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Return of the Woolston Ferry
FOR 140 years it was a convenient way to cross the River Itchen from Woolston. Generations made the journey aboard the floating bridge that carried cars and pedestrians across the water.
Yet the service came to an end in 1977 when the newly opened Itchen Bridge offered a quicker route.
Now £500m plans for the redevelopment of the former Vosper Thornycroft shipyard have raised the prospect of a return of an old-fashioned solution to combat predicted the traffic nightmare.
As revealed in the Daily Echo, the plans for 1,653 homes could attract about 3,000 new residents by 2020.
It would give rise to a huge increase in traffic which will create city-bound queues of more than 1,150 cars across the Itchen Bridge, including 200 from the new development, if nothing is done.
Developer Crest Nicholson has already said it is exploring the possibility of funding a water taxi to carry residents to both Ocean Village and Town Quay.
The development will include a new pontoon and space for car parking which could support a water taxi service "subject to commercial testing and impact analysis", a spokesman said.
But could the Woolston Ferry make a comeback? Jack Candy, from the City of Southampton Society, was an apprentice toolmaker at the Supermarine factory in Woolston for ten years in the 1930s.
The steam powered Woolston Ferry, or floating bridge, which used chains to draw itself over the Itchen, was a daily pleasure for him.
"It was great fun, he said. "I used to take my children across and often used it to cross to work in Woolston. It was very popular."
However, Mr Candy said that while the ferry should be remembered, it was unlikely to return.
"It would be interesting to see again but I don't think a car ferry across the river would be practical now."
One of the key movers behind the Itchen Bridge also dismissed the idea of a car ferry as too slow and impractical to cope with the amount of traffic it would face.
Former councillor Alan Reynard, who was chairman of the Itchen Bridge Committee, said: "It sounds nice in principle but I don't think its practical."
He added: "A water taxi would provide a service for some but it also wouldn't solve the problem. It's just applying a coat of paint to cover a sore."
Mr Reynard, who oversaw the building of £12m Itchen Bridge, said dedicated bus lanes on the bridge had been discussed at the time but rejected on cost grounds. Finances would probably rule out any bridge improvement today as well, he said.
He said: "The only option available will be road widening. I don't think there is an insolveable problem on the Southampton side.
"But 20 years down the line and the whole of Portsmouth Road will be under threat.
"The congestion will be so great the only alternative will be to widen the road and demolish properties."
Developers are planing less radical steps.
Two bus routes, 17 and 17A, will be redirected through the site, branded Centenary Quay, and residents will be offered interest-free loan for season tickets.
Car sharing and bicycle schemes will be encouraged with cycle routes along the waterfront and almost 1,900 spaces for cycle parking.
A park-and-ride at Windhover, at the A3024 junction of the A27, will be investigated.
Funding will also be provided for junction improvements along Portsmouth Road, improvements to the capacity of the tollbooths at the Itchen Bridge, and the introduction of a circular traffic system around Woolston town centre.
Further contributions will be made to introduce traffic calming at various locations, including Obelisk Road, John's Road, and Peartree Avenue, and to provide a puffin crossing at the Itchen Bridge.
A new road through the site will allow a 10mph speed limit to be introduced along Victoria Road.
Professor John Preston, a transport expert at the University of Southampton, said much rested on the decisions of new residents over the use of alternatives to cars but that it was essential that there were cycle routes right across to the city.
Mr Preston said infrastructure problems would hamper a new car ferry and also ruled out bridge improvements.
The simple solution, say residents who are preparing a detailed objection, is not to cram in so many homes.
The full plans can be viewed at the city council. The deadline for objections is May 16.
What do you think? Email newsdesk@dailyecho.co.uk.
10:34am Saturday 19th April 2008
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CommentPosted by: TGR, SOuthampton on 12:23pm Sat 19 Apr 08
The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.
The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.
Posted by: sammy, soton on 2:25pm Sat 19 Apr 08
any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.
any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.
Posted by: sotonian, southampton on 2:32pm Sat 19 Apr 08
I used to cross the river every day on the floating bridge. If it was foggy it seemed quite surreal if the bridge was midstream, you couldn't see anything.
crossing the river on the floating bridge saved me a lot of time and gave me a welcome rest as I cyccled
I used to cross the river every day on the floating bridge. If it was foggy it seemed quite surreal if the bridge was midstream, you couldn't see anything.
crossing the river on the floating bridge saved me a lot of time and gave me a welcome rest as I cyccled
Posted by: Allison, Bassett on 4:06pm Sat 19 Apr 08
[quote][bold]sammy[/bold] wrote:
any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.[/quote] Floaters???
Ah, what a memory :)
sammy wrote:
any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.
Floaters???
Ah, what a memory :)
Posted by: sammy, soton on 6:23pm Sat 19 Apr 08
those weer the days allison werent they? when you could go out and have a good night out with out no hassle. it used to be peddle pushers and sweat shirts, sinband belts for the girls, and the men were in to crombie coats and the pork pie hats, i think thats what they were called? im showing my age now, but would love to go back to that era.
those weer the days allison werent they? when you could go out and have a good night out with out no hassle. it used to be peddle pushers and sweat shirts, sinband belts for the girls, and the men were in to crombie coats and the pork pie hats, i think thats what they were called? im showing my age now, but would love to go back to that era.
Posted by: i know best, dorset on 5:41pm Sun 20 Apr 08
it would be very dangerous for people that jump off the itchen bridge as if they hit the floating bridge they could hurt them selves
it would be very dangerous for people that jump off the itchen bridge as if they hit the floating bridge they could hurt them selves
Posted by: Alex Turner, Woolston, Southampton on 7:14pm Sun 20 Apr 08
Was the floating bridge in the same place that the itchen bridge is now?
Or was it further down near were they are [bold]planning[/bold] on re-building it?
Was the floating bridge in the same place that the itchen bridge is now?
Or was it further down near were they are
planning on re-building it?
Posted by: Tony, Sholing on 9:02pm Sun 20 Apr 08
They have a floating bridge in Cowes but, let's face it, they have a fraction of the traffic that we have here! The tourists would love it though.[italic]italic[/italic]
They have a floating bridge in Cowes but, let's face it, they have a fraction of the traffic that we have here! The tourists would love it though.
Posted by: Darren, Far North QLD on 3:42am Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Allison[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sammy[/bold] wrote: any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.[/quote] Floaters??? Ah, what a memory :)[/quote] Time warp.
i probably danced with with you, you probably told me to sod off, lol
great times, great place,great Era. a must in lifes little journey
Allison wrote:
sammy wrote: any one remember when it used to be floaters? i think it was on a monday night? im not too sure but what fun was had there.
Floaters??? Ah, what a memory :)
Time warp.
i probably danced with with you, you probably told me to sod off, lol
great times, great place,great Era. a must in lifes little journey
Posted by: Mr E, EAstleigh on 9:29am Mon 21 Apr 08
once again the car haters plan to wreak havok on an area
by trafic calming sideroads to a standstill and doing nothign to update the main roads
im just glad I dont live in woolston any more
PS Try cycleing over the Itchen bridge, into the wind on wet cold and dark december day. You will soon decide for yourself that its simply not a viable aletrnative
once again the car haters plan to wreak havok on an area
by trafic calming sideroads to a standstill and doing nothign to update the main roads
im just glad I dont live in woolston any more
PS Try cycleing over the Itchen bridge, into the wind on wet cold and dark december day. You will soon decide for yourself that its simply not a viable aletrnative
Posted by: Woolston Resident, Woolston on 10:44am Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]TGR[/bold] wrote:
The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.[/quote] I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....
TGR wrote:
The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.
I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....
Posted by: vicky on 2:21pm Mon 21 Apr 08
The Itchen Toll was only supposed to be there until the bridge costs were paid for.That happened l very long time age so whats the excuse now?????
The Itchen Toll was only supposed to be there until the bridge costs were paid for.That happened l very long time age so whats the excuse now?????
Posted by: Devils Advocate, Woolston on 4:44pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Woolston Resident[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]TGR[/bold] wrote: The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.[/quote] I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....[/quote] Whose going to cough up the bill of the maintenance charges and the general running of the bridge? If this were to happen you may see a significant rise in your council tax!
Woolston Resident wrote:
TGR wrote: The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.
I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....
Whose going to cough up the bill of the maintenance charges and the general running of the bridge? If this were to happen you may see a significant rise in your council tax!
Posted by: bingolover, southampton on 4:46pm Mon 21 Apr 08
When are the council going to realise that people will drive their cars no matter what??!! I don't understand the point of building a massive development without enough parking in the first place but to then suggest that all the new residents ride their bikes to work is silly. And why is it always assumed that people will be working in the city centre? The traffic will be causing congestion in all directions, not just towards town....
When are the council going to realise that people will drive their cars no matter what??!! I don't understand the point of building a massive development without enough parking in the first place but to then suggest that all the new residents ride their bikes to work is silly. And why is it always assumed that people will be working in the city centre? The traffic will be causing congestion in all directions, not just towards town....
Posted by: Jack, Soton on 8:56am Tue 22 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Woolston Resident[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]TGR[/bold] wrote: The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.[/quote] I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....[/quote] I'm afraid I can't agree. I travel over the bridge everyday and pay the toll but I fear the scrapping the toll would infact make the traffic far worse. Traffic is regulated and kept away from the crossing by the very fact that a toll is in place. The toll doesn't just pay for the upkeep of the bridge, it also acts to regulate traffic in the area.
At peak times it's not the toll booths that hold up the traffic and it backs up on the bridge past the point at which tolls are paid.
Woolston Resident wrote:
TGR wrote: The best way of removing congestion in Woolston is to scrap the toll booths on the Itchen Bridge.
I totally agree. Try scrapping paying for one day and the difference will be noticed, the traffic will flow....
I'm afraid I can't agree. I travel over the bridge everyday and pay the toll but I fear the scrapping the toll would infact make the traffic far worse. Traffic is regulated and kept away from the crossing by the very fact that a toll is in place. The toll doesn't just pay for the upkeep of the bridge, it also acts to regulate traffic in the area.
At peak times it's not the toll booths that hold up the traffic and it backs up on the bridge past the point at which tolls are paid.
Posted by: Stephen Harris, Southampton on 1:44pm Tue 22 Apr 08
I welcome the development proposed in woolston, the increase in traffic would be no different to when Vospers was fully operational. also the fact that the CO-OP are afraid they will loose business is rubbish as they seem to forget that ther are 3 large CO-OP stores in Woolston so the chance of a rival will give us more choice.
Steve Harris
Spring Road
Sholing
I welcome the development proposed in woolston, the increase in traffic would be no different to when Vospers was fully operational. also the fact that the CO-OP are afraid they will loose business is rubbish as they seem to forget that ther are 3 large CO-OP stores in Woolston so the chance of a rival will give us more choice.
Steve Harris
Spring Road
Sholing
Posted by: Caron, Bitterne on 2:52pm Tue 22 Apr 08
[quote][bold]sammy[/bold] wrote:
those weer the days allison werent they? when you could go out and have a good night out with out no hassle. it used to be peddle pushers and sweat shirts, sinband belts for the girls, and the men were in to crombie coats and the pork pie hats, i think thats what they were called? im showing my age now, but would love to go back to that era.[/quote] I loved Floaters! I remember dancing to "Funky Town" whilst blowing my whistle and donning my baggy jeans (with piping down the sides), sweatshirt, sinbad belt and deck shoes, and musn't forget that wedge hair cut!
Those were the days!
sammy wrote:
those weer the days allison werent they? when you could go out and have a good night out with out no hassle. it used to be peddle pushers and sweat shirts, sinband belts for the girls, and the men were in to crombie coats and the pork pie hats, i think thats what they were called? im showing my age now, but would love to go back to that era.
I loved Floaters! I remember dancing to "Funky Town" whilst blowing my whistle and donning my baggy jeans (with piping down the sides), sweatshirt, sinbad belt and deck shoes, and musn't forget that wedge hair cut!
Those were the days!
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