City landmark up for sale for £30m (From Daily Echo)

Southamptons most iconic building... I think not!

One day the building will make very nice flats. Titter ye not.

Where will skandia go?

lightsouth wrote:
Where will skandia go?

Nowhere. It says they have renewed the lease.

hahahaha
''October 2009 at the height of the downturn''.

The depression is barely halfway through yet, i do wish the media were not so complicit in accepting the nonsense from govt, and certain parts of commerce and industry. When Brown bailed out the banks, he merely delayed the inevitable. The West's economic model is unsustainable and as banks step up their speculative attacks on individual countries the Euro crisis will derail any hope of recovery here. There can be no growth in an advanced developed nation without 3 things. 1, Exclusive access to an outstanding technological advance, 2, Further imperialism (theft) in poorer nations(Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen...Iran), or 3, the masses accept their living standards retreat 50years, no pensions, NHS or benefits. There is one alternative, maybe if we stopped allowing banks to create money instead of governments?

Skandia are also in the same road as the Mayflower.

peenut81 wrote:
hahahaha
''October 2009 at the height of the downturn''.

The depression is barely halfway through yet, i do wish the media were not so complicit in accepting the nonsense from govt, and certain parts of commerce and industry. When Brown bailed out the banks, he merely delayed the inevitable. The West's economic model is unsustainable and as banks step up their speculative attacks on individual countries the Euro crisis will derail any hope of recovery here. There can be no growth in an advanced developed nation without 3 things. 1, Exclusive access to an outstanding technological advance, 2, Further imperialism (theft) in poorer nations(Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen...Iran), or 3, the masses accept their living standards retreat 50years, no pensions, NHS or benefits. There is one alternative, maybe if we stopped allowing banks to create money instead of governments?

Spot on peenut. I think of your three alternatives I quite fancy going back 50 years. It will only be those living now that find it hard. As many people managed to be happy 50 years ago as they do now, at least as many.

peenut81 wrote:
hahahaha
''October 2009 at the height of the downturn''.

The depression is barely halfway through yet, i do wish the media were not so complicit in accepting the nonsense from govt, and certain parts of commerce and industry. When Brown bailed out the banks, he merely delayed the inevitable. The West's economic model is unsustainable and as banks step up their speculative attacks on individual countries the Euro crisis will derail any hope of recovery here. There can be no growth in an advanced developed nation without 3 things. 1, Exclusive access to an outstanding technological advance, 2, Further imperialism (theft) in poorer nations(Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen...Iran), or 3, the masses accept their living standards retreat 50years, no pensions, NHS or benefits. There is one alternative, maybe if we stopped allowing banks to create money instead of governments?

What is your blueprint alternative?
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Banks - We have a nation that, in the majority, is trying to absolve itself from blame for being complicit in creating the biggest CREDIT Bubble and the biggest PROPERTY Bubble this country has ever seen! (E.G. Everyone who had a Credit card or an unaffordable mortgage!)
OK, there is a tiny excuse in that the Labour government forgot to regulate the Financial sector!
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People have traded with money since the year dot - there is nothing wrong with trading in money.

Stillness wrote:

peenut81 wrote:
hahahaha
''October 2009 at the height of the downturn''.

The depression is barely halfway through yet, i do wish the media were not so complicit in accepting the nonsense from govt, and certain parts of commerce and industry. When Brown bailed out the banks, he merely delayed the inevitable. The West's economic model is unsustainable and as banks step up their speculative attacks on individual countries the Euro crisis will derail any hope of recovery here. There can be no growth in an advanced developed nation without 3 things. 1, Exclusive access to an outstanding technological advance, 2, Further imperialism (theft) in poorer nations(Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen...Iran), or 3, the masses accept their living standards retreat 50years, no pensions, NHS or benefits. There is one alternative, maybe if we stopped allowing banks to create money instead of governments?

Spot on peenut. I think of your three alternatives I quite fancy going back 50 years. It will only be those living now that find it hard. As many people managed to be happy 50 years ago as they do now, at least as many.

Spot on , why do governments pay interest on money to a private bank , the Bank of England , who owns every central bank in the world ? The Rothchilds , the richest family on the planet ,it stinks !!!!

Georgeiv from your comments on here over the months, i suspect you come from the class of society who has no idea about the realities of poverty, believes in the virtues of 'free trade' and votes blue like a religion.
1990's, the man on the street is offered low interest rates to buy (or invest!!) property or lifestyle commodities that is thrust at him from every cultural angle, is it his fault when the politicians, media and business community assure him its legit and sustainable, that when the same elite mess up, that he not only has to pay it back in increased taxation for the next generation but also takes the blame?
You are like most people i suspect unaware of the process by which money enters circulation, or deliberatly misrepresenting my point. If anyone is interested may i suggest positivemoney.org
To blame Labour is lazy, they had no choice but to accept the dictates of the 'market' for fear of capital flight. We are all hostage/slaves to the banks unless we as a nation wake up, rise up and demand change.

peenut81 wrote:
Georgeiv from your comments on here over the months, i suspect you come from the class of society who has no idea about the realities of poverty, believes in the virtues of 'free trade' and votes blue like a religion.
1990's, the man on the street is offered low interest rates to buy (or invest!!) property or lifestyle commodities that is thrust at him from every cultural angle, is it his fault when the politicians, media and business community assure him its legit and sustainable, that when the same elite mess up, that he not only has to pay it back in increased taxation for the next generation but also takes the blame?
You are like most people i suspect unaware of the process by which money enters circulation, or deliberatly misrepresenting my point. If anyone is interested may i suggest positivemoney.org
To blame Labour is lazy, they had no choice but to accept the dictates of the 'market' for fear of capital flight. We are all hostage/slaves to the banks unless we as a nation wake up, rise up and demand change.

You clearly have not read some of my posts or you would know I came from a poor background. And yes, I believe in free trade/markets and I am against the minimum wage! (It has stifled opportunity for the very people the liberals thought it would help!)
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You get out of life what you put in. Sadly, too many people in the UK seem to think that life owes them a living. Too many people want to blame everyone else for their ills when in truth they should look at themselves. Take fat people for a start - if Pauline Quirk can lose 8 stone in a year then imagine what is achievable by everyone else!

George4th wrote:

peenut81 wrote: Georgeiv from your comments on here over the months, i suspect you come from the class of society who has no idea about the realities of poverty, believes in the virtues of 'free trade' and votes blue like a religion. 1990's, the man on the street is offered low interest rates to buy (or invest!!) property or lifestyle commodities that is thrust at him from every cultural angle, is it his fault when the politicians, media and business community assure him its legit and sustainable, that when the same elite mess up, that he not only has to pay it back in increased taxation for the next generation but also takes the blame? You are like most people i suspect unaware of the process by which money enters circulation, or deliberatly misrepresenting my point. If anyone is interested may i suggest positivemoney.org To blame Labour is lazy, they had no choice but to accept the dictates of the 'market' for fear of capital flight. We are all hostage/slaves to the banks unless we as a nation wake up, rise up and demand change.

You clearly have not read some of my posts or you would know I came from a poor background. And yes, I believe in free trade/markets and I am against the minimum wage! (It has stifled opportunity for the very people the liberals thought it would help!) > You get out of life what you put in. Sadly, too many people in the UK seem to think that life owes them a living. Too many people want to blame everyone else for their ills when in truth they should look at themselves. Take fat people for a start - if Pauline Quirk can lose 8 stone in a year then imagine what is achievable by everyone else!

Ummmm !!
"Sale of Skandia House" to "Pauline Quirk "

Amazing where some of these "threads"go, isn't it !!!

George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

I think you'll find that insurance in the UK has to satisfy requirements in law thats only applicable to the UK, NI & CIs. When you try to claim on a policy underwritten by a company offshore, the cover might not be as extensive as a UK policy and the difference will be down to you to make up.

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

Minimum wage - look at the rest of the world to see who has a strong economy! Even the USA has a minimum wage about one third less than ours! How do you expect to compete?!
Another downside is pay differentials - employers will squeeze down to cover the cost thereby reducing opportunity for progression. They will also change full-time jobs into part-time jobs.
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The majority of economists say that a minimum wage will cost jobs..............

George4th wrote:

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

Minimum wage - look at the rest of the world to see who has a strong economy! Even the USA has a minimum wage about one third less than ours! How do you expect to compete?!
Another downside is pay differentials - employers will squeeze down to cover the cost thereby reducing opportunity for progression. They will also change full-time jobs into part-time jobs.
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The majority of economists say that a minimum wage will cost jobs..............

there is no need to compeat because of the exchange rate will balance it self out accordly.
At the moment China as the strongest economy and NWL applys there to.

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

I think you'll find that insurance in the UK has to satisfy requirements in law thats only applicable to the UK, NI & CIs. When you try to claim on a policy underwritten by a company offshore, the cover might not be as extensive as a UK policy and the difference will be down to you to make up.

And EU, your even stop now going to any country in the EU to get things like Home or Car insurances.
Japan offers the best deal in this area, and they will ajust according to UK and EU rules, and would have the same cover that you can get here, but thats been block, and yet any business or any one with a £1 million or more in the back can.

George4th wrote:

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

Minimum wage - look at the rest of the world to see who has a strong economy! Even the USA has a minimum wage about one third less than ours! How do you expect to compete?!
Another downside is pay differentials - employers will squeeze down to cover the cost thereby reducing opportunity for progression. They will also change full-time jobs into part-time jobs.
>
The majority of economists say that a minimum wage will cost jobs..............

And the USA is a "strong economy" - I think not. Why not cite Germany or the Netherlands?

"The majority of economists say that a minimum wage will cost jobs.............."

Evidence please for this assertion. This was the Tory mantra in 1997. It proved wrong then and it is wrong now.

I read in the Echo the other week that Southampton was short of office space!

It would appear that more and more people are interested in a high standard of living and less and less are interested in their quality of life. So many people are willing to put themselves in debt or spend all their time at work because they believe that their "standard of living" will be unacceptably low if they don't have an X-box or an Ipad. I guess if they are gullible enough to believe an advertizing company's bull s@1t that makes them fair game.

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

I think you'll find that insurance in the UK has to satisfy requirements in law thats only applicable to the UK, NI & CIs. When you try to claim on a policy underwritten by a company offshore, the cover might not be as extensive as a UK policy and the difference will be down to you to make up.

And EU, your even stop now going to any country in the EU to get things like Home or Car insurances.
Japan offers the best deal in this area, and they will ajust according to UK and EU rules, and would have the same cover that you can get here, but thats been block, and yet any business or any one with a £1 million or more in the back can.

Do you think Margaret Thatcher bought up the entire insurance business in the UK and changed the rules so that poor people can't buy insurance from Japan?

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

I think you'll find that insurance in the UK has to satisfy requirements in law thats only applicable to the UK, NI & CIs. When you try to claim on a policy underwritten by a company offshore, the cover might not be as extensive as a UK policy and the difference will be down to you to make up.

And EU, your even stop now going to any country in the EU to get things like Home or Car insurances.
Japan offers the best deal in this area, and they will ajust according to UK and EU rules, and would have the same cover that you can get here, but thats been block, and yet any business or any one with a £1 million or more in the back can.

Do you think Margaret Thatcher bought up the entire insurance business in the UK and changed the rules so that poor people can't buy insurance from Japan?

Yes he does, and he's right, because he says he so.

southy wrote:
George4th Theres no such thing as a free open trade markets, reason being they will not allow a state owned industry, and they will not allow you do things like getting your insurences overseas, or allow you to small time banking over seas.
This free open trade markets is not for the likes of odinary people its for the elitist only.
The min wage is a good thing its stops compamys using people as paid salves, and it needs to be extended to any overseas worker that is working here.

The minimum wage has unfortunately caused mayhem in our econony. The reason why is because it has increased the differential between our wages and those in other lower wage countries. This has led to economic migration from those nations due to this differential. Workers are prepared to live in cheap accomodation in the UK and send most of their money home via Cash Converters and other such companies. The money doesn't ever see the UK economy and only helps other countries economies. It has been a disaster. And you may also note that even the food sold to these workers is imported so the classic economic 'multiplier' effect does not work and has totally skewed our economy.

This is not a good investment , 30 mill to buy , 2 mill rent per annum, will it cover the payments for the borrowed money ??????

British asian wrote:
This is not a good investment , 30 mill to buy , 2 mill rent per annum, will it cover the payments for the borrowed money ??????

It's OK. I'll be paying cash. No need to borrow so no interest to pay.

lightsouth wrote:
Where will skandia go?

Back to Skandinavia you dope.

The blackest day in the working man's history is the day his boss told him his wages were being paid into a bank.
From that day on the working man was always going to be in debt.
Ask your company to pay you cash, after appropriate deductions have been made.
In other words a perfectly legal request.
You will find your employer does not have the neccesary finance to perform this simple act.
The company that buys this building do not need to have the money to buy this, just be able to promise that they might.

These comments are a bit like Chinese whispers............
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