Campaign for cemetery boss Jim 'misguided', says Southampton council chief

LONG SERVING: Jim Emery and his wife Lorayne LONG SERVING: Jim Emery and his wife Lorayne

A council chief has today told campaigners fighting to save a long-serving cemetery superintendent from eviction they are “misguided”.

It comes just hours before hundreds are due to march from Hoglands Park to Guildhall Square in support of Jim Emery, 60, who faces the loss of his home at Hollybrook Cemetery after the council axed his job of 26 years to save cash.

But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

“No one is being put out on the street, and we have offered Mr Emery four alternative jobs to avoid redundancy. He turned them down, as is his right, and so is set to walk away on October 5 with a lump sum, a local government pension and a redundancy payment,” he said.

He said the council had offered Mr Emery and his wife an alternative two-bedroom flat in an area they prefered, with room for their dog, Honey.

“Councillors and officers are showing every sensitivity to the Emerys, but the fact is, what they are asking for would be very unfair to others,” he said.

He said Mr Emery had become attached to the “lovely four-bedroom detached house” at Hollybrook Cemetery but always knew the tenancy would end when his job did. The post was axed in February by the previous Tory administration.

Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

“As a council, we need to balance the needs of council staff at risk of redundancy, council tenants and would-be tenants, and tax payers. Mr Emery's supporters don't have the full picture. We cannot ignore our obligations.”

Mr Emery, who looks after the city’s five cemeteries, has appealed to council chiefs to let him stay at Hollybrook Cemetery lodge on a reduced rent until his retirement if he continues to carry out some of his duties unpaid.

A petition of nearly 2,000 names will be handed over to council leaders.

Mr Emery’s plight has attracted a worldwide campaign of support.

He has worked for the council for 42 years, starting out as a grave digger.

Ward councillors and opposition Tories have called for the council to come up with a common sense deal that could let Mr Emery stay at the lodge a few more years.

The council said Mr Emery's job had become redundant due to technological advances, such as computer mapping of graves, and added that grave diggers and other staff had always been on site to help bereaved families and funeral directors.

Comments(54)

andysaints007 says...
11:10am Thu 23 Aug 12

'Ward councillors and opposition Tories have called for the council to come up with a common sense deal that could let Mr Emery stay at the lodge a few more years' !!! - And then what ? He knew the score when he took the job - this is just getting pathetic now

daveetwo says...
11:19am Thu 23 Aug 12

If the protestors are misguided then it seems the council havent communicated thier case very well soon enough.
That is something can put right easily enough.
(apart from being a bit late of course)

HillsidePaul says...
11:49am Thu 23 Aug 12

Cllr Thorpe is quite right. I feel sorry for Mr Emery and the position he finds himself in, but I feel even more sorry for the Family who desperately need a larger home like the one Mr Emery is living in.

mi76 says...
12:01pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Perhaps the Council should employ another Director of Communications on a large salary to get the message across.

Or perhaps the Echo could just stop posting crappy stories with half the facts.

arthur dalyrimple says...
12:05pm Thu 23 Aug 12

evicting loyal servants to the people for monetary gain seems far more misguided but the moral compass of this country disapeared long ago .

southy says...
12:18pm Thu 23 Aug 12

"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.

Linesman says...
12:23pm Thu 23 Aug 12

I was in similar situation when I was in the forces. I was in married quarters. It was accommodation that went with the job, the same as Jim Emery.

knowing that I would have to move out when I left the forces, I saved my money so that I would have a large deposit for a house of my own.

As I understand it, the council have made him an offer of employment and alternative accommodation, which he has turned down.

In my opinion, the council have been extremely fair.

Linesman says...
12:25pm Thu 23 Aug 12

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
evicting loyal servants to the people for monetary gain seems far more misguided but the moral compass of this country disapeared long ago .
He has been offered alternative employment and alternative accommodation. It is not as if he is being turned out on the streets.

bigfella777 says...
12:46pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Should of got himself a mortgage years ago,then he wouldnt be in this position.Get you stuff and clear off.

sarfhamton says...
1:10pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Can i have a 4 bedroom detached house too please?

arthur dalyrimple says...
1:28pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Linesman wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
evicting loyal servants to the people for monetary gain seems far more misguided but the moral compass of this country disapeared long ago .
He has been offered alternative employment and alternative accommodation. It is not as if he is being turned out on the streets.
lets all hope whoever buys the property respects the peace and sancity of the graveyard ,don,t bet on it.

Pinguboy says...
1:31pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Ok, the only people that are being misguided are the people being taken in by this political nonsense.

Mr Emery has been offered 3 jobs, not four. One as a gravedigger, one as a caretaker with carpentry skills, and one as a CCTV Operator.

All of the above come with a job description 'must have experience'.

The council are offering him positions that they know he does not have the experience or skills to do.

As for telling the organisers of this protest that they are being 'misguided' is a flat out lie by Cabinet Minister Thorpe. He had an opportunity to tell me this whilst on the phone yesterday and he had the opportunity to tell me this outside of the BBC Studios this morning........

So, Asa Thorpe has decided to come clean and now state what has brought about this redundancy. Nothing to do with saving money as in the conditions of Jim Emerys redundancy notice. It's all about the house!!!

So why Councillor Thorpe, did you just not offer the Emery's a smaller property because they are under occupied? Why did it take for this to go public amongst mounting pressure for you to come clean?

For the record: If Jim Emery was not 'misguided' or lied to about his redundancy then this would not have the news coverage it rightly deserves.

Our legal team will be looking at every aspect on how this redundancy and eviction has come about.

If you want to go to the Echo and spurt lies about being misguided, then at least have the decency to do it to my face!

Pinguboy says...
1:49pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Just for the record, here is a response by Lorayne Emery that was posted on our facebook page:

Lorayne Emery: If the council wanted our house why did they not just come to us and ask if we would go to a small house. We would have listened to them. They did not need to make Jim redundant. We are not unreasonable people and there would not have been all this trouble and stress. Instead they have used bully boy tactics.

Maine Lobster says...
2:16pm Thu 23 Aug 12

mi76 wrote:
Perhaps the Council should employ another Director of Communications on a large salary to get the message across.

Or perhaps the Echo could just stop posting crappy stories with half the facts.
They would be better off getting rid of the one they've already got!

Des Olated says...
3:34pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Pinguboy wrote:
Just for the record, here is a response by Lorayne Emery that was posted on our facebook page:

Lorayne Emery: If the council wanted our house why did they not just come to us and ask if we would go to a small house. We would have listened to them. They did not need to make Jim redundant. We are not unreasonable people and there would not have been all this trouble and stress. Instead they have used bully boy tactics.
I understand Jim's job is going hence he is being made redundant, albeit with other offers from the council.
I'm afraid the current campaign and refusal to accept the situation as it is does indeed make them seem unreasonable

Pinguboy says...
3:49pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Des Olated wrote:
Pinguboy wrote:
Just for the record, here is a response by Lorayne Emery that was posted on our facebook page:

Lorayne Emery: If the council wanted our house why did they not just come to us and ask if we would go to a small house. We would have listened to them. They did not need to make Jim redundant. We are not unreasonable people and there would not have been all this trouble and stress. Instead they have used bully boy tactics.
I understand Jim's job is going hence he is being made redundant, albeit with other offers from the council.
I'm afraid the current campaign and refusal to accept the situation as it is does indeed make them seem unreasonable
Make who seem unreasonable Des?

TEBOURBA says...
4:00pm Thu 23 Aug 12

May be Jim's love child, Boris Johnson, can get him a job and house in London.

Des Olated says...
4:04pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Pinguboy wrote:
Des Olated wrote:
Pinguboy wrote:
Just for the record, here is a response by Lorayne Emery that was posted on our facebook page:

Lorayne Emery: If the council wanted our house why did they not just come to us and ask if we would go to a small house. We would have listened to them. They did not need to make Jim redundant. We are not unreasonable people and there would not have been all this trouble and stress. Instead they have used bully boy tactics.
I understand Jim's job is going hence he is being made redundant, albeit with other offers from the council.
I'm afraid the current campaign and refusal to accept the situation as it is does indeed make them seem unreasonable
Make who seem unreasonable Des?
From the story as I understand it the Emery's

Des Olated says...
4:08pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Des Olated wrote:
Pinguboy wrote:
Des Olated wrote:
Pinguboy wrote:
Just for the record, here is a response by Lorayne Emery that was posted on our facebook page:

Lorayne Emery: If the council wanted our house why did they not just come to us and ask if we would go to a small house. We would have listened to them. They did not need to make Jim redundant. We are not unreasonable people and there would not have been all this trouble and stress. Instead they have used bully boy tactics.
I understand Jim's job is going hence he is being made redundant, albeit with other offers from the council.
I'm afraid the current campaign and refusal to accept the situation as it is does indeed make them seem unreasonable
Make who seem unreasonable Des?
From the story as I understand it the Emery's
Let me elaborate - anyone who is made redundant (I have been) will no doubt view loss of job as unreasonable & unfair but sadly that's life and we must move on.
What seems unreasonable to me is this fight to overturn a decision made by an employer to lose a position, whether we consider it a "right" decision or not, and then not accept what seem on the face of it pretty generous redundancy terms.

Georgem says...
4:26pm Thu 23 Aug 12

southy wrote:
"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.
Is that what the majority wants? Sources, please, as usual.

commnurse says...
4:46pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.

Shoong says...
5:06pm Thu 23 Aug 12

southy wrote:
"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.
Do they?

I'm assuming as a potential Councillor in Southampton you've done some canvassing on the subject or some research, let's have it then please, I'd be interested to know.

Pinguboy says...
5:23pm Thu 23 Aug 12

commnurse wrote:
Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.
Totally have not read the story.......

Jim Emery was made redundant through budget costs, this is what is legally put on his redundancy papers.

Asa Thorpe has come out and admitted Jim was made redundant as we want his house!!! END OFF!

So why did they not have the balls to approach Mr and Mrs Emery and say 'you are under occupied, we want your house'?

As for Cllr Thorpe being a scapegoat, sometimes you just have to put your brain in gear before opening ones mouth!

So we will see you at the protest then shall we?

DillyMilly says...
5:23pm Thu 23 Aug 12

My husband was made redundant last year at the age of 62. It is a shock and it takes time to get used to the prospect. Unlike your husband there was no other job offer and for a few months it did have the feel of being put on the scrapheap. But a year on we have adjusted and we have reached the opinion that the quality of life we have together has improved considerably without the stresses and strains that work life brings. When you look at all the tragic things that have been happening in the world, children in India foraging on rubbish tips for food, the two children recently drowned i would count your blessings. You and your wife have your health, your family and the offer of alternative accomodation and job offers. Instead of getting yourselves worked up why dont you get positive and embrace the changes. Live in the moment because none of us know what tomorrow may bring.
In these tough times councils and employers have difficult decisions to make and they cannot please all of the people all of the time.

DillyMilly says...
5:32pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Pinguboy wrote:
commnurse wrote: Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.
Totally have not read the story....... Jim Emery was made redundant through budget costs, this is what is legally put on his redundancy papers. Asa Thorpe has come out and admitted Jim was made redundant as we want his house!!! END OFF! So why did they not have the balls to approach Mr and Mrs Emery and say 'you are under occupied, we want your house'? As for Cllr Thorpe being a scapegoat, sometimes you just have to put your brain in gear before opening ones mouth! So we will see you at the protest then shall we?
For a start grammatically its "End of", but I'll let that slide for now.

I have read the story and understand that they want the property, but isn't it better to place a family in that house who can fully utilise it than letting two people stay there, just because it was tied to his job?
The council have to make tough decisions in these tough times and unfortunately Mr Emery is a casualty, but it sounds like it was the previous Tory administration who had already got the ball rolling on this redundancy and I dont see you on here lambasting Royston Smith?

And no, I wont be attending the protest as I have better things to do with my time.

gillyman says...
5:46pm Thu 23 Aug 12

7500 on the waiting list is that people from southampton or from our open borders policy and be honest what family would want to be raised in a graveyard
i think the property would be sold as soon as this drops out of the news

southy says...
5:48pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.
Is that what the majority wants? Sources, please, as usual.
Come on the streets and talk to people, more so just before an elections, people do not want association homes, they want council homes

DillyMilly says...
5:50pm Thu 23 Aug 12

gillyman wrote:
7500 on the waiting list is that people from southampton or from our open borders policy and be honest what family would want to be raised in a graveyard i think the property would be sold as soon as this drops out of the news
If you were cramped in an inadequate property you'd live anywhere there was room. I'd live in a graveyard if it meant I had room for my family.

southy says...
5:55pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.
Do they?

I'm assuming as a potential Councillor in Southampton you've done some canvassing on the subject or some research, let's have it then please, I'd be interested to know.
yes I have and not just me, why don't you come with when cavassing again in 2014

JDBrown says...
5:55pm Thu 23 Aug 12

I was made redundant through cuts after long service and yet got none of what Jim Emery is demanding. Most people don't because we're realistic, not greedy like he is.

His misplaced sense of entitlement is a joke in this age of cuts and austerity - his rent was heavily subsidised for years, he's had offers of redeployment (more than most of us ever got) and he's still demanding more (i.e. the tied accommodation) for the flimsiest of reasons.

He needs to live in the real world and toughen up a bit, instead of relying on other people to run misinformed Facebook campaigns which only tell half the story.

As for this march tonight - why are they turning up at the Guildhall (the gig venue entrance, not the Council office entrance!) at 8pm when there won't be anyone there? Could it be a calculated move to ensure that they can claim umbrage for no one being there to meet them? Anyway, mob rule is hardly appropriate for negotiation.

I can't help but feel that if this story had originally emerged in his favour, say, Jim Emery was made redundant but then allowed to keep tied accommodation by the Council, there would be a lot of the same people who are now supporting him vilifying the Council for profligacy ("Blimey, they give away houses to their own staff! Whatever next?" etc).

Pinguboy says...
6:19pm Thu 23 Aug 12

JDBrown wrote:
I was made redundant through cuts after long service and yet got none of what Jim Emery is demanding. Most people don't because we're realistic, not greedy like he is.

His misplaced sense of entitlement is a joke in this age of cuts and austerity - his rent was heavily subsidised for years, he's had offers of redeployment (more than most of us ever got) and he's still demanding more (i.e. the tied accommodation) for the flimsiest of reasons.

He needs to live in the real world and toughen up a bit, instead of relying on other people to run misinformed Facebook campaigns which only tell half the story.

As for this march tonight - why are they turning up at the Guildhall (the gig venue entrance, not the Council office entrance!) at 8pm when there won't be anyone there? Could it be a calculated move to ensure that they can claim umbrage for no one being there to meet them? Anyway, mob rule is hardly appropriate for negotiation.

I can't help but feel that if this story had originally emerged in his favour, say, Jim Emery was made redundant but then allowed to keep tied accommodation by the Council, there would be a lot of the same people who are now supporting him vilifying the Council for profligacy ("Blimey, they give away houses to their own staff! Whatever next?" etc).
JD.......

Pop up to Hollybrook Cemetery....Knock the lodge door and have a chat with Jim Emery.

Look how the council have turned this wonderful man to be portrayed as a blood sucking greedy man as you have put it.

For your information - Several Councillors have had advance invitations to accept the petition!!

OceansofRed says...
6:27pm Thu 23 Aug 12

I'm sorry but this chap is greedy. He's been offered an alternative flat.

The original excuse was that the dog couldn't go but now it can.

This chap probably thought he was on to a good thing and the council would never sort it out.

Unfortunately times have changed and taxpayers cannot afford to foot the bill anymore.

richieroo says...
8:01pm Thu 23 Aug 12

I'd love to see him try this on if he had worked in the private sector!. If the house went with the job & the job has now gone it's time to leave simple as that. It's not like they've suddenly sprung it upon him is it.

JDBrown says...
8:39pm Thu 23 Aug 12

@Pinguboy: I think Jim Emery is being greedy not because of something the council said, but because of what he and his supporters are demanding.

I'm savvy enough to determine that myself and not have my opinions made for me by council utterances.

He really does want to have his cake and eat it if he thinks he is entitled to a 4 bedroom house just because he wants it.

If he had an ounce of sense, he'd accept the packages offered which go far beyond what he will probably be offered if he tries to hold out.

He's clearly not a wise strategist.....just a silly little man with a fan club who believe whatever they want to.

J.P.M says...
9:26pm Thu 23 Aug 12

andysaints007 wrote:
'Ward councillors and opposition Tories have called for the council to come up with a common sense deal that could let Mr Emery stay at the lodge a few more years' !!! - And then what ? He knew the score when he took the job - this is just getting pathetic now
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Fatty x Ford Worker says...
9:44pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Tied House lost your job now you gotta go mate or stay and get evicted.

Mr Price says...
2:40am Fri 24 Aug 12

Does this mean Eviction notices are going to be served on ALL tenants who live in properties that are bigger than their needs..Otherwise Jim is being treated different than everyone else.

ohec says...
12:13pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Mr Price wrote:
Does this mean Eviction notices are going to be served on ALL tenants who live in properties that are bigger than their needs..Otherwise Jim is being treated different than everyone else.
No Mr Price Jim is being treated differently to everybody else because unlike everybody else Jim's house is tied to the job, so that means as long as he has the job he has the house. NO JOB NO HOUSE
I am sorry if you do not understand but i can't find a simpler way to explain it, as long as other tenants keep to their tenancy agreement they are safe.

J J 007 says...
8:59pm Fri 24 Aug 12

remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters

J J 007 says...
9:00pm Fri 24 Aug 12

remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters

J J 007 says...
9:01pm Fri 24 Aug 12

remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters

J J 007 says...
9:01pm Fri 24 Aug 12

remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters

ohec says...
11:08am Mon 27 Aug 12

J J 007 wrote:
remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters
Not sure what your point is the present Labour council are just continuing with a redundancy that the previous council started so who would you like to hold responsible for Jim's present situation? and as far as your loyalty comment goes there are millions of loyal workers all over the country including our armed forces but i don't see you objecting to them being made redundant.

lisa whitemore says...
12:23am Wed 29 Aug 12

Linesman wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
evicting loyal servants to the people for monetary gain seems far more misguided but the moral compass of this country disapeared long ago .
He has been offered alternative employment and alternative accommodation. It is not as if he is being turned out on the streets.
the alternative jobs have all needed specialist skills that my dad hasnt got. I can apreciate what everyone says but as far as suitable accomodation that has been offered that again is not suitable either. My parents are anything but ungrateful people and would be the first to offer downsizing if that what this is all about. 12 weeks notice in losing a job you had 42 yrs along with a notice of eviction of a family home of 26years! There is a right way to have dealt with this and that unfortunately SCC havnt done. I Have set the campaign up not my parents as i believe with an added insult of 11,000 redundancy is totally unnacceptable. As far as loyalty goes my father has gone well beyond his duty especially the past 26 years whilst living in Hollybrook without ever turning any mourners away from our front door morning,noon and night, never once refused anyone looking for a love ones grave no matter wat day it is........... There will be alot of people who could never understand what the fuss is about, i apreciate that completely but please before judging perhaps look into the matter a little more. Thousands are supporting this as over the years my dads helped so many bereaved families at their darkest times in life... And a little bit of respect from his employers wouldnt have gone a miss.

lisa whitemore says...
2:37am Wed 29 Aug 12

J J 007 wrote:
remember who put these clowns in office,the people can take them out!!!! this is how we treat loyal employee,s now adays its disgusting.well done to all the protesters
thank you

lisa whitemore says...
2:46am Wed 29 Aug 12

southy wrote:
"But Cabinet member for environment Councillor Asa Thorpe said the “whole campaign is misguided”.

Councillor Thorpe the only misguided is you, you can over rule the Tory Council Cuts and job losses.

"Cllr Thorpe added: “His supporters want a special case to be made to allow Mr Emery to stay on at the Lodge, but how are we supposed to explain this to the 7,500 families on our housing list that need a family home?”

You don't explain any thing you do what the majority in this city wants, and that is to build Council Homes and not sale of land to the private sector to build rented homes.
The Council only had to discuss downsizing and my parents would have been too happy to have moved to a smaller property as they are not unrealistic and certainly not greedy in any way or form............Did they really need to 'delete' a job of 42 years just to get this house to which has always been part of Cemeteries posession and has never been previously available to normal Council housing tennants bcause its always been under bereavement services dept......as it is situated inside the cemetery grounds....

lisa whitemore says...
11:27am Wed 29 Aug 12

gillyman wrote:
7500 on the waiting list is that people from southampton or from our open borders policy and be honest what family would want to be raised in a graveyard
i think the property would be sold as soon as this drops out of the news
I actually grew up in Hollybrook Cemetery and Jim is my Dad, and it would be interesting as to what family would be placed here... I was bought up to respect living in a cemetery, if there were funerals happening we knew we couldnt posibly play out in the garden, or make noise in the house as the Office is also a room in the house. People would knock the office or our private front door, needing help to search for loved ones graves.. It is the Bereaved people in Southampton that will lose out here! The Council could have quite easily approached my parents as to downsizing they would have been more than happy to do this but to make a job redundant when it is clearly not, in my opinion is below the belt especially after 42 years of loyalty...

lisa whitemore says...
11:39am Wed 29 Aug 12

HillsidePaul wrote:
Cllr Thorpe is quite right. I feel sorry for Mr Emery and the position he finds himself in, but I feel even more sorry for the Family who desperately need a larger home like the one Mr Emery is living in.
i can totally understand where your coming from but just to clarify.... My parents are anything but greedy and SCC Could have aproached this in a totally different way. Mum n Dad would have been the first to agree to downsizing to let a large family have The Lodge but to make my dad redundant just to get the house is wrong! The Lodge has never been a council property to put anyone off the list, it is a house that came with the job that my dad has spent his whole life doing! to be told few yrs before retirement he had 12 wks to vacate is just ridiculous. We lived there 26 years so there is ALOT to sort out. Never has my parents refused to move, its the way SCC Have done this that is totally wrong and the correct procedures they have seem to have been disregarded by their own.

lisa whitemore says...
11:46am Wed 29 Aug 12

richieroo wrote:
I'd love to see him try this on if he had worked in the private sector!. If the house went with the job & the job has now gone it's time to leave simple as that. It's not like they've suddenly sprung it upon him is it.
yes it has been sprung on them 12 wks notice to move out of our home of 26 years and the job of 42 yrs too..... love to see you do this in such short notice,epecially after being told he would be there til retirement......Movi
ng to dwnsize isnt the problem here as if my parents were aproached and someone explained that they wanted to make this house available to normal tennants they wouldve been more than happy to move.

MoralObligation says...
1:58pm Wed 29 Aug 12

I think it is wrong to call this couple greedy. Possibly naive in thinking that the Council would continue to look after them after such a long time working for them, but they can not be criticised for that. As I said before I do not know these people and there is something I wish to say about my understanding of Mr Emery. Yes, naive, but does nobody else think that he is showing signs of what the UK was once like? Everyone trusted everyone else and did not expect to be treated unfairly. Yes, this house is realistically too big for a couple and their dog, but surely someone from Housing sitting down and explaining this to them, is better than simply making his post redundant so that SCC can get their hands on the house. (if that is indeed the case but the evidence seems to point to that) The guy only has 4 years left to work, and I appreciate that many others have found themselves in this position, but how many others MAY have been made redundant just so their home can be taken off them?

lisa whitemore says...
2:19am Fri 31 Aug 12

commnurse wrote:
Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.
Personally I Think labour leader and The Council are using Cllr Thorpe As A Scapegoat......... come on,they sit behind closed doors leaving inexperienced new kids on the block to be in line of fire.....FACT Commnurse!!!!

lisa whitemore says...
2:27am Fri 31 Aug 12

commnurse wrote:
Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.
im sorry, have you got proof of what you say then?? ummm and you also state the Council are all bending over backwards......reall
y???? and you know this do you i assume you have seen it with your own eyes have you??? well personally think you hae been very misguided commnurse!!

lisa whitemore says...
2:34am Fri 31 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Tied House lost your job now you gotta go mate or stay and get evicted.
the cost to let council go through courts to evict them could get quite costly mmmm now theres a thought........thank you Fatty

gd1703 says...
7:42pm Sat 1 Sep 12

commnurse wrote:
Oh my god!!! Is this boring story still rumbling on... For pity's sake Mr Emery, give it up. You're living in a four bedroom property when it's only your wife and dog. Have some decency and think of all those who have been made redundant and lost their homes, jobs, families and in some cases their lives. You've got the whole council bending over backwards to accomodate you and your apparently fussy job/housing tastes and it's deplorable using Cllr Thorpe as your scapegoat. Your Facebook page is made up of predominantly trolls who enjoy nothing more than abusing and humiliating this councillor who is trying to help you. This campaign is misguided as are you.
Well after what I have seen in today's paper (1/9/12) who's the troll now.....? I think it is DISGUSTING how you think you can talk about the PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON in the way YOU have!!! So we like to show support for the local community thats our choice at the end of the day.
I love the way you can hide and say the the things you are saying but would you have the guts to say what's on your mind to the PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON'S FACES??? As your husband is a public face of Southampton you did not give much thought to your husband job did you?
If you are so fed up reading this story then dont bother no one is making you, maybe you need to get a hobbie or social life.
Something to think about:- Does that make you and your husband CRETINS, INBRED or BIGOT as your part of the Southampton community ???

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