Mum demands answers from health chiefs over 13-year-old's contraceptive implant (From Daily Echo)
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Mum urges health chiefs to review sexual health services for youngsters
4:00pm Thursday 9th February 2012 in Southampton
Mum demands answers from health chiefs over 13-year-old's contraceptive inplant
Health bosses asked a mother for permission to talk to her young daughter about contraceptive services – even though they fitted the 13-year-old with a birth control implant without her knowing.
The face-to-face meeting came after the Daily Echo broke the news that she had being fitted with the contraceptive implant on school grounds without the mother’s consent.
The angry mum demanded answers from Solent NHS Trust following her daughter’s minor surgical procedure and urged health chiefs to review the sexual health services they offer.
Although proud of her daughter for thinking to protect herself, the mum claims that even her daughter’s doctor was not informed and the girl was not made to have any follow-up appointments.
Following yesterday’s meeting the mum, who the Daily Echo has chosen not to identify, says health chiefs confirmed that no clinical tests for the implant had been carried out on those under 18.
Before the meeting started she placed a photograph of her daughter in the middle of the table.
She said: “I just wanted to let them know that she isn’t just an object or a statistic, she is a human being and, most of all, she is my baby girl.
“They admitted to me that clinical trials had only been carried out on those over 18, so how can they know that this device is safe for my daughter when it has never been properly tested?
“This makes the need for follow-up appointments for my daughter even more vital because they simply do not know how it would affect my 13-year-old, whose body is already going through so many changes.
“If tests have not been done on younger girls, they cannot know the side-effects this could have on their development.
“I am still so angry and frustrated. They couldn’t answer most of my questions and just said that there would be a full investigation into the service.
“I will take this all the way until something is done to change this.
“What I found hard to believe was that they said they would like to speak to my daughter but that they needed my consent to do that – a bit ironic when they feel they can perform a minor surgical procedure on her to fit an implant without my knowledge.”
Judy Hillier, director of nursing and quality at Solent NHS Trust, said: “I can confirm that we have met with the mother of one of our patients today to discuss some concerns she has had over services provided to her child. We cannot go into the detail of that discussion due to confidentiality reasons.
“We can, however, give assurance to anyone who comes into contact with any of our community and mental health services that we are an organisation that practices the ‘open and honesty policy’.
“We are more than happy to listen to and act on any concerns people may have regarding any aspect of the services we deliver.
“Our services use drugs and practices that are supported by evidence and are appropriate for all age groups. We also follow national guidance and comply fully with legal requirements.”
Comments(21)
Shoong
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4:33pm Thu 9 Feb 12
menotyou
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4:39pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Here, There
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5:15pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Condor Man
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5:54pm Thu 9 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2
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6:08pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I don't agree with 13 year olds having sex, but the mother has them by the proverbials as they've admitted no clinical trials on under 18s and therein lies the problem. whatever the views on pre-16s having contraceptive advice this is the crux of the matter.
as someone said, you can be the best parent in the world but the internet, peer pressure, TV/media which has sex everywhere has a big part to play!
As for people again judging the mother and daughter - you don't know them and all the details - suggesting that she's on a crusade for compensation is just laughable frankly.....
Here, There
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6:30pm Thu 9 Feb 12
r someone who seems wholly against Judging then shoots her mouth off before reading ALL the content on a post before having a pop is somewhat hypocritical but to goes on to quote from the very same post smacks of stupidity but hey ho.
St Denys I.T.A
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6:41pm Thu 9 Feb 12
menotyou
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9:27pm Thu 9 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Really? what planet do you live on of course she is after compensation! do read the story! this woman is so contradictory it is laughable!
to the man who suggests fitting ALL females with a device, how about we put ALL boys in a device to stop them having babies too! ridiculous... I'm betting you wouldn't let your daughter or granddaughter have one! or maybe we should go a bit further with the dog legislation and have all teens microchipped too?
I don't agree with 13 year olds having sex, but the mother has them by the proverbials as they've admitted no clinical trials on under 18s and therein lies the problem. whatever the views on pre-16s having contraceptive advice this is the crux of the matter.
as someone said, you can be the best parent in the world but the internet, peer pressure, TV/media which has sex everywhere has a big part to play!
As for people again judging the mother and daughter - you don't know them and all the details - suggesting that she's on a crusade for compensation is just laughable frankly.....
IronLady2010
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9:51pm Thu 9 Feb 12
If it is true it has only been tested on over 18's then this opens up a huge problem as a 13 year old is going through changes.
This case could be a massive shake up of UK Law where sex under a certain age is illegal full stop, not this shaky Law of it's ok if a 13 year old consents which I believe stands now. (it does which I was shocked about).
I find it difficult to understand how the mother accepts her own daughter who is a child, was responsible enough to take this precaution of the implant, personally I would be ashamed!
If I were Mom, I'd be dragging her down the local clap clinic! Sorry mom, but you have done something wrong in bringing up your daughter?
The more I read this story, the more I feel sick!
executedsoul
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12:27am Fri 10 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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12:33am Fri 10 Feb 12
executedsoul wrote:"I think it has really helped me because if I am with my boyfriend and we feel like having sex but no other contraception is available or if something goes wrong, I have that peace of mind knowing that I am OK."
My first question to all you bigots, is 'where in this story does it state the girl is sexually active'? before commenting, you might want to get your own houses in order
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/9518594.
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Keep up!
IronLady2010
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12:34am Fri 10 Feb 12
executedsoul wrote:What's your second question to us bigots?
My first question to all you bigots, is 'where in this story does it state the girl is sexually active'? before commenting, you might want to get your own houses in order
IronLady2010
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12:40am Fri 10 Feb 12
executedsoul wrote:I agree with getting your house in order before you start commenting ;-)
My first question to all you bigots, is 'where in this story does it state the girl is sexually active'? before commenting, you might want to get your own houses in order
freemantlegirl2
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9:43am Fri 10 Feb 12
as for someone calling the young girl names, you are the lowest of the low.... that's what I have a problem with, the parent parading this in the press and subjecting her daughter (albeit anonymous) to horrific scrutiny and comments like that. She should have given a lot more thought before wheeling out the press, although the debate needs to be heard, not at the cost of a young girl being vilified!
Whatever anyone thinks of the situation, and my OWN opinion is that I think people aren't quite getting a grip of what the actual issue is - i.e. carrying out a medical procedure for which the parent's permission hasn't been sought (after all we have to sign permission for our kids to have injections in schools and god knows what else) seems ridiculous. I think that advice on contraception is fine but carrying out a procedure where clinical trials haven't been carried out on under 18s is foolhardy. I like to live in the real world and not jump to conclusions about compensation - that is worthy of the average Daily Fail reader that everyone is a scrounger, composeeker or whatever - yawwwwnn.
St Denys I.T.A
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10:22am Fri 10 Feb 12
Shoong
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10:28am Fri 10 Feb 12
freemantlegirl2 wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with it. Over population is the biggest problem we as a nation, indeed the world, face.
to the man who suggests fitting ALL females with a device, how about we put ALL boys in a device to stop them having babies too! ridiculous... I'm betting you wouldn't let your daughter or granddaughter have one! or maybe we should go a bit further with the dog legislation and have all teens microchipped too?
I don't agree with 13 year olds having sex, but the mother has them by the proverbials as they've admitted no clinical trials on under 18s and therein lies the problem. whatever the views on pre-16s having contraceptive advice this is the crux of the matter.
as someone said, you can be the best parent in the world but the internet, peer pressure, TV/media which has sex everywhere has a big part to play!
As for people again judging the mother and daughter - you don't know them and all the details - suggesting that she's on a crusade for compensation is just laughable frankly.....
Besides, I'm fed up with seeing miserable looking teenage girls pushing buggies around, they are capable of doing so much more with themselves while they are young rather than living a life dependent on benefits & chasing money from absent fathers which ends up costing all of us, it could all be avoided. Surely a little bit of experience of life is handy before taking on the most important responsibility of all - raising decent children.
egghead65
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10:40am Fri 10 Feb 12
AlfredJones wrote:you dont have kids or you wouldn't be like that.ive got 3 girls and if they done that to one of my girls i would hit the roof.grow up you dinlo sadlife
“I just wanted to let them know that she isn’t just an object or a statistic, she is a human being and, most of all, she is my baby girl. "
She forgot to say "who is already fully sexually active even though she is 13, not ready emotionally, and not ready physicially for what that means."
To her boyfriend I am sure she is just an object. Girls like that are passed from pillar to post at my son's school - I am not sure what level of protection the implant will provide from STD's? None I suspect.
To the Mother. Have a think why your daughter didn't come to you and talk about it - yet she has spoken to the press! Her morals are largely learnt from her environment (or you).
You might want to sit down and have a good shouty meeting with yourself - then blame others!
AlfredJones
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4:16pm Fri 10 Feb 12
egghead65 wrote:Yep, I do have kids.
AlfredJones wrote:you dont have kids or you wouldn't be like that.ive got 3 girls and if they done that to one of my girls i would hit the roof.grow up you dinlo sadlife
“I just wanted to let them know that she isn’t just an object or a statistic, she is a human being and, most of all, she is my baby girl. "
She forgot to say "who is already fully sexually active even though she is 13, not ready emotionally, and not ready physicially for what that means."
To her boyfriend I am sure she is just an object. Girls like that are passed from pillar to post at my son's school - I am not sure what level of protection the implant will provide from STD's? None I suspect.
To the Mother. Have a think why your daughter didn't come to you and talk about it - yet she has spoken to the press! Her morals are largely learnt from her environment (or you).
You might want to sit down and have a good shouty meeting with yourself - then blame others!
Yes they are the same age.
Yes they do talk to me and my wife about things like that - odd as it may be I am happily married to the mother of my children!
This girl wants to behave sexually like a grown up. Her mother is apparently happy with that situation - her only grip is the medical procedure. Therefore since she is playing adult she should be allowed to have the contraception?
As mentioned above whether this is the best method who knows.
...and really? Dinlo sadlife? that means what? I think you will see people have got a good grip of this story, so I won't be doing any "growing up".
You seem to be suggesting with the tone some kind of force being applied? "If they (had) done that to one of my girls"... This girl went to them (as she couldn't go to her Mum), had initial councilling and then had it implanted.
The question of whether she, aged 13, should have been able to make that decision alone is a whole different one altogether.
100%HANTSBOY
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5:51pm Fri 10 Feb 12
egghead65 wrote:Dinlo sadlife ???? Oh my God !! GROW UP !!
AlfredJones wrote:you dont have kids or you wouldn't be like that.ive got 3 girls and if they done that to one of my girls i would hit the roof.grow up you dinlo sadlife
“I just wanted to let them know that she isn’t just an object or a statistic, she is a human being and, most of all, she is my baby girl. "
She forgot to say "who is already fully sexually active even though she is 13, not ready emotionally, and not ready physicially for what that means."
To her boyfriend I am sure she is just an object. Girls like that are passed from pillar to post at my son's school - I am not sure what level of protection the implant will provide from STD's? None I suspect.
To the Mother. Have a think why your daughter didn't come to you and talk about it - yet she has spoken to the press! Her morals are largely learnt from her environment (or you).
You might want to sit down and have a good shouty meeting with yourself - then blame others!
Is this a responsible parent?
bish,bash,bosh,tosh
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9:28am Sat 11 Feb 12
question:Do other medicines affect the reliability of the Nexplanon implant?
Answer: Some medicines may affect the efficacy of the contraceptive implant. This includes drugs used to treat epilepsy, some antibiotics, treatments for tuberculosis and the herbal remedy St. John’s Wort. It is important that you remember to tell your doctor or pharmacist that you are using the Nexplanon implant when other medicines are being prescribed for you, or when you buy over-the-counter medicines. Also remember to tell the doctor or nurse who attends to you if you have to have treatment in hospital.
Does the government seriously expect a 13 year old to do this ??
Check out the website which also states that you need routine check ups...
http://www.nexplanon
.co.uk/68/Common-que
stions
If this is going on now and is not stopped what will be passed as law next.
The people who have slated the mother involved should be extremely grateful that she has brought this to the publics attention. This is one NHS service that the government MUST reform
AlfredJones says...
4:20pm Thu 9 Feb 12
She forgot to say "who is already fully sexually active even though she is 13, not ready emotionally, and not ready physicially for what that means."
To her boyfriend I am sure she is just an object. Girls like that are passed from pillar to post at my son's school - I am not sure what level of protection the implant will provide from STD's? None I suspect.
To the Mother. Have a think why your daughter didn't come to you and talk about it - yet she has spoken to the press! Her morals are largely learnt from her environment (or you).
You might want to sit down and have a good shouty meeting with yourself - then blame others!