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    Dan Soton wrote:
    Andy Locks Heath wrote:
    Dan Soton wrote:
    Dan Soton wrote:
    Green hogs wash.

    I couldn't agree more, the whole project is bogus.

    Helius a loss making company with a market cap of £19.22m purposes to build a £300m power station, I wouldn't give them the job demolishing it.
    Bogus green hogs wash.


    Has loss making Helius secured a one, two or ten year supply of wood ?


    Think of Fawley Oil Refinery in 10 years and read on ...


    biomass power companies face increasing competition for wood from oil companies producing biofuels

    Biomass energy set to double in EU by 2020.
    11 May 2012.
    In most countries, biomass will serve only local markets, because it is uneconomic to move it more than 150km by road, and he warned that power companies are likely to face increasing competition for wood from oil companies producing biofuels.
    Wood “will become an increasingly scarce and valuable resource, in high demand not only from traditional users but also from energy companies, industrialists switching to green energy and producers of emerging bio-based products,” said FVIM’s other co-managing director Paul Delesenne.

    This is what you get when you release a bunch of amateurs loose on the internet and call it "research". I would not expect this unsubstantiated misconstrued regurgitated nonsense at GCSE level, but when it is supported by councillors rather than checked and corrected then I wonder what made some of these councillors stand for office in the first place. Almost all the content of the above letter is drivel and it is clear Richard Williams knows as much about power generation as some of the above posters understand about business.
    Bravo.. I award you a GCSE A* for your rhetorical frippery


    if it's not too much to ask.. a few lines on why you support Helius ?
    Dan, I don't "support" Helius - I don't care which company gets the capital to build the plant - but I am strongly in favour of balanced guaranteed power generation. We rely on thermal for the bulk of our supply - if we want to phase out coal we need a new generation of small quick reaction thermal stations using other thermal feedstock fuels that can be used to backup The Green's precious renewable supplies when they do not deliver. If you want wave wind and sun you must also have biomass, gas and nuclear. Woodchip is by far the most sensible thermal fuel - it is fairly cheap - a lot of it is by product from other processes, a lot of it can be sourced in the UK (eventually)and we will raise domestic supply to meet demand (in 25 years). As for the location, when all those houses were built in Foundry Lane there was a coal power station up the road belching hydrocarbons nitrous oxides and sulphuric acids where Toys R Us is today at a far higher rate than this new station will do. Nobody died then and nobody will die now. Flue gases are scrubbed to remove heavy particulates and light gaseous emissions do not pollute the immediate neighbourhood as anyone with eyes in their head should know without needing to be told. The location in a port is ideal for initial import of fuel stock and road and rail links for future domestic supplies. The plant will produce steam which I agree is a problem as it is not being used for local CHP but it will produce very little smoke and it will not pollute the immediate environment. People in East Anglia have more to worry about than those in Freemantle. I won't bore you with timber production or power generation stats but these have been misunderstood and misquoted by Freefinker, Freemantle Girl and other armchair experts."
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Incoming council leader calls £300m power station plans a 'green wash'

First published in Environment Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

Southampton’S incoming council leader has dubbed new designs for a £300m power station in Southampton a “green wash”.

Helius Energy went back to the drawing board after its previous plans for a 100 megawatt wood-fuelled power station in the western docks sparked outrage.

The Daily Echo yesterday revealed the new plans released ahead of a 12-week consultation period during which the company hopes to win people round.

The revised plans would see it moved back a further 125m, its height reduced and three new possible designs, while the chimney stack has also been increased to 100m to avoid air pollution in the local area.

However, Councillor Richard Williams, leader of the Labour group, which opposed the plans in its manifesto, said he was not impressed.

He said: “It is cosmetic and does not change the underlying rationale of the development. It is environmentally wrong, it’s socially wrong and it’s a purely opportunistic development.”

Tory counterpart Councillor Royston Smith, who will tomorrow hand over the reins of power to Cllr Williams, said the designs would not go far enough to put residents’ minds at rest.

He said: “It is still huge and you can’t have this great big monstrosity that would sit at the end of Foundry Lane. There are still concerns about the pollution levels.”

Last year the plan sparked outrage from residents living in Freemantle and Shirley, who feared the impact of fumes and noise on their health and the effect it would have on property prices.

No Southampton Biomass campaigner Eloisa Gil-Arranz said the fundamental concerns remain.

She said: “They have put it in a much better outfit and cosmetically lifted it, but effectively the proposal is not changed. It’s still a huge power station.

“They have effectively moved it two football pitches away from people’s homes. The thing I find really disappointing is the way they are promoting it. They are manipulating us, asking which of the three designs we like best. But they have lost touch with the fact that we don’t want a power station.”

Helius Energy planning director Paul Brighton said he hoped to thoroughly explain the new plans over the next 12 weeks. He said: “While the company acknowledges the concerns expressed by some local residents, the environmental studies that have been undertaken by independent consultants indicate the scheme would have a negligible impact on local air quality, noise and traffic.

“Our intention is that this will be a landmark feature for Southampton and we hope the local community will contribute to the decision about which design will be taken forward.”

Helius said the new-look plant would have less impact and would win the city 450 construction jobs and 40 others at the plant.

Mr Brighton added: “It is important to remember the need to address the growing issue of climate change and renewable energy projects like this will make a significant contribution.”

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