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12:00pm Tuesday 14th April 2009 in News Review
By Matt Smith, Politics and business reporter
OPPOSITION politicians in Southampton have given tentative backing to the idea of the city council buying the Saints stadium.
As revealed by the Daily Echo, ruling Tory council chiefs have met with the administrator trying sell Saints to see if the 32,600 seat stadium could be bought at a knock down price and leased back to the club.
The council could then make a return through making more use of the stadium for conferencing facilities and as a venue for lucrative concerts such as the Bon Jovi concert hosted at St Mary’s last year.
Possible ventures could also see the car park developed and an expansion of the city’s CCTV operation.
The council, which is understood to be one of four serious bidders among at least 34 approaches , could fund its purchase through a loan or by selling council assets.
We are not in a bidding war but we understand the pain of the fans and the importance of the club
Deputy council leader Royston Smith
Lib Dem group leader Councillor Jill Baston said: “In principle, I don’t think we would be against it, but I think first of all we would need to know that council tax payers’ money was not going to involved in any way.
“We don’t have any details thus far as to what the financial negotiations might be, so it might be a case of seeing in detail what is actually being proposed and how the finances would work and how council taxpayers might be protected.
“We obviously feel that the football club is very important to the city and we clearly wish it well and wish it to prosper.”
Labour councillors said, although they won’t rule the idea out, they will not commit to it until it had been discussed at a group meeting next Monday.
They are calling for cross-party talks to decide what help can be offered to Saints and how the council could work as a facilitator to bring together partners to deliver a “combined stadium rescue plan”.
Saints’ parent company Southampton Leisure Holdings PlC, which owns Southampton FC, was put into administration with debts of more than £30m.
The organisation owes £24m to Norwich Union for the stadium, while and £4.4m overdraft with Barclays Bank was exceeded.
Deputy council leader Royston Smith, confirmed he had held informal talks about buying the stadium but insisted that he would not gamble taxpayers’ money with the football club itself.
He said: “We remain only in the position that we wouldn’t rule out buying the ground if it was in the public interest. That would be if what it makes is more than it would cost in payments.”
He added: “We are not looking to compete with the private sector and we are not in a bidding war but we understand the pain of fans and the importance of the club.”
He said it was “breath-taking”
Labour were calling for cross-party talks when its group leader had previously spoke out against the club’s bid to axe free bus travel for fans in a bid to save cash.
Comments(27)
andoversaint
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12:56pm Tue 14 Apr 09
Andy Locks Heath
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1:05pm Tue 14 Apr 09
helltowatch
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1:25pm Tue 14 Apr 09
andoversaint wrote:Why so narrow minded? The positives by far outweigh the negatives. The potential revenue the council could draw from having such a venue would be huge. It would be money well spent in the longer term.
I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.
mr.southampton
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1:37pm Tue 14 Apr 09
andoversaint
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1:45pm Tue 14 Apr 09
helltowatch wrote:I was replying to the first post. For what it's worth, i think it's an excellent idea. The club is a vital part of the city and if the council are in a position to help SFC, while reaping benefits for the non-football-support
andoversaint wrote: I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.Why so narrow minded? The positives by far outweigh the negatives. The potential revenue the council could draw from having such a venue would be huge. It would be money well spent in the longer term.
Jesus_02
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1:47pm Tue 14 Apr 09
andoversaint wrote:LOL
I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.
Jesus_02
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1:51pm Tue 14 Apr 09
SF76
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2:07pm Tue 14 Apr 09
greystonesben
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2:33pm Tue 14 Apr 09
mr.southampton wrote:While andoversaint chose his reply in a witty way (lol), I fear you are actually being serious!
Another example of the public sector having to mop up the mess caused by the excesses and mis-management of the private sector.
Condor Man
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2:55pm Tue 14 Apr 09
Martin Wellbourne
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3:13pm Tue 14 Apr 09
greystonesben wrote:Make a profit?
mr.southampton wrote: Another example of the public sector having to mop up the mess caused by the excesses and mis-management of the private sector.While andoversaint chose his reply in a witty way (lol), I fear you are actually being serious! Mr. Southampton, please read the article. It's not 'mopping up the mess' the council are in fact looking to profiteer from the situation. 'Mopping up the mess' leads you to believe they HAVE to do it, which is simply not the case.
TedStripes
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3:51pm Tue 14 Apr 09
andoversaint wrote:Living in Andover your council tax is safe investing in a new mega-shed or something that will be an even bigger super white elephant.
I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.
MangaFace
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3:55pm Tue 14 Apr 09
Dog
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5:02pm Tue 14 Apr 09
MangaFace wrote:If you don't like it, you are free to move back to whichever rock you crawled out from underneath.
The council cant afford to resurface my road let alone waste money on a niche market as football. This will end in yet more tears for the 10 saints fans.
andoversaint
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5:07pm Tue 14 Apr 09
TedStripes wrote:I've got a shed... That's bigger than this...
andoversaint wrote: I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.Living in Andover your council tax is safe investing in a new mega-shed or something that will be an even bigger super white elephant.
thesaint
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5:34pm Tue 14 Apr 09
MangaFace wrote:well you could always move to pompey,you can get lovely countryside and a upmarket caravan.
The council cant afford to resurface my road let alone waste money on a niche market as football. This will end in yet more tears for the 10 saints fans.
Mark Murphy
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7:52pm Tue 14 Apr 09
The Grey Mystery
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8:50pm Tue 14 Apr 09
andoversaint wrote:if the council has money to spend ,spend it on housing for ENGLISH PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY NOT ON 90 MINUTES EVERY TWO WEEKS OF 4TH CLASS SPORT
I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.
milton road
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9:19pm Tue 14 Apr 09
thesaint
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10:44pm Tue 14 Apr 09
The Grey Mystery wrote:sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder,a thick chip
andoversaint wrote:if the council has money to spend ,spend it on housing for ENGLISH PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY NOT ON 90 MINUTES EVERY TWO WEEKS OF 4TH CLASS SPORT
I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.
BertCatt
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2:40am Wed 15 Apr 09
greystonesben
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9:15am Wed 15 Apr 09
The Grey Mystery wrote:Oh look, another rascist old codger who hates football. 4th class? Erm, sorry 'The Grey Muppet', football is the most followed sport certainly in England and questionably in the world too!
andoversaint wrote: I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.if the council has money to spend ,spend it on housing for ENGLISH PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY NOT ON 90 MINUTES EVERY TWO WEEKS OF 4TH CLASS SPORT
goard
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10:38am Wed 15 Apr 09
milton road
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11:04am Wed 15 Apr 09
d s
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12:01pm Wed 15 Apr 09
Condor Man
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8:54pm Wed 15 Apr 09
The Grey Mystery wrote:it shouldn't be the responsibility of the council to house people- buy your own place.
andoversaint wrote: I don't want my council tax paying for some white elephant loss making entity.if the council has money to spend ,spend it on housing for ENGLISH PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY NOT ON 90 MINUTES EVERY TWO WEEKS OF 4TH CLASS SPORT
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greystonesben says...
12:44pm Tue 14 Apr 09
I think its great that the council can see the benefit in this.
The one comment which slightly disturbs me is
'The council, which is understood to be one of four serious bidders among at least 34 approaches'.
I was under the impression that the 34 approaches were for the club?? This implies that they include approaches for just the stadium which if correct then begs questions, of the 4 serious bids, how many are just for the stadium ala the council bid and how many are actually for the club?!