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9:30am Sunday 19th April 2009 in
IT FIRST emerged back in February as an ambitious vision dreamed up by the largest Saints supporters group. However, the Saints Trust plan for the local authority to buy St Mary’s Stadium and then lease it back to the club was barely given any serious consideration.
At the time it seemed so far-fetched that neither Saints nor Southampton City Council would comment on the proposal, while even Saints Trust member Alan Whitehead MP said taxpayers’ money could be spent on “better things”.
Well it seems two months is a long time in football, as the council’s top finance officers this week began poring over Saints’ accounts to see if the idea could become reality.
Even Mr Whitehead put his name to a Labour statement calling for cross-party talks to see what could be done to help save the ailing club.
If the numbers show it to be a potential revenue earner, and no other buyer for the club and ground emerges in the next few weeks, there is a distinct possibility that St Mary’s will become a community stadium.
Councillor Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, yesterday said he would first talk to other local authorities about their experience of stadium ownership before making any decision.
“If it looks like there is some mileage in proceeding then I think we will need to speak very quickly to those who have done it before and see what experiences they’ve had,” Cllr Smith said.
Fans have cited Hull City’s Kingston Communication Stadium, which was bought, built and continues to be owned by the local council, as a model for parties to look at.
When the stadium opened in 2002 the city council, acting essentially as a landlord, granted a 50-year lease to a stadium management company to deal with the day-to-day operation and maintenance of the ground.
The football club controls the management company, while the city’s rugby league side are tenants in the ground, which is also home to a learning zone, library and multi-use sports facility.
Although the council is entitled to a share of profits from the stadium, this amounted to just £15,000 in the 2005/6 financial year – a poor return considering the council’s £45m investment.
The arrangement might seem straightforward, but the events that led to its creation are vastly different from Southampton’s situation.
Construction was funded thanks to a huge windfall the council got from selling shares in the city’s own telephone company, after which the stadium is named.
Meanwhile, Southampton City Council would most likely have to take out a loan to fund the purchase of St Mary’s, believed to be about £10m.
“What happened at Kingston Communications Stadium is a different thing entirely and the ones that I am familiar with all have different sets of circumstances,” Cllr Smith said.
In fact there are very few modern precedents for the city council to follow.
Perhaps the best example is that of Exeter City, who went into administration in the mid- 90s and was forced to sell St James’ Park to a private developer for £650,000. With the team’s future in doubt, the local council stepped in two years later to buy the ground back off the developers and lease it to the club.
Another example to be looked at is that of Wolverhampton Wanderers. The club was only saved from folding at the start of the 1986 season, when Wolverhamp-ton City Council bought Molineux Stadium for £1.12m, along with the surrounding land.
Private developers also teamed up with Asda to pay off the club’s outstanding debt – on the agreement that it would get planning to build a superstore next door.
Four years later Sir Jack Hayward took over the club and stadium and developed it into what was at the time one of the biggest football stadiums in England.
While it is unknown how long the city council would remain landlords at St Mary’s, it’s likely a stadium management company would be created to look after operation and maintenance.
“The city council principally don’t think we should be running things like leisure unless we have to and this is absolutely no different to that, so we would not want to run this in-house ourselves,” Cllr Smith said.
Given the Saints woeful financial situation, rent would probably be linked to match day attendance rather than a flat annual landlord/tenant fee.
The council is also investigating how it could make greater use of the stadium for conferencing facilities and as a venue for lucrative concerts.
Possible ventures could also see the car park turned into a multi-storey development and an expansion of the city’s CCTV operation.
The decision will come down to whether it stacks up financially for the taxpayer, but ultimately the council still sees itself as a last resort. Cllr Smith added: “We are not entering into a bidding war and we are not looking to outbid anyone, the ideal solution for the club is that someone buys the club and the stadium together and secures the financial and playing future of the club with their own investment.”
Comments(26)
Martin Wellbourne
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10:40am Sun 19 Apr 09
Tobeblunt
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11:13am Sun 19 Apr 09
Andy Locks Heath
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11:20am Sun 19 Apr 09
Stubs
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11:26am Sun 19 Apr 09
Condor Man
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12:30pm Sun 19 Apr 09
Stubs wrote:that's rich coming from someone living in Eastleigh and all their misadventures.
The council is going to waste more money. They are so Brainless in that civic centre.
NPC
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1:32pm Sun 19 Apr 09
farehamdave
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2:43pm Sun 19 Apr 09
dannyfloyd
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4:24pm Sun 19 Apr 09
Paramjit Bahia
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4:42pm Sun 19 Apr 09
goard
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robhythe
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6:14pm Sun 19 Apr 09
Invidia
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8:18pm Sun 19 Apr 09
Paramjit Bahia wrote:What on earth has your comments got to do with SFC, you have gone off on so many different tangents it is almost impossible to understand what you are trying to say, as for what the article is about, it could be a very good investment for SCC but I fear a bad business for SFC, for the very reasons I posted earlier
Although this 'Council' is champion when it comes to delivering proper services, which it is supposed to do, it is absolutely brilliant at wasting money of schemes worked out on the back of a postage stamp. Few million pounds were wasted on buying old Tyrell & Green building. The Leader of the Council at that time (John Arnold) had dreamed up that it could straight away be sold to the Institute (Now Southampton Solent University) and profit will be made. But many years later now the same Council is thinking of wasting even more money on demolishing the same white elephant. Story with the football stadium will also be very similar if not exactly the same. If our Councillors and MP-s are keen on playing Gods for Saints, let them put the money they are receiving from the tax payers in this adventurous pot first. Will they do it? I feel sorry for the Saints fans, but now writing is on the wall that they could go down, so the Council should give up its, almost, yearly idea of closing some of the play grounds because they are not used (False excuse) because by the look of it that is all Saints will be requiring.
Ian24
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8:55pm Sun 19 Apr 09
H0ckeyd
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11:58pm Sun 19 Apr 09
ray the turk
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1:54am Mon 20 Apr 09
farehamdave wrote:Good bye Fareham Dave.. None so pure.. None so brave!!
Why should we!!! I'm moving clubs...i will buy my season ticket at fratton park next season... bye saints
NZsaint
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9:55am Mon 20 Apr 09
Northern Saint
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11:29am Mon 20 Apr 09
saintsno1fan wrote:Most businesses don't own their own premises and pay rent to a landlord which means its predicatable and less risky as you're not left with a massively debt on your balance sheet which is pretty unattractive to a purchaser of the club.
My personal choice is I do not want the city council to buy the Stadium, the same as I do not want the fans to buy the club. The club needs to be run as a football club and the fact it has been run as a business is the main reason why this club is in this sorry state in the first place! if the city council or the fans buy either it will be run as a business and there will be no financial input to the scale that the club so desparately needs?
St Retford
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1:21pm Mon 20 Apr 09
MangaFace
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Family Man
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coyote ugly
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8:07pm Mon 20 Apr 09
coyote ugly
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farehamdave wrote:we don't need supporters like you anyway p****y scum are welcome to you !
Why should we!!! I'm moving clubs...i will buy my season ticket at fratton park next season... bye saints
coyote ugly
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8:11pm Mon 20 Apr 09
farehamdave wrote:loser :)
Why should we!!! I'm moving clubs...i will buy my season ticket at fratton park next season... bye saints
Beardy Rich
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3:52pm Tue 21 Apr 09
soulsaint
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saintsno1fan says...
10:27am Sun 19 Apr 09