Party continues for self-styled 'playboy' Paul Sperring

Paul Sperring, centre, pictured with friends on a boat in Southampton. Picture from Facebook. Paul Sperring, centre, pictured with friends on a boat in Southampton. Picture from Facebook.

SHAMELESSLY self-styled party king Paul Sperring was last night revelling in his notoriety from his paradise hideaway.

Holed up in Miami, he has now posted a stream of comments on his open Facebook page after the “party to end all parties” landed him in court over noise complaints .

The Daily Echo has revealed how perma-tanned Sperring held the do at a £1m penthouse apartment in Southampton – much to the dismay of long-suffering neighbours.

With a booming “bass beat” pulsating from Sperring’s luxury five-bed pad becoming unbearable, fed-up residents phoned the city council’s noise police.

The fun-loving 35-year-old pleaded guilty to causing a statutory nuisance at the apartment he was renting in South Western House, in breach of an earlier noise order and apologised for not controlling his party.

On Facebook he wrote: “Just got a text from someone on the beach in the Algarve... she caught a glimpse of me in someone’s newspaper.... her comment was ‘well done Paul, you’ve gone global’.

“I know I honestly would have paid money for this. I guess when you’re news, you’re news. Read it and weep haters.

“It doesn’t get more important than this. This is on CNN right now.

“It is clearly not necessary for a statement from Camp Sperring, the media is doing my work while I’m on vacation.

“It’s nice that I’m news and the topic of conversation while on the other side of the world.”

Draped in women, quaffing cocktails and champagne and pulling his trademark pose of pointing his fingers like a gun, he cultivates an image as Southampton’s party king.

On his website he claims to have attended a “school for higher beings” in the US and is apparently seeking “world domination”. He also refers to himself as “kingofeverything” on this website.

Not shy of showing off his lavish lifestyle, he also posts videos on Youtube such as one where he takes viewers on a tour of his Royal Suite aboard the cruise ship Oasis of the Seas.

Sperring, who runs a tanning salon in Queensway and gives his home address as Oceana Boulevard, is the grandson of the late Hampshire businessman Tom Sperring, who founded a successful chain of convenience stores across the south.

The business blossomed from a single newsagent to an 80-store giant which was sold in the late ’80s for £20m to US retail giant Circle K.

The buyout would be worth about £46m at today’s prices.

Comments(66)

pushamara says...
11:06am Wed 22 Aug 12

Why would you print this story after yesterday? You disabled the comments on that story and now you have opened the whole thing up again! He will no doubt be on here again shortly winding everyone up buy I guess that's what you want?

Scott_OOOSH says...
11:10am Wed 22 Aug 12

Haaaaa! They've just opened another can of worms!

Georgem says...
11:24am Wed 22 Aug 12

Guess the Echo made a few quid from ad impressions on yesterday's most-commented story.

kissmya%% says...
11:28am Wed 22 Aug 12

I would say those supermodels to him are stunning , however a bit rough i would say !

Scott_OOOSH says...
11:31am Wed 22 Aug 12

I really need to come up with a trademark pose! The gun fingers clearly work for him!

ToastyTea says...
11:32am Wed 22 Aug 12

Is this story a joke FFS, find some proper news Echo you morons this is laughable you've now done a story about how he has writen on facebook that's he's been in your rubbish paper.

Bitterne Resident says...
11:34am Wed 22 Aug 12

He must be so embarrassing for the Sperring family, who worked so hard to build a business. I expect his Grandfather would be turning in his grave at his attitude on this message board yesterday. he is dragging that family name down. I expect they are ashamed of him.

Higginz says...
11:36am Wed 22 Aug 12

I prefer the women from yesterday, particularly the smaller one. But I'd much rather test drive a large number of standard cars, than drive a Merc every day.
If I had the money, I'd probably be living the same lifestyle. Just without the gun pose.

Caledonian2 says...
11:41am Wed 22 Aug 12

Is this what passes for journalism these days? Using pictures (without permission or copyright) from Facebook, taking quotes from someone's profile and recycling the same material from yesterdays article.

CHURNALISM

hulla baloo says...
11:52am Wed 22 Aug 12

What an ar5e. Spoilt brat who has probably never done a days work in his life, and living off the sweat from other peoples brows.
One word. Parasite.

kissmya%% says...
12:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

He is southamptons answer to michael carroll king of the chavs

SO50 Saint says...
12:25pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Does he always wear a Lakers top? Nice to see he has a pout aswell as the gun hand pose that's real cool

superchef says...
12:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12

hulla baloo wrote:
What an ar5e. Spoilt brat who has probably never done a days work in his life, and living off the sweat from other peoples brows.
One word. Parasite.
Couldnt of said it better!!

bigfella777 says...
12:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% wrote:
He is southamptons answer to michael carroll king of the chavs
That's just it though,if you had a bit of money why would you want to live in Southampton,its just a dump and everyone else is skint.It's like its an ego trip for him because he is richer than everyone else.
I would hate to be surrounded by strippers all the time,they are just the most stupid,boring women you could possibly meet.
Seems like the echos really got it in for this guy,there are plenty of people up to far worse than this in Soton.

Kingofeverything says...
12:33pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I'm flattered x

Scott_OOOSH says...
12:37pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Don't be...

kingnotail says...
12:37pm Wed 22 Aug 12

If you had money..why would you live in Southampton?!

Soton25 says...
12:40pm Wed 22 Aug 12

All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated !
Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life !
He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention !
Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there !
I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !?

He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !?
And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !!
Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have !


Enjoy Miami Paul x

jazzi says...
12:47pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.

kissmya%% says...
12:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Soton25 wrote:
All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated !
Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life !
He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention !
Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there !
I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !?

He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !?
And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !!
Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have !


Enjoy Miami Paul x
If it was jealousy I am sure many people who are rich , proper rich like football would have abuse on here & clearly they don't he is a bellen% trying to be a gangster , He is a nobody in a small little world of his , He would be totally outclassed in london & prob get the shi% kicked out of him , Iam sure he will sooner than later .

rolemander says...
12:52pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Hi Paul. Can i be your friend?

Soton25 says...
12:54pm Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% wrote:
Soton25 wrote:
All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated !
Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life !
He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention !
Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there !
I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !?

He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !?
And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !!
Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have !


Enjoy Miami Paul x
If it was jealousy I am sure many people who are rich , proper rich like football would have abuse on here & clearly they don't he is a bellen% trying to be a gangster , He is a nobody in a small little world of his , He would be totally outclassed in london & prob get the shi% kicked out of him , Iam sure he will sooner than later .
What a disgusting nasty thing to say !! Why would that happen cos he had a party .... Get in the real world !!

Why would like u say so called important people like stupid footballers ( cr@p example by the way ) be perusing through the daily echo wandering what story they can comment on .......

What do u or any of u know about Paul and his life ! More fool the lot of u for believing this cr@p !

kissmya%% says...
12:55pm Wed 22 Aug 12

jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
Well you took the bait , so you hardly set a example do you ?

Hatchet Harry says...
12:55pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Here we go again! Why the Echo are feeding his ego is beyond me. I can almost guarantee various hanger-on's are posting various vomit inducing, brown nosing comments on his wall and 'dissing' the posters here (even though some no doubt agree!), just to feed this fools ego and to ensure they continue to get a free ride. In his little brain, he love's this attention as he thinks it makes him look good. Any 'publicity' is good publicity for Paul. He thrives on it. Were all guilty just for bothering to comment (myself included). Such an embarassment to his family. Don't comment and this poo stain will disappear.

jazzi says...
12:58pm Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% wrote:
jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
Well you took the bait , so you hardly set a example do you ?
You are a Pratt, honestly !!

kissmya%% says...
1:00pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Soton25 wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Soton25 wrote:
All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated !
Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life !
He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention !
Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there !
I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !?

He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !?
And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !!
Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have !


Enjoy Miami Paul x
If it was jealousy I am sure many people who are rich , proper rich like football would have abuse on here & clearly they don't he is a bellen% trying to be a gangster , He is a nobody in a small little world of his , He would be totally outclassed in london & prob get the shi% kicked out of him , Iam sure he will sooner than later .
What a disgusting nasty thing to say !! Why would that happen cos he had a party .... Get in the real world !!

Why would like u say so called important people like stupid footballers ( cr@p example by the way ) be perusing through the daily echo wandering what story they can comment on .......

What do u or any of u know about Paul and his life ! More fool the lot of u for believing this cr@p !
oh come on , if your a supposed friend (I think not) like you say , you would hopefully have half a brain cell to realise he has a habit of rubbing people up the wrong way , money or no money .
He obv enjoys watching amercian gangster films , he is a mug ! prob got the idea of life watching the 90's show eldorado !

Soton25 says...
1:07pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Maybe you should check the definition of friend?
i have no interest or need to brown nose him!
what ever his personality is .... this is hardly BREAKING NEWS is it.

he only rubs you lot up the wrong way because which sane person is going to stand there and take your verbal attacks when you dont even know the person just the tripe you have read

kissmya%% says...
1:16pm Wed 22 Aug 12

jazzi wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
Well you took the bait , so you hardly set a example do you ?
You are a Pratt, honestly !!
Ha Ha Ha

andreww says...
1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12

If he is anything like his father it was probably all bought on credit

Hatchet Harry says...
1:30pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Soton25 wrote:
All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated ! Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life ! He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention ! Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there ! I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !? He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !? And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !! Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have ! Enjoy Miami Paul x
Soton, I partly agree with you. However, as you know, Paul was/is fairly well known in the local area for all the wrong reasons! Of course he should enjoy himself (who wouldn't!), but why advertise it. I have a few close friends that are substantially more wealthy than Pauls family and successful individuals in their own right. BUT, they choose not to outrageously brag about their OWN fortune and purposely belittle those who aren't as fortunate. They are humble, yet enjoy themselves! He’s always been like this, way before these 'stories' were published. Regardless of how you dress it up, you cannot excuse his arrogant, disgusting, behaviour towards others I'm afraid. Paul has (and will always be) a muppet. Hence, the reason for some of these comments.

tgaffer says...
1:46pm Wed 22 Aug 12

King Of Everything? Is that literally everything? Wow. What a guy. I want a piece of that. Call me! Keith x

dango says...
1:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Money can't buy class.

BillyTheKid says...
2:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Everyone over a certain age in Southampton went to Sperrings : paper, loaf of bread, pint of milk, etc. They were a quality "small" shop chain that replaced all those old, dodgy corner shops that sold stale crisps, mouldy bread, and bars of chocolate that had been on display in the window for years. So anything "Sperring" will be of interest to Southampton people.

As someone pointed out yesterday, all Paul Sperring has done is to cause a nuisance with his parties, for which he has been fined, and has apologised. Hardly the crime of the century, is it, when you read about what other people have done ?

I'm reminded of all the public outcry associated with the Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, the Sex Pistols, and others. OK, so they were pop entertainers, but their expertise was with stage performance, not with being scrutinized and manipulated by the media. So often they were made to look worse than they were in order to sell news.

Enough people have commented on here about what a decent chap Paul is underneath his public image, so there has to be some truth in that.

Perhaps there'll be a book, or a film deal one day : face it - most of us will read it and watch just out of curiosity, if nothing else. We'll want to know what were the facts, and what were the myths.

Finally, it's his money and his life, and to my knowledge he is entitled to do what he likes with it so long as he doesn't contravene legal or social expectations.

bubbles 88 says...
2:22pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Well done Echo feeding his ego again.

pushamara says...
2:40pm Wed 22 Aug 12

What most of the posts on here that are "pro paul" are failing to realise is that most people here are not annoyed about his wealth, just his attitude. Yes, we would all like to be that well off and good luck to him. I know I would live it up if I had that sort of money! What's grinding peoples goats is the arrogance of him. Had he of come on here yesterday and just said" yea, I had a party, it was a bit loud and sorry about that" I don't think many people would have even bothered commenting on a nothing story. But his attitude towards other people has been disgusting, that's what's annoying everyone.

kingnotail says...
2:58pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Got to love the pi**-poor small town news - to be fair he's probably one of the most famous people from Southampton, after Benny Hill, Craig David, Howard Jones and the drummer from Coldplay.

Caledonian2 says...
2:59pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I would argue that this article is in breach of the "Editors Code of Practice", specifically relating to Privacy:

" *Privacy

i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant's own public disclosures of information.

iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent."

Clearly, using quotes and photo's from an individual's facebook profile without their permission is a breach of point 1.

BillyTheKid says...
3:07pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Caledonian2 wrote:
I would argue that this article is in breach of the "Editors Code of Practice", specifically relating to Privacy:

" *Privacy

i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant's own public disclosures of information.

iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent."

Clearly, using quotes and photo's from an individual's facebook profile without their permission is a breach of point 1.
Interesting points.

However, my reading of the whole saga is that Paul wants the publicity. Nowhere today, or yesterday, does Paul ask for his privacy to be respected. His comments suggest he is happy with it.

BillyTheKid says...
3:14pm Wed 22 Aug 12

pushamara wrote:
What most of the posts on here that are "pro paul" are failing to realise is that most people here are not annoyed about his wealth, just his attitude. Yes, we would all like to be that well off and good luck to him. I know I would live it up if I had that sort of money! What's grinding peoples goats is the arrogance of him. Had he of come on here yesterday and just said" yea, I had a party, it was a bit loud and sorry about that" I don't think many people would have even bothered commenting on a nothing story. But his attitude towards other people has been disgusting, that's what's annoying everyone.
I think most people would agree with you, pushamara.

But it is the very fact that he has done the opposite of what people might expect that has made it newsworthy.

As I understand it, the main purpose of a newspaper is to tell us the news, the second is to encourage discussion and debate. As far as I can see, the Echo is doing its job.

vag says...
3:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I don't know this chap personally, but he certainly is coming across as a total doos. Money shouts (and usually gets ignored) wealth whispers.

Bitterne Resident says...
3:30pm Wed 22 Aug 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Everyone over a certain age in Southampton went to Sperrings : paper, loaf of bread, pint of milk, etc. They were a quality "small" shop chain that replaced all those old, dodgy corner shops that sold stale crisps, mouldy bread, and bars of chocolate that had been on display in the window for years. So anything "Sperring" will be of interest to Southampton people. As someone pointed out yesterday, all Paul Sperring has done is to cause a nuisance with his parties, for which he has been fined, and has apologised. Hardly the crime of the century, is it, when you read about what other people have done ? I'm reminded of all the public outcry associated with the Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, the Sex Pistols, and others. OK, so they were pop entertainers, but their expertise was with stage performance, not with being scrutinized and manipulated by the media. So often they were made to look worse than they were in order to sell news. Enough people have commented on here about what a decent chap Paul is underneath his public image, so there has to be some truth in that. Perhaps there'll be a book, or a film deal one day : face it - most of us will read it and watch just out of curiosity, if nothing else. We'll want to know what were the facts, and what were the myths. Finally, it's his money and his life, and to my knowledge he is entitled to do what he likes with it so long as he doesn't contravene legal or social expectations.
I'm reminded of all the public outcry associated with the Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, the Sex Pistols, and others. OK, so they were pop entertainers, but their expertise was with stage performance, not with being scrutinized and manipulated by the media. So often they were made to look worse than they were in order to sell news. Enough people have commented on here about what a decent chap Paul is underneath his public image, so there has to be some truth in that. Perhaps there'll be a book, or a film deal one day : face it - most of us will read it and watch just out of curiosity, if nothing else.

Here, There says...
3:38pm Wed 22 Aug 12

The continual reference to Sperrings the successful chain must be embarrassing for those associated to it's success, Tom had nothing to do with the stores themselves but simply had a 'Video Box' stand in most, Echo research how much,if anything, Tom got from the Sale to Circle K....Paul is shaming the extended family by courting further publicity.

BillyTheKid says...
3:51pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Bitterne Resident wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Everyone over a certain age in Southampton went to Sperrings : paper, loaf of bread, pint of milk, etc. They were a quality "small" shop chain that replaced all those old, dodgy corner shops that sold stale crisps, mouldy bread, and bars of chocolate that had been on display in the window for years. So anything "Sperring" will be of interest to Southampton people. As someone pointed out yesterday, all Paul Sperring has done is to cause a nuisance with his parties, for which he has been fined, and has apologised. Hardly the crime of the century, is it, when you read about what other people have done ? I'm reminded of all the public outcry associated with the Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, the Sex Pistols, and others. OK, so they were pop entertainers, but their expertise was with stage performance, not with being scrutinized and manipulated by the media. So often they were made to look worse than they were in order to sell news. Enough people have commented on here about what a decent chap Paul is underneath his public image, so there has to be some truth in that. Perhaps there'll be a book, or a film deal one day : face it - most of us will read it and watch just out of curiosity, if nothing else. We'll want to know what were the facts, and what were the myths. Finally, it's his money and his life, and to my knowledge he is entitled to do what he likes with it so long as he doesn't contravene legal or social expectations.
I'm reminded of all the public outcry associated with the Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, the Sex Pistols, and others. OK, so they were pop entertainers, but their expertise was with stage performance, not with being scrutinized and manipulated by the media. So often they were made to look worse than they were in order to sell news. Enough people have commented on here about what a decent chap Paul is underneath his public image, so there has to be some truth in that. Perhaps there'll be a book, or a film deal one day : face it - most of us will read it and watch just out of curiosity, if nothing else.
Why did you copy what I wrote ?

BillyTheKid says...
4:11pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Here, There wrote:
The continual reference to Sperrings the successful chain must be embarrassing for those associated to it's success, Tom had nothing to do with the stores themselves but simply had a 'Video Box' stand in most, Echo research how much,if anything, Tom got from the Sale to Circle K....Paul is shaming the extended family by courting further publicity.
Bringing shame on the family name - so very, very "English".

He held noisy parties.

He has not been involved in a riot, shoplifted, committed arson, burgled, driven dangerously up a slip road the wrong way, sold drugs or ****, defrauded the Inland Revenue, assaulted anyone, been guilty of manslaughter or committed murder, or microwaved a cat. Isn't being guilty of those kind of things more worthy of shame.

Right all you "Judge Jefferies" out there ! What is it to be for being rowdy with aggravated arrogance ? Hanging or transportation ? lol !

Scott_OOOSH says...
4:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I'd opt for a stern spanking.

Caledonian2 says...
4:43pm Wed 22 Aug 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Caledonian2 wrote:
I would argue that this article is in breach of the "Editors Code of Practice", specifically relating to Privacy:

" *Privacy

i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant's own public disclosures of information.

iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent."

Clearly, using quotes and photo's from an individual's facebook profile without their permission is a breach of point 1.
Interesting points.

However, my reading of the whole saga is that Paul wants the publicity. Nowhere today, or yesterday, does Paul ask for his privacy to be respected. His comments suggest he is happy with it.
The article yesterday covering the court case could be classed as being in the public interest.

However, nothing Paul has done has justified the Echo going onto his facebook profile, taking his pictures and using his quotes without his permission. It's a blatant intrusion in my opinion.

Georgem says...
4:45pm Wed 22 Aug 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Here, There wrote:
The continual reference to Sperrings the successful chain must be embarrassing for those associated to it's success, Tom had nothing to do with the stores themselves but simply had a 'Video Box' stand in most, Echo research how much,if anything, Tom got from the Sale to Circle K....Paul is shaming the extended family by courting further publicity.
Bringing shame on the family name - so very, very "English".

He held noisy parties.

He has not been involved in a riot, shoplifted, committed arson, burgled, driven dangerously up a slip road the wrong way, sold drugs or ****, defrauded the Inland Revenue, assaulted anyone, been guilty of manslaughter or committed murder, or microwaved a cat. Isn't being guilty of those kind of things more worthy of shame.

Right all you "Judge Jefferies" out there ! What is it to be for being rowdy with aggravated arrogance ? Hanging or transportation ? lol !
He's committed that most outrageous of crimes, Billy. He's enjoying himself. You know how the Echo readership feels about that sort of thing. Worse, there's no reason why he SHOULDN'T be enjoying himself. He isn't on the dole, he isn't a student, he isn't a parent, he has no other responsibilities that people can claim should take precedence. It maddens the hivemind.

100%HANTSBOY says...
5:09pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Here, There wrote:
The continual reference to Sperrings the successful chain must be embarrassing for those associated to it's success, Tom had nothing to do with the stores themselves but simply had a 'Video Box' stand in most, Echo research how much,if anything, Tom got from the Sale to Circle K....Paul is shaming the extended family by courting further publicity.
Bringing shame on the family name - so very, very "English".

He held noisy parties.

He has not been involved in a riot, shoplifted, committed arson, burgled, driven dangerously up a slip road the wrong way, sold drugs or ****, defrauded the Inland Revenue, assaulted anyone, been guilty of manslaughter or committed murder, or microwaved a cat. Isn't being guilty of those kind of things more worthy of shame.

Right all you "Judge Jefferies" out there ! What is it to be for being rowdy with aggravated arrogance ? Hanging or transportation ? lol !
He's committed that most outrageous of crimes, Billy. He's enjoying himself. You know how the Echo readership feels about that sort of thing. Worse, there's no reason why he SHOULDN'T be enjoying himself. He isn't on the dole, he isn't a student, he isn't a parent, he has no other responsibilities that people can claim should take precedence. It maddens the hivemind.
Here here,this bloke may be arrogant but he is doing no harm,just living it large and having a laugh.
Lets face it most of us would love to live a better life,thats why we queue up at our local newsagent for our lottery tickets,dig deep everyone,we all know we want it.

BillyTheKid says...
5:11pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Caledonian2 wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Caledonian2 wrote:
I would argue that this article is in breach of the "Editors Code of Practice", specifically relating to Privacy:

" *Privacy

i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant's own public disclosures of information.

iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent."

Clearly, using quotes and photo's from an individual's facebook profile without their permission is a breach of point 1.
Interesting points.

However, my reading of the whole saga is that Paul wants the publicity. Nowhere today, or yesterday, does Paul ask for his privacy to be respected. His comments suggest he is happy with it.
The article yesterday covering the court case could be classed as being in the public interest.

However, nothing Paul has done has justified the Echo going onto his facebook profile, taking his pictures and using his quotes without his permission. It's a blatant intrusion in my opinion.
How do you know the Echo went into his Facebook profile, how do you know the pictures were the property of Paul Sperring, and how do you know it was all done without his permission ?

Just wondered.......

LeeB1900 says...
6:16pm Wed 22 Aug 12

wow - what a story. Lets set aside Pauls wealth and lavish lifestyles. Yes agreed I think we would all love to do nothing all day for a living - yet still have a hefty bank balance to spend on tarts. But.... the real issue seems to have gone astray... on MANY ocaasions he was noisy, he got caught a few times and HIS behavior landed him in Court. Not his wallet or his tarts, his denial to stick to what he had been told to, i.e BE QUIET! Again lets set aside his piggy bank balance and look at what he done. He made peoples lifes a misery and not was not just once. If you all like to have peace at night or during the day when your trying to rest or sleep - how would you feel if some ignorant d**k didn't allow that because they were playing their music far too loud? If this went on for months and months (like this did) then I think everyone on this panel would agree enough is enough. His wealth is the only reasn he has the females sniffing his b8ll8ks, he has no intelligence, no care, he walks around with a big wallet and no brains. I don't know about the sperring shops but I would imagine those who handed this delightful person his wealth are so very proud. NOT! Also I note the noise police have not commented on this on-going saga... it would be good to hear from them about this and have the second side of this story revealved. Final note, all those who have noisy neighbours should do the same as those who were pi88ed off my Pauls arrogance. REPORT THEM!

Inform Al says...
6:37pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Soton25 wrote:
All of the comments on here seem like pure jealousy ! This crappy non important article was printed yesterday and wow it got 90+ comments cos people in this world are far too opinionated !
Ive known Paul a few years ! And he's never caused me any harm ! So what he goes on holiday and does what he wants and doesn't have to work .... In the real world we probably all wish this was our life !
He's inherited money - big deal ! Everyone has just jumped on the band wagon because yet again the echo can't publicise the full story just the sh@t bits to get people's attention !
Why don't the inform Soton residents about the little girl snatched from bitterne at the weekend .... No mention of that is there !
I would bet that half the people slaggin him off have either been on Facebook or tried addin him within the last 24 hours !! How hypocritical are you lot !?

He's apologised what more do you want out of him ..... Blood !?
And as for the people slaggin off Southampton you probably live there yourself !!
Jealousy and spite is a nasty trait to have !


Enjoy Miami Paul x
Sorry Soton, I've checked the image of the Riverside suspect. It definitely isnt your mate Paul.

LeeB1900 says...
6:47pm Wed 22 Aug 12

ToastyTea wrote:
Is this story a joke FFS, find some proper news Echo you morons this is laughable you've now done a story about how he has writen on facebook that's he's been in your rubbish paper.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!

LeeB1900 says...
6:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

bigfella777 wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
He is southamptons answer to michael carroll king of the chavs
That's just it though,if you had a bit of money why would you want to live in Southampton,its just a dump and everyone else is skint.It's like its an ego trip for him because he is richer than everyone else.
I would hate to be surrounded by strippers all the time,they are just the most stupid,boring women you could possibly meet.
Seems like the echos really got it in for this guy,there are plenty of people up to far worse than this in Soton.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!

LeeB1900 says...
6:49pm Wed 22 Aug 12

pushamara wrote:
Why would you print this story after yesterday? You disabled the comments on that story and now you have opened the whole thing up again! He will no doubt be on here again shortly winding everyone up buy I guess that's what you want?
The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year.

LeeB1900 says...
6:50pm Wed 22 Aug 12

jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!

kissmya%% says...
7:06pm Wed 22 Aug 12

LeeB1900 wrote:
jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!
well said The echo has done a great job of shaming the daft chav.

Here, There says...
7:39pm Wed 22 Aug 12

I am not suggesting he should Hang merely that the video, which would substantiate he was commenting himself yesterday also, is quite shameful and cringeworthy to his family..to those defending him, would your Son, Brother, Nephew etc..behaving like that ?

jazzi says...
7:52pm Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% wrote:
LeeB1900 wrote:
jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!
well said The echo has done a great job of shaming the daft chav.
Go on, go on go on go on goooo onnnnn. You two are well suited moaners. Where in my post did I mention NOISE ????
He paid his fine, what more do you want, ohhhh a POUND OF FLESH eh !!!
Can't have a go at him, so direct your pathetic morality onto me ??

You really are PRATTS !!

dolomiteman says...
8:32pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Yesterday the Echo blocked comments to this non story yet allow comments on stories about road traffic deaths, some of you have asked why and the answer is simple.. the more post on this forum the more money the Echo make form advertising, by reahashing yesterdays story they are stirring the pot to get more comments. sorry this is posted here but it would not be right to post it in the 'elderly couple die in crash' or mororcyclist dies' posts.
And I do not know Paul but what he does is his business and if he wants to play the playboy with gangster pose and the posse of hanger-ons then let hin get on with it, he is not doing anyone any harm.

dolomiteman says...
8:36pm Wed 22 Aug 12

jazzi wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
LeeB1900 wrote:
jazzi wrote:
Oh leave him alone, if I was in his flip flops i'd be posing with 4 half naked fit men giving you bunch of miserable morons the "V" sign.

I bet he is having a right laugh at all media morons too.
lets hope you never get noisy neighbours. if your sleep is disturbed or your life turned upside down with over a year of noise nuisance as it was in this case - then lets hope the noise police DON'T help YOU! The echo are doing a great job showing help is out there for those suffering with noisy neighbours which is exactly what Paul was for an enture year. I live in Oxford Street and heard the t**t many many times! In fact I still do as he now lives a few feet down the road!
well said The echo has done a great job of shaming the daft chav.
Go on, go on go on go on goooo onnnnn. You two are well suited moaners. Where in my post did I mention NOISE ????
He paid his fine, what more do you want, ohhhh a POUND OF FLESH eh !!!
Can't have a go at him, so direct your pathetic morality onto me ??

You really are PRATTS !!
The are hundreds of noise complaints every week and a lot of them end up in court being fined but the Echo won't run a story of Joe public has a noisy party in his Millbrook council house.

BillyTheKid says...
10:41pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
LOL!!! PAUL IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE SOUTH COAST!! HE'S GOT NOTHING WORTH HAVING! YEA GREAT, MONEY AND WHAT ELSE? HE'S NOT WORTH ANYTHING, JUST A PATHETIC, SMALL MINDED, STUPID, CLUELESS, WORTHLESS SCUM!! FORGET ABOUT HIM! HE'S NOTHING. I KNOW HIM AND KNOW HIM WELL!! THAT'S IT :)
How about some evidence to back up your claims ? Bet you haven't got the nerve, or the lawyers !
Lawyers for what? Take me to caught for telling the truth? What kind of sentence does that hold?
Ignore the silly sod , He is just trying to be smart 99% on here agree with ya .

keep it up coys !!!!
Your post is a "rabble rouser", I am not a "silly sod", and I am not "trying to be smart".

If you make unsubstantiated accusations about someone, you could find yourself paying out a large sum of money as damages for libel.

All we have seen here is semi-coherent heresay and unproven anecdotes.

Print some examples, with dates and times, of Paul's alleged "stupidity", "cluelessness", and "small-mindedness".

For something to be true, it has to be backed up with proveable evidence.

The Echo keep an archive of all posts, and everyone who posts here can be traced. So if you post an accusation or allegation that you cannot back up, you could find yourself paying out a lot of money in court costs and damages if the victim decides to take legal action.

I am not threatening anyone, or trying to make you look foolish. All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing.
With all due respect Billy, you're wrong on a few points here. 1, not everyone who posts here can be traced. Online anonymity is pretty simple to achieve if you want it. Also, merely saying something mean about somebody else, even if untrue, isn't enough to warrant legal action. For example - and although this sounds nit-picky, it's EXACTLY the sort of thing that can make a difference in a defamation case - calling this guy worthless scum is literally not true. He isn't worthless, because he has a lot of money. He isn't literally scum, either, using the actual definition of the word. So those two things are not true, and could not realistically be believed to be true, ergo no defamation has taken place. Fortunately, mere name-calling isn't going to land you a defamation suit, or we'd all be in trouble!

Just to help keep things in perspective. Cheers!
Speaking to Dan Kerins recently, he confirmed that many people can be traced. Has "COYRs1985" taken steps to ensure he cannot be traced ? He might have, he might not.

Also, I believe that it's a matter of context. If you and I have a ding dong battle here and call each other names (Heaven forbid !), it's a direct altercation between two people in a heightened emotional state. Tit for tat, apologies and no harm done. Also, we are anonymous, so it's "Dogfood" calling "ThornhillBloke" names, which does not offend the real people concerned. But COYRs1985 put a string of insults together, in the cold light of day, naming a real, living person, which could be construed as malice.

There is a series of articles on common law on Wiki :

"English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals) in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them."

Paul Sperring has a lot of money, is a self-appointed public figure, and could no doubt afford the best solicitors money could buy to take out a private prosecution in the civil courts, alleging that the combined effect of the character assassinations posted here lost him a million-dollar deal !

I see what you say Georgem, and it was the very matter of namecalling on this forum that set me off doing some research recently. I would agree that amongst the ordinary folk like us, no one could afford the costly risk of losing a case.

I think you're quite right to suggest court action is not likely, but you have to concede it is quite possible.

In my previous post, I ended with :
"All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing."

Georgem says...
11:24pm Wed 22 Aug 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
LOL!!! PAUL IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE SOUTH COAST!! HE'S GOT NOTHING WORTH HAVING! YEA GREAT, MONEY AND WHAT ELSE? HE'S NOT WORTH ANYTHING, JUST A PATHETIC, SMALL MINDED, STUPID, CLUELESS, WORTHLESS SCUM!! FORGET ABOUT HIM! HE'S NOTHING. I KNOW HIM AND KNOW HIM WELL!! THAT'S IT :)
How about some evidence to back up your claims ? Bet you haven't got the nerve, or the lawyers !
Lawyers for what? Take me to caught for telling the truth? What kind of sentence does that hold?
Ignore the silly sod , He is just trying to be smart 99% on here agree with ya .

keep it up coys !!!!
Your post is a "rabble rouser", I am not a "silly sod", and I am not "trying to be smart".

If you make unsubstantiated accusations about someone, you could find yourself paying out a large sum of money as damages for libel.

All we have seen here is semi-coherent heresay and unproven anecdotes.

Print some examples, with dates and times, of Paul's alleged "stupidity", "cluelessness", and "small-mindedness".

For something to be true, it has to be backed up with proveable evidence.

The Echo keep an archive of all posts, and everyone who posts here can be traced. So if you post an accusation or allegation that you cannot back up, you could find yourself paying out a lot of money in court costs and damages if the victim decides to take legal action.

I am not threatening anyone, or trying to make you look foolish. All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing.
With all due respect Billy, you're wrong on a few points here. 1, not everyone who posts here can be traced. Online anonymity is pretty simple to achieve if you want it. Also, merely saying something mean about somebody else, even if untrue, isn't enough to warrant legal action. For example - and although this sounds nit-picky, it's EXACTLY the sort of thing that can make a difference in a defamation case - calling this guy worthless scum is literally not true. He isn't worthless, because he has a lot of money. He isn't literally scum, either, using the actual definition of the word. So those two things are not true, and could not realistically be believed to be true, ergo no defamation has taken place. Fortunately, mere name-calling isn't going to land you a defamation suit, or we'd all be in trouble!

Just to help keep things in perspective. Cheers!
Speaking to Dan Kerins recently, he confirmed that many people can be traced. Has "COYRs1985" taken steps to ensure he cannot be traced ? He might have, he might not.

Also, I believe that it's a matter of context. If you and I have a ding dong battle here and call each other names (Heaven forbid !), it's a direct altercation between two people in a heightened emotional state. Tit for tat, apologies and no harm done. Also, we are anonymous, so it's "Dogfood" calling "ThornhillBloke" names, which does not offend the real people concerned. But COYRs1985 put a string of insults together, in the cold light of day, naming a real, living person, which could be construed as malice.

There is a series of articles on common law on Wiki :

"English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals) in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them."

Paul Sperring has a lot of money, is a self-appointed public figure, and could no doubt afford the best solicitors money could buy to take out a private prosecution in the civil courts, alleging that the combined effect of the character assassinations posted here lost him a million-dollar deal !

I see what you say Georgem, and it was the very matter of namecalling on this forum that set me off doing some research recently. I would agree that amongst the ordinary folk like us, no one could afford the costly risk of losing a case.

I think you're quite right to suggest court action is not likely, but you have to concede it is quite possible.

In my previous post, I ended with :
"All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing."
Yes, people can possibly be traced if they take no steps to cover their tracks, but it's a trivial exercise to make this virtually impossible, if one wishes. I don't bother, personally, on this site, but it's only a couple of clicks of a button away if I want it.

I'm still unconvinced that some mud-slinging on here is going to make any legal waves. Ask yourself this: Do you think any less of Paul, having read some malicious name-calling in the comment section of a local news website? The story itself is probably more likely to damage his reputation, and given his reaction to that, claiming damages would be virtually impossible.

BillyTheKid says...
11:33pm Wed 22 Aug 12

"kiss". I'm asuming you are quite young as you took it for granted Georgem was right, and you fell asleep ( "zzzzzzzz" ) during one of my lectures ! ! ! lol !

Why don't you look up the law on libel, slander, and defamation of character ?

You see, things can take twists and turns you don't expect. Take shoplifting. A mother might leave a store with an item in the pushchair that she had not seen the child take from a shelf. Security detain her, and have her arrested. The police can't tell from the CCTV what the truth is, so they charge her anyway. Four months later, at the commital hearing, the prosecution claim they need more time. The defence lawyer challenges that, and the majistrate discharges the case. The mother was innocent, and the case was dropped, but she still had a police record, they still retained her fingerprints and DNA sample, and a trespass notice banning her for life from all branches of that shop. Is that justice ?

Always proceed with caution. I can't think of the film or the actor, but it opens with him charging through somewhere like a factory, with a girl in tow, with guns and bombs going off. "You're paranoid !" she says "Keeps me alive !" says he !

BillyTheKid says...
12:14am Thu 23 Aug 12

Die Hard 1 or 2

BillyTheKid says...
12:38am Thu 23 Aug 12

Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
COYRs1985 wrote:
LOL!!! PAUL IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE SOUTH COAST!! HE'S GOT NOTHING WORTH HAVING! YEA GREAT, MONEY AND WHAT ELSE? HE'S NOT WORTH ANYTHING, JUST A PATHETIC, SMALL MINDED, STUPID, CLUELESS, WORTHLESS SCUM!! FORGET ABOUT HIM! HE'S NOTHING. I KNOW HIM AND KNOW HIM WELL!! THAT'S IT :)
How about some evidence to back up your claims ? Bet you haven't got the nerve, or the lawyers !
Lawyers for what? Take me to caught for telling the truth? What kind of sentence does that hold?
Ignore the silly sod , He is just trying to be smart 99% on here agree with ya .

keep it up coys !!!!
Your post is a "rabble rouser", I am not a "silly sod", and I am not "trying to be smart".

If you make unsubstantiated accusations about someone, you could find yourself paying out a large sum of money as damages for libel.

All we have seen here is semi-coherent heresay and unproven anecdotes.

Print some examples, with dates and times, of Paul's alleged "stupidity", "cluelessness", and "small-mindedness".

For something to be true, it has to be backed up with proveable evidence.

The Echo keep an archive of all posts, and everyone who posts here can be traced. So if you post an accusation or allegation that you cannot back up, you could find yourself paying out a lot of money in court costs and damages if the victim decides to take legal action.

I am not threatening anyone, or trying to make you look foolish. All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing.
With all due respect Billy, you're wrong on a few points here. 1, not everyone who posts here can be traced. Online anonymity is pretty simple to achieve if you want it. Also, merely saying something mean about somebody else, even if untrue, isn't enough to warrant legal action. For example - and although this sounds nit-picky, it's EXACTLY the sort of thing that can make a difference in a defamation case - calling this guy worthless scum is literally not true. He isn't worthless, because he has a lot of money. He isn't literally scum, either, using the actual definition of the word. So those two things are not true, and could not realistically be believed to be true, ergo no defamation has taken place. Fortunately, mere name-calling isn't going to land you a defamation suit, or we'd all be in trouble!

Just to help keep things in perspective. Cheers!
Speaking to Dan Kerins recently, he confirmed that many people can be traced. Has "COYRs1985" taken steps to ensure he cannot be traced ? He might have, he might not.

Also, I believe that it's a matter of context. If you and I have a ding dong battle here and call each other names (Heaven forbid !), it's a direct altercation between two people in a heightened emotional state. Tit for tat, apologies and no harm done. Also, we are anonymous, so it's "Dogfood" calling "ThornhillBloke" names, which does not offend the real people concerned. But COYRs1985 put a string of insults together, in the cold light of day, naming a real, living person, which could be construed as malice.

There is a series of articles on common law on Wiki :

"English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals) in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them."

Paul Sperring has a lot of money, is a self-appointed public figure, and could no doubt afford the best solicitors money could buy to take out a private prosecution in the civil courts, alleging that the combined effect of the character assassinations posted here lost him a million-dollar deal !

I see what you say Georgem, and it was the very matter of namecalling on this forum that set me off doing some research recently. I would agree that amongst the ordinary folk like us, no one could afford the costly risk of losing a case.

I think you're quite right to suggest court action is not likely, but you have to concede it is quite possible.

In my previous post, I ended with :
"All I am doing is suggesting some of you exercise a bit more caution before you put anything in writing."
Yes, people can possibly be traced if they take no steps to cover their tracks, but it's a trivial exercise to make this virtually impossible, if one wishes. I don't bother, personally, on this site, but it's only a couple of clicks of a button away if I want it.

I'm still unconvinced that some mud-slinging on here is going to make any legal waves. Ask yourself this: Do you think any less of Paul, having read some malicious name-calling in the comment section of a local news website? The story itself is probably more likely to damage his reputation, and given his reaction to that, claiming damages would be virtually impossible.
Dan says they can be traced. Remember the story about the dogs that were run over down Waterside ? A poster named the driver. The police, as far as I know contacted the driver and the person who made the post. Dan says that they know where all posts come from because their system logs the , whats it called, IP address ? Perhaps he has not told me the truth.

I don't know Paul. It's not for me to decide about anything. But I never kick bombs to see if they'll explode.

Paul appears to be an unusual person, perhaps unpredictable. Is why I suggested people tread with caution. It makes more sense to me than saying, "Don't worry it'll probably never happen," even though, as you say, that is the most likely scenario.

Georgem says...
8:01am Thu 23 Aug 12

No disrespect to Dan, Billy, but he's a journalist, not a computer forensics expert. He hasn't lied to you, he just either doesn't fully understand IP networking, or has simplified it for you. Just because he HAS seen someone traced through an IP address, doesn't mean it will ALWAYS work. It's not massively difficult to work around, if you want to.

Even without these workarounds, your success in tracing someone through an IP address can vary. In the scenario you mention, the IP address was used to verify a witness, who by their nature had no interest in covering up what they'd done. If the police had successfully traced THE DRIVER through an IP address, his lawyer would have reason to try and muddy the waters. An IP address is tied to a router or a modem, not necessarily a computer, and certainly not a person. For example, how can you be sure 'Georgem' is always the same person? What if there's three of us, all living in the same house, sharing an internet connection and a user account? There isn't, by the way, but there's no way anyone can be sure. What if my neighbour hasn't secured their WiFi, and I post from their IP address? Again, impossible to prove or disprove. What if I'm posting from a cafe with free WiFi, or simply sat outside someone's house, stealing their poorly-secured WiFi? All perfectly plausible, all make it impossible to be sure who made a post. And this is without using any technology to cover your tracks.

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