Local Election result - Southampton

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THE Conservatives strengthened their overall majority on Southampton City Council while Labour enjoyed a slight resurgence at the expense of the Liberal Democrats.

Of the 16 seats up for grabs – one in each of the city’s wards – the Tories gained two, Labour gained one and the Lib Dems lost three. There were no wins by any Independents or Greens.

This means the Tories now have 28, Labour 15 and the Lib Dems five seats on the 48- member city council.

After suffering defeat in the General Election the Conservatives’ two wannabe MPs, Councillors Royston Smith and Jeremy Moulton, held onto their local seats.

After losing out to John Denham by just 192 votes in Southampton Itchen, and achieving a 10.3 per cent swing, Cllr Smith insisted it was not a consolation prize and he would now focus on his council job.

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He said: “I’m proud to represent the people of Harefield which I have done for the last ten years. I’m a local chap.”

Councillor Moulton, who unsuccessfully fought the Southampton Test constituency, said he was “thrilled” to have the chance to continue representing Freemantle.

Meanwhile Lib Dem veteran and former council leader Adrian Vinson won the seat vacated by party group leader Jill Baston who decided to call it a day after 17 years as a councillor. Cllr Vinson said he was “very pleased” to be back representing Portswood after a two yearabsence when he was voted out of office.

“I have missed being on the council but on the other hand my garden has benefited,” he said.

He refused to be drawn on whether he would become the group’s party leader saying it was up to the Lib Dem group to decide. Fellow Lib Dem Councillor Gerry Drake was narrowly re-elected to his Peartree seat by just 30 votes after his Tory rival Casey Baldwin requested three recounts. Cllr Drake who has served the Peartree ward for 17 years vowed to continue to be a “community politician”.

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Labour’s Keith Morrell, a former county councillor in the early 1990s ousted Lib Dem Peter Galton from the Coxford ward. He said: “I will do my best to serve Coxford people.”

At the fourth time of trying Labour’s David Furnell won the previously Lib Dem held Millbrook ward seat.

Southampton’s overall turnout was 59 per cent – higher than the usual 30 per cent recorded in local elections.

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10:50am Sat 8 May 10

southy says...

thats not good to see only 59% turn out, the same figure for the national election, (that is 59% of the registered voters).

smith said
quote "it was not a consolation prize and he would now focus on his council job.
He said: “I’m proud to represent the people of Harefield which I have done for the last ten years. I’m a local chap.”
ah i see so he did tend to take and try to do both jobs, what a greedy person he is. the wrong sort of person to be in politics.
i thought smith lived in harefield, but i been told on on here that he lives in bittern park, so he not local to the harefield but local to bittern park.
one rule in politics i would like to see is counciler's and mp's should live in the area that they are going to represent for at lest 5 years. it would stop this party lynch mob removing a mp or councilor just because they dont like him or her or disapprove them.
thats not good to see only 59% turn out, the same figure for the national election, (that is 59% of the registered voters). smith said quote "it was not a consolation prize and he would now focus on his council job. He said: “I’m proud to represent the people of Harefield which I have done for the last ten years. I’m a local chap.” ah i see so he did tend to take and try to do both jobs, what a greedy person he is. the wrong sort of person to be in politics. i thought smith lived in harefield, but i been told on on here that he lives in bittern park, so he not local to the harefield but local to bittern park. one rule in politics i would like to see is counciler's and mp's should live in the area that they are going to represent for at lest 5 years. it would stop this party lynch mob removing a mp or councilor just because they dont like him or her or disapprove them. southy
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11:12am Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago.

Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.
Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago. Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw. Condor Man
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11:19am Sat 8 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago.

Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.
ah thank you condor.
he did behave badly, but dont forget how the torys behave before also. but still its not an excuse for any one to act badly, just like smith did, improper conduct i call it.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago. Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.[/p][/quote]ah thank you condor. he did behave badly, but dont forget how the torys behave before also. but still its not an excuse for any one to act badly, just like smith did, improper conduct i call it. southy
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11:22am Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago.

Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.
ah thank you condor.
he did behave badly, but dont forget how the torys behave before also. but still its not an excuse for any one to act badly, just like smith did, improper conduct i call it.
how so? what has Smith done? For me he's been an excellent councillor and the reason why the Tories are cementing their control of the council is that unlike their Labour and Lib Dem counterparts they actually do stuff for their voters.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago. Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.[/p][/quote]ah thank you condor. he did behave badly, but dont forget how the torys behave before also. but still its not an excuse for any one to act badly, just like smith did, improper conduct i call it.[/p][/quote]how so? what has Smith done? For me he's been an excellent councillor and the reason why the Tories are cementing their control of the council is that unlike their Labour and Lib Dem counterparts they actually do stuff for their voters. Condor Man
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12:19pm Sat 8 May 10

southy says...

the torys are cementing control that for sure, but then when you look at the figures in the right way, you can see why that is, its because majority of the left are not voting no one to vote for.
smith not a lot really but for him ranting on about denhams scaremongering, he moan about it about it a week and half before hand in the echo your say letter page, and at meeting's of the few he did attend to, then went on about it in his losing speech. i even over heard southampton tory party member say there he go's again, and another one reply saying yes i know it probley lost the seat.
the main problem is that denham was only telling the truth, because all he done was take a tiny bit from the tory manifest and let every one know. about it, that is not scaremongering, because to be honest who reads any party manifest all the way though. they are to long winded just about one item let alone all off them. all people wants is a summary of the manifest and thats all they get and it misses out a lot of details on how they would go about it. lets face it manifest are to long to read they are tomes of books. makes you wonder who the hell has time to write up such jargon every 5 years or less. much easier to the eyes just reading the summary and easier to get hold off.
the torys are cementing control that for sure, but then when you look at the figures in the right way, you can see why that is, its because majority of the left are not voting no one to vote for. smith not a lot really but for him ranting on about denhams scaremongering, he moan about it about it a week and half before hand in the echo your say letter page, and at meeting's of the few he did attend to, then went on about it in his losing speech. i even over heard southampton tory party member say there he go's again, and another one reply saying yes i know it probley lost the seat. the main problem is that denham was only telling the truth, because all he done was take a tiny bit from the tory manifest and let every one know. about it, that is not scaremongering, because to be honest who reads any party manifest all the way though. they are to long winded just about one item let alone all off them. all people wants is a summary of the manifest and thats all they get and it misses out a lot of details on how they would go about it. lets face it manifest are to long to read they are tomes of books. makes you wonder who the hell has time to write up such jargon every 5 years or less. much easier to the eyes just reading the summary and easier to get hold off. southy
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12:23pm Sat 8 May 10

262red@blue says...

the only important person to Mr Smith is Mr Smith end of.............
the only important person to Mr Smith is Mr Smith end of............. 262red@blue
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12:45pm Sat 8 May 10

Redback says...

The council's performed brilliantly, so it's only just that the same people should continue.

Oh, wait...

This result only goes to prove that voters are idiots.
The council's performed brilliantly, so it's only just that the same people should continue. Oh, wait... This result only goes to prove that voters are idiots. Redback
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12:52pm Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

If Jill Baston has retired and Vinson has replaced her what's going to happen to Steve Sollitt as someone with exactly the same name as just been elected to Eastleigh Borough Council?
If Jill Baston has retired and Vinson has replaced her what's going to happen to Steve Sollitt as someone with exactly the same name as just been elected to Eastleigh Borough Council? Condor Man
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1:25pm Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

Redback wrote:
The council's performed brilliantly, so it's only just that the same people should continue. Oh, wait... This result only goes to prove that voters are idiots.
I really find it sad how lefties are such bad losers. As a graduate from a good university what makes me an idiot for voting Conservative? Could it be because I don't share your views? I'm glad we live in a country where people can hold and express different views, how sad that some find it necessary to knock others for thinking differently.
[quote][p][bold]Redback[/bold] wrote: The council's performed brilliantly, so it's only just that the same people should continue. Oh, wait... This result only goes to prove that voters are idiots.[/p][/quote]I really find it sad how lefties are such bad losers. As a graduate from a good university what makes me an idiot for voting Conservative? Could it be because I don't share your views? I'm glad we live in a country where people can hold and express different views, how sad that some find it necessary to knock others for thinking differently. Condor Man
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3:58pm Sat 8 May 10

mr.southampton says...

262red@blue wrote:
the only important person to Mr Smith is Mr Smith end of.............
I defy anyone who has had dealings with Royston to then go out and vote for him.

Sneering and cynical are just two words that come to mind.
[quote][p][bold]262red@blue[/bold] wrote: the only important person to Mr Smith is Mr Smith end of.............[/p][/quote]I defy anyone who has had dealings with Royston to then go out and vote for him. Sneering and cynical are just two words that come to mind. mr.southampton
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4:51pm Sat 8 May 10

Vicky Fuller says...

Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition!
Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition! Vicky Fuller
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7:22pm Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

the reason why his opponants hate Royston so much is that they know he's an extremely effective councillor. He broke the stranglehold of washed up union bullies that controlled Southampton and they've spend the last 2 years throwing mud at him.
the reason why his opponants hate Royston so much is that they know he's an extremely effective councillor. He broke the stranglehold of washed up union bullies that controlled Southampton and they've spend the last 2 years throwing mud at him. Condor Man
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7:22pm Sat 8 May 10

Lone Ranger says...

Vicky Fuller wrote:
Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition!
I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of
[quote][p][bold]Vicky Fuller[/bold] wrote: Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition![/p][/quote]I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of Lone Ranger
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8:02pm Sat 8 May 10

southy says...

Lone Ranger wrote:
Vicky Fuller wrote:
Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition!
I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of
ummm vicky let me see good work and royston smith, let me see hum nope cant think of any. only things i can think off are selling of leisure, librarys, selling of perfect shop units, but left the dodgy one standing where the walk way collapse. and what about his expensives and that was being a councilor, god forbit what it would off been if he was are mp in the last 10 years.
has for john denham lying about the tory manifest its all true, that is what they intend to do what denham forgot to add in is the selling off royal mail, torys tend to sell off every thing that is left in state hands. its in there manifest. on how to raise funds to get the job done in the next 5 years if they last that long, more cuts slash and selling off. and what they dont sell they will close it down and sell the land to private buyer, where ever they own the land.
another point for you notice, here is another reason to prove denham was not lying, because if he was lying he would of got pull up by the election fair play commission and be force to make an public apology, and has that did not happen so he must of been telling the truth
try reading the full manifest and not the summary manifest.
did he reduce the gap between the two or was it more of a case people did not vote and/or vote liberals or one of the other partys
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vicky Fuller[/bold] wrote: Clearly all those of you above who are critising 'Mr Smith' and his conduct have not seen the truth about the Labour candidate and now MP, John Denham. Lying to the face of voters about policies the conservatives were supposed to be inforcing that plainly werent true is what you call dirty, unfair play! Also, voters obviously didnt mind the fact that despite his £140,000 wage- he still claimed £1500 for armchairs and used taxpayers money to buy a Band F mansion in Islington. Royston Smith, has done nothing but fight a clean and honest campaign for Southampton Itchen. He should be extremely proud of himself for reducing labours majority from 9000 to just 192. Well done to Royston and all of the local Southampton Itchen Conservatives. You can hold your heads high- atleast your campaign was clean unlike the opposition![/p][/quote]I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of[/p][/quote]ummm vicky let me see good work and royston smith, let me see hum nope cant think of any. only things i can think off are selling of leisure, librarys, selling of perfect shop units, but left the dodgy one standing where the walk way collapse. and what about his expensives and that was being a councilor, god forbit what it would off been if he was are mp in the last 10 years. has for john denham lying about the tory manifest its all true, that is what they intend to do what denham forgot to add in is the selling off royal mail, torys tend to sell off every thing that is left in state hands. its in there manifest. on how to raise funds to get the job done in the next 5 years if they last that long, more cuts slash and selling off. and what they dont sell they will close it down and sell the land to private buyer, where ever they own the land. another point for you notice, here is another reason to prove denham was not lying, because if he was lying he would of got pull up by the election fair play commission and be force to make an public apology, and has that did not happen so he must of been telling the truth try reading the full manifest and not the summary manifest. did he reduce the gap between the two or was it more of a case people did not vote and/or vote liberals or one of the other partys southy
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8:58pm Sat 8 May 10

geoff51 says...

Although I do not live in Southampton now I still work there, I see the usual socialist sour grapes over their inability to get any decent result in the Local election as in the General election.
Face it you are a spent force that has been rejected by all sane thinking people, both locally and nationally, so quit while you are losing regroup and try and persuade people that one day in the distant future that you may be reelectable.
While we are at it Gordon Brown you are sqatting in no 10 get out it isnt yours anymore, the people have spoken
Although I do not live in Southampton now I still work there, I see the usual socialist sour grapes over their inability to get any decent result in the Local election as in the General election. Face it you are a spent force that has been rejected by all sane thinking people, both locally and nationally, so quit while you are losing regroup and try and persuade people that one day in the distant future that you may be reelectable. While we are at it Gordon Brown you are sqatting in no 10 get out it isnt yours anymore, the people have spoken geoff51
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11:15pm Sat 8 May 10

southy says...

geoff51 wrote:
Although I do not live in Southampton now I still work there, I see the usual socialist sour grapes over their inability to get any decent result in the Local election as in the General election.
Face it you are a spent force that has been rejected by all sane thinking people, both locally and nationally, so quit while you are losing regroup and try and persuade people that one day in the distant future that you may be reelectable.
While we are at it Gordon Brown you are sqatting in no 10 get out it isnt yours anymore, the people have spoken
seems you know very little what is going.
brown is not sqatting at the moment he is required to stay there by governmental law, till the new government is formed. so that means he has to stay there till the tory-con party can make an agreement so that he can have at lest 1 seat in the majority, a deal between tory-con and the liberals has not been made yet, or tory-con with any other party that might give him the majorty, he has till to the 20th this mth to make such agreement, on this day the 20th may, government must return to parliament and govern, if they fail to make an agreement they have 2 choices call for a new election or try and run the country with a minority, whitch would only last one day, and there will be a vote of no confidence and you end up with a election any way, and he will go down in history has the fail government also setting a new record of the shortest term government, the record all ready held by the tory-con party 1974 ted heath tory government.
has for the top part we (the socialist) are not worried about not getting one seat in government, this time round our day is coming, and we are still reforming hence the TUSC ( Trade Unions & Socialist Coalition ) and we just need more time, if you had notice where all the 84 candidates for main government and what council seat they aimed at, Socialist was standing, you would off seen what we was up to, the Socialist and TUSC was standing where ever there was a cabinet minister and where the bnp was standing, the credit go's to the TUSC for taken 1 cabinet minister losing his job, and stopping a number of bnp getting seats, and the removal of most bnp that sat in councils, only problem was where we was going for the bnp we also cost a number of labour mp's and councilor's from getting seats, but we not going to worry over that the labour party just another tory party any way.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Although I do not live in Southampton now I still work there, I see the usual socialist sour grapes over their inability to get any decent result in the Local election as in the General election. Face it you are a spent force that has been rejected by all sane thinking people, both locally and nationally, so quit while you are losing regroup and try and persuade people that one day in the distant future that you may be reelectable. While we are at it Gordon Brown you are sqatting in no 10 get out it isnt yours anymore, the people have spoken[/p][/quote]seems you know very little what is going. brown is not sqatting at the moment he is required to stay there by governmental law, till the new government is formed. so that means he has to stay there till the tory-con party can make an agreement so that he can have at lest 1 seat in the majority, a deal between tory-con and the liberals has not been made yet, or tory-con with any other party that might give him the majorty, he has till to the 20th this mth to make such agreement, on this day the 20th may, government must return to parliament and govern, if they fail to make an agreement they have 2 choices call for a new election or try and run the country with a minority, whitch would only last one day, and there will be a vote of no confidence and you end up with a election any way, and he will go down in history has the fail government also setting a new record of the shortest term government, the record all ready held by the tory-con party 1974 ted heath tory government. has for the top part we (the socialist) are not worried about not getting one seat in government, this time round our day is coming, and we are still reforming hence the TUSC ( Trade Unions & Socialist Coalition ) and we just need more time, if you had notice where all the 84 candidates for main government and what council seat they aimed at, Socialist was standing, you would off seen what we was up to, the Socialist and TUSC was standing where ever there was a cabinet minister and where the bnp was standing, the credit go's to the TUSC for taken 1 cabinet minister losing his job, and stopping a number of bnp getting seats, and the removal of most bnp that sat in councils, only problem was where we was going for the bnp we also cost a number of labour mp's and councilor's from getting seats, but we not going to worry over that the labour party just another tory party any way. southy
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11:52pm Sat 8 May 10

Condor Man says...

TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group. Condor Man
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1:04am Sun 9 May 10

Vicky Fuller says...

To the comment, 'I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of'. You're right. There are 'sour grapes' as you put it. Im going to assume that alot of you critising Royston Smith are actually Labour supporters. Well how do you feel about the fact that your candidate lied to your faces? I think the local Conservatives have a right to be sour after losing simply due to lies told by the opposition. And clearly you dont know anything abuot Royston Smith if you're saying good work doesnt sound like him. Royston worked his backside off for this election! More than can be said for the opposition! If it weren't for the lies and deceit I think we all know that the position of MP would have been given to the hardest working, most local, honest, decent candidate Royston Smith!! Despite the Labour victory, as I said above atleast the Conservatives can hold their heads high!
To the comment, 'I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of'. You're right. There are 'sour grapes' as you put it. Im going to assume that alot of you critising Royston Smith are actually Labour supporters. Well how do you feel about the fact that your candidate lied to your faces? I think the local Conservatives have a right to be sour after losing simply due to lies told by the opposition. And clearly you dont know anything abuot Royston Smith if you're saying good work doesnt sound like him. Royston worked his backside off for this election! More than can be said for the opposition! If it weren't for the lies and deceit I think we all know that the position of MP would have been given to the hardest working, most local, honest, decent candidate Royston Smith!! Despite the Labour victory, as I said above atleast the Conservatives can hold their heads high! Vicky Fuller
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3:53am Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters. southy
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4:13am Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

Vicky Fuller wrote:
To the comment, 'I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of'. You're right. There are 'sour grapes' as you put it. Im going to assume that alot of you critising Royston Smith are actually Labour supporters. Well how do you feel about the fact that your candidate lied to your faces? I think the local Conservatives have a right to be sour after losing simply due to lies told by the opposition. And clearly you dont know anything abuot Royston Smith if you're saying good work doesnt sound like him. Royston worked his backside off for this election! More than can be said for the opposition! If it weren't for the lies and deceit I think we all know that the position of MP would have been given to the hardest working, most local, honest, decent candidate Royston Smith!! Despite the Labour victory, as I said above atleast the Conservatives can hold their heads high!
you are joking i hope, i am not a supporter of john denham i will not even support or nor vote for any right wing labour party.
1/ john denham did not lie. the biggest prof of that is if he did lie the election fair play commission would of pulled him up and force denham to make an open public and private apology to smith. this did not happen so denham was telling the truth.
2/ stop reading the summary manifest and spend a week or two reading the full manifest it do say what denham said and its all true, just he miss out the rest of what the tory-con tend to close down or sell off.
and thats coming from me who dont care what happens to denham.
[quote][p][bold]Vicky Fuller[/bold] wrote: To the comment, 'I can still taste those Sour Grapes....admit it SMITH LOST..end of'. You're right. There are 'sour grapes' as you put it. Im going to assume that alot of you critising Royston Smith are actually Labour supporters. Well how do you feel about the fact that your candidate lied to your faces? I think the local Conservatives have a right to be sour after losing simply due to lies told by the opposition. And clearly you dont know anything abuot Royston Smith if you're saying good work doesnt sound like him. Royston worked his backside off for this election! More than can be said for the opposition! If it weren't for the lies and deceit I think we all know that the position of MP would have been given to the hardest working, most local, honest, decent candidate Royston Smith!! Despite the Labour victory, as I said above atleast the Conservatives can hold their heads high![/p][/quote]you are joking i hope, i am not a supporter of john denham i will not even support or nor vote for any right wing labour party. 1/ john denham did not lie. the biggest prof of that is if he did lie the election fair play commission would of pulled him up and force denham to make an open public and private apology to smith. this did not happen so denham was telling the truth. 2/ stop reading the summary manifest and spend a week or two reading the full manifest it do say what denham said and its all true, just he miss out the rest of what the tory-con tend to close down or sell off. and thats coming from me who dont care what happens to denham. southy
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5:49am Sun 9 May 10

clausentum says...

southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair. clausentum
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10:13am Sun 9 May 10

Ancient David says...

Condor Man wrote:
Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago. Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.
As the Lib-Dems have lost three more seats and now hold only five on the Council, Vinson is,consequently, a political irrelevance.
The other good news is that we got rid of Gidley in Romsey
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Shame to see Vinson back, he behaved quite badly to get rid of the Tories a few years ago. Smith lives in Peartree Ward btw.[/p][/quote]As the Lib-Dems have lost three more seats and now hold only five on the Council, Vinson is,consequently, a political irrelevance. The other good news is that we got rid of Gidley in Romsey Ancient David
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1:38pm Sun 9 May 10

mr nobody says...

What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again .
What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again . mr nobody
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2:44pm Sun 9 May 10

Condor Man says...

mr nobody wrote:
What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again .
are you for real? Millbrook gets more per percent of council tax paid than most other parts of the city. A brand new school at Redbridge, new developments at Cumbrian Way and rebuild at Newlands School. I rescent people on estates moaning about the lack of provision when they have the most spent on them. If people in Millbrook actually engaged with their communities rather than expecting the council to wipe their bums then perhaps you'd have less need for council services.
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again .[/p][/quote]are you for real? Millbrook gets more per percent of council tax paid than most other parts of the city. A brand new school at Redbridge, new developments at Cumbrian Way and rebuild at Newlands School. I rescent people on estates moaning about the lack of provision when they have the most spent on them. If people in Millbrook actually engaged with their communities rather than expecting the council to wipe their bums then perhaps you'd have less need for council services. Condor Man
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2:55pm Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.
then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done southy
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3:25pm Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again .
are you for real? Millbrook gets more per percent of council tax paid than most other parts of the city. A brand new school at Redbridge, new developments at Cumbrian Way and rebuild at Newlands School. I rescent people on estates moaning about the lack of provision when they have the most spent on them. If people in Millbrook actually engaged with their communities rather than expecting the council to wipe their bums then perhaps you'd have less need for council services.
are you for real condor, the tory council wasted money hands over fists, they had to buy the land for a new school, when all they needed to do was build near the old school on school grounds, they are closing down mansel school so they can sell the land to private developers, newlands school they close down part of the school so they could put a sure start there, and at cumbrian way there is no need to pull down those shops and flats, and the old NHS school dentist all those building are in perfect condition, and yet they leave a shopping centre that its walk way collapse, and where there been a number of complaint about the building having big problems.
they could off save a lot of tax payers money just by doing the simplest of things, like the old NHS could of been the sure start. forget the shops in cumbrian way, and deal the shops and flats that did have a real problem ie the ones over the other side of the itchen.
that white elephant idea to deal with the titanic, its cost them millions all ready and they not even got to planning stage, the list is endless
the people of millbrook and redbridge do engage in the communities, but the tory council dont listen to what they are saying or its a case you will have done what we want done and not what we think needs to be done, like the roads, its going to cost a future council million pounds now to be put right, because the road foundation are breaking away.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: What a shame that millbrook didnt get the right person for councillor someone who showed that they were willing to work and improve our community someone who lives in millbrook and suffers the the neglect that we the people of millbrook injure from the tory council day in day out. I just hope that the new labour councillor for millbrook will go and talk to Mr Plumridge who i feel was the best person to stand for us he actually lives in millbrook and when you spoke to him he talked about the every day problems we have here and didnt just hold hands with Mr whitehead and would give you more then two mins of his time so lets hope that Mr plumridge stays fighting for us as i feel that we wont see much of our labour councillor and that the people who didnt vote for him sees the hard work he puts in for the people of millbrook. Carry on the good work steve and lets hope were see you again next year and we get the right person for the job plus there wont be a general election to help the other main parties again .[/p][/quote]are you for real? Millbrook gets more per percent of council tax paid than most other parts of the city. A brand new school at Redbridge, new developments at Cumbrian Way and rebuild at Newlands School. I rescent people on estates moaning about the lack of provision when they have the most spent on them. If people in Millbrook actually engaged with their communities rather than expecting the council to wipe their bums then perhaps you'd have less need for council services.[/p][/quote]are you for real condor, the tory council wasted money hands over fists, they had to buy the land for a new school, when all they needed to do was build near the old school on school grounds, they are closing down mansel school so they can sell the land to private developers, newlands school they close down part of the school so they could put a sure start there, and at cumbrian way there is no need to pull down those shops and flats, and the old NHS school dentist all those building are in perfect condition, and yet they leave a shopping centre that its walk way collapse, and where there been a number of complaint about the building having big problems. they could off save a lot of tax payers money just by doing the simplest of things, like the old NHS could of been the sure start. forget the shops in cumbrian way, and deal the shops and flats that did have a real problem ie the ones over the other side of the itchen. that white elephant idea to deal with the titanic, its cost them millions all ready and they not even got to planning stage, the list is endless the people of millbrook and redbridge do engage in the communities, but the tory council dont listen to what they are saying or its a case you will have done what we want done and not what we think needs to be done, like the roads, its going to cost a future council million pounds now to be put right, because the road foundation are breaking away. southy
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3:56pm Sun 9 May 10

mr nobody says...

Tell me do you think that the new labour councillor will do any good in millbrook or will he be just like the con councillor who also lives outside the community who i might say nobody knows the name of and just be a puppet on strings for votes in chambers. lets see who works harder shall we Mr plumridge or who your bump into nearly every day of the week or somebody your have to book up two monthes in advance to speack to .
Tell me do you think that the new labour councillor will do any good in millbrook or will he be just like the con councillor who also lives outside the community who i might say nobody knows the name of and just be a puppet on strings for votes in chambers. lets see who works harder shall we Mr plumridge or who your bump into nearly every day of the week or somebody your have to book up two monthes in advance to speack to . mr nobody
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4:10pm Sun 9 May 10

Vicky Fuller says...

John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!!
John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!! Vicky Fuller
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5:13pm Sun 9 May 10

Condor Man says...

Vicky Fuller wrote:
John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!!
at least people saw sense and have kept the council Conservative. I've seen a marked improvement in the way the city is being run. The reason why the likes of Mr Nobody and Southy are aggrieved is because now we have a council that is aiming at all council tax payers, not just those on the estates. Places like Millbrook and Thornhill have squandered Millions under the Labour New Deals. The schools are still not educating children properly and people are still on benefits (whilst they complain about Poles doing the jobs they weren't prepared to do in the first place).
[quote][p][bold]Vicky Fuller[/bold] wrote: John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!![/p][/quote]at least people saw sense and have kept the council Conservative. I've seen a marked improvement in the way the city is being run. The reason why the likes of Mr Nobody and Southy are aggrieved is because now we have a council that is aiming at all council tax payers, not just those on the estates. Places like Millbrook and Thornhill have squandered Millions under the Labour New Deals. The schools are still not educating children properly and people are still on benefits (whilst they complain about Poles doing the jobs they weren't prepared to do in the first place). Condor Man
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6:20pm Sun 9 May 10

clausentum says...

southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.
then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five.

He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied.

You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised.

Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla
t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done[/p][/quote]I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five. He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied. You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised. Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle. clausentum
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7:26pm Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

Vicky Fuller wrote:
John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!!
no he did not lie at all he told the truth thats all, if your so **** sure of your self he lied then put in a complaint, but i tell you now you will get told the same thing, john denham just repeated what is in the tory-con manifest.
smithy had no answers to what denham said because he knows its the truth, thats why he used the words scaremongering, and not use the words miss leading the public. ie scaremongering telling people what is there but hiden, not that it matters any way, we be at the polls again before the end of 2012, and that will be the end of the tory party for good. never to been seen in power again.
[quote][p][bold]Vicky Fuller[/bold] wrote: John Denham lied through his teeth! Its a fact! He said in all his literature that the Conservatives would cut tax credits and Surestart.. which are lies. The man was so desperate to keep his position as MP, that he was willing to lie to the face of the electorate. Say what you will- but I actually know for a fact Royston was, is and always will be the better candidate. Someone who actually cares for the city, actually lives in the constituency and fought a clean campaign!![/p][/quote]no he did not lie at all he told the truth thats all, if your so **** sure of your self he lied then put in a complaint, but i tell you now you will get told the same thing, john denham just repeated what is in the tory-con manifest. smithy had no answers to what denham said because he knows its the truth, thats why he used the words scaremongering, and not use the words miss leading the public. ie scaremongering telling people what is there but hiden, not that it matters any way, we be at the polls again before the end of 2012, and that will be the end of the tory party for good. never to been seen in power again. southy
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7:36pm Sun 9 May 10

southy says...

clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.
then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five.

He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied.

You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised.

Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla

t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.
why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are.
theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on.
dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done[/p][/quote]I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five. He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied. You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised. Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.[/p][/quote]why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are. theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on. dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb. southy
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8:35pm Sun 9 May 10

Condor Man says...

SOuthy, one reason why people have rejected Liebore in Southampton is due to the fact that Bridle decided that the 'cabinet' should be paid all that money- money that's gradually being reduced by Smith and Moulton. Council Tax payers are not a cash cow to be milked by Labour councillors- most of whom underperformed in the workplace and if needed extra money should have worked harder.
SOuthy, one reason why people have rejected Liebore in Southampton is due to the fact that Bridle decided that the 'cabinet' should be paid all that money- money that's gradually being reduced by Smith and Moulton. Council Tax payers are not a cash cow to be milked by Labour councillors- most of whom underperformed in the workplace and if needed extra money should have worked harder. Condor Man
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11:19pm Sun 9 May 10

clausentum says...

southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.
then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five.

He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied.

You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised.

Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla


t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.
why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are.
theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on.
dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.
0.38%
gave your man the thumbs up.

99.62%
gave him two fingers.

Why?

Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country.

Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done[/p][/quote]I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five. He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied. You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised. Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.[/p][/quote]why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are. theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on. dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.[/p][/quote]0.38% gave your man the thumbs up. 99.62% gave him two fingers. Why? Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country. Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters. clausentum
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1:03am Mon 10 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
SOuthy, one reason why people have rejected Liebore in Southampton is due to the fact that Bridle decided that the 'cabinet' should be paid all that money- money that's gradually being reduced by Smith and Moulton. Council Tax payers are not a cash cow to be milked by Labour councillors- most of whom underperformed in the workplace and if needed extra money should have worked harder.
but there policy have made it 3 times worse. its not being reduce at all, what your missing out on too is that the people did not vote for the torys, the liberals took enough votes of the labour to let a tory in, its only a few cases where liberal lost there voter to the torys, have a real hard look at freemantle and harefield they lost votes to the liberals, even lo they won there ward there vote count was down when you take into account that the voting population has gone up in there areas, you watch what happens in the next 3 local election, the torys will be losing seats in the council, its there turn to have there seats up for gabs.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: SOuthy, one reason why people have rejected Liebore in Southampton is due to the fact that Bridle decided that the 'cabinet' should be paid all that money- money that's gradually being reduced by Smith and Moulton. Council Tax payers are not a cash cow to be milked by Labour councillors- most of whom underperformed in the workplace and if needed extra money should have worked harder.[/p][/quote]but there policy have made it 3 times worse. its not being reduce at all, what your missing out on too is that the people did not vote for the torys, the liberals took enough votes of the labour to let a tory in, its only a few cases where liberal lost there voter to the torys, have a real hard look at freemantle and harefield they lost votes to the liberals, even lo they won there ward there vote count was down when you take into account that the voting population has gone up in there areas, you watch what happens in the next 3 local election, the torys will be losing seats in the council, its there turn to have there seats up for gabs. southy
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1:25am Mon 10 May 10

southy says...

clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.

then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five.

He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied.

You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised.

Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla



t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.
why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are.
theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on.
dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.
0.38%
gave your man the thumbs up.

99.62%
gave him two fingers.

Why?

Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country.

Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters.
you just dont have a clue how it all works do you. before they can dismissed what we stand for they need to know about it first. whitch a majority dont know and dony know we excise yet. they also need to be registered to vote also and to vote. and for you to say what you did you will need 100% of the people to be registered and 100% to vote. just sink these figures in your head.
only 59% turned out to vote.
thats 59% of the people who registered to vote, whitch is very poor thats less than 1/2 of the voting population in southampton, dont say a lot for the all those right wing partys and thats with the 99% media being being right wing. and dont publish any thing that the left is doing. on the next outing we will clear that 100 candidates standing that is needed to be able to use the royal mail free of charge. at lest most of our deposits was saved though out the uk. unlike the christian alliance who never even got enough votes to save even one deposit and they had over 100 candidates standing and been at it for a few general election now.
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done[/p][/quote]I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five. He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied. You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised. Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.[/p][/quote]why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are. theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on. dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.[/p][/quote]0.38% gave your man the thumbs up. 99.62% gave him two fingers. Why? Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country. Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters.[/p][/quote]you just dont have a clue how it all works do you. before they can dismissed what we stand for they need to know about it first. whitch a majority dont know and dony know we excise yet. they also need to be registered to vote also and to vote. and for you to say what you did you will need 100% of the people to be registered and 100% to vote. just sink these figures in your head. only 59% turned out to vote. thats 59% of the people who registered to vote, whitch is very poor thats less than 1/2 of the voting population in southampton, dont say a lot for the all those right wing partys and thats with the 99% media being being right wing. and dont publish any thing that the left is doing. on the next outing we will clear that 100 candidates standing that is needed to be able to use the royal mail free of charge. at lest most of our deposits was saved though out the uk. unlike the christian alliance who never even got enough votes to save even one deposit and they had over 100 candidates standing and been at it for a few general election now. southy
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1:40am Mon 10 May 10

clausentum says...

southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
clausentum wrote:
southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.
theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk.
theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that.
people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable.
has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's)
only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote.
some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.
Nought point three eight percent.

Mathematics are marvelous.

Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes.

Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists.

You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.
clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong.
how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest.
TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days.
the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost.

then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here.
but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote.
theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done
I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five.

He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied.

You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised.

Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla




t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.
why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are.
theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on.
dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.
0.38%
gave your man the thumbs up.

99.62%
gave him two fingers.

Why?

Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country.

Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters.
you just dont have a clue how it all works do you. before they can dismissed what we stand for they need to know about it first. whitch a majority dont know and dony know we excise yet. they also need to be registered to vote also and to vote. and for you to say what you did you will need 100% of the people to be registered and 100% to vote. just sink these figures in your head.
only 59% turned out to vote.
thats 59% of the people who registered to vote, whitch is very poor thats less than 1/2 of the voting population in southampton, dont say a lot for the all those right wing partys and thats with the 99% media being being right wing. and dont publish any thing that the left is doing. on the next outing we will clear that 100 candidates standing that is needed to be able to use the royal mail free of charge. at lest most of our deposits was saved though out the uk. unlike the christian alliance who never even got enough votes to save even one deposit and they had over 100 candidates standing and been at it for a few general election now.
You are whistling in the wind, falling down an Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole. Which is reassuring to the 99.62% who saw you and your irrelevant cloth-capped 19th century mouthpiece as daft, demented, delusional and of no consequence.

Dream on . . .
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: TUSC? trade union membership is negligible and we've seen yet again at the polls that the majority of people have rejected socialism. Believe me, SCC's Labour councillors are not Conservatives. They may own their own homes but they do not share opinions with the ruling group.[/p][/quote]theres still over 5 million members in all the unions in the uk. theres 2 unions with over 1 million members in each of them, 4 unions are behind the TUSC all ready, there will be votes this year in others to join the TUSC, the SSNW is setting that up, it will only involve shop stewards and the rank and file, the union leadership will not have a say in the matter, they will have to comform with the members wishes or lose there jobs. it be simple has that. people have not rejected socialism most dont know that the TUSC excise yet or there is any socialist party nor do they know what they stand for. the socialist group are denied media cover in the news. they dont want the public to know about all the good work they do in helping people out, and you need to also relise how long did it take for the labour party to get voted into goverment, from the day when the railway union first formed the labour party, in those days the media news was a lot slower compare todays standards, plus half the country is not voting because there no one to vote for. then there are those that vote labour just to keep the torys out, but will swap over when the times comes to ditch labour. if you went on the street and talk to people you would know this, and there are those that hang on to labour in slim hope of a chance that labour will be won back by the socialist, and the only way this can happen is to totally destroy the labour party make them unelectable. has for scc labour councilor not being tory-labour you are wrong, 1/ they never support any of the strikes, 2/ they agree on job cuts or to fight for those who lost there jobs 3/ they all refuse to agree and to sign the people charter 4/ they refuse to stop making any expensive claims (both counciler's and mp's) only 4 labour mp's signed the people charter and agree to it. and you should of seen there vote results they whitewash all the other partys with very big gains in numbers of there vote. some thing else for you to think about only 57% of the people who registered to vote this time round voted, it was only up 5% from last time, that is still very low. just think if the rest of the 43% had voted what would of happen to the tory con party, and those that did not bother to register did register and voted, 90% of all those that could of voted that did not vote are your socialist voters.[/p][/quote]Nought point three eight percent. Mathematics are marvelous. Mr Cutter's election result speaks volumes. Oh, silly me. His derisory number is not his fault. Of course not. It's the fault of the 43% of the registered electorate who didn't vote . But wait! To be more precise, his 0.38% is really the fault of 90% of that 43%, who are smart? socialists. You need to return your Abacus to the shop. It is faulty and likely beyond repair.[/p][/quote]clausentum ok let see where you are going wrong. how many years have the labour, liberals, tory-con party and the rest had to lead up to the general election. then convert it to days divide by the number of votes. the do the same for TUSC, dont look so good now do it for the big 3 and the rest. TUSC never got all there leaflets delivered in southampton itchen only about 1 in every 130 possible homes, where has the big 3 could use the royal mail had leaflet delivered to every door at lest once in every 4 days. the TUSC dont have the millions of pounds that is donated to the other partys, the cost of just standing one person is about the £5000 mark, £500 is for the deposit the rest is publishing of leaflets and odds and sods of extra cost. then look what happen over here on the test, the number of people who voted was down, the torys vote stayed about the same, the labour vote went down, the liberal vote went up, and this was about the same all over the country, and its because of this why there a hung government, there was a real chance here to remove our labour mp and keep out the tory mp and place a liberal in there just to send a message to government it nearly work over here. but there is that danger when you do some thing like this, is that you let in a tory in power, like it came reasonable close on the itchen in doing, we now got less than 2 years before the next election thats still hanging in the balance we could be going back to the polls at the end of june. whitch give us no time at all to let those who dont vote that we are there for them and get them back to the polls to vote. theres a lot more to it than just a figure, every party that took part now will be going though all that they done and look at the end result and going though each area to see if they can improve on what they have done, the meeting's for the next election have all ready started for selection and debates for the next manifest, there a lot of work to be done[/p][/quote]I'm reminded of Winston Smith sitting in room 101, holding four fingers in the air and being able to see five. He at least got his sums wrong through no fault of his own and could be pitied. You get your sums wrong through sheer delusion and dishonesty and can be despised. Sign me up as a fully paid member of your Grey-Featureless-Fla t-Earth-Society so I may get an insider glimpse of the ridiculous games of flawed-logic and made-up nonsense there that allows you to propagate such stupid twaddle.[/p][/quote]why would you want to sign up to the flat world society when your all ready the president of it. strange person you are. theres no delusion its just your narrow mindedness and unable to see whats will happen tomorrow. and see the whole thing that is going on. dont that depend on if you count the thumb has a finger. what he was trying to tell you by holding four fingers up, is that is all you can see, but he could see his thumb and counted that too. narrow minded people see four and dont count the thumb while others see the whole picture and counted the thumb.[/p][/quote]0.38% gave your man the thumbs up. 99.62% gave him two fingers. Why? Because they dismissed what he and you stand for as being 100% irrelevant to them, to their families, to their community and to their Country. Play the childish blame game as long as you like. But you and your man have only yourselves to blame for being so comprehensively walloped by the voters.[/p][/quote]you just dont have a clue how it all works do you. before they can dismissed what we stand for they need to know about it first. whitch a majority dont know and dony know we excise yet. they also need to be registered to vote also and to vote. and for you to say what you did you will need 100% of the people to be registered and 100% to vote. just sink these figures in your head. only 59% turned out to vote. thats 59% of the people who registered to vote, whitch is very poor thats less than 1/2 of the voting population in southampton, dont say a lot for the all those right wing partys and thats with the 99% media being being right wing. and dont publish any thing that the left is doing. on the next outing we will clear that 100 candidates standing that is needed to be able to use the royal mail free of charge. at lest most of our deposits was saved though out the uk. unlike the christian alliance who never even got enough votes to save even one deposit and they had over 100 candidates standing and been at it for a few general election now.[/p][/quote]You are whistling in the wind, falling down an Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole. Which is reassuring to the 99.62% who saw you and your irrelevant cloth-capped 19th century mouthpiece as daft, demented, delusional and of no consequence. Dream on . . . clausentum
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9:42am Mon 10 May 10

Lone Ranger says...

Didn't realise that we so many bitter little Smith supporters. Must have hit some sort of nerve with him losing the big seat opportunity.
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The thing is more people believe and trust Denham than the loser Smith...just look at the votes. HE LOST.
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And it goes top show that when he enters the world of big boys politics then he is a loser.
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As i said ...Get over it !!!!
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He was not confident of winning....just like Moulton or else they would have resigned their Council seats
Didn't realise that we so many bitter little Smith supporters. Must have hit some sort of nerve with him losing the big seat opportunity. . The thing is more people believe and trust Denham than the loser Smith...just look at the votes. HE LOST. . And it goes top show that when he enters the world of big boys politics then he is a loser. . As i said ...Get over it !!!! . He was not confident of winning....just like Moulton or else they would have resigned their Council seats Lone Ranger
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