Teen sentenced to ten years for slashing stranger's face (From Daily Echo)

downfader wrote:
And while he's on prison get him working so he can pay back society for his sick behaviour.

townieboy wrote:
Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Over the Edge wrote:

townieboy wrote: Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Why 7 years?

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

townieboy wrote:
Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Dasal wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

townieboy wrote: Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Why 7 years?

Time off for "good behaviour" maybe..............
Wrong, but is very likely.

Here, There wrote:
Slack is a career criminal despite being a teenager,this sentance is not enough of a deterrant for him or his ilk, roll out the dysfunctional childhood card, few didn't/don't have a dysfunctional upbringing but few go on to commit the volume of crimes slack has , sincerely hope he is victim of a similar act whilst inside

Over the Edge wrote:

Dasal wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

townieboy wrote: Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Why 7 years?

Time off for "good behaviour" maybe..............
Wrong, but is very likely.

He will only serve 5 years behind the door. My last comment explains the sentencing policy, any sentence apart life or intermittent is automatically halved and this has been the case for years.

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote: It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

Stillness wrote:
The guy is obviously a nutcase and prison will not be a deterrent to him. Castrate him whilst he is in there and it may save someone in the future. I bet Hythe knight is gutted that he is not an obvious immigrant.

UKIPsouthampton wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote: It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

Are they? Can he not have a tough time in prison and on release be a usual member of society.

mansak_hunt wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Dasal wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

townieboy wrote: Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Why 7 years?

Time off for "good behaviour" maybe..............
Wrong, but is very likely.

He will only serve 5 years behind the door. My last comment explains the sentencing policy, any sentence apart life or intermittent is automatically halved and this has been the case for years.

WRONG if your sentence is 10 years or over YOU MUST SERVE 2 THIRDS before being considered for parole.
But well done for sounding so certain.

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote: It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

Are they? Can he not have a tough time in prison and on release be a usual member of society.

Doesn't tend to happen, no. The amount of re-offending that goes on demonstrates this.

hythe knights wrote:

Stillness wrote:
The guy is obviously a nutcase and prison will not be a deterrent to him. Castrate him whilst he is in there and it may save someone in the future. I bet Hythe knight is gutted that he is not an obvious immigrant.

We have plenty of low life,s here to deal with already without importing more. Glad he got 10 years for this.

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

cowley wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

nipper have you got mental health issues?

Shoong wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Chav scum.

karl rodgie of warren wrote:

cowley wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

nipper have you got mental health issues?

no i have not got mental health issues he is one of my mate s wot did was hash so was the 10 yrs they give him

karl rodgie of warren wrote:

cowley wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

nipper have you got mental health issues?

no i have not got mental health issues he is one of my mate s wot did was hash so was the 10 yrs they give him

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

karl rodgie of warren wrote:

cowley wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

nipper have you got mental health issues?

no i have not got mental health issues he is one of my mate s wot did was hash so was the 10 yrs they give him

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

bigfella777 wrote:
The worst thing about this waste of skin is that when he does get out he will be unemployable forever,his name will forever be scum and society will have to pay benefits to him.
People like him and the other numpty supporting him on here are the lowest form of life in this country.

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

Over the Edge wrote:

Dasal wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

townieboy wrote: Yeah great justice. Poor fella has permanet damage to his face for life and the scum has a 7 year holiday. Excellent

Why 7 years?

Time off for "good behaviour" maybe..............
Wrong, but is very likely.

He will only serve 5 years behind the door. My last comment explains the sentencing policy, any sentence apart life or intermittent is automatically halved and this has been the case for years.

Here, There wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Many can not wait for his release so that a more severe and appropriate sentance may be placed on him which will be far more than the 4x4 which failed to end his existance, enablers like you will get similar if you continue to run and empathise with such Pond Life, by any means necessary these scum MUST be run out of our town.

cantthinkofone wrote:
lol. The US censoring software this site uses cracks me up. L U S T is the word automatically starred out above. How on earth that gets classed as a swear word by anyone is beyond me. :-D

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

ALaxton wrote:

Here, There wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Many can not wait for his release so that a more severe and appropriate sentance may be placed on him which will be far more than the 4x4 which failed to end his existance, enablers like you will get similar if you continue to run and empathise with such Pond Life, by any means necessary these scum MUST be run out of our town.

Good too see all the usual keyboard warriors are out in force. Making pathetic empty threats, and also seeing alot of threats of violence, surely this will make you as bad as him??? If this 19 year old boy interests you all so much, maybe its time you all got lifes!! What he done too the boy's face is disgusting, and I would not wish this upon my worst enemy. Slack has been sentenced and I'm sure the 'victim' will be very well compensated aswell as happy with the outcome of Slacks sentence. Making empty threats over a chat forum is ridiculously childish and is gonna help neither partys involved. Had you known the victim or offender would your comments be the same?? And as for Slacks 'parents' what sort of mother kicks out her 11 year old son onto the streets too fend for himself, too then do the same with her next child not so many years later, SICK springs too mind. As sad as it is too say 10 years imprisonment is a stable home and life for someone like Slack. As for the '4x4 that failed too end his existence' was that something you yourself done? Or are getting confused with different 'SCUM'????

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

SinnerSaint wrote:

ALaxton wrote:

Here, There wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Many can not wait for his release so that a more severe and appropriate sentance may be placed on him which will be far more than the 4x4 which failed to end his existance, enablers like you will get similar if you continue to run and empathise with such Pond Life, by any means necessary these scum MUST be run out of our town.

Good too see all the usual keyboard warriors are out in force. Making pathetic empty threats, and also seeing alot of threats of violence, surely this will make you as bad as him??? If this 19 year old boy interests you all so much, maybe its time you all got lifes!! What he done too the boy's face is disgusting, and I would not wish this upon my worst enemy. Slack has been sentenced and I'm sure the 'victim' will be very well compensated aswell as happy with the outcome of Slacks sentence. Making empty threats over a chat forum is ridiculously childish and is gonna help neither partys involved. Had you known the victim or offender would your comments be the same?? And as for Slacks 'parents' what sort of mother kicks out her 11 year old son onto the streets too fend for himself, too then do the same with her next child not so many years later, SICK springs too mind. As sad as it is too say 10 years imprisonment is a stable home and life for someone like Slack. As for the '4x4 that failed too end his existence' was that something you yourself done? Or are getting confused with different 'SCUM'????

19 year boy? So the misery of the householders who return home to find their homes trashed and violated, the people who've been assaulted and Michael, maimed and mentally scarred, and his parents who have to see him like this every day DON'T MEAN ANYTHING?

If Slack meets some misfortune, inside or outside of prison, it is his own doing. HE is the scum - not people who think he is an animal and should be taken out of the gene pool.

And you, well you're either a relative or just an apologist for filth. Either way, you make me sick.

ALaxton wrote:

SinnerSaint wrote:

ALaxton wrote:

Here, There wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Many can not wait for his release so that a more severe and appropriate sentance may be placed on him which will be far more than the 4x4 which failed to end his existance, enablers like you will get similar if you continue to run and empathise with such Pond Life, by any means necessary these scum MUST be run out of our town.

Good too see all the usual keyboard warriors are out in force. Making pathetic empty threats, and also seeing alot of threats of violence, surely this will make you as bad as him??? If this 19 year old boy interests you all so much, maybe its time you all got lifes!! What he done too the boy's face is disgusting, and I would not wish this upon my worst enemy. Slack has been sentenced and I'm sure the 'victim' will be very well compensated aswell as happy with the outcome of Slacks sentence. Making empty threats over a chat forum is ridiculously childish and is gonna help neither partys involved. Had you known the victim or offender would your comments be the same?? And as for Slacks 'parents' what sort of mother kicks out her 11 year old son onto the streets too fend for himself, too then do the same with her next child not so many years later, SICK springs too mind. As sad as it is too say 10 years imprisonment is a stable home and life for someone like Slack. As for the '4x4 that failed too end his existence' was that something you yourself done? Or are getting confused with different 'SCUM'????

19 year boy? So the misery of the householders who return home to find their homes trashed and violated, the people who've been assaulted and Michael, maimed and mentally scarred, and his parents who have to see him like this every day DON'T MEAN ANYTHING?

If Slack meets some misfortune, inside or outside of prison, it is his own doing. HE is the scum - not people who think he is an animal and should be taken out of the gene pool.

And you, well you're either a relative or just an apologist for filth. Either way, you make me sick.

Yes 19 year old boy!!! As that is what he is.. I'm not a relative no. As you have read he has no relatives. Who is talking about him robbing people, I thought this was all about a slashing, do correct me if I'm wrong tho. Or isit that you have a personal grudge against Slack. I make u sick??? I'm not hiding behind a username on a chat forum. GROW UP!!! Thsi is for voicing opinions which is what I have done. If u dont like my opinion or it makes u 'sick' dont read it!! Good day :)

Inform Al wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

As a teenager I was probably the best fighter in the deprived bit of London that I was dragged up in, however on reaching age 18 I was very careful not to punch too hard as hanging was still on the books in those days. The deterrent worked for me, and I have no doubt it would work even on the brain dead drug fuddled youths that seem to be so prolific these days. And no, I'm not proud of my teenage years and suspect I would be donated ADHD if I was a teenager today. Good parenting however saved the day in my case.

cantthinkofone wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

As a teenager I was probably the best fighter in the deprived bit of London that I was dragged up in, however on reaching age 18 I was very careful not to punch too hard as hanging was still on the books in those days. The deterrent worked for me, and I have no doubt it would work even on the brain dead drug fuddled youths that seem to be so prolific these days. And no, I'm not proud of my teenage years and suspect I would be donated ADHD if I was a teenager today. Good parenting however saved the day in my case.

In the USA, every year since 1995, the murder rate in death penalty states has been at least 25% higher than in non-death penalty states. Many years it's been 35-45% higher.

This does rather suggest that the principle of deterrence is a bit flawed...

ALaxton wrote:

ALaxton wrote:

SinnerSaint wrote:

ALaxton wrote:

Here, There wrote:

karl rodgie of warren wrote:
all i got to say is leave the boy alone he got ten yrs for it weeman u be out soon mate dont worry about wot this lot got to say 3 weeman

Many can not wait for his release so that a more severe and appropriate sentance may be placed on him which will be far more than the 4x4 which failed to end his existance, enablers like you will get similar if you continue to run and empathise with such Pond Life, by any means necessary these scum MUST be run out of our town.

Good too see all the usual keyboard warriors are out in force. Making pathetic empty threats, and also seeing alot of threats of violence, surely this will make you as bad as him??? If this 19 year old boy interests you all so much, maybe its time you all got lifes!! What he done too the boy's face is disgusting, and I would not wish this upon my worst enemy. Slack has been sentenced and I'm sure the 'victim' will be very well compensated aswell as happy with the outcome of Slacks sentence. Making empty threats over a chat forum is ridiculously childish and is gonna help neither partys involved. Had you known the victim or offender would your comments be the same?? And as for Slacks 'parents' what sort of mother kicks out her 11 year old son onto the streets too fend for himself, too then do the same with her next child not so many years later, SICK springs too mind. As sad as it is too say 10 years imprisonment is a stable home and life for someone like Slack. As for the '4x4 that failed too end his existence' was that something you yourself done? Or are getting confused with different 'SCUM'????

19 year boy? So the misery of the householders who return home to find their homes trashed and violated, the people who've been assaulted and Michael, maimed and mentally scarred, and his parents who have to see him like this every day DON'T MEAN ANYTHING?

If Slack meets some misfortune, inside or outside of prison, it is his own doing. HE is the scum - not people who think he is an animal and should be taken out of the gene pool.

And you, well you're either a relative or just an apologist for filth. Either way, you make me sick.

Yes 19 year old boy!!! As that is what he is.. I'm not a relative no. As you have read he has no relatives. Who is talking about him robbing people, I thought this was all about a slashing, do correct me if I'm wrong tho. Or isit that you have a personal grudge against Slack. I make u sick??? I'm not hiding behind a username on a chat forum. GROW UP!!! Thsi is for voicing opinions which is what I have done. If u dont like my opinion or it makes u 'sick' dont read it!! Good day :)

I think you should go back and read my original post properly as I'm clearly not showing sympathy for Slack, so why u felt the need too put in that his victims mean nothing I don not no. Like I said personal grudge maybe????

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

Mick the Saint wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
The worst thing about this waste of skin is that when he does get out he will be unemployable forever,his name will forever be scum and society will have to pay benefits to him.
People like him and the other numpty supporting him on here are the lowest form of life in this country.

Hear Hear

Inform Al wrote:

cantthinkofone wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

As a teenager I was probably the best fighter in the deprived bit of London that I was dragged up in, however on reaching age 18 I was very careful not to punch too hard as hanging was still on the books in those days. The deterrent worked for me, and I have no doubt it would work even on the brain dead drug fuddled youths that seem to be so prolific these days. And no, I'm not proud of my teenage years and suspect I would be donated ADHD if I was a teenager today. Good parenting however saved the day in my case.

In the USA, every year since 1995, the murder rate in death penalty states has been at least 25% higher than in non-death penalty states. Many years it's been 35-45% higher.

This does rather suggest that the principle of deterrence is a bit flawed...

So why then has the horrendous increase in unlawful killings occured in this country since 1965. Part of the reason for flawed statistics in the states where they have no death sentence is the willingness of the DAs to accept pleas of guilty to manslaughter as the sentence is usually not that different. The same happened here when capital punishmernt was taken off of the books and was the main reasom for the promised life time jail for murder being forgotten. The only way to beat the statistic cheats in power is to compare the rates for unlawful killings, it's a bit of an eye opener.

yellowcard wrote:
he couldn't of got a 5 year extended license as that would exceed the maximum sentence for gbh which is 14 years

AdamSFC wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

opera phantom wrote:

Georgem wrote:

UKIPsouthampton wrote:
It's a good sentence but is the time spent in Prison going to be tough enough? Will he become a usual member of society when he is released? Is the time spent in Prison going to be wasted?

Which do you want? That the prison time will be tough on him, or that he will integrate well into society upon release? Because those are pretty much two contradictory things.

If he cant/wont behave keep him locked for ever. That means the public will be safe.

Lock ALL criminals up forever? Then everyone will complain about the "holiday camp paid for by us taxpayers". So presumably the only logical thing to do is execute anyone the second they step out of line.

Awesome. Welcome to the future.

You are just being ridiculous now.
Apart from the few that you will never do anything with, make the deterrent work
That principle certainly worked in the army in the 50's The army prisons in Colchester and Shepton Mallet had fearsome reputations. That in it's self was deterrent enough..Out of the small number of so called tough guys that ended up there only about 2% went back for a second helping.

The deterrent principle clearly doesn't work on violent crime. Do you really think this kid said to himself "I know, I think I'll get a knife and go slash some random stranger's face, that'll be good for a laugh?"

No. It was an irrational, impulsive attack, as a vast number of violent crimes are. If you're irrational enough to slash someone's face like this, you're not thinking, you're not weighing up the likelihood of getting caught, and of whether the consequences are worth it or not. Of course they're not. Why would someone say "some time in prison, yeh I can handle that in return for slashing some guy's face?"

I'm not saying don't lock these people up. But let's not pretend it's going to deter violent criminals that commit their crimes in a blind rage, or a fit of drunkenness or whatever.

I have scrolled through the majority of the comments on this story and the only sensible ones are written by you. Good job.

I don't think it is ever possible to truly eradicate this sort of behaviour from any human society, and of course these people should be removed from wider society when they behave like this, but the only way to alleviate it at all in the long term is to change the system and culture which breeds these abhorrent people. Which, as much as the kneejerkers would hate to admit, IS down to a person's environment, unless you are born to do this sort oif thing (which isn't the case) then you are a product of your environment. And that is what needs to be improved, I would personally much rather live in a society which tried to prevent this from happening in the first place from the beginning than one which started "castrating" people when it did (as someone delightfully suggested earlier). It's very easy for people to try and blame the Social Services etc but we only hear about people like this for whom they obviously couldn't do enough. What about the 1000s of people have been stopped going down these sorts of paths by their efforts?

As Georgem rightly pointed out, there is not a point in at which people will suddenly decide not to commit a crime like this, "Oh I'll get 25 years for going out and slashing someone's face?? I'll stay in then, back when it was 10 years I was well up for it", you have to try and change people inherently, nobody in history no matter how horrible the prisons were was ever walking around thinking "God I really want to be a psychopath but I don't fancy prison".

Inform Al wrote:
Can't agree with the WW11 bit, I was born towards the end of that war and too many of my friends had fathers who never returned, they were called latch door kids because their mothers left the front door key hanging on string behind the letter box so they could get indoors after school when mum was still at work. One such lad retired some years ago as a very senior police officer. The only friends that I am aware of going wrong both had both parents at home and both did not reoffend. The rot started after 1965, before that law and order was firmly established to the extent that a guy who tried to rob a post office with a water pistol was front page news in the nationals, a couple of years ago a bus driver who murdered a pedestrian by deliberately running him over didn't even make the local paper. It is a sad fact the the loosening of boundaries is wholly responsible for the terrible state of society today.