Firefighters called to steaming wood chip pile at city docks

Daily Echo: Firefighters on alert after wood chippings smoulder at docks Firefighters on alert after wood chippings smoulder at docks

FIREFIGHTERS were today called out to a huge steaming pile of wood chippings at Southampton docks.

Crews from St Mary’s and Redbridge were called to the King George V Dry Dock in Millbrook Road just before 2am this morning to reports the 25m high pile was smouldering.

But firefighters arrived on the scene to find heat from the decomposition of the wood had caused it to start steaming rather than catch alight.

Ian Jacobs, general manager of Solent Stevedores, said: “This is in fact a normal process that occurs when the surrounding air temperature drops, which happens commonly and presents no fire danger.

“At the request of the fire service we arranged for a crane to remove woodchips from the top of the pile to confirm it was only steam, which it duly did.

“At no stage was there any fire risk and the temperature inside the pile this morning is between 13C and 18C, which is a normal, safe level.”

He added temperatures inside the wood chip piles are tested daily with a heat probe. He said wood is regularly moved to prevent the build-up of heat due to the decomposition process.

Last month about 5,000 tonnes of scrap metal caught fire at King George V Dry Dock. Smoke from the fire, which took days to burn out, could be seen from across the Solent.

Developers want to build a controversial 100-megawatt biomass power plant on nearby site that would burn up to 800,000 tonnes of wood fuel a year.

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9:29am Thu 17 May 12

asaspacey says...

Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton.
Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton. asaspacey

10:11am Thu 17 May 12

The Salv says...

asaspacey wrote:
Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton.
What they should is move the port and docks out of Southampton and let the sea reclaim back the land. Then we can all live in peace and tranquility and not have to worry about noise pollution.
[quote][p][bold]asaspacey[/bold] wrote: Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton.[/p][/quote]What they should is move the port and docks out of Southampton and let the sea reclaim back the land. Then we can all live in peace and tranquility and not have to worry about noise pollution. The Salv

10:30am Thu 17 May 12

Andy Locks Heath says...

I agree this is a legitimate issue (for a change) assuming this was a natural phenomenon and not arson. If Helius cannot demonstrate how large quantities of organic matter will be stored safely without the risk of spontaneous combustion then that is a good reason to site the fuel storage (and perhaps the station as well) away from a population centre. If Helius cannot do this then perhaps leasing part of the military port (subject to questions about its future) for unloading would be an option using redundant land at Dibden Bay for storage. We have to protect jobs for the next generation of young people in this area as well as the people of Freemantle and Millbrook.
I agree this is a legitimate issue (for a change) assuming this was a natural phenomenon and not arson. If Helius cannot demonstrate how large quantities of organic matter will be stored safely without the risk of spontaneous combustion then that is a good reason to site the fuel storage (and perhaps the station as well) away from a population centre. If Helius cannot do this then perhaps leasing part of the military port (subject to questions about its future) for unloading would be an option using redundant land at Dibden Bay for storage. We have to protect jobs for the next generation of young people in this area as well as the people of Freemantle and Millbrook. Andy Locks Heath

10:44am Thu 17 May 12

bazzeroz says...

So, are these wood chippings anything to do with the 'proposed' biomass power plant? If so aren't they jumping the gun a little or do they know something the protesters don't? There's no mention as to the owners of these wood chippings.
So, are these wood chippings anything to do with the 'proposed' biomass power plant? If so aren't they jumping the gun a little or do they know something the protesters don't? There's no mention as to the owners of these wood chippings. bazzeroz

10:53am Thu 17 May 12

soton resident says...

I doubt the chippings have anything to do with Helius. Probably used for wood panel manufacture or gardens, etc
I doubt the chippings have anything to do with Helius. Probably used for wood panel manufacture or gardens, etc soton resident

11:05am Thu 17 May 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

asaspacey wrote:
Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton.
Hear, hear... yet another example of why this scrap metal shouldn't be there (stored by a salt pile!) either - although I don't think either are permanent. The fire risks are very high, and biomass wood pellet storage is an even bigger fire risk as has been demonstrated by the recent huge fire at Tilbury and another smaller one before it.

Apropos the recent scrap metal fire, it's a miracle no-one was killed/hurt as it blew across the dual carriageway blocking visability at particular moments for drivers. We have still had no explanation of how the scrap metal fire started, and now we have another with wood. Now we all know wood decomposes, so why are we now reading about yet another fire risk. to say I'm concerned about having a huge amounts of wood pellets being stored there is an understatement let alone the rest of it!
[quote][p][bold]asaspacey[/bold] wrote: Take note Helius. Expect a spinned response from them shortly. Listen to what our city is saying. We want to be Destination Southampton not Powerstation Southampton.[/p][/quote]Hear, hear... yet another example of why this scrap metal shouldn't be there (stored by a salt pile!) either - although I don't think either are permanent. The fire risks are very high, and biomass wood pellet storage is an even bigger fire risk as has been demonstrated by the recent huge fire at Tilbury and another smaller one before it. Apropos the recent scrap metal fire, it's a miracle no-one was killed/hurt as it blew across the dual carriageway blocking visability at particular moments for drivers. We have still had no explanation of how the scrap metal fire started, and now we have another with wood. Now we all know wood decomposes, so why are we now reading about yet another fire risk. to say I'm concerned about having a huge amounts of wood pellets being stored there is an understatement let alone the rest of it! freemantlegirl2

11:17am Thu 17 May 12

Condor Man says...

you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass!
you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass! Condor Man

12:38pm Thu 17 May 12

BillyTheKid says...

You know, I've lived in Southampton for over sixty years, and we haven't had any major fires associated with scrap material.

Developers want to build a processing plant, the locals don't want it, and hey ho, two big scrap piles suddenly catch fire. It's the sort of story line you get in American made-for-TV shows like Murder She Wrote.

We, the general public, are being conned and manipulated on a scale we've never seen before. Two gangs of incompetents fight each other constantly for control of SCC. Our shops are full of cheap, poorly-made "products" as manufacturers engage in price wars. Cyclists ride on the path, children take drugs and carry knives to school, and all around is the constant "buzz and bang" of yet more short, fat, wooly-hatted, cowboy "property developers" pulling more houses apart unnecessarily to sell on, on the pretext they are just trying to make a living.

OK, so my piece sounds like tabloid hyperbole, but the essential truth is that we need stacks more money going into improving our society and the quality of our lives, and not into the bank accounts of profiteers.
You know, I've lived in Southampton for over sixty years, and we haven't had any major fires associated with scrap material. Developers want to build a processing plant, the locals don't want it, and hey ho, two big scrap piles suddenly catch fire. It's the sort of story line you get in American made-for-TV shows like Murder She Wrote. We, the general public, are being conned and manipulated on a scale we've never seen before. Two gangs of incompetents fight each other constantly for control of SCC. Our shops are full of cheap, poorly-made "products" as manufacturers engage in price wars. Cyclists ride on the path, children take drugs and carry knives to school, and all around is the constant "buzz and bang" of yet more short, fat, wooly-hatted, cowboy "property developers" pulling more houses apart unnecessarily to sell on, on the pretext they are just trying to make a living. OK, so my piece sounds like tabloid hyperbole, but the essential truth is that we need stacks more money going into improving our society and the quality of our lives, and not into the bank accounts of profiteers. BillyTheKid

1:19pm Thu 17 May 12

southy says...

Billy you been here over 60 years, that last scrap metal fire was not the first one seen in Southampton, I can remember one at Browns 601 berth.
Billy you been here over 60 years, that last scrap metal fire was not the first one seen in Southampton, I can remember one at Browns 601 berth. southy

1:21pm Thu 17 May 12

southy says...

Andy the only way to store stuff like this is in small amounts or spread out in a thin layer
Andy the only way to store stuff like this is in small amounts or spread out in a thin layer southy

2:33pm Thu 17 May 12

teamgreen says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
You know, I've lived in Southampton for over sixty years, and we haven't had any major fires associated with scrap material. Developers want to build a processing plant, the locals don't want it, and hey ho, two big scrap piles suddenly catch fire. It's the sort of story line you get in American made-for-TV shows like Murder She Wrote. We, the general public, are being conned and manipulated on a scale we've never seen before. Two gangs of incompetents fight each other constantly for control of SCC. Our shops are full of cheap, poorly-made "products" as manufacturers engage in price wars. Cyclists ride on the path, children take drugs and carry knives to school, and all around is the constant "buzz and bang" of yet more short, fat, wooly-hatted, cowboy "property developers" pulling more houses apart unnecessarily to sell on, on the pretext they are just trying to make a living. OK, so my piece sounds like tabloid hyperbole, but the essential truth is that we need stacks more money going into improving our society and the quality of our lives, and not into the bank accounts of profiteers.
dont forget the drink drivers or the ones who use mobile phones when driving,parking on pavements etc
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: You know, I've lived in Southampton for over sixty years, and we haven't had any major fires associated with scrap material. Developers want to build a processing plant, the locals don't want it, and hey ho, two big scrap piles suddenly catch fire. It's the sort of story line you get in American made-for-TV shows like Murder She Wrote. We, the general public, are being conned and manipulated on a scale we've never seen before. Two gangs of incompetents fight each other constantly for control of SCC. Our shops are full of cheap, poorly-made "products" as manufacturers engage in price wars. Cyclists ride on the path, children take drugs and carry knives to school, and all around is the constant "buzz and bang" of yet more short, fat, wooly-hatted, cowboy "property developers" pulling more houses apart unnecessarily to sell on, on the pretext they are just trying to make a living. OK, so my piece sounds like tabloid hyperbole, but the essential truth is that we need stacks more money going into improving our society and the quality of our lives, and not into the bank accounts of profiteers.[/p][/quote]dont forget the drink drivers or the ones who use mobile phones when driving,parking on pavements etc teamgreen

5:12pm Thu 17 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Condor Man wrote:
you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass!
Have you got Solar Panels on your roof yet? Save the Planet, set an example.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass![/p][/quote]Have you got Solar Panels on your roof yet? Save the Planet, set an example. OSPREYSAINT

7:53pm Thu 17 May 12

forest hump says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Condor Man wrote: you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass!
Have you got Solar Panels on your roof yet? Save the Planet, set an example.
It is not the planet that requires saving. It is the occupants that need to be protected from lying, cheating, greedy politicians and governments. Those who hide behind global warming claptrap to rob us blind.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: you'd all moan if the lights went out. Build the Biomass![/p][/quote]Have you got Solar Panels on your roof yet? Save the Planet, set an example.[/p][/quote]It is not the planet that requires saving. It is the occupants that need to be protected from lying, cheating, greedy politicians and governments. Those who hide behind global warming claptrap to rob us blind. forest hump

8:11pm Thu 17 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

southy wrote:
Billy you been here over 60 years, that last scrap metal fire was not the first one seen in Southampton, I can remember one at Browns 601 berth.
Southy ... wasnt there one next to Coalporters Rowing Club at Northam Bridge about 5 years ago that involved scrap metal
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Billy you been here over 60 years, that last scrap metal fire was not the first one seen in Southampton, I can remember one at Browns 601 berth.[/p][/quote]Southy ... wasnt there one next to Coalporters Rowing Club at Northam Bridge about 5 years ago that involved scrap metal Lone Ranger.

3:25am Fri 18 May 12

BillyTheKid says...

It seems some people find our impoverished existence amusing. Well, you only get one life, so you might as well try and find ways to improve this mosh pit of a world before you die, otherwise there's no point in you being here, is there ?
It seems some people find our impoverished existence amusing. Well, you only get one life, so you might as well try and find ways to improve this mosh pit of a world before you die, otherwise there's no point in you being here, is there ? BillyTheKid

11:48am Fri 25 May 12

Dan Soton says...

Re: Helius to burn up to 800,000 tonnes of biomass wood/material per year.

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I'm no scientist but.. think of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, controls on eating Welsh/Cumbria sheep were lifted this March 2012.
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Ref: BBC.. http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-wales-17472
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Associated British Ports Southampton/Hull/Imm
ingham are importing biomass fuel/wood from Russia and the Baltic States, Finland, and Sweden.
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which forests were hit the hardest by Chernobyl's nuclear fallout?.. Russia and the Baltic States, Finland, and Sweden.
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See YouTube video of radiation fallout plot over Europe during Chernobyl incident.
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http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=MU4_bJT8W
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Re: Helius to burn up to 800,000 tonnes of biomass wood/material per year. - I'm no scientist but.. think of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, controls on eating Welsh/Cumbria sheep were lifted this March 2012. - Ref: BBC.. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-wales-17472 698 - Associated British Ports Southampton/Hull/Imm ingham are importing biomass fuel/wood from Russia and the Baltic States, Finland, and Sweden. - which forests were hit the hardest by Chernobyl's nuclear fallout?.. Russia and the Baltic States, Finland, and Sweden. - See YouTube video of radiation fallout plot over Europe during Chernobyl incident. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=MU4_bJT8W 3Y Dan Soton

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