Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis

Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns city expert

Russian meteor would cause "sgnificant" deatsh is it hit earth warns city expert

Russian meteor would cause "sgnificant" deatsh is it hit earth warns city expert

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A similar-sized meteor to the one that exploded in the sky over Russia today would cause ''significant fatalities'' if it hit Earth.

But the 10-ton meteor was ''very small'' comparatively and objects of that size rarely penetrate the ''amazing defence'' of the Earth's atmosphere, according to Hugh Lewis from the University of Southampton.

Despite it not making contact, nearly 1,000 people have been injured after the meteor exploded over Chelyabinsk in the Ural Mountains this morning.

Dramatic amateur video footage showed the meteor streaking across the sky at around 9.20am local time. It caused a bright flash of light and left a white trail of smoke.

The injuries were caused when the meteor, which was travelling at least 54,000 miles per hour, created a sonic boom, according to Tim O'Brien, associate director of the University of Manchester's Jodrell Bank Observatory.

''It made a sonic boom in the atmosphere, and that hit buildings and shattered windows. That is what seems to have caused the injuries,'' he said.

''It's a completely abnormal experience. This thing appeared in the distance, raced over the horizon and was followed up 30 seconds or a minute later by a huge boom as the shockwave hit the ground. I can imagine that would be very frightening.''

Chelyabinsk's health chief, Marina Moskvicheva, said 985 people in her city had asked for medical assistance and 43 had been taken to hospital after the blast which shattered countless windows in the area.

Sergey Hametov, a resident of Chelyabinsk, said: ''There was panic. People had no idea what was happening. Everyone was going around to people's houses to check if they were okay.

''We saw a big burst of light, then went outside to see what it was and we heard a really loud thundering sound.''

Dr Lewis, an astronautics expert at the University of Southampton, said the meteor was ''very small'' at around five metres in diameter.

''Something that size very rarely penetrates through the atmosphere,'' he said.

''The atmosphere provides us with this amazing defence so it results in this amazing fireball and it fragments into smaller objects.''

But if the meteor were more metallic in its make-up, it may have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the Earth, leaving a crater three times its size and causing ''significant fatalities'', he said.

It would cause a ''quite substantial'' blast which would emanate a large amount of heat transferred from the kinetic energy of the meteor.

''You would probably see considerable fatalities if it hit a populated area,'' he said.

Experts said the meteor appeared to be unconnected to an asteroid predicted to narrowly miss the Earth tonight.

The asteroid, named 2012 DA14, is big enough to flatten London and could come as close as 17,200 miles.

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5:53pm Fri 15 Feb 13

bigfella777 says...

So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then. bigfella777
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5:59pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
No problem, I'll just stand behind a fella bigger than me
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote]No problem, I'll just stand behind a fella bigger than me Inform Al
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6:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13

freefinker says...

bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either. freefinker
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6:27pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

If it had been different, and hit a different area, things could have been different. Cutting edge stuff.
If it had been different, and hit a different area, things could have been different. Cutting edge stuff. Stephen J
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6:42pm Fri 15 Feb 13

dango says...

"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap. dango
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6:47pm Fri 15 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

freefinker wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.
But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.[/p][/quote]But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path? IronLady2010
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7:00pm Fri 15 Feb 13

bigfella777 says...

freefinker wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.
What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.[/p][/quote]What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way? bigfella777
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7:02pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Lockssmart says...

If it crashed on Eastleigh, could anyone tell the difference?
If it crashed on Eastleigh, could anyone tell the difference? Lockssmart
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7:05pm Fri 15 Feb 13

skeptik says...

Eastleigh was safe Mrs Meteorite was driving.
Eastleigh was safe Mrs Meteorite was driving. skeptik
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7:19pm Fri 15 Feb 13

freefinker says...

bigfella777 wrote:
freefinker wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.
What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way?
.. then we’d be ‘doomed’, Captain Mainwaring. LOL
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.[/p][/quote]What if it suddenly split in two and one piece came this way?[/p][/quote].. then we’d be ‘doomed’, Captain Mainwaring. LOL freefinker
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7:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13

freefinker says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
freefinker wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.
But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?
.. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.[/p][/quote]But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?[/p][/quote].. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account. freefinker
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8:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

It’s a fairly clear sky so its worth taking a look for the asteroid. Its coming from the east and is expected to be in the vicinity of the plough at around 21:30. The plough is very clear right now and very large in the NE.
It’s a fairly clear sky so its worth taking a look for the asteroid. Its coming from the east and is expected to be in the vicinity of the plough at around 21:30. The plough is very clear right now and very large in the NE. good-gosh
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8:34pm Fri 15 Feb 13

stay local says...

So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?
So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia? stay local
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8:43pm Fri 15 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

stay local wrote:
So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?
It broke up and burned before reaching the surface, although there are likely to be a few fragments that landed and the Russians are having a look for them.
[quote][p][bold]stay local[/bold] wrote: So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?[/p][/quote]It broke up and burned before reaching the surface, although there are likely to be a few fragments that landed and the Russians are having a look for them. good-gosh
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10:16pm Fri 15 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

Possible sighting of 10 seconds – seemed to be moving but view was not long enough to confirm it was moving relative to nearby stars. Cloud prevented longer sighting.
Possible sighting of 10 seconds – seemed to be moving but view was not long enough to confirm it was moving relative to nearby stars. Cloud prevented longer sighting. good-gosh
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10:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13

arthur boutfaith says...

Nice to see Huey Lewis in the news again.
If this is it.
Nice to see Huey Lewis in the news again. If this is it. arthur boutfaith
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10:29pm Fri 15 Feb 13

derek james says...

freefinker wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
freefinker wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.
.. 'if it wanted to'????

It's not conscious, you know.
There’s no steering wheel either.
But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?
.. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account.
more likely to happen than your "realms of fantasy" global warming predictions as captain mainwaring would put it
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: So something that could weigh 1000,s of tonnes, is 17,200 miles away, but could be doing 54,000 miles an hour, so if it wanted to it could hit us in less than 20 minutes. No need to worry at all then.[/p][/quote].. 'if it wanted to'???? It's not conscious, you know. There’s no steering wheel either.[/p][/quote]But what if the earth 'wobbles' into its path?[/p][/quote].. ah, good point, forgot to take that into account.[/p][/quote]more likely to happen than your "realms of fantasy" global warming predictions as captain mainwaring would put it derek james
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10:48pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Ozmosis says...

stay local wrote:
So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?
And left a 6m hole in a frozen lake?
[quote][p][bold]stay local[/bold] wrote: So the Russian meteor would cause damage to the Earth if it hit. Is that like the damage it caused when it hit Russia?[/p][/quote]And left a 6m hole in a frozen lake? Ozmosis
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1:09am Sat 16 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.
[quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.[/p][/quote]Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets. Ginger_cyclist
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1:26am Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.
God forbid one hits a cyclist!
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.[/p][/quote]Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.[/p][/quote]God forbid one hits a cyclist! IronLady2010
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1:57am Sat 16 Feb 13

S!monOn says...

Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!
Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah! S!monOn
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9:09am Sat 16 Feb 13

SOULJACKER says...

dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen.

I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'.
[quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.[/p][/quote]You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen. I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'. SOULJACKER
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10:36am Sat 16 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen.

I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'.
Use AdBlock. No ads on this page for me. :-)

*******************

"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth"

Well, it's a real stroke of good fortune that we have an "atmosphere" then isn't it!
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.[/p][/quote]You are completely right......it just isn't news cause it never was gonna happen. I always thought that if they had a 'no news day' they always think of more annoying adverts to slow the website down & keep telling me about 'cookies'.[/p][/quote]Use AdBlock. No ads on this page for me. :-) ******************* "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth" Well, it's a real stroke of good fortune that we have an "atmosphere" then isn't it! cantthinkofone
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10:45am Sat 16 Feb 13

wossit says...

S!monOn wrote:
Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!
They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ?
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah![/p][/quote]They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ? wossit
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10:59am Sat 16 Feb 13

southy says...

In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about. southy
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11:18am Sat 16 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

wossit wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah!
They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ?
They often contain rare elements if I remember correctly, so the fragments may well be worth a fair few bob.
[quote][p][bold]wossit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: Why are people calling it a “Russian“ meteor? Do they own it? Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? Doo dah doo dah![/p][/quote]They do now wether they like it or not, will this bring down the price in meteor rocks ?[/p][/quote]They often contain rare elements if I remember correctly, so the fragments may well be worth a fair few bob. cantthinkofone
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11:48am Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish. freefinker
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12:10pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

What if it was venom ? Ive sene the film and read the comics... BE WARNED
What if it was venom ? Ive sene the film and read the comics... BE WARNED Subject48
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2:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be. southy
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2:33pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Join two points of data, and claiming it's a pattern? That's just bonkers frankly. Quite funny though.
Join two points of data, and claiming it's a pattern? That's just bonkers frankly. Quite funny though. cantthinkofone
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3:05pm Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars. freefinker
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7:08pm Sat 16 Feb 13

X Old Bill says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
No, nothing new there then!
When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work.
What is an accounter? Does anyone know?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]No, nothing new there then! When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work. What is an accounter? Does anyone know? X Old Bill
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8:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

X Old Bill wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
No, nothing new there then!
When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work.
What is an accounter? Does anyone know?
.. ye don't kno wot a accounter is? oh ah. Praps southy ul esplain.
[quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]No, nothing new there then! When I try to read a Southy comment I find that it helps to imagine it being spoken with a heavy Hampshire accent, unfortunately on this occasion even that does not work. What is an accounter? Does anyone know?[/p][/quote].. ye don't kno wot a accounter is? oh ah. Praps southy ul esplain. freefinker
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8:20pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton! kingnotail
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8:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY!
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote]I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY! IronLady2010
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8:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY!
Believe me, I'm counting down the days now.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote]I don't know Kingtail, you must be the dumb one living in a City you hate! MOVE AWAY![/p][/quote]Believe me, I'm counting down the days now. kingnotail
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8:40pm Sat 16 Feb 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors. southy
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8:42pm Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote].. yep, southy is for real. He believes, amongst other things, that: - Comets are Brown Dwarfs. The Moon causes earthquakes. The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism. 63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18. Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer. Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago. Etc. ad infinitum. freefinker
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9:00pm Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.[/p][/quote].. oh, wow; keep digging. What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet. These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python) What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds. freefinker
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9:11pm Sat 16 Feb 13

freefinker says...

freefinker wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.
.. oh, I forgot this classic: -
Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon.
Incredible, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote].. yep, southy is for real. He believes, amongst other things, that: - Comets are Brown Dwarfs. The Moon causes earthquakes. The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism. 63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18. Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer. Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago. Etc. ad infinitum.[/p][/quote].. oh, I forgot this classic: - Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon. Incredible, isn't it? freefinker
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9:24pm Sat 16 Feb 13

IronLady2010 says...

freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.
.. oh, I forgot this classic: -
Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon.
Incredible, isn't it?
I hope Southy will continue in his new way of saying 'Yep I got it wrong'.

In the meantime I'll pay my Local Council Tax to Central Government!
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote].. yep, southy is for real. He believes, amongst other things, that: - Comets are Brown Dwarfs. The Moon causes earthquakes. The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism. 63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18. Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer. Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago. Etc. ad infinitum.[/p][/quote].. oh, I forgot this classic: - Oxygen can become CO2 without adding carbon. Incredible, isn't it?[/p][/quote]I hope Southy will continue in his new way of saying 'Yep I got it wrong'. In the meantime I'll pay my Local Council Tax to Central Government! IronLady2010
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11:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.
Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.[/p][/quote].. oh, wow; keep digging. What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet. These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python) What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.[/p][/quote]Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another. Ginger_cyclist
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11:26pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dango wrote:
"Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis"

But it's not going to, is it.

Ed; what shall we cover today?
Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen.
Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet?
Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story
Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.
Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.
God forbid one hits a cyclist!
It's possible, people have been hit by tiny ones before or been close to being hit.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: "Russian meteor would cause significant deaths if it hit Earth, warns University of Southampton's Hugh Lewis" But it's not going to, is it. Ed; what shall we cover today? Staff; Let's write a scare story about something that won't happen. Ed; What, didn't we do zombies yet? Staff; Probably, but let's do one about a meteor that won't hit Earth, we can write a 'what if' doom mongering story Ed; Cool, I'll get some scientist to come up with some crap.[/p][/quote]Err, actually we've just had a stupendous amount of luck with meteors, most either burn up or land in unpopulated areas such as the ocean or desert but there have been some meteorites that have plunged through peoples cars and deep into their drives or flown through peoples roofs before bouncing around a room and landing next to filing cabinets.[/p][/quote]God forbid one hits a cyclist![/p][/quote]It's possible, people have been hit by tiny ones before or been close to being hit. Ginger_cyclist
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12:48am Sun 17 Feb 13

freefinker says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.
Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.
.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.[/p][/quote].. oh, wow; keep digging. What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet. These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python) What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.[/p][/quote]Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.[/p][/quote].. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy? Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop. freefinker
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1:48am Sun 17 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

freefinker wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton!
.. yep, southy is for real.

He believes, amongst other things, that: -
Comets are Brown Dwarfs.
The Moon causes earthquakes.
The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism.
63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18.
Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer.
Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago.
Etc. ad infinitum.
Fluoride used for water fluoridation is 'a different kind of fluoride'..
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote]Are you actually for real? No one can actually be this dumb, not even someone from Southampton![/p][/quote].. yep, southy is for real. He believes, amongst other things, that: - Comets are Brown Dwarfs. The Moon causes earthquakes. The Keeling Curve is caused by volcanism. 63% of the population of N Ireland are under 18. Sulphur is the biggest cause of cancer. Atmospheric CO2 is less now than 100 years ago. Etc. ad infinitum.[/p][/quote]Fluoride used for water fluoridation is 'a different kind of fluoride'.. kingnotail
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12:14am Mon 18 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

freefinker wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.
Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.
.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.
More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.[/p][/quote].. oh, wow; keep digging. What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet. These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python) What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.[/p][/quote]Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.[/p][/quote].. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy? Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.[/p][/quote]More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it. Ginger_cyclist
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9:16am Mon 18 Feb 13

freefinker says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor.
I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.
.. no, you're talking rubbish.
And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from.
But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded.
The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from.
And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again.
So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.
.. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries).

Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.
nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore.
Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.
.. oh, wow; keep digging.

What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet.

These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python)

What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.
Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.
.. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy?

Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.
More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it.
Far, far from it.

But you show your ignorance, southy style, when you say things like 'a comet is still technically an asteroid' and 'if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid'.

Like southy, you have read news reports on some of these issues over the years, failed to totally grasp the science behind these reports (if the news item ever made this science clear) and then, years later, have regurgitated and conflated random bits of several stories into one huge incoherent heap of unintelligible rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: In 1908 Russia had an even closer accounter with a metor. I wonder if this accounter is connect to the one in 1908, could be theres an metor shower that has obit that as close accounter every 115 years, that we don#t know about.[/p][/quote].. no, you're talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]And you know this how, not even the experts know where this metor came from. But compare it with the 1908 metor that exploded over Russia like this one did, the one in 1908 exploded closer to the ground it flattened a forest for miles around, luckly no one was around that they know off when it happened only the after effects are recorded. The make of the two are close in size, and what they are made up from. And the only real way to tell is wait for another 115 years to see if it happens again. So rubbish it is not, only a posability it could be.[/p][/quote].. southy, you obviously don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. The 1908 Tunguska event was the result of a meteoroid (or possibly a comet) exploding in the atmosphere. That was the final act of this meteoroid. It can’t come back over 100 years later and repeat the same event; it’s already totally destroyed. The 2013 Chelyabinsk event was, thus, obviously by definition a totally different meteoroid, which also exploded in the atmosphere. These events happen all the time, although granted the 1908 and 2013 events were both large meteoroids by the standards of human life expectancy. You can in no way connect ANY of the meteoroids that explode in our atmosphere with each other (unless they happen within minutes or at the most hours of each other – but certainly not centuries). Where you are getting confused is with shooting stars. These are minute grains of particles that flow from the tails of comets. Often the Earth’s orbit passes through these remnants of a comet tail, giving us regular annual spectaculars.[/p][/quote]nor do you it seems, comets and meteorioids can travel in groups also, even lo we never seen a group of comets but it is possible, but we have seen groups of meteroids traveling together. and there is a big posability that the 1908 and the 2013 could be interlink, these smaller objects are not watch and just lately theres been a number of metors reports, theres been 3 in Canada in the last 4 mths we see one here in the uk not so long ago of the western shore. Metors have orbits to, and it is posible that every so often we pass though group of metors.[/p][/quote].. oh, wow; keep digging. What part of 'these events happen all the time' did you not understand? By 'all the time' I mean just that, from our planetary origins 4.6 billion years ago to the far distant future when our Sun runs out of fuel and becomes a Red Giant that engulfs our small rocky planet. These strikes are VERY infrequently linked, and when they are it results several hits over a period of minutes or hours. Once a meteoroid has entered our atmosphere and exploded it is no more; it's not pining to come back in 105 years, it's passed on. This meteoroid is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late meteoroid. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. (with apologies to Monty Python) What bit of this do you not understand? Your scientific illiteracy seems to know no bounds.[/p][/quote]Actually I'm going to agree with southy on this as it has been found that meteoroids CAN have a "family" created from one larger meteoroid that collided with another and sometimes clusters do get sent flying towards us, southy is also right that meteoroids have an orbit around the sun just like a comet (even though a comet is still technically an asteroid) and these asteroids do sometimes orbit in spread out groups that follow the same orbit and if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid "family" but of course, as you rightly say, the only ones we can be sure of being related are the particles trailing behind stellar bodies such as Hailey's comet but you can also say that such objects are leftovers from when the solar system was formed, also the 1908 meteoroid exploded at around 5 or 6Km above the surface releasing twice the explosive energy as the Tsar nuclear bomb released, the recent meteoroid exploded at around 10 to 15Km above the surface but still releasing about the same amount of energy as the 1908 meteoroid which resulted in a huge sonic shockwave (also known as a sonic boom) that caused injuries through breaking windows that then shattered and fell and no, I'm not saying they ARE the same one, just that they could be parts of a much bigger asteroid that collided with another.[/p][/quote].. are you sure you're not a genetic clone of southy? Total unintelligible rubbish, and with only one full stop.[/p][/quote]More like you don't have the capacity to understand it or learn to understand it.[/p][/quote]Far, far from it. But you show your ignorance, southy style, when you say things like 'a comet is still technically an asteroid' and 'if the composition of a recent meteorite matches closely to that of a much older one then it's quite a safe bet that they were from the same asteroid'. Like southy, you have read news reports on some of these issues over the years, failed to totally grasp the science behind these reports (if the news item ever made this science clear) and then, years later, have regurgitated and conflated random bits of several stories into one huge incoherent heap of unintelligible rubbish. freefinker
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12:11pm Mon 18 Feb 13

X Old Bill says...

By the way - Edmond Halley, the astronomer after whom the famous comet was named, pronounced his name with first syllable as Hall, and maybe Hal, but certainly not as hail.

The only comets named after anyone called Haley (to rhyme with hail) were a rock and roll band of the 1950s.
By the way - Edmond Halley, the astronomer after whom the famous comet was named, pronounced his name with first syllable as Hall, and maybe Hal, but certainly not as hail. The only comets named after anyone called Haley (to rhyme with hail) were a rock and roll band of the 1950s. X Old Bill
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