Engineer’s £21,000 benefits con

Engineer’s £21,000 benefits con

Engineer’s £21,000 benefits con

First published in Southampton

AN ENGINEER from Southampton conned the taxpayer out of more than £21,000 for benefits even though he had a house in Spain, a court heard.

Southampton magistrates heard how Roger Stebbing kept quiet about his home that been worth up to 180,000 euros, roughly equivalent to £141,000, when claiming pension credits, council tax and housing benefits.

Stebbing, of Padwell Road, in Bevois Town, admitted two counts of benefit fraud by making false statements in 2008.

The 65-year-old has pledged to pay it all back because he has just sold his property at a discounted amount of 105,000 euros, which is about £81,000.

In mitigation, the court heard how Stebbing had moved out to Spain in 2001 from Hedge End, after working in the pipe laying industry, to set up a snooker hall. He moved back in 2008 after separating from his partner.

Then, crippled by arthritis, he made a claim without telling the benefits agency about his home in the sun because it was “out of sight, out of mind”.

Presiding magistrate Brandy Gill said the court would spare Stebbing a community order because of his poor health. He was fined £200 and ordered to pay £265 in costs.

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9:12am Fri 8 Jun 12

Queen Victoria says...

another one bites the dust while we the taxpayer foot the bill,well done Britain
another one bites the dust while we the taxpayer foot the bill,well done Britain Queen Victoria
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10:05am Fri 8 Jun 12

Willy47 says...

Hang Him
Hang Him Willy47
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12:27pm Fri 8 Jun 12

loosehead says...

Didn't know that one.
So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit?
I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social?
I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not
Didn't know that one. So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit? I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social? I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not loosehead
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7:44pm Fri 8 Jun 12

Huffter says...

If he can't remember he's got a home in Spain, I doubt whether arthritis is his biggest problem.
If he can't remember he's got a home in Spain, I doubt whether arthritis is his biggest problem. Huffter
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8:52pm Fri 8 Jun 12

solomum says...

loosehead wrote:
Didn't know that one.
So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit?
I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social?
I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not
It looks like the issue here is non disclosure. I would imagine that if he had declared the oversees property, was not earning an income from it and could not sell it, then he would have been entitled to benefit anyway. The article does not say if he had been trying to sell it for the past 4 years or if he was keeping it as a holiday home whilst claiming benefits here. At least he has said he will pay the benefits back once the property is sold, and it is only right that he does do that. There does need to be some form of punishment though for with holding information.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Didn't know that one. So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit? I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social? I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not[/p][/quote]It looks like the issue here is non disclosure. I would imagine that if he had declared the oversees property, was not earning an income from it and could not sell it, then he would have been entitled to benefit anyway. The article does not say if he had been trying to sell it for the past 4 years or if he was keeping it as a holiday home whilst claiming benefits here. At least he has said he will pay the benefits back once the property is sold, and it is only right that he does do that. There does need to be some form of punishment though for with holding information. solomum
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9:22pm Fri 8 Jun 12

loosehead says...

solomum wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Didn't know that one.
So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit?
I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social?
I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not
It looks like the issue here is non disclosure. I would imagine that if he had declared the oversees property, was not earning an income from it and could not sell it, then he would have been entitled to benefit anyway. The article does not say if he had been trying to sell it for the past 4 years or if he was keeping it as a holiday home whilst claiming benefits here. At least he has said he will pay the benefits back once the property is sold, and it is only right that he does do that. There does need to be some form of punishment though for with holding information.
I was made redundant I asked if I could be put on a training scheme but was told I would have to pay for it myself so I did.
In my ECDL course there were Russians,Polish you name it all being funded by the Social.
I couldn't claim job seekers allowance even though I was told I could before I was redundant,
I asked if they could help by either covering my council tax or my NI stamp the answer was NO.
I put my property up for sell & sold it before I finished my course .
My wife is Thai so I tried living there As a Falang I wasn't allowed to buy anything or work.
So we bought the house in my wifes name & now are money's stuck in Thailand due to Thai law.
I came back sleeping on my sisters sofa & didn't merit enough points to get a council home yet saw foreigners getting them.
I've stretched myself in buying a property ( large mortgage). In Thailand the Thais come first & thai-Land belongs to the Thais not foreigners .
I could only ever be a long term holidaymaker over there & I wonder if we should be adopting this attitude?
I don't know this case in depth but how many people knew/know they have to put down foreign property on their Social claim or tax Form?
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Didn't know that one. So if you've bought a house abroad can't sell it move back with no visible income you can't claim benefit? I wonder how many of our Eastern European friends have homes back in their countries & then go on council housing lists here & claim social? I've lived abroad & have nothing against legal migration here but we have to make it a level playing field for the British people which at this moment it's not[/p][/quote]It looks like the issue here is non disclosure. I would imagine that if he had declared the oversees property, was not earning an income from it and could not sell it, then he would have been entitled to benefit anyway. The article does not say if he had been trying to sell it for the past 4 years or if he was keeping it as a holiday home whilst claiming benefits here. At least he has said he will pay the benefits back once the property is sold, and it is only right that he does do that. There does need to be some form of punishment though for with holding information.[/p][/quote]I was made redundant I asked if I could be put on a training scheme but was told I would have to pay for it myself so I did. In my ECDL course there were Russians,Polish you name it all being funded by the Social. I couldn't claim job seekers allowance even though I was told I could before I was redundant, I asked if they could help by either covering my council tax or my NI stamp the answer was NO. I put my property up for sell & sold it before I finished my course . My wife is Thai so I tried living there As a Falang I wasn't allowed to buy anything or work. So we bought the house in my wifes name & now are money's stuck in Thailand due to Thai law. I came back sleeping on my sisters sofa & didn't merit enough points to get a council home yet saw foreigners getting them. I've stretched myself in buying a property ( large mortgage). In Thailand the Thais come first & thai-Land belongs to the Thais not foreigners . I could only ever be a long term holidaymaker over there & I wonder if we should be adopting this attitude? I don't know this case in depth but how many people knew/know they have to put down foreign property on their Social claim or tax Form? loosehead
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