Supermarket could be built on historic country estate (From Daily Echo)

Noise could be a problem for local people if the supermarket giant keeps saying "Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum".

So long as it is Called "Diana's" No problem.

Looks good! Creation of jobs such as this should be encouraged

How many new supermarkets does Hampshire need- isn't that the third one announced this month (Sainsbury's in Portswood, Morrisons in Soton)?

If these people really fulfilled all of their claims, we'd no longer be a 'nation of shopkeepers' but a 'nation of shelf stockers!'

Broadlands must be in dire need of cash. Tescos will pay handsomely, and their smart lawyers will overcome any obstacles or objections from the local Council.

I wonder if we will ever see his and her lordships in the checkout ques.

Not my patch but the article here looks like it has been copied and pasted almost directly from a joint press release by Tesco and the Estate!

I see from the aerial photos the "development line" for Romsey lies on the bypass. To the north is the town and all the houses, shops etc, so the south is the Estate parkland and the football & cricket clubs - a very pleasant scene indeed.

A Tesco on the site would ruin the vista and set a precedent but I guess that is a matter for the local authority.

I am sure others here will point out however, that we do not owe the Battenbergs/Knatchbu
lls a living. Given Broadlands long history and nationally important owners, it would be good to see the place go to the National Trust

Stillness wrote:
I wonder if we will ever see his and her lordships in the checkout ques.

You wont see his lordship - he naffed orrff to the Caribbean in 2010 "to start a new life"

Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose & a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don't see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing & fund raise. Don't spend £5m on a refit.

Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose & a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don't see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing & fund raise. Don't spend £5m on a refit.

Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!!

Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa,

Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site?

Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Speaking for at least half the local community!!! I didn't see the voting station open for that role.

Romsey doesn't need another supermarket. We have several and people have cars and can go online.

No doubt the council will agree and other bit of green country side will be lost..

If Tesco want to build here then they will. Our planning laws make it impossible for people to object in a meaningful way, and a media which is hopelessly sychophantic towards the supermarkets will do their bit to get public opinion onside.

It does all make me think of that Joni Mitchell song where she complains 'They paved paradise to put up a parking lot'. And whilst this may indeed alleviate congestion on the outskirts of paradise, it will nevertheless be another perfect corner of England gone forever.

*stares wistfully out of window*

Stillness wrote:

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.

Yes, which half Peppa?
If indeed half the town wish to shop at Tesco, and not supporting local businesses in the town - do so and leave the history and beauty of Romsey for the other half to enjoy.
What happens next, Broadlands sell another bit of land, then another bit, then another until eventually the National Trust take over a dilapidated bankrupt house in the middle of a retail park???
In case you were wondering, I am the other half and have every intention of standing in the way of Tesco ruining the town forever.

Site is coloured green on the adopted Local Plan map, so Countryside policies apply, namely:

SET 03:
DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTRYSIDE

Development in the countryside (i.e. outside the boundaries of settlements defined by Policy SET 01 and shown on the Inset Maps) will only be permitted if:
There is an overriding need for it to be located in the countryside; or
It is of a type appropriate in the countryside as set out in Policies SET 06 – 13, ESN 05-09, ESN 11, ESN 13 - 14, ESN 23 -25 and ESN 27 - 33.

Conclusion:
This Echo-printed press release is mere kite flying by Tesco and Broadlands.

Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.

Brock_and_Roll wrote:

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa,

Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site?

Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

Scenic views don't pay the bills.

It's help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.

Pedant wrote:
Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.

The idea in in 1986 was to build a Tesco where the Romsey FC ground is.
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On condition it was built the football club would be offered a new plot of land just outside Romsey and close to Mountbatten School.
.
Whilst the idea has been banded about for for some 26 years no further progress has ever been made.
.
However with the changes at Broadlands i.e. Lord and Lady issues there is every possibility that this will get the green light should it go to full planning or so i understand.
.
As far as it goes the only real land that will be used is the area adjacent to the rogby and football ground that is used for camping the ocassional fairground and the yearly visit of the circus.... so no great loss

Over the Edge wrote:

Brock_and_Roll wrote:

Peppa33 wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

Scenic views don't pay the bills. It's help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.

Study after study has shown supermarkets cost more jobs in the local community than they create.

What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

'Forced to work'.

How traumatic for them.

Vix1 wrote:
Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!!

Tesco in Shirley where abouts is that one unless your on about the small Tesco Express shop.

Shoong wrote:

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

'Forced to work'.

How traumatic for them.

And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate. Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

I'm sure waitrose aren't worried. I don't think they'll notice. Waitrose shoppers will always shop there over tesco. The few that want a slightly cheaper and poorer quality shop will continue to use Aldi and the new tesco.
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What makes me laugh (I've heard this from a few people so not a crazy story!) is that people in Romsey who say that waitrose is 'posh' and 'expensive' will quite happily drive to either Morrisons in west Totton or Sainsbury's in Lordshill to save a few quid. By the time you calculate fuel costs, time and effort there is probably only a marginal difference.
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The same people who drive 10 miles to a cheaper petrol station to save 1p per litre!! fools!

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

'Forced to work'. How traumatic for them.

And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.

I didn't know that. Cheers. The whole scheme is ludicrous - Tesco gets free labour and people who actually want jobs can't get them.

Perhaps Lady B and Richard Jordan-Baker are at this very moment sat with their teams of financial investment consultants making plans for the rest of Broadlands Estate.
With 4,500 acres available they could create Battenburg Retail Park which could be in direct competition with Hedge End, or The Knatchbull Centre to compete with West Quay, and all with free extensive car parks. It would take all that hassle of travelling into Southampton with its extortionate parking charges and accompanying pollution and gridlock.
Another area could be allocated for car boot, all open seven days week.
They may be willing to contribute towards new infrastructure, in the way of an extension of the M271 a couple of miles northwards from the roundabout at Romsey golf course, and through their estate.

This should help devalue the Romsey area nicely, loads more imported Chinese junk flogged off cheap, and jobs probably to be filled by immigrants. more traffic, all for money, money money! don't care anymore!

St Retford wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

'Forced to work'. How traumatic for them.

And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.

I didn't know that. Cheers. The whole scheme is ludicrous - Tesco gets free labour and people who actually want jobs can't get them.

I only learned about 2 days ago, just done a quick check its in Derbyshire not Manchester.
It was on radio 5 live, the Youth fight for jobs are taking the matter up.

I'm not sure it should be the evil people known as Tesco who are intent on world domination, but I am sure the people of Romsey will joint together to resist any part of Broadlands being developed.

But the facts are simple. The estate is in private ownership and the cost of of maintaining such properties is enormous. There may be grants available from English Heritage, but these are often small in comparison to the work required.

Lord Romsey may live in a mansion, but that does not mean he has ready cash and has to raise capital or risk selling the estate to non-British billionnaires. What would the people of Romsey prefer? Tesco's or foreigners?

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people.

There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people.

There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people.

There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

HATE Tesco
will do all I can to help stop this
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The greengrocer, butcher, chemists, baker, toy shop and others will close if Tesco and their predatory pricing are allowed into Romsey.

southy wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote:
What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people.

There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter.

The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.

Housewife, give people what they want. If they wanted small shops instead of multiples then it would be an area where small shops prospered.
You must be very rich. prices in Tesco are 15 times lower than 150 years ago relative to wages ( The Grocer mag).
Tesco's and other multiples have helped the average person have a better standard of living. It is one of the UK 's success stories employing around 500,000 world wide, don't knock a UK success.In future we will need successes like TESCO if we want to survive and prosper as a country.

Over the Edge wrote:

southy wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.

Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?

St Retford wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

southy wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.

Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?

I think that you will also find is that the young person involved was a Uni student who could not get a job so she did voluntary work for three days a week in a museum hoping that she would gain more experience in this field.
.
She was the forced to give up her volutary job to "earn" her dole working for Poundland

St Retford wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

southy wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.

Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?

I know, it's all about CaMoron and Cleggs attack on the unemployed, making themselves look good.

Yes we have scroungers who bleed the benefits dry, however not all people are doing this.

It's about the Tories offering free labour for their friends in the business world, not one employer will offer these people paid employment all the time they can it for free.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Pedant wrote:
Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.

The idea in in 1986 was to build a Tesco where the Romsey FC ground is.
.
On condition it was built the football club would be offered a new plot of land just outside Romsey and close to Mountbatten School.
.
Whilst the idea has been banded about for for some 26 years no further progress has ever been made.
.
However with the changes at Broadlands i.e. Lord and Lady issues there is every possibility that this will get the green light should it go to full planning or so i understand.
.
As far as it goes the only real land that will be used is the area adjacent to the rogby and football ground that is used for camping the ocassional fairground and the yearly visit of the circus.... so no great loss

No fairground or circus! I hope Tesco sell clothes pegs then.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

southy wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

St Retford wrote: What's more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won't actually be proper jobs at all.

This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business's to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.

I don't know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.

It might be.

Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.

Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?

I think that you will also find is that the young person involved was a Uni student who could not get a job so she did voluntary work for three days a week in a museum hoping that she would gain more experience in this field.
.
She was the forced to give up her volutary job to "earn" her dole working for Poundland

Sounds like what I heard, disgusting abuse of someone by a Government who couldn't care less.

aldermoorboy wrote:
Housewife, give people what they want. If they wanted small shops instead of multiples then it would be an area where small shops prospered. You must be very rich. prices in Tesco are 15 times lower than 150 years ago relative to wages ( The Grocer mag). Tesco's and other multiples have helped the average person have a better standard of living. It is one of the UK 's success stories employing around 500,000 world wide, don't knock a UK success.In future we will need successes like TESCO if we want to survive and prosper as a country.

I'm with @Housewife... Tesco are dispicable and are totally responsible for the downgradng of the quality of food and animal welfare conditions in this country.
It's exactly what Romsey doesn't need.

I am all for it. Romsey has become a tiny backwater, solely for the rich. Open it up and bring it on Tesco. The locals will fight it all the way, but it will be in vain.....

Death knell for the town

Brock_and_Roll wrote:

Peppa33 wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

You can't eat a historic view

Huffter wrote:

Brock_and_Roll wrote:

Peppa33 wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

You can't eat a historic view

But you could grow food on it.

IanRRR wrote:
I am all for it. Romsey has become a tiny backwater, solely for the rich. Open it up and bring it on Tesco. The locals will fight it all the way, but it will be in vain.....

I agree,do you peasants realise how difficult it is to park ones' Bentley in Rumsey at the mo,with Tesco's free car park,one can access the town easier. Phnaaa!!

Vix1 wrote:
Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!!

Do you mean the Tesco store in Millbrook or the Sainsbury's store in Shirley?

I don't live in Romsey but please take a step back look at what the Barker Mills estate has done over the years in the Southampton area.
Rumour had it one of them needed some cash for a divorce settlement & hey presto lets build some much needed homes in Redbridge Lane Nursling end put in some affordable houses & we're doing it for Nursling.
Then we'll knock down 8-10 homes in Redbridge Lane do away with a lot of farm land & sell the land to Lidls for a massive Warehouse which will bring 400 jobs.
What starts of as a small area ( 4 acres) could become a much larger part of that estate so beware & if it's what you want fine it has nothing to do with me as I live in Southampton( ex Barker Mills land) Lordshill

lukolela wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.

Yes, which half Peppa?
If indeed half the town wish to shop at Tesco, and not supporting local businesses in the town - do so and leave the history and beauty of Romsey for the other half to enjoy.
What happens next, Broadlands sell another bit of land, then another bit, then another until eventually the National Trust take over a dilapidated bankrupt house in the middle of a retail park???
In case you were wondering, I am the other half and have every intention of standing in the way of Tesco ruining the town forever.

Well the other half always seems to win in Romsey so I guess it won't go ahead.
I sometimes wonder how the other half would live if they had to count EVERY penny like we do!!!

Well the other half always seems to win in Romsey so I guess it won't go ahead.
I sometimes wonder how the other half would live if they had to count EVERY penny like we do!!!

Never mind the local businesses! If I can get everything I need under one roof, with discounts and loyalty schemes, then that is better. The time of little high street shops is over.

Never mind the local businesses! If I can get everything I need under one roof, with discounts and loyalty schemes, then that is better. The time of little high street shops is over.

Stillness wrote:

Huffter wrote:

Brock_and_Roll wrote:

Peppa33 wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket...the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever - my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.

You can't eat a historic view

But you could grow food on it.

Yes and then sell it at horrendous prices !!!

This is not good news. First of all my grandparents used to live in one of those six houses that will be pulled down, I will no longer be able to say to my kids 'Thats where so and so used to live' etc.

Traffic will be increased along that road, not good of there is the Romsey show on or if a lot of people want to play crazy golf next to the Rapids.

My biggest fear is for the small independent retailers in the town centre, Drummonds sale the best sausages in he world. There is already a very good bakery in the town also and regular markets, so no need for a Tesco it will devalue the town.

However I fear for the future of Broadlands, his lordship now living away in the sun, has Nicholas over come his demons yet to be ale to take on the estate and make the best of it.

This is not good news. First of all my grandparents used to live in one of those six houses that will be pulled down, I will no longer be able to say to my kids 'Thats where so and so used to live' etc.

Traffic will be increased along that road, not good of there is the Romsey show on or if a lot of people want to play crazy golf next to the Rapids.

My biggest fear is for the small independent retailers in the town centre, Drummonds sale the best sausages in he world. There is already a very good bakery in the town also and regular markets, so no need for a Tesco it will devalue the town.

However I fear for the future of Broadlands, his lordship now living away in the sun, has Nicholas over come his demons yet to be ale to take on the estate and make the best of it.

This is not good news. First of all my grandparents used to live in one of those six houses that will be pulled down, I will no longer be able to say to my kids 'Thats where so and so used to live' etc.

Traffic will be increased along that road, not good of there is the Romsey show on or if a lot of people want to play crazy golf next to the Rapids.

My biggest fear is for the small independent retailers in the town centre, Drummonds sale the best sausages in he world. There is already a very good bakery in the town also and regular markets, so no need for a Tesco it will devalue the town.

However I fear for the future of Broadlands, his lordship now living away in the sun, has Nicholas over come his demons yet to be ale to take on the estate and make the best of it.

This is not good news. First of all my grandparents used to live in one of those six houses that will be pulled down, I will no longer be able to say to my kids 'Thats where so and so used to live' etc.

Traffic will be increased along that road, not good of there is the Romsey show on or if a lot of people want to play crazy golf next to the Rapids.

My biggest fear is for the small independent retailers in the town centre, Drummonds sale the best sausages in he world. There is already a very good bakery in the town also and regular markets, so no need for a Tesco it will devalue the town.

However I fear for the future of Broadlands, his lordship now living away in the sun, has Nicholas over come his demons yet to be ale to take on the estate and make the best of it.

Brusher Mills wrote:
This is not good news. First of all my grandparents used to live in one of those six houses that will be pulled down, I will no longer be able to say to my kids 'Thats where so and so used to live' etc.

Traffic will be increased along that road, not good of there is the Romsey show on or if a lot of people want to play crazy golf next to the Rapids.

My biggest fear is for the small independent retailers in the town centre, Drummonds sale the best sausages in he world. There is already a very good bakery in the town also and regular markets, so no need for a Tesco it will devalue the town.

However I fear for the future of Broadlands, his lordship now living away in the sun, has Nicholas over come his demons yet to be ale to take on the estate and make the best of it.

You can point to some other house and say "that's where so and so used to live". Or you could just move on. As to the sausages make your own. I promise they will be the best you have ever tasted even if they come out c**p.

555Luke wrote:
Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose & a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don't see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing & fund raise. Don't spend £5m on a refit.

Totally agree! Tesco's take over the world, I wish the planners would stop lining their pockets and look at he impact to independant shop keepers. Tescos not only impact them but also farmers and other food dealers as they force the prices down from them to increase the already full pockets of profits.
Wrong wrong wrong, we do not need any more supermarkets taking over this country. It may LOOK like you gain jobs but others loose theirs

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

Hello Tesco stakeholder!!

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

Hello Tesco stakeholder!!

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

Hello Tesco stakeholder!!

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.

Hello Tesco shareholder!

Suziwoo wrote:

555Luke wrote:
Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose & a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don't see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing & fund raise. Don't spend £5m on a refit.

Totally agree! Tesco's take over the world, I wish the planners would stop lining their pockets and look at he impact to independant shop keepers. Tescos not only impact them but also farmers and other food dealers as they force the prices down from them to increase the already full pockets of profits.
Wrong wrong wrong, we do not need any more supermarkets taking over this country. It may LOOK like you gain jobs but others loose theirs

Just do what you can to NOT spend with the supermarkets. Start by growing a few spuds in a bucket. I promise it will put a smile on your face for many reasons not least the knowledge that Tesco's will be wondering why you have stopped buying your spuds from them.

I was in Romsey this morning it does not need a Tesco's.
Its nice to have a town full of independent shops not empty shells and charity shops.

Brusher Mills wrote:
I was in Romsey this morning it does not need a Tesco's.
Its nice to have a town full of independent shops not empty shells and charity shops.

That's a very charitable view Brusher.

lukolela wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn't even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I'm sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children's clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds 'posh' food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the 'normal' people for a change !!!!!!!!

Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.

Yes, which half Peppa?
If indeed half the town wish to shop at Tesco, and not supporting local businesses in the town - do so and leave the history and beauty of Romsey for the other half to enjoy.
What happens next, Broadlands sell another bit of land, then another bit, then another until eventually the National Trust take over a dilapidated bankrupt house in the middle of a retail park???
In case you were wondering, I am the other half and have every intention of standing in the way of Tesco ruining the town forever.

I couldn't agree more. Broadlands is a national treasure and needs to be kept as such. Don't ruin the grounds with retail premises.

Listen, all you n.i.m.b.y, moaning mickeys and minnies, it could have been much worse - it could have been ASDA! .

Brusher Mills wrote:
I was in Romsey this morning it does not need a Tesco's. Its nice to have a town full of independent shops not empty shells and charity shops.

Oi, Snake tickler! Leave the charity shops alone! They're me main scource of affordable books, I'll 'ave ee know!

"Broadlands and Tesco point to a recent shopping survey, carried out on behalf of TVBC by the University of Southampton, showing that almost 40 per cent of those living within five minutes of the town centre did their food shopping outside Romsey"

So that means 60% do their shopping in Romsey.Pretty good I'd say. What will it be if Tesco's arrives? It's obvious to me that Romsey doesn't need a Tesco.

Home Rule for England wrote:
"Broadlands and Tesco point to a recent shopping survey, carried out on behalf of TVBC by the University of Southampton, showing that almost 40 per cent of those living within five minutes of the town centre did their food shopping outside Romsey"

So that means 60% do their shopping in Romsey.Pretty good I'd say. What will it be if Tesco's arrives? It's obvious to me that Romsey doesn't need a Tesco.

What will it be if Tesco's arrives you ask. I'll tell you.They'll be turning on their heels as soon as they compare the prices with Waitrose , unless they are too snobbish to be seen shopping elsewhere.

Romsey does not need a Tesco's and if it comes it will kill all the little shops .....GOOD.!
Then perhaps they will all own up to the fact that they have been overcharging for posh stuff for so long, and if they are so called specialists then they will continue.
The butcher with his "best in the world" sausages will still be selling them if they are better than Tesco's because his posh customers will not use Tesco will they ?

Well i was born and bred in Romsey and have seen many changes over the years some good and some bad. Personally i agree with a lot of what Peppe33 and Ian rrr have said in their posts. Yes granted Romsey is a lovely quaint little market town and theirs not a lot i would like to see changed about it's appearance. On the other hand Romsey really does need something done about the choice of shops. On my last count i believe we have 22 hairdressers (that's probably more than most cities have). There are now X amount of charity shops and estate agents. Ok Romsey is meant to be known as posh and where upper class live but there are many more middle or even lower class that live here too, what about US?? I have to admit i rarely go into Romsey for shopping, i have never done a main shop in Waitrose and i haven't set foot in there for a good 5 years or more. I do go out of town either to Eastleigh, Totton, Winchester or occasionally Salisbury as not only for food shopping but for clothes, house-hold items and anything like CD's DVD's game console games as there is no-where in Romsey that sells these last 3 items i have just mentioned. Personally i have spoke and heard so many people complaining about how little Romsey has to offer and the prices so don't know how on earth that survey turned out with those results that really does surprise me. Like Peppa33 said the other half will win and not let this go ahead as this is usually the case as it seems certain people have a monopoly over Romsey and will only allow certain shops that suits them. Romsey should take a look at other market towns that have come on leaps and bounds with their choice of shops, Ringwood, Andover, Wimborne, Christchurch and Lymington and they all have a far better markets that's worth travelling for and making a good day out. Also most towns that once had a Woolworths have now got a Pound Shop what did Romsey get another Co Op making at the time 5 Co op in the area. I do however think that maybe the choosen site isn't altogether the best choice, but then again neither was Waitrose and that went ahead and look at the traffic congestion that has created and that was one of the concerns at the beginning and got ignored. I'm all for a Tesco's or any other reasonable price supermarket to come to Romsey at least we will have an affordable choice.