Council’s plan to widen age range at retirement complex

Daily Echo: Ventnor Court retirement complex. Ventnor Court retirement complex.

A HOUSING complex for retired residents is set to open its doors to younger crowd in a bid to save it from closure.

Southampton City Council has been struggling to find older people to move into their supported housing complex at Ventnor Court.

Council bosses are expected to agree to lowering the minimum age limit to 55 in an effort to fill up the empty spaces while, at the same time, deal with an ever growing council waiting list.

Currently some 14,500 people are waiting for homes in the city so the authority hopes by lowering the age range at Ventnor Court some spare capacity can be used.

The council had considered selling the 122-apartment complex but Cabinet member for housing, Warwick Payne, said he wanted to see 100 per cent occupancy at the estate instead.

“You have to make a decision one way or another to either pull out of that scheme or to change it,” he said. “Anything below 100 per cent occupancy isn’t enough. If a place is available to let it should be occupied.”

However, the decision has not been welcomed by all existing residents.

Alan Kebbell , 68, said he feared the move would bring problems not just with the new tenants but with the infrastructure too.

“There would be antisocial behaviour, noise, we just don’t need it,” he said. “When I was 55 I still played my music loud. People aged 55 will be working too and they will have their cars.

“The car park is always full with council workers, care workers. If we get people who are 55 and their families the car park will not be big enough.”

Meetings were held at the start of last year with the residents to find a way of getting more people into the complex.

Initially proposals to get tenants from the age of 50 upwards before a compromise was found with new tenants aged 55 to 60.

The decision is due to be made on Monday, after which the council said it would do some improvement work at the complex.

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7:16am Thu 9 Aug 12

bigfella777 says...

Alan Kebbell sounds like such a narrel of laughs,I would love to have him as a neighbour.
Alan Kebbell sounds like such a narrel of laughs,I would love to have him as a neighbour. bigfella777
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8:57am Thu 9 Aug 12

mtdiablo says...

Alan Kebbell has really odd ideas about how 55-year-olds act
Alan Kebbell has really odd ideas about how 55-year-olds act mtdiablo
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12:55pm Thu 9 Aug 12

sass says...

Will the youngsters get evicted if an OAP need a place?
Will the youngsters get evicted if an OAP need a place? sass
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1:06pm Thu 9 Aug 12

townieboy says...

Just shut it yhen.knock it down and buid affordable houses.job done.
Just shut it yhen.knock it down and buid affordable houses.job done. townieboy
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1:27pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

If residents are used to living next to Allan Kebbell they should be able to cope with even few out of control kids, so lowering the age to 55 should not be a cause of concern!!

Seriously real problem is lack of affordable homes. Shortage caused by sale of many houses on the cheap and Councils stop building new homes, thanks to policies dictated by national governments of all major parties.
If residents are used to living next to Allan Kebbell they should be able to cope with even few out of control kids, so lowering the age to 55 should not be a cause of concern!! Seriously real problem is lack of affordable homes. Shortage caused by sale of many houses on the cheap and Councils stop building new homes, thanks to policies dictated by national governments of all major parties. Paramjit Bahia
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2:28pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times.
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times. . Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue Lone Ranger.
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3:02pm Thu 9 Aug 12

footballcrazy says...

you are funny alan kebbell labelling a loud music problem possibly with 55's. my mum is nearly 86 you should here her loud music.too much for me
you are funny alan kebbell labelling a loud music problem possibly with 55's. my mum is nearly 86 you should here her loud music.too much for me footballcrazy
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3:47pm Thu 9 Aug 12

loosehead says...

I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you loosehead
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4:27pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Bring back the Pre Fabs on that site!
Bring back the Pre Fabs on that site! Fatty x Ford Worker
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7:20pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
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If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
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I dont believe the double standard of some people.
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I really am surprised
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you[/p][/quote]Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home. . I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house. . If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds. . I dont believe the double standard of some people. . I really am surprised Lone Ranger.
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7:44pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

The best way to fill the vacant properties at Ventor Court is to evict the bully that is Alan Kebbell, he swans around like he owns the place, he think he own the council, he persistently digs dirt of city councillors, the man is horrible.

I wish Warwick Payne would do us all a favour and get rid of Kebbell the cretin.
The best way to fill the vacant properties at Ventor Court is to evict the bully that is Alan Kebbell, he swans around like he owns the place, he think he own the council, he persistently digs dirt of city councillors, the man is horrible. I wish Warwick Payne would do us all a favour and get rid of Kebbell the cretin. Over the Edge
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8:14pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times.
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
Agree.

Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices?

And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times. . Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue[/p][/quote]Agree. Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices? And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing Paramjit Bahia
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8:24pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times.
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
Agree.

Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices?

And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing
I dont see any real reason why there should be large discounts for people to buy or even be allowed to buy at all.
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Of course that they should not qualify for social or council housing if they sell their homes for banking money.
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There again i never have ..... irrespective of the governments colours.
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[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times. . Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue[/p][/quote]Agree. Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices? And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing[/p][/quote]I dont see any real reason why there should be large discounts for people to buy or even be allowed to buy at all. . Of course that they should not qualify for social or council housing if they sell their homes for banking money. . There again i never have ..... irrespective of the governments colours. . Lone Ranger.
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9:22pm Thu 9 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
.
I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you[/p][/quote]Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home. . I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house. . If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds. . I dont believe the double standard of some people. . I really am surprised[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time. I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points. we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January. we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy. isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year? if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt. by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS. Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners? On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that? loosehead
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10:24pm Thu 9 Aug 12

CookieCutter2 says...

Well hello My Kebble. Here was me thinking you had moved up north as you claimed to be doing several months ago, but as i see here you are still playing the imitation cop. Maybe you can tell me how i can join your Tenants Watch committee and fight something which i think is far more important than mixing the age range of our community, after all the young learn from us old'ns. The topic you should be more interested in are the 2 million pounds these immigrants owe to the NHS and Southampton hospital. But here is another topic just as important and that is the education of our young one's inability to obtain grants while these immigrants can get all kinds of grant money funding and have absolutely no intentions of repaying those grants, for as soon as they graduate they leave our shores for their own country never to pay back a penny. Southampton university is full of these people. So instead of preventing law abiding citizens from a council flat maybe you should be looking to something more appropriate. Notice though I said LAW abiding and as i understand you too were in your 50's when you moved into Ventnor Court.
Well hello My Kebble. Here was me thinking you had moved up north as you claimed to be doing several months ago, but as i see here you are still playing the imitation cop. Maybe you can tell me how i can join your Tenants Watch committee and fight something which i think is far more important than mixing the age range of our community, after all the young learn from us old'ns. The topic you should be more interested in are the 2 million pounds these immigrants owe to the NHS and Southampton hospital. But here is another topic just as important and that is the education of our young one's inability to obtain grants while these immigrants can get all kinds of grant money funding and have absolutely no intentions of repaying those grants, for as soon as they graduate they leave our shores for their own country never to pay back a penny. Southampton university is full of these people. So instead of preventing law abiding citizens from a council flat maybe you should be looking to something more appropriate. Notice though I said LAW abiding and as i understand you too were in your 50's when you moved into Ventnor Court. CookieCutter2
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10:40pm Thu 9 Aug 12

Inform Al says...

As usual the Echo only reports half the story. If any of the cretins that chose to knock me are in any way interested in the truth then try taking in these facts. Firstly despite the vacancies at Ventnor Court none of them was advertised in the council's home bid magazine for over a year, similar properties elsewhere in the city have every vacancy advertised and even now that Ventnor Court is back in Home Bid, only one 3rd floor flat is currently advertised despite there being vacancies on the ground floor that is always preferred by older less mobile applicants. For some reason the rents at Ventnjor are higher than ALL the identical blocks elsewhere in the city. For a while as well as not being advertised in Home Bid people who actually applied to move into Ventnor were told no flats there were on offer. There is something very smelly about the way the Head of Housing Management manipulated the excess of voids at Ventnor under the Tory administration, and for this reason I'm not at all surprised that the Echo is not giving all the facts in this matter, despite my having given them to the reporter.. Another important fact they were given is that compared with the total 156 supported flats in the North of the city there is a glut in the other districts with over 400 in the West and similar numbers in the other districts. So if it becomes impossible for the elderly from the Flower Roads to retire there, their children will not be in the situation, as elsewhere in the city, of having their parents conveniently close to care for them. I have every sympathy with the 14500 plus applicants on the waiting list but the 20 or so tiny flats empty at Ventnor Court will not even scratch the surface. What is desperately needed is for a massive programme to build council housing that will be self financing through rental income and cut the dole queues by putting people into work. It will also be the quickest way to end the double dip, at no cost! It won't happen of course because that will upset C'morons rich property owning friends who want as much of the Housing Benefit payouts as they can grab.
As usual the Echo only reports half the story. If any of the cretins that chose to knock me are in any way interested in the truth then try taking in these facts. Firstly despite the vacancies at Ventnor Court none of them was advertised in the council's home bid magazine for over a year, similar properties elsewhere in the city have every vacancy advertised and even now that Ventnor Court is back in Home Bid, only one 3rd floor flat is currently advertised despite there being vacancies on the ground floor that is always preferred by older less mobile applicants. For some reason the rents at Ventnjor are higher than ALL the identical blocks elsewhere in the city. For a while as well as not being advertised in Home Bid people who actually applied to move into Ventnor were told no flats there were on offer. There is something very smelly about the way the Head of Housing Management manipulated the excess of voids at Ventnor under the Tory administration, and for this reason I'm not at all surprised that the Echo is not giving all the facts in this matter, despite my having given them to the reporter.. Another important fact they were given is that compared with the total 156 supported flats in the North of the city there is a glut in the other districts with over 400 in the West and similar numbers in the other districts. So if it becomes impossible for the elderly from the Flower Roads to retire there, their children will not be in the situation, as elsewhere in the city, of having their parents conveniently close to care for them. I have every sympathy with the 14500 plus applicants on the waiting list but the 20 or so tiny flats empty at Ventnor Court will not even scratch the surface. What is desperately needed is for a massive programme to build council housing that will be self financing through rental income and cut the dole queues by putting people into work. It will also be the quickest way to end the double dip, at no cost! It won't happen of course because that will upset C'morons rich property owning friends who want as much of the Housing Benefit payouts as they can grab. Inform Al
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8:19am Fri 10 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
.
I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
Usual rubbish loosehead.
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You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
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Shop around there are some great deals out there.
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You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you[/p][/quote]Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home. . I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house. . If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds. . I dont believe the double standard of some people. . I really am surprised[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time. I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points. we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January. we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy. isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year? if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt. by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS. Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners? On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?[/p][/quote]Usual rubbish loosehead. . You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January ....... . Shop around there are some great deals out there. . You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake. Lone Ranger.
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12:39pm Fri 10 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
.
I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
Usual rubbish loosehead.
.
You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
.
Shop around there are some great deals out there.
.
You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
Useless rubbish you total as* wipe!
Why are you not slating your beloved Labour party & the Unions?
Considering job losses to give high earners more pay?
You don't know me or my circumstances yet you come out with absolute cr+p like this? Get a life & try explaining to the council workers who lose their jobs that the loss of pay by striking was worth it.
When strikers were asked why if their pay wasn't to be effected with the rising of the start of cut in pay (22,000) were they on strike? we do it to protect our fellow workers?
Will the high earners now reject the deal to protect the jobs of the lower paid who will be losing their jobs?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you[/p][/quote]Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home. . I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house. . If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds. . I dont believe the double standard of some people. . I really am surprised[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time. I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points. we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January. we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy. isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year? if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt. by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS. Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners? On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?[/p][/quote]Usual rubbish loosehead. . You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January ....... . Shop around there are some great deals out there. . You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.[/p][/quote]Useless rubbish you total as* wipe! Why are you not slating your beloved Labour party & the Unions? Considering job losses to give high earners more pay? You don't know me or my circumstances yet you come out with absolute cr+p like this? Get a life & try explaining to the council workers who lose their jobs that the loss of pay by striking was worth it. When strikers were asked why if their pay wasn't to be effected with the rising of the start of cut in pay (22,000) were they on strike? we do it to protect our fellow workers? Will the high earners now reject the deal to protect the jobs of the lower paid who will be losing their jobs? loosehead
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1:01pm Fri 10 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances.
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
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Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
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Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
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Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!! Lone Ranger.
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5:46pm Fri 10 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances.
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
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Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
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Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
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Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you?
Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax?
I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that loosehead
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9:50pm Fri 10 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances.
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
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Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
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Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
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Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you?
Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax?
I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that[/p][/quote]Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are Lone Ranger.
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7:22am Sat 11 Aug 12

frenchvic says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
I'm sure these two don't like each other.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that[/p][/quote]Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are[/p][/quote]I'm sure these two don't like each other. frenchvic
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8:26am Sat 11 Aug 12

loosehead says...

frenchvic wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
I'm sure these two don't like each other.
I think you're right!
[quote][p][bold]frenchvic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that[/p][/quote]Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are[/p][/quote]I'm sure these two don't like each other.[/p][/quote]I think you're right! loosehead
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8:29am Sat 11 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
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If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
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I dont believe the double standard of some people.
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I really am surprised
Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
Usual rubbish loosehead.
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You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
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Shop around there are some great deals out there.
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You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
Ant I also put it in the hands of an estate agent & as far as I knew it was private rental no DHSS.
only until I was told the rent was lowered & told the damages being done did I know.
I then found out why so many private landlords refuse to rent to DHSS.
I had only done it for the short term & I had no interest at all in becoming a Landlord
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market. I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours. But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ? there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they? Sorry Alan can't agree with you[/p][/quote]Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home. . I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house. . If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds. . I dont believe the double standard of some people. . I really am surprised[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time. I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points. we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January. we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy. isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year? if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt. by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS. Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners? On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?[/p][/quote]Usual rubbish loosehead. . You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January ....... . Shop around there are some great deals out there. . You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.[/p][/quote]Ant I also put it in the hands of an estate agent & as far as I knew it was private rental no DHSS. only until I was told the rent was lowered & told the damages being done did I know. I then found out why so many private landlords refuse to rent to DHSS. I had only done it for the short term & I had no interest at all in becoming a Landlord loosehead
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2:20pm Sat 11 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

frenchvic wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
I'm sure these two don't like each other.
WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his.
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Thankful for small mercies
[quote][p][bold]frenchvic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that[/p][/quote]Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are[/p][/quote]I'm sure these two don't like each other.[/p][/quote]WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his. . Thankful for small mercies Lone Ranger.
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3:10pm Sat 11 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
frenchvic wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
I'm sure these two don't like each other.
WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his.
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Thankful for small mercies
I think you're reading back you're own posts & realising how wrong you are but hey I never said that it was Loosehead.
Lone Ranger is there nothing this Labour council or the Unions can do that will open you're eyes & see you criticise them?
I have already disagreed with the Tory Party over Bio Mass so exactly don't you agree with that Labour or the Unions are doing or are you totally happy with them?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frenchvic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that[/p][/quote]Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are[/p][/quote]I'm sure these two don't like each other.[/p][/quote]WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his. . Thankful for small mercies[/p][/quote]I think you're reading back you're own posts & realising how wrong you are but hey I never said that it was Loosehead. Lone Ranger is there nothing this Labour council or the Unions can do that will open you're eyes & see you criticise them? I have already disagreed with the Tory Party over Bio Mass so exactly don't you agree with that Labour or the Unions are doing or are you totally happy with them? loosehead
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