Saints to revamp St Mary's?

An artist's impresion of the revamped St Mary's An artist's impresion of the revamped St Mary's

SAINTS have released artist’s impressions that appear to show possible plans for a St Mary’s Stadium expansion.

The drawings were contained on a DVD given to fans who have renewed their season tickets.

They look to show extensions to the Kingsland, Northam and Chapel stands, with a fresh frontage on the stadium.

A new building is also attached to the back of what appears to be the Chapel end in the drawings.

The designs are included on a DVD which features a review of the last three campaigns, as well as a selection of interviews.

Fans shouldn’t get too excited yet, though.

Rumours of a possible St Mary’s expansion have been circulating since Markus Liebherr’s takeover of the club was completed in 2009.

But no plans have been lodged with Southampton City Council, and Saints themselves have not so much as mentioned the artist’s impressions on their website.

The drawings were also featured under the hardly-definitive heading “our future?” in the DVD.

Saints are unlikely to consider putting any expensive plans in motion unless they can safely establish themselves as a high-flying Premier League club.

They would also need to be confident of a season ticket base that is both big enough and loyal enough to warrant the initial costs and sustain the necessary crowds to make an expansion viable.

While attendances last season were impressive, Saints’ average St Mary’s crowd was still nearly 6,000 below the ground’s current capacity.

Comments(103)

Tipee lightbulb says...
11:28am Wed 20 Jun 12

Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!

stjimmy76 says...
11:44am Wed 20 Jun 12

Here you go...
https://twitter.com/
ASaintForLife/status
/215021348689424384/
photo/1

legod7 says...
11:45am Wed 20 Jun 12

Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
Buy a season ticket and find out

Daft Kerplunk says...
11:46am Wed 20 Jun 12

Major 'Like' for this.

Needs to be done quite frankly, we've got to be ambitious and this is the way to go. Income in the future will need to come from sales and extra seats, even if at reduced ticket prices is the way forward.

COYR build it and we will come

upwherewebelong says...
11:49am Wed 20 Jun 12

In my opinion the club should get on and put the planning application in for this. Although the thing that puzzles me is the shape of Itchen stand also changes and the Chapel end car park has disappeared. Is this an extension or a new stadium altogether ??? interesting times ahead

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:56am Wed 20 Jun 12

I hope we do build it, then we will finally have a stadium to rival Fratton Park.

rednwhite42 says...
11:58am Wed 20 Jun 12

legod7 wrote:
Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
Buy a season ticket and find out
Ho can th echo how you more than wha they have. This picture i first noticed lat night o twitter after my mate on facebook psted the pic . The echo show us what they have. Il be watching the DVD aftr re newing my season ticket.

rednwhite42 says...
12:02pm Wed 20 Jun 12

This expansion will happen if we can stay in the premier league , sellout st marys every game. End of day it costs to expand the ground so season tickets will ned to be high with a waiting list to be viable and be worth the extension. Mind you if we stayed in premier league then other fans wil turn out and come back.

Thesa1nt says...
12:19pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Great news, nothing set in stone yet but it shows the positive forward thinking approach. 5 years from now? You never know! Coyr

Tipee lightbulb says...
12:22pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Thanks Echo!! and if I could afford a season ticket I would.

arthur dalyrimple says...
12:23pm Wed 20 Jun 12

good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
12:31pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
Best thing that ever happened otherwise there wouldnt have been a St Markus or NC or back to back promotions.

Gossie. says...
12:35pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union.
When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.

sarfhamton says...
12:40pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Let's go for 45,000 seater and push on for Europe

ToastyTea says...
12:59pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Nice story copied off Saintsweb (given the Echo aren't season ticket holders themselves and wouldn't have been sent the dvd).

Velleity says...
1:02pm Wed 20 Jun 12

For the people above saying that it's a great idea, shouldn't we fill the current stadium first?

Spending money in the hope that more space will somehow fill itself would be a very odd decision. I'd rather there was a struggle for tickets every match than overspending.

You only have to look down the M27 to see the end result of overreaching in the pursuit of some future pie-in-the-sky hopes.

worried of n e hampshire says...
1:16pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Velleity wrote:
For the people above saying that it's a great idea, shouldn't we fill the current stadium first? Spending money in the hope that more space will somehow fill itself would be a very odd decision. I'd rather there was a struggle for tickets every match than overspending. You only have to look down the M27 to see the end result of overreaching in the pursuit of some future pie-in-the-sky hopes.
it was always a struggle to get tickets when we were in the prem, just glad i'm lucky to be able to afford a ST now

St Retford says...
1:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Velleity wrote:
For the people above saying that it's a great idea, shouldn't we fill the current stadium first? Spending money in the hope that more space will somehow fill itself would be a very odd decision. I'd rather there was a struggle for tickets every match than overspending. You only have to look down the M27 to see the end result of overreaching in the pursuit of some future pie-in-the-sky hopes.
Southampton is bang in the middle of the south coast where an awful lot of people a) have money and b) don't prefer rubbish sports like rugby league. As such, if Saints can offer attractive Premiership football then they will easily sell out 45,000 seats every other week.

Have I ever mentioned that I bloody love Nicola Cortese? He's said he can only imagine spending top wages on truly top class international players once we've got a stadium big enough to pay for them. This stadium is a big deal and will take us from mid Premiership to top top six.

St Retford says...
1:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12

ToastyTea wrote:
Nice story copied off Saintsweb (given the Echo aren't season ticket holders themselves and wouldn't have been sent the dvd).
The Echo isn't a season ticket holder because, well, it's a newspaper. There are plenty of season ticket holders that work for it, though.

St Retford says...
1:27pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I hope we do build it, then we will finally have a stadium to rival Fratton Park.
Heh. I see the trust has failed to get its act together (who saw THAT coming?) and they're more than likely going back to Chainrai. Now there's a club with a chairman who really wants to move things forward. Poor the Pompey. :(

Sussex Saint says...
1:29pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Larger and longer bars please....

arthur dalyrimple says...
1:38pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union.
When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!

willygetaway says...
1:40pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Great to see if this happens, dont you just luv being a SAINTS fan
but (always a but) i hope we dont over price seats for the common fans
AND ENGLAND ARE GONNA WIN THE EUROS, MY BET IS ALREADY ON COYR COE

St Retford says...
1:40pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?

arthur dalyrimple says...
1:42pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.

Jesus_02 says...
1:47pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?

Alicesdad says...
1:47pm Wed 20 Jun 12

It's a good talking point. But just take a moment.

It's a drawing. It has pretty colours, looks super cool and was included to inspire faith in the fans for the future investment in the club.

Remember it was part of a season ticket package freeby. Nothing more was said.

The Echo rightly points out there is nothing lodged with the council. This would be a major development and it would take years to put in place.

In addition we all know NC plays his cards close to his chest and is one crafty dude. I think he will enjoy this speculation as it is stirring up debate and interest which is exactly what he would want. It's all good publicity designed to attract supporters and get the building developers all excited and sharpened up ready with bids for the work.

Shrewd NC..Shrewd

I reckon he does have plans for ground expansion. But we all know we will find out when NC wants us to find out. That's OK with me, better to have a thought out reality than a failed pipe dream.

Jesus_02 says...
1:49pm Wed 20 Jun 12

I havent recieved one.. are they sending them out with the season tickets?

St Retford says...
1:51pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Yeah, says you.

How do you feel about Chainrai coming back? It must be a bit like seeing someone you really love get back with a lousy boyfriend who drinks too much, neglects her, blatantly doesn't care for her and just goes around spending all her money.

:(

Alicesdad says...
2:00pm Wed 20 Jun 12

... I wish we would stop making reference to another club down the road. And if we were to ignore those urchins from the M27 soakway who dare to add their poor spelling and grammar from time to time, then they would surely wither and perish.

We are Premier League, the elite, the creme de la creme, the aristocracy of south coast sport. These simple themes bear heavily upon their troubled souls and they know its going to be gruel and stale bread at half time for a long time to come.

It is most unseemly to spoil the sanctity of these threads with references to those whose place is "below stairs". What would Mr Hudson think?

mack chinnon says...
2:07pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Yeah, says you.

How do you feel about Chainrai coming back? It must be a bit like seeing someone you really love get back with a lousy boyfriend who drinks too much, neglects her, blatantly doesn't care for her and just goes around spending all her money.

:(
I believe Gossie.

Mush On The Beach says...
2:09pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I hope we do build it, then we will finally have a stadium to rival Fratton Park.
Have you been borrowing pills off Poopey Phylis again?

St Retford says...
2:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Who is Mr Hudson? Do you mean Rock Hudson? I think he would probably think "Man, I've got aids and I'm dead. This sucks. Still, it could be worse; I could be a Pompey fan."

arthur dalyrimple says...
2:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.

Mush On The Beach says...
2:11pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Talk of expansion was around when we first built St Marys.
No harm in getting plans approved for a future time, but I feel consolidation on the pitch is our key focus right now. It will take a few years to establish ourselves as a force again at this level and then expansion may be more viable, Mr Cortese is smart enough to know not to rush these things.

St Retford says...
2:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12

You know, I always think adding the word "fact" to the end of a sentence always gives it an air of unquestionable authority. I just don't know what to believe, now.

Daft Kerplunk says...
2:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12

For those saying we should fill ours first, partially agree but then building bigger shows ambition which helps attract and keep talent, and when we were in the Premier League it was difficult to get tickets. A bigger stadium could also allow greater spread of ticket prices thus enabling more to go to games so we'd fill it up. this is how they do in the US as well where you can get very cheap tickets right up to the very expensive.

Never shall his name be uttered didn't build the original SMS big enough for the same reasons as stated about selling enough tickets first then once we were doing well he said it would cost too much to build when adding an extra 10k seats originally would have been much less. Lesson: more ambition in the infrastructure would have made us even stronger.

I like Cortese's ambition and this is where we need to be. We have massive potential. Comparing spending on this to the bunch down the road is also futile as they spent more on players, which if they'd invested in a stadium development and youth policy, they may not be in the situation they are in now. Anyway, this has nothing to do with P*****y at all and everything to do with a team who is going places :)

COYR

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
2:16pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I hope we do build it, then we will finally have a stadium to rival Fratton Park.
Have you been borrowing pills off Poopey Phylis again?
:)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
2:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union.
When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
The doubling of capacity over the Dell by building SMS together with proper corporate facilities easily covered the mortgage repayments and more. The stadium was in effect self funding.

We went into Admin because Crouch and Wild spent 7m we didn't have and then failed to get the investment they promised and we lost in the playoffs. The returning Lowe tried slashing costs to the bone and did reduce borrowings but not by enough to satisfy Barclays who put the club into Admin over a 5m overdraft. SMS had nothing to do with it.

Linesman says...
2:25pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
If you had renewed a season ticket, you would have the DVD.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
2:33pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
You know, I always think adding the word "fact" to the end of a sentence always gives it an air of unquestionable authority. I just don't know what to believe, now.
It's all pie in the sky. Now if we had the worlds bestest bestest greatest ever fans that would be a different kettle of fish. FACT.

lowe esteem says...
2:57pm Wed 20 Jun 12

legod7 wrote:
Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
Buy a season ticket and find out
...or buy a car or whatever to find out if it goes eh?
Dangerous and foolish follower.

lowe esteem says...
3:01pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
Who is Mr Hudson? Do you mean Rock Hudson? I think he would probably think "Man, I've got aids and I'm dead. This sucks. Still, it could be worse; I could be a Pompey fan."
Stuck on the M27 the other day, but had to smile...the dirty van in front bore the epitaph..."smile, you could be following Pompey!"
This one's for you too, Alice's Dad!

St Retford says...
3:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Football gags don’t always work, mind. The head teacher at my daughter’s school got suspended a while back for unknown reasons. (Well, I say “unknown” – obviously I started a rumour that he’s a paedo because you’ve got to and everyone’s been taking this as gospel, but the ‘actual’ reasons are still unknown) and it was announced today that he’s returning to the school. “Bugger me,” I said to the mums at the school gates, “That’s the most surprising comeback since Jason Puncheon.”

Not a single one of them knew who he was. There was actual tumbleweed.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
3:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
Football gags don’t always work, mind. The head teacher at my daughter’s school got suspended a while back for unknown reasons. (Well, I say “unknown” – obviously I started a rumour that he’s a paedo because you’ve got to and everyone’s been taking this as gospel, but the ‘actual’ reasons are still unknown) and it was announced today that he’s returning to the school. “Bugger me,” I said to the mums at the school gates, “That’s the most surprising comeback since Jason Puncheon.”

Not a single one of them knew who he was. There was actual tumbleweed.
Is he from Portsmuff? If he is there could have been several reasons ranging from being a paedo to seriously overspending his budget or stealing the PTA monies. More than likely a combination of all three. The fact they are going to let him do it all again suggests this to be definitely the case. FACT.

St Retford says...
3:33pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Retford wrote: Football gags don’t always work, mind. The head teacher at my daughter’s school got suspended a while back for unknown reasons. (Well, I say “unknown” – obviously I started a rumour that he’s a paedo because you’ve got to and everyone’s been taking this as gospel, but the ‘actual’ reasons are still unknown) and it was announced today that he’s returning to the school. “Bugger me,” I said to the mums at the school gates, “That’s the most surprising comeback since Jason Puncheon.” Not a single one of them knew who he was. There was actual tumbleweed.
Is he from Portsmuff? If he is there could have been several reasons ranging from being a paedo to seriously overspending his budget or stealing the PTA monies. More than likely a combination of all three. The fact they are going to let him do it all again suggests this to be definitely the case. FACT.
Jesus, no he's not from Portsmouth. I don't mind her being taught by an 'alleged' (by me) kiddie-fiddler but I draw the line at that.

This was in Manchester about a mile from Old Trafford. Thinking about it, Paul Scholes might have made a better example of a footballing comeback...

barnjo says...
3:45pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!

Becky67 says...
4:01pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Saints' debts were paid in full. That is a fact. The full amount not pence in the pound http://www.guardian.
co.uk/football/david
-conn-inside-sport-b
log/2010/feb/10/port
smouth-cardiff-hmrc-
winding-up

G0Rf says...
4:15pm Wed 20 Jun 12

im all for it if it means they make bigger bars and the queue at the bar will be shorter.

takes too long to get half time refreshments...annoy
s me when people push in because there isnt a propper queue

dly397 says...
4:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was.

However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term.

They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for.

Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.

rednwhite42 says...
4:28pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Yeah, says you.

How do you feel about Chainrai coming back? It must be a bit like seeing someone you really love get back with a lousy boyfriend who drinks too much, neglects her, blatantly doesn't care for her and just goes around spending all her money.

:(
When Cortese helped Liebherr buy the club , part of the deal was to buy the stadium and own it. Im sure thats what happened. So we own our stadium and training ground which is also being redeveloped.

rednwhite42 says...
4:29pm Wed 20 Jun 12

ToastyTea wrote:
Nice story copied off Saintsweb (given the Echo aren't season ticket holders themselves and wouldn't have been sent the dvd).
I did not see it on the saints web.

rednwhite42 says...
4:31pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Jesus_02 wrote:
I havent recieved one.. are they sending them out with the season tickets?
Did you read the article. The club are sending out a DVD to the fans that have re newed there season tickets.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
4:35pm Wed 20 Jun 12

barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.

arthur dalyrimple says...
4:39pm Wed 20 Jun 12

dly397 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was.

However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term.

They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for.

Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.
Worzel club ,worzel city ,one trophy in your whole history , certainly not Real Madrid .

St Retford says...
4:49pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
dly397 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was. However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term. They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for. Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think? Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.
Worzel club ,worzel city ,one trophy in your whole history , certainly not Real Madrid .
I like how you've come on here with some half-baked 'slur' which has been completely blown out of the water and this is all you've got left. You need to up your game, mate. Fact.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
5:04pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
dly397 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was. However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term. They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for. Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think? Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.
Worzel club ,worzel city ,one trophy in your whole history , certainly not Real Madrid .
I like how you've come on here with some half-baked 'slur' which has been completely blown out of the water and this is all you've got left. You need to up your game, mate. Fact.
Skunt. Fact.

franiow says...
5:17pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Saints never had a CVA, so didn't pay pence in the pound. All debts were paid. The mortgage was paid up in the same way as if anyone paid their mortgage early....saves a fortune. I know because I settled mine...it's not illegal or dodgy. The club is owned outright by the Leihberrs, so they can sell it of course...but they're spending an awful lot of money for people intent on a sale.

arthur dalyrimple says...
5:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12

franiow wrote:
Saints never had a CVA, so didn't pay pence in the pound. All debts were paid. The mortgage was paid up in the same way as if anyone paid their mortgage early....saves a fortune. I know because I settled mine...it's not illegal or dodgy. The club is owned outright by the Leihberrs, so they can sell it of course...but they're spending an awful lot of money for people intent on a sale.
are you the scriptwriter for jackanory ?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
5:29pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
franiow wrote:
Saints never had a CVA, so didn't pay pence in the pound. All debts were paid. The mortgage was paid up in the same way as if anyone paid their mortgage early....saves a fortune. I know because I settled mine...it's not illegal or dodgy. The club is owned outright by the Leihberrs, so they can sell it of course...but they're spending an awful lot of money for people intent on a sale.
are you the scriptwriter for jackanory ?
Truth hurt? Don't like the fact we didn't rip off charities and local businesses? Or have a succession of criminals for owners? Or have a tiny fan base? Or the fact our stadium isn't falling down? I won't get into developing youth from Portsmouth and selling them on for millions, that would be like rubbing salt in the wounds.

SouthamptonLegend says...
5:37pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Velleity wrote:
For the people above saying that it's a great idea, shouldn't we fill the current stadium first?

Spending money in the hope that more space will somehow fill itself would be a very odd decision. I'd rather there was a struggle for tickets every match than overspending.

You only have to look down the M27 to see the end result of overreaching in the pursuit of some future pie-in-the-sky hopes.
You obviously don't remember it when we were last in the Prem!!

Pretty much sold out every game!!

warrens 76 says...
6:28pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
dly397 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was.

However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term.

They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for.

Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.
Worzel club ,worzel city ,one trophy in your whole history , certainly not Real Madrid .
Yes but not an inbred amongst us...now give a high six...

WobblyCat says...
6:44pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
You sure your surname isn't brain? ML cleared the clubs debts when he took over and not at 2p in the pound, google it. Whilst you're at it google the effects of inbreeding.

slugger says...
6:44pm Wed 20 Jun 12

poor old skunts ......... i can smell their jealosy ....... always brings a grin to my face !

Baddesley Bill says...
6:59pm Wed 20 Jun 12

It would appear that the skunts have been led on yet another wild goose chase...this time by their own skunters bid. The truth hurts and they don't like it one little skunting bit....happy days! COYR :O)

long memory says...
7:33pm Wed 20 Jun 12

NC should try and get planning to build a new stadium near Junc 5 of the M27,where it should have always been.Better access for home and away fans,far less congestion,and perfect links to the railway,motorway,and airport,instead of being stuck down in a very built up residential area,plus expansion of a stadium never being an issue,you know it makes sense.

pitbull says...
7:35pm Wed 20 Jun 12

I'm 99% sure that the original planning permission for the Stadium included the option to extend it at a later date if needed.
If you look at our Wembley attendances we would quite easily fill a 45000 stadium.

slugger says...
7:59pm Wed 20 Jun 12

long memory wrote:
NC should try and get planning to build a new stadium near Junc 5 of the M27,where it should have always been.Better access for home and away fans,far less congestion,and perfect links to the railway,motorway,and airport,instead of being stuck down in a very built up residential area,plus expansion of a stadium never being an issue,you know it makes sense.
but i can't walk to stoneham ...... st marys is not excactly "very residential" , more like "very commercial" to me .

arthur dalyrimple says...
8:03pm Wed 20 Jun 12

WobblyCat wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
You sure your surname isn't brain? ML cleared the clubs debts when he took over and not at 2p in the pound, google it. Whilst you're at it google the effects of inbreeding.
up the arsenal !!!

slugger says...
8:16pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
You sure your surname isn't brain? ML cleared the clubs debts when he took over and not at 2p in the pound, google it. Whilst you're at it google the effects of inbreeding.
up the arsenal !!!
you'd like that wouldn't you .......... i suggest you try the argus site ...... ooops , forgot , they're a league above the skunts ..... try the crawley site !

Thorshammer says...
9:57pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
You sure your surname isn't brain? ML cleared the clubs debts when he took over and not at 2p in the pound, google it. Whilst you're at it google the effects of inbreeding.
up the arsenal !!!
Dear Skunt, if the opportunity arises i would love to put the Martian Reproductive Organ that dominates your City straight up yours, if there was room i could also delight you with the Lipstick Building, if ever 2 edifices summed up the inhabitants of a small island these monstrosities do.
Enjoy Div 1, you will find the Cherries to be delightful hosts.

St Retford says...
10:01pm Wed 20 Jun 12

long memory wrote:
NC should try and get planning to build a new stadium near Junc 5 of the M27,where it should have always been.Better access for home and away fans,far less congestion,and perfect links to the railway,motorway,and airport,instead of being stuck down in a very built up residential area,plus expansion of a stadium never being an issue,you know it makes sense.
It doesn't make sense. I hate 'out of town' stadia where everyone has to drive to. Ideally, you want your ground to be at the end of a leisurely five-pub crawl where people don't have to worry about bourgoise concepts like 'parking'.

barnjo says...
10:04pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.

St Graz says...
10:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12

barnjo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.
Its 'debt'

randre says...
10:14pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Rubbish, why should he present the evidence to you. Actually I remember reading in the official papers drawn up by mark fry that the stadium debt was to be cleared by Markus.

sk8srsinking says...
10:16pm Wed 20 Jun 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
dly397 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
St Retford wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Gossie. wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote: good idea ,shame they defaulted and did,nt pay for the original stadium though.
That's not quite true is it. Prior to Saints going into Administration they never defaulted on any payments to the Mortgage Company which was Norwich Union. When Markus came in and bought the Stadium, Norwich Union accepted a one off payment proposal that Markus put forward via the Administrator. The agreed amount of money was paid back as full and final settlement. As such Saints did pay for the Stadium, which is now wholely owned by the club.
Rubbish , prove what you have said!!!!
Why?
Because it,s pure pony that,s why.
Isnt it normally the accuser that has to prove his case?
adminastration is settled at pence in the pound ,the stadium was never payed for in full ,fact.
Arthur - that's not what you said in your original post. Originally you said the stadium hadn't paid for, when in fact it was.

However, it was at a level lower than Norwich Union would have got if the loan had gone to term.

They agreed to settle at that figure and therefore the stadium has been paid for.

Trying to preach to us is a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Now go away and find a way to pay those charities whose money disappeared into the abyss, there's a good chap.
Worzel club ,worzel city ,one trophy in your whole history , certainly not Real Madrid .
Obviously coming from skuntsville ur not the brightest spark but even u should know that 1+1=2 (1 fa cup + 1 football league trophy) try using ur fingers u've got 6 on each hand!!!

barnjo says...
10:18pm Wed 20 Jun 12

St Graz wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.
Its 'debt'
Apologies I didn't think it looked right!

St Graz says...
10:19pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Awful lot of jealousy on this thread - good! Possible future plans for St Marys' look excellent and I agree with those who think it would come about after sustainability and stablity in the Prem. Off topic where is Red Army1? I'm worried of SW Hampshire! I'll have bash myself but it'll be a pi55 poor pale imitation. Ahem....WE DEMAND THE STADIUM (if that's alright with you Mr Cortese, sir) Do I get the gig???

Velleity says...
10:20pm Wed 20 Jun 12

barnjo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.
Crikey, isn't there some bad feeling on here from our Portsmouth friends?

I've said this before; wouldn't your time be better spent offering your help to try to get your Supporter's Trust bid in? I'm sure they would (genuinely) appreciate any help they can get.

Spending your time on here while your club lurches towards bankruptcy seems an odd way of supporting them, that's all...

Solent Lass says...
10:25pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Hope it includes a museum - so many historical Saints items are getting lost.

hedge end bob says...
10:38pm Wed 20 Jun 12

The SKUNTS are here,
The Skunts are there,
The fcuking Skunts are everywhere,
There down rat holes,
There down the pipes,
The poor little Skunts are covered in sh!te,
It's not their fault that they dont know,
The difference between sh!te and snow,
They think their ground is something grand,
Pity it was'nt built on quicksand,
It would not take long to swallow that sh!te,
Then the world would be rid of the parasite,
arthur dalyrimple is filled with hate,
He cant even get his facts straight,
Were on the up,
There on the down,
Its really not worth listening to the clown.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:45pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Solent Lass wrote:
Hope it includes a museum - so many historical Saints items are getting lost.
There's a museum for sale in Portsmouth.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:51pm Wed 20 Jun 12

hedge end bob wrote:
The SKUNTS are here,
The Skunts are there,
The fcuking Skunts are everywhere,
There down rat holes,
There down the pipes,
The poor little Skunts are covered in sh!te,
It's not their fault that they dont know,
The difference between sh!te and snow,
They think their ground is something grand,
Pity it was'nt built on quicksand,
It would not take long to swallow that sh!te,
Then the world would be rid of the parasite,
arthur dalyrimple is filled with hate,
He cant even get his facts straight,
Were on the up,
There on the down,
Its really not worth listening to the clown.
Top poeming!

barnjo says...
10:58pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Velleity wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.
Crikey, isn't there some bad feeling on here from our Portsmouth friends?

I've said this before; wouldn't your time be better spent offering your help to try to get your Supporter's Trust bid in? I'm sure they would (genuinely) appreciate any help they can get.

Spending your time on here while your club lurches towards bankruptcy seems an odd way of supporting them, that's all...
Just because I'm not talking up Saints I must be a Pompey fan! For your info I'm not, I actually want Saints to do well I'm sure they will fill a 40,000 seater stadium if they stay in the premiership for a couple of years, I just can't believe the blinkered view of the fans that they think the club is run perfectly and you will be in Europe soon.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12

barnjo wrote:
Velleity wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
barnjo wrote:
Saints fans need to get realistic, you did well last year and even though I'm not a fan I want them to do well. You got relegated from the premiership in 2005 with at least 12 internationals in the squad with the likes of, lundekvam, crouch, phillips, delap, niemi, le saux and the manager that everyone wanted as England manager! Staying up for the first couple of seasons would be a great achievement, I do hope they do because it's great for the city. Also too an earlier comment about the club of course Saints are still in dept 99% of football clubs are Mr liebherr didn't just hand over 30 million as a present his family will want that back, plus don't think Cortese is good for the club he is trying to get as much money out of the club as he can before he sells, fact!
Money out of the club you say? But you also said put 30m in - which has been converted to equity so is no longer a debt. Fact. Developing Staplewood at a cost of 15m. Fact.

Which is it to be? Can't be both can it? And that's a fact.
Yeah Cortese is taking money out of the club he hasn't put 1 pound in he isn't Liebherr is he. If you know so much then you must be a friend or Cortese himself! Ask him about his own contract and all the little perks that go with it that he wrote himself. 15m to develop stablewood where have you got that figure from are they building it out of gold! If it has cost that much it will be mortgaged not just paid out of Liebherr families pocket. And like my previous comment Saints are still in dept the same as every other football club they just have secure dept keeping up with payments and they don't owe the tax man. Plus how do you think players are bought cash in a briefcase! they will owe money for Jay Rod over the next few months or years.
Crikey, isn't there some bad feeling on here from our Portsmouth friends?

I've said this before; wouldn't your time be better spent offering your help to try to get your Supporter's Trust bid in? I'm sure they would (genuinely) appreciate any help they can get.

Spending your time on here while your club lurches towards bankruptcy seems an odd way of supporting them, that's all...
Just because I'm not talking up Saints I must be a Pompey fan! For your info I'm not, I actually want Saints to do well I'm sure they will fill a 40,000 seater stadium if they stay in the premiership for a couple of years, I just can't believe the blinkered view of the fans that they think the club is run perfectly and you will be in Europe soon.
It is and we will.

Alty Saint says...
11:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12

rednwhite42 wrote:
legod7 wrote:
Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
Buy a season ticket and find out
Ho can th echo how you more than wha they have. This picture i first noticed lat night o twitter after my mate on facebook psted the pic . The echo show us what they have. Il be watching the DVD aftr re newing my season ticket.
Speak English please!

Alty Saint says...
11:34pm Wed 20 Jun 12

This is Southampton, If they build it the fans will come because we have ambition and because the Saints are coming; this is our time!!!!!!!!!!COYR!!

upwherewebelong says...
11:57am Thu 21 Jun 12

just another thought if this artist impression is St Marys it doesn't show the Ted Bates Statue not that it should but does make me wonder if it isn't an entirely new ground although you can see elements of St Marys in it.

BracknellSaint says...
12:59pm Thu 21 Jun 12

Loving all the gas coming from the skunts on here!
Haven't got a clue, one and all..
Two league titles before pretty much anyone on this site was born, and a dodgy bought FA Cup a few years back? Handful of years in the topflight while we enjoyed 27 years there in a row? Down at their natural level while we are back where we belong in the premier?
And they talk about history? Such a funny bunch, that six fingered lot...

long memory says...
1:37pm Thu 21 Jun 12

BracknellSaint wrote:
Loving all the gas coming from the skunts on here!
Haven't got a clue, one and all..
Two league titles before pretty much anyone on this site was born, and a dodgy bought FA Cup a few years back? Handful of years in the topflight while we enjoyed 27 years there in a row? Down at their natural level while we are back where we belong in the premier?
And they talk about history? Such a funny bunch, that six fingered lot...
And the two league titles and the 1939 fa cup win happened because most of the clubs young footballers from around the country were doing national service, and were based at Portsmouth because of the build up of the navy,so the majority of the pompey side were playing by default. Pompey won those awards purely by the fact they had some of the best footballing talent based there at the time.
The truth of the matter is,had there not been a 2nd world war,pompey would have won nothing, other than a bought cup a few years ago against the mighty Cardiff.

SO50 Saint says...
2:24pm Thu 21 Jun 12

Looking forward to the 27th when I get paid so I can renew and get this DVD will make some good viewing in anticipation for the new season

BracknellSaint says...
2:24pm Thu 21 Jun 12

long memory wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Loving all the gas coming from the skunts on here!
Haven't got a clue, one and all..
Two league titles before pretty much anyone on this site was born, and a dodgy bought FA Cup a few years back? Handful of years in the topflight while we enjoyed 27 years there in a row? Down at their natural level while we are back where we belong in the premier?
And they talk about history? Such a funny bunch, that six fingered lot...
And the two league titles and the 1939 fa cup win happened because most of the clubs young footballers from around the country were doing national service, and were based at Portsmouth because of the build up of the navy,so the majority of the pompey side were playing by default. Pompey won those awards purely by the fact they had some of the best footballing talent based there at the time.
The truth of the matter is,had there not been a 2nd world war,pompey would have won nothing, other than a bought cup a few years ago against the mighty Cardiff.
With you on that one Long Memory!
It seems fairly obvious, but somehow the Skunts don't get it?
It seems there are a few of them ( a few of the few? ) on here, so would they like to explain? Short,simple sentences with small words is OK ( Just in case the thought of having to verbalise clearly made them nervous)

Solent Lass says...
2:27pm Thu 21 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Solent Lass wrote:
Hope it includes a museum - so many historical Saints items are getting lost.
There's a museum for sale in Portsmouth.
Portsmouth would not be interested in the original Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Saints I possess which should be held for posterity.

SO50 Saint says...
2:32pm Thu 21 Jun 12

Whatever happened to that stadium to be build in the Harbour down poopey? Wasn't it supposed to be some sort of super dooper stadium. I do remember one picture that resembled a toilet bowl hilarious that.

AdamSFC says...
3:08pm Thu 21 Jun 12

I'm now seeing this story everywhere and it's pretty misleading. Since when were things that by their own admission 'probably aren't going to happen' considered important news? It wasn't that long ago that I think the club officially stated that they had no plans to expand the stadium as it would cost as much as the initial cost to build the whole thing. Nevertheless it would be great if they did, not looking forward to struggling for tickets next season due to all the part timers suddenly taking an interest.

sarfhamton says...
6:26pm Thu 21 Jun 12

Poor Echo, just gets its Saints news from Twitter and DVDs these days.

S Pance says...
6:30pm Thu 21 Jun 12

This is NOT a picture of St Marys..it is a picture of a proposed new stadium to be built on the land Saints own.

Plans have not yet be submitted, but bear in mind that when they do it will be EASTLEIGH planning office that deal with it, thus it won't show up in a search of the Southampton Council planning website..

arthur dalyrimple says...
10:50am Fri 22 Jun 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
The SKUNTS are here,
The Skunts are there,
The fcuking Skunts are everywhere,
There down rat holes,
There down the pipes,
The poor little Skunts are covered in sh!te,
It's not their fault that they dont know,
The difference between sh!te and snow,
They think their ground is something grand,
Pity it was'nt built on quicksand,
It would not take long to swallow that sh!te,
Then the world would be rid of the parasite,
arthur dalyrimple is filled with hate,
He cant even get his facts straight,
Were on the up,
There on the down,
Its really not worth listening to the clown.
Top poeming!
Spelt poem when i went to school , William Wordsworth eat your hear out ha ha , at least the bookies don,t share your small minded optomism , 7500 - 1 for the title , get your five bob on , come on you Gunna.s .

ohmywell says...
1:25pm Fri 22 Jun 12

This time next year Championship and playing Portsmouth. LOL so much talk no money no prem players NO CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO50 Saint says...
3:27pm Fri 22 Jun 12

Right cause Portsmouth are still gonna have a club in 12 months time thats a far bigger LOL. Jealousy is such a horrible thing Skunt enjoy Hartlepool it's a truly wonderful place we will just enjoy testing ourselves against some of the best teams in the world and if it doesn't work out then maybe it will be Championship next year but I think there's far more chance of us playing Premiership football year after next then you lot in the Championship :)

Fatty x Ford Worker says...
7:06pm Fri 22 Jun 12

Keep on buying them Seoson Tickets you Muppets more bums on seats will mean we will expand.

rednwhite42 says...
10:31pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Alty Saint wrote:
rednwhite42 wrote:
legod7 wrote:
Tipee lightbulb wrote:
Might be nice if the echo could actually show us what it looks like!
Buy a season ticket and find out
Ho can th echo how you more than wha they have. This picture i first noticed lat night o twitter after my mate on facebook psted the pic . The echo show us what they have. Il be watching the DVD aftr re newing my season ticket.
Speak English please!
AltySaint , Hows this , the echo can only show what it has. This picture i first saw on facebook when my mate posted it on there from twitter. This is the only pic. So how can the echo show more , plus get a season ticket. There english spoken.

rednwhite42 says...
10:38pm Sat 23 Jun 12

S Pance wrote:
This is NOT a picture of St Marys..it is a picture of a proposed new stadium to be built on the land Saints own.

Plans have not yet be submitted, but bear in mind that when they do it will be EASTLEIGH planning office that deal with it, thus it won't show up in a search of the Southampton Council planning website..
This is St.Marys stadium. This pic shows the stadium after it has been expanded. So you think that they will knock down curent ground to build new one. They will build upper tiers along 3 of the stands. so yes this is a pic of st marys and yes i have watched the dvd today after my season ticket arrived.

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