed if they do not have an adequate understanding of the English language and their local area. Therefore the failing here is the council itself in the first place.

PDOFF says...
1:04pm Tue 2 Feb 10

As a hackney driver for the past 9 years i can honestly say that its about time that something like this has happened so that the public can take notice. The standard of service is appaulling . You should be able to feel safe in a taxi but this is no longer the case .For this reason i will continue to display my sign as it is not racist just stating that i can speak English and that i know where i`m going unlike a lot of drivers out here

Condor Man says...
1:05pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Sotonianman wrote:
I am a regular taxi user and quite frankly there are good and bad taxi drivers of all race and creed. However I do feel that as all taxi drivers are licensed by their respective councils/licensing authorities, they should not be licensed if they do not have an adequate understanding of the English language and their local area. Therefore the failing here is the council itself in the first place.
the problem is a lot of plate holders sublet their vehicles, especially in the evenings, so the council may know who owns the car but not necessarily who drives it

stmarysmush says...
1:07pm Tue 2 Feb 10

This flag must be a good idea as all the people posted on here have similar stories. Some of these cabbies are just unbelievable more often than not you have to tell them were to going even if they have sat nav. They havnt got a clue yet they can count the money very easily.

freefinker says...
1:08pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Good post Brock_and_Roll.
I've often wondered why the BNP and their ilk are NOT calling for the repatriation of them **** foreign Anglo Saxons. Coming over here and polluting our language. And don't forget the Jutes, er, and Romans. In fact, lets bring the ice-age back and get rid of everyone.

Brock_and_Roll says...
1:08pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Yes I agree with PDOFF - once the licencing authoirty introduces language tests, then there would be no need for stickers - and then there would be "racist overtones" for those who continue to display them.

Liberal and tolerant I may be, but when I get in to a taxi I expect the person to be able to dirve and to be able to speak reasonable English.

barnhardmonkeynut says...
1:09pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Red&White Power wrote:
Oh the irony from Perry Mcmillan ! Here is a taxi driver and union guy who has communist and che guavara terrorist regalia in his cab. Not that i use taxis as they are a rip off. But i get offended by all the muslim and pakistani flags emblazoned on southampton taxis. There should be a link on this story to the scumbag who abused those pensioners.
Fair play to you mate ! I was a Taxi driver in Southampton for 14 years ! As far as I'm concerned the Taxis trade in Southampton is a JOKE ! If you don't Kiss **** to the Hackney Office they're on your back ! Please note the Council control the fares that are set on the meters not the driver ! And I could Pride myself on taking you on the ''Cheapest Route'' because not being rude to any of my customers '' I want you out of my cab asap,so I could get onto my next pick up !'' didn't want to rip anyone off by taking the the longest route '' More Pick UPS More Money'' and most of all I can Speak the Language of the the Country I was working in ! ! In ENGLAND it's ENGLISH ! BUT ALAS MOST OF ALL MONEY TALKS IN THE SOUTHAMPTON HACKNEY OFFICE ! IF YOU PASS THE SO CALLED KNOWLEDGE TEST YOU PAY THEM ! EVEN IF YOU CANT SPECK ENGLISH ! !

mac1989 says...
1:12pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Why this hell is this being classed as racist am sure if it said AFGHAN SPEAKING DRIVER, POLISH SPEAKING DRIVER with there national flag etc... this would never have made the news.... good for these Taxi drivers keep the stickers.

soton1980 says...
1:20pm Tue 2 Feb 10

How is this racist? I bet they wouldn't be saying that if it had a Polish flag and said 'Polish speaking'! Since when has it been deemed racist to display the national flag in your own country? Unbelieveable. Yet another example of 'positive' discrimination where foreign drivers can display their national flags and it's allowed, but English/British drivers displaying our flag are persecuted.

stmarysmush says...
1:22pm Tue 2 Feb 10

I also heard from an English cabbie ,a rare breed these days, that any hackney plates for sale are instantly bought up by these people.How do they afford it ? £30,000 + for a red plate i believe. Well how about a load off the new mosque there arguing about then pay it back every week at £200 per week. No wondering there fighting over the rights to that mosque....quiet an earner that.

susieq750 says...
1:25pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Why shouldnt they display these signs ? Sorry do we not live in England then !!!!!! Im sure if any foreigners wanted to display anything it would be fine .....Goodness we wouldnt want to upset them now would we.... imagine their human rights being effected..........

southampton_till_i_die09 says...
1:29pm Tue 2 Feb 10

if people do not like it, then leave the country. simple as! it is just not on, complaining about our culture. it is clearly stating that they speak english. seeing as we are in england... i think it is pathetic.

PDOFF says...
1:35pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Just one other thought if the British Armed Forces have problems checking certain Nationalities criminal past then we must have one hell of a amazing council if they can obtain details of previous criminal history(NOT)so much for all drivers having a CRB check ?

stickymcglue says...
1:36pm Tue 2 Feb 10

just stupidity. if taxi drivers were serious about this , then all they have to do is have a sticker saying "fluent in the following langauges...." the English flag is irrelevant. dumb all round this is. If I got into a taxi and the guy could not understand me I would get and get in another one... if the guy did not know the destination address and it was an obvious one then I would simply report him for being possibly bogus and want him investigated. Remember taxi drivers have to have a UK driving licence the last I heard so they must have a grasp of english.... unless I am wrong on this in which case if taxi drivers are allowed to work here on non-EU licences then we need to stop that..

zoom-in says...
1:39pm Tue 2 Feb 10

The Council will do its PC gone mad bit and it will be stopped. I have no objection to drivers of other nationalities displaying the language they speak as this will give me , as the customer, a choice whether I want to sit in silence or have a chat with the driver. This is not racist but customer service information. Get over it - this is ENGLAND (I think!).

southy says...
1:47pm Tue 2 Feb 10

issy1234ben wrote:
What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
some thing you need to deal with, is the fact that britian has been a multi speaking, multi cultural, multi creed, multi race, and multi colour country ever since the romans step foot on this country.

and what brock_and_roll, brock said would make more sensable thing to do.

the man in the docks says...
1:54pm Tue 2 Feb 10

you shouldnt be allowed to work with the general public, ANYWHERE, if you dont speak the native tongue

Condor Man says...
1:54pm Tue 2 Feb 10

southy wrote:
issy1234ben wrote: What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
some thing you need to deal with, is the fact that britian has been a multi speaking, multi cultural, multi creed, multi race, and multi colour country ever since the romans step foot on this country. and what brock_and_roll, brock said would make more sensable thing to do.
If you saw Mark Oaten speaking with the BNP supporter last night you'll understand how small things are pushing marginal people to extremists. The council must ensure with taxi firms that drivers are able to speak English as incidents like these play into the hands of Nick Griffin.

stickymcglue says...
1:59pm Tue 2 Feb 10

the man in the docks wrote:
you shouldnt be allowed to work with the general public, ANYWHERE, if you dont speak the native tongue
do you speak pictish anglo then , since in Hampshire thats the closest we have to a "native" tongue...
language is only barrier to the ignorant. current english is a morphed version of german really , so do you consider german our "mother tongue" ,,, any anyway , I can not understand most chavs in tescos so if they are speaking english , its a dialect I am not familiar with , most poles speak better english that them.

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...
2:16pm Tue 2 Feb 10

southy wrote:
issy1234ben wrote:
What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
some thing you need to deal with, is the fact that britian has been a multi speaking, multi cultural, multi creed, multi race, and multi colour country ever since the romans step foot on this country.

and what brock_and_roll, brock said would make more sensable thing to do.
Yet on other posts you moan about people coming in from abroad and working for less than their UK counterparts.

Polygonia says...
2:18pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Condor Man wrote:
Sotonianman wrote: I am a regular taxi user and quite frankly there are good and bad taxi drivers of all race and creed. However I do feel that as all taxi drivers are licensed by their respective councils/licensing authorities, they should not be licensed if they do not have an adequate understanding of the English language and their local area. Therefore the failing here is the council itself in the first place.
the problem is a lot of plate holders sublet their vehicles, especially in the evenings, so the council may know who owns the car but not necessarily who drives it
Is this sub letting legal and do any Councillors or Council staff in the Licensing department for Taxis read these pages ?

mack chinnon says...
2:32pm Tue 2 Feb 10

stickymcglue wrote:
the man in the docks wrote: you shouldnt be allowed to work with the general public, ANYWHERE, if you dont speak the native tongue
do you speak pictish anglo then , since in Hampshire thats the closest we have to a "native" tongue... language is only barrier to the ignorant. current english is a morphed version of german really , so do you consider german our "mother tongue" ,,, any anyway , I can not understand most chavs in tescos so if they are speaking english , its a dialect I am not familiar with , most poles speak better english that them.
Sticky.What.

Harley.79 says...
2:33pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Think its a good idea, there's nothing worse than jumping in a cab a being quiet throughout the whole journey, Its good to have a wee chat and put the world to rights with a taxi driver. Having a chin wag with the customer I feel is all part of the job. Nothing worse than a taxi driver asking for a postcode to put in his sat-nav, Its there job to know where there going isn't it?

southy says...
2:37pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Condor Man wrote:
southy wrote:
issy1234ben wrote: What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
some thing you need to deal with, is the fact that britian has been a multi speaking, multi cultural, multi creed, multi race, and multi colour country ever since the romans step foot on this country. and what brock_and_roll, brock said would make more sensable thing to do.
If you saw Mark Oaten speaking with the BNP supporter last night you'll understand how small things are pushing marginal people to extremists. The council must ensure with taxi firms that drivers are able to speak English as incidents like these play into the hands of Nick Griffin.
yes i am fully aware of that condor, thats why the socialist party is the fastest growing political party at the moment. even lo the socialist are not extremist they are just left of centre.
giffin is using the same tactic has hitler did, to get to power, and we all know where that ended.
it would be a good idea to have an english speaking test for taxi's, but it would be a good idea if taxi drivers if they speak another language would be a good idea to put a sticker up saying that they do.
what is going on here is pointing towards that there are a few EDL and BNP supporters who have convince other drivers to do the same.

rjfmusic says...
3:00pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Well done cabbies - I'd like to see the idea extended to other businesses as well. Perhaps we could have dedicated English-speaking customer telephone helplines!

southy says...
3:24pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
southy wrote:
issy1234ben wrote:
What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
some thing you need to deal with, is the fact that britian has been a multi speaking, multi cultural, multi creed, multi race, and multi colour country ever since the romans step foot on this country.

and what brock_and_roll, brock said would make more sensable thing to do.
Yet on other posts you moan about people coming in from abroad and working for less than their UK counterparts.
derek stop trying to twist things and lieing, i never said that at all, what i have said in the pass, is that it is companys that is bring in workers from aboard for cheap labour and to under cut the uk wage.
perfect example is the linsey oil refinery, those workers that company brought in was told they would be on better wage than there english counter parts whitch was a lie, they was brought in to undermine the national wage agreement and conditions, it was never about british jobs for the english that was lie spread about by your fascist BNP and EDL who got chase off the picket lines, they tired to do the same thing that the NF done back in the late 70's and that was to mix in with the pickets and cause trouble, a high number of NF members joined the tory party in the 80's.
any way back to linsey, the socialist party got in contact with the workers from aboard and let them know what the uk national agreement was about, and they down tools in support and force a quick settlement an favour of all, those workers have now gone back home and are now demanding the same type agreement.

wilson castaway says...
3:30pm Tue 2 Feb 10

I cant see this is racist.I recently got in a taxi with a foreign driver who took me all over the place to get me home.A simple journey turned into a round the world trip.I complained that he was taking me away from my destination instead of to it and actually became quite distressed as he ignored my directions.I finally got out my mobile phone to ring my dad and told him I am refusing to pay and suddenly he could understand me.I just wish I took the relevant info to take this further, in my panic to get out I forgot.Now i feel very nervous about ordering a taxi alone.

S!mon says...
3:31pm Tue 2 Feb 10

rjfmusic wrote:
Well done cabbies - I'd like to see the idea extended to other businesses as well. Perhaps we could have dedicated English-speaking customer telephone helplines!
Perhaps we could trial English/Non-English queues at McDonald's? And hopefully, we can get a much quicker burger at lunch times :)

rcoups says...
3:46pm Tue 2 Feb 10

The only people in the world that are racist are the English? I don't see why we are, its only our beaurocrats that have labled us racist, so why don't they go to other countries to live and see what it's like. All cabs should have national flags donating the languages they can speak in them so people from those nationalities will know that they can comminicate easier with the driver

freefinker says...
3:53pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Firstly, let me say I think all taxi drivers should have a grasp of English that is sufficient to be able to understand the destination of the fare; and a good grasp of the geography of our city so that they can take you straight there. If you haven't got that you shouldn't be driving a taxi.
However, there is much xenophobia in several of the above post.
Our flags (union jack and to a lesser extent St George) have, unfortunately, been the subject of a high-jacking by the extreme neo-nazis. Until such time as we can detach this association I for one, and I am sure many in the ethnic communities, are just a little dubious about "flag-waving" in case we send out the wrong message.
It seems to me, also, that some people need to be reminded that we are an island of immigrants - always have been, always will be.
It always takes a few generations for new arrivals to blend in - but blend in they always do. And each successive wave adds to our culture and, indeed, our language.
So, let's show some toleration towards those who often fill the jobs that the "indigenous" population (whoever they are?) are not too keen to take on.

King Mush says...
4:10pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Just look across the Big Pond to see the most amazing New World built on mass immigration over the last 500 years.

They fly their flags all over the place with pride, despite the downsides of inherently racist attitudes. The Stars and Stripes are paraded by all races, creeds and colours and are flown outside many of their homes.

How come this little island has so many 'problems' when it comes to displaying our own symbol that has been around since 1707. Nothing wrong with others displaying their own flags where relevant and we should be able to share in a multicultural society, despite the problems caused by certain sections of our community

Brock_and_Roll says...
4:14pm Tue 2 Feb 10

quite right Freethinker!

Whilst I agree that all Soton taxi drivers should be able to speak English which is pure common sense, the irony of a lot of the posts on here is that people fail to grasp that English is a complete bast*rd of a language - having stolen a large percentage of its words from many different languages the world over. This is a result of our being a mighty trading nation and as a result of waves and waves off immigration over the last 1500 years. Each successive wave is resented but in due course is absorbed - and ends like The Kumars (Coopers) resenting the next bunch of arrivals!

Those who refer to English as "our native tongue" obviously were not paying much attention at school!

THEKILLER says...
4:15pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Brilliant idea, can we make the flags larger?. I have not used Taxis for over 6 months after being ripped off by non English speaking drivers who could not understand where I wanted to go, then took me all over the place driving twice as far as the direct route then trying to charge a fortune . Are the drivers always the same as the ones with the licenses ? it seems as though once one person has the license any one can drive the cab.

gillyman says...
4:57pm Tue 2 Feb 10

all i want to do is get in a taxi tell the driver where i'm going and get there the last taxi i took the driver needed me to speak slower so he could understand and still needed directions so sadly i now consider myself racist

babegirl says...
5:15pm Tue 2 Feb 10

costa gaz wrote:
As a fare paying passengers we have a right to choose which taxi we get into. If you'd like one where the driver spoke the national language and saw a sticker to tell you this, I'd see this as benificial to the customer. This would also help if your destination address was some-what obscure, and you needed to communicate with the driver regarding the route. Good idea in my opinion. Nothing racist about this what so ever.
I agree, the public do have a right to know, but apparently this is not the case and they have more right to know who John Terry is sleeping with today! We can rule in high court that the public should have access to information on footballers sex lives and yet their comfort, safety, freedom of speach and the right to decide in this case can be taken away. We concentrate so much on racism and discrimation and yet manage to reverse discriminate against those who are not of ethic minority (or are we!). Am I a taxi driver? No! Do I know a taxi driver? Yes! Are they English? Yes! Do I feel they are discriminated against? Very much so! Everyone who regulates the taxi drivers within the Southampton Area are so concerned by not being hailed up in court for discrimination that they infact discrimate against the English driver, its a constant fight to get the same rights. People need to stop being scared of having opinions which may offend! In all other areas we have the right to know all other information before making our decision so why not here!

clausentum says...
5:21pm Tue 2 Feb 10

King Mush wrote:
Just look across the Big Pond to see the most amazing New World built on mass immigration over the last 500 years.

They fly their flags all over the place with pride, despite the downsides of inherently racist attitudes. The Stars and Stripes are paraded by all races, creeds and colours and are flown outside many of their homes.

How come this little island has so many 'problems' when it comes to displaying our own symbol that has been around since 1707. Nothing wrong with others displaying their own flags where relevant and we should be able to share in a multicultural society, despite the problems caused by certain sections of our community
A few months ago I found myself driving on a USA freeway behind a bright red Dodge Ram 3500 pickup truck. The entire back of the pickup truck was covered by a giant Stars & Stripes Flag decal. Below that, on the shiny chrome bumper, was the following bumper sticker in bold black lettering:

Don't like my Country?
Dial 1-800-Go-Home

Hilarious.

The pickup truck driver was expressing his freedom of speech.

freemantlegirl2 says...
6:32pm Tue 2 Feb 10

A storm in a teacup! this isn't about racism, it's about many of us have experienced at some time or another someone who cannot even speak English properly! and as for navigating around the city. I blame the Council, they should have a certain standard for someone to obtain a licence.

As for the Moroccan driver complaining on TV, he could display a I speak good English sticker, his English was very good! :)

freemantlegirl2 says...
6:32pm Tue 2 Feb 10

A storm in a teacup! this isn't about racism, it's about many of us have experienced at some time or another someone who cannot even speak English properly! and as for navigating around the city. I blame the Council, they should have a certain standard for someone to obtain a licence.

As for the Moroccan driver complaining on TV, he could display a I speak good English sticker, his English was very good! :)

soton1980 says...
8:29pm Tue 2 Feb 10

rjfmusic wrote:
Well done cabbies - I'd like to see the idea extended to other businesses as well. Perhaps we could have dedicated English-speaking customer telephone helplines!
Brilliant idea. I'm not racist, but I expect those I have to speak to on the phone to be able to understand and speak proper English. That's one of the reasons I usually tend to go for places which promote UK call centres. I think there is a clear distinction between racism and not being able to understand someone. Sadly, in situations like these people just jump on the racism bandwagon as is the case here. It's a bit sad and pathetic that they cannot display our national flag to be honest.

soton1980 says...
8:30pm Tue 2 Feb 10

I've also noticed that this has been reported on the BBC now and is in the top ten most read! Brings shame to our city if you ask me!!

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/hamps
hire/8494092.stm

St. Curious Chimp says...
8:54pm Tue 2 Feb 10

issy1234ben wrote:
What on earth is wrong with being proud of your country! When are these idiotic lefties going to grow up and come into the real world. THIS IS ENGLAND!! deal with it.
Ian Hall, chairman of the Southampton Hackney Association, half of whose 126 members are from an Asian background, said: “I don’t think drivers should have these stickers in the back of their cars, because I think it’s racist.
“If drivers have got these stickers, they need to take them down.” ....................
.... Ian Hall ...... YOU are the racist in my opinion, absolutely nothing wrong with being proud to be English, you want to stop kissing as$ because i for one am getting fed up with people like you !!!!

melbournepom says...
8:56pm Tue 2 Feb 10

This is why I moved out of the UK, I am now living a city where it is ok to fly the flag of not only Australia but the Cross of St George also. Oh the taxi drivers are even worst than the UK when it comes directions.

southy says...
9:34pm Tue 2 Feb 10

melbournepom wrote:
This is why I moved out of the UK, I am now living a city where it is ok to fly the flag of not only Australia but the Cross of St George also. Oh the taxi drivers are even worst than the UK when it comes directions.
lol just dont stand behind one.

Towag says...
11:15pm Tue 2 Feb 10

There is a similar problem in Winchester.....
Most of the drivers are from Southampton and of Asian extract...
Apparently not able to get a license in Soton so went to Winchester instead.
Have been no end of complaints since.
Seems its all been kept quiet by the council there as they don't want the bad publicity..... too racy risky!!

B. L. says...
12:40am Wed 3 Feb 10

clausentum wrote:
King Mush wrote:
Just look across the Big Pond to see the most amazing New World built on mass immigration over the last 500 years.

They fly their flags all over the place with pride, despite the downsides of inherently racist attitudes. The Stars and Stripes are paraded by all races, creeds and colours and are flown outside many of their homes.

How come this little island has so many 'problems' when it comes to displaying our own symbol that has been around since 1707. Nothing wrong with others displaying their own flags where relevant and we should be able to share in a multicultural society, despite the problems caused by certain sections of our community
A few months ago I found myself driving on a USA freeway behind a bright red Dodge Ram 3500 pickup truck. The entire back of the pickup truck was covered by a giant Stars & Stripes Flag decal. Below that, on the shiny chrome bumper, was the following bumper sticker in bold black lettering:

Don't like my Country?
Dial 1-800-Go-Home

Hilarious.

The pickup truck driver was expressing his freedom of speech.
Clausentum, I see yours and my previous posts have been removed by the "unbiased" echo "mediator" for reasons unknown. They were not racist but clearly the echo is not an unbiased paper. Freedom of speech is not an echo trait. Pathetic, countdown to removal.

B. L. says...
12:51am Wed 3 Feb 10

Apologies. I withdraw my post above.

taximan05 says...
1:49am Wed 3 Feb 10

i would like to thank the public for all the comments on this page "well done " i just hope the council read all the above and do something posative and not just persue the 12 drivers. i still maintain the signs are for infomation only . clearly there is a deeper problem here that the southampton council need to adress.as a night hackney driver i see and hear things every night things i find hard to believe. tks again keep it up ... my sign stays too

saintpeter48 says...
9:01am Wed 3 Feb 10

from personal experience i fully support the drivers who display these stickers. these asian drivers swap id with each other, one gets the licence and a few friends, relatives share the taxi duties. there should be spot checks on these drivers. the people who sit on their ars*s in offices in the council should get out and about checking ALL drivers to make sure they are legal AND speak and understand the queens english.

shilo says...
10:12am Wed 3 Feb 10

Ordered a cappuccino in a coffee shop in the Marlands and got a cupatea from the eastern european waitress. Tried to book a room at a well known hotel in Southampton and the eastern european receptionist didn't understand my requirements - I give up.

Carpe Diem says...
10:31am Wed 3 Feb 10

Councillor Parnell and Councillor Thomas should really take a look at the overwhelming support that the cabbies are getting and try to understand why the majority of people feel this way.

Too many times I have gotten in a cab to find a driver who does not speak good English, does not know how to get to my destination and has used sat nav for the simplest of journeys. In addition to this on a number of occasions I have been asked to pay my fare up front - on each of these occasions I have immediately gotten out of the cab and told the driver where to go.
If the licencing authority was doing it's job properly this would not even be an issue.

fossymike123 says...
12:18pm Wed 3 Feb 10

Taken from a well know web site
However, the Tory councillor Mr Parnell said the stickers were “offensive” because he wants to “promote harmony in the city.”

Mr Parnell was backed by Perry McMillan, chairman of the Southampton cab section of trade union Unite, far leftist crank Ged Grebby, chairman of the bizarrely named “Show Racism the Red Card” group and Labour Southampton councillor Don Thomas in condemning the stickers.

At least we should be thankful to Cllr Parnell for being honest about his anti-English sentiments, which is more than can be said for his party’s leadership.

Now at least the people of s/hampton know who your up against remember them on election day

Invisible says...
1:58pm Wed 3 Feb 10

It is you who is the racist here Mr Ian Hall, chairman of Southampton Hackney Association!

Dianderson says...
7:08pm Wed 3 Feb 10

I support the cab drivers in their fight to keep the stickers, when do we have freedom of choice, we no longer have freedom of voice thanks to the politically correct brigade. It's about time we stood up for both our language and heritage. We have something to be proud of too.

issy1234ben says...
1:24pm Fri 5 Feb 10

Reading these comments it occurs to me that some of our English speakers could benefit from a refresher course in the language(especially Southy).


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