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  • "Lead.. Face-Saver for Fluoridation supporters ?


    First off I like to thank everyone who made yesterday's Southamton Solent University anti Fluoridation meeting possible and listing to my concerns

    My concern is.. Southern Waters meter is connected to my internal stopcock Via 80 feet of decaying 100 year old lead piping, similar to many of Southampton's older inner city houses.

    The Fluoridation of Southampton's water supply will leach lead from these pipes resulting in extremely high levels lead contaminating everyone's drinking water.. i.e. backing up into the main Water supply

    I find it verging on the criminal that no one has informed Southampton or the Fluoridated areas in England.

    For their sake I hope Fluoridation advocates/supporters didn't know of this on going disater because they will be sued to hell and back.

    Read Arkansas Water district operator.. http://www.carrollco

    Water district operator takes up anti-fluoride fight.

    Sunday, February 19, 2012.

    By Becky Gillette Special to the Carroll County News.

    There are concerns that highly corrosive fluoride added to the water could leach lead from distribution pipes, which could cause lead contamination of drinking water, said Rene Fonseca, a licensed operator with the CBWD.

    Fonseca said experience in other areas of the country with aging infrastructure has shown that fluoride chemicals added to the water supply can result in extremely high lead levels in children. In 2004, an investigation by the CDC found that 42,000 children in Washington D.C. 16 months old and younger had blood levels 2.4 times higher than normal.





    Re: forest hump says...

    2:36pm Sun 26 Feb 12

    So Chlorine won't then?

    forest hump, I don't purport to be any kind of scientist

    if an Arkansas Water district operator say's highly corrosive fluoride leach's lead from distribution pipes that's OK with me.

    as far as lead and Chlorine goes.. the ball's in your court"
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Southern Water admits it is still trying to figure out where fluoridated water will be delivered

Fluoridation may spread outside consultation area

A Hampshire Against Fluoridation protest outside the Guildhall last September.

Hampshire against Fluoridation chairman Stephen Peckham.

First published in Health Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Education Reporter

Water bosses have admitted fluoride might have to be added to the tap water of people who have never been asked their opinion on the controversial process if the scheme is to work, the Daily Echo can reveal.

Campaigners believe the Hampshire project could become illegal if authorities attempt to introduce fluoridated water in areas not included in the original consultation on the plans.

Southern Water has said it is still trying to work out where the affected water would actually be delivered to under the proposal to add the chemical to drinking water across two-thirds of Southampton and parts of Eastleigh, Totton, Netley and Rownhams.

But the utility firm said it can make no promises areas outside of the initial proposals would not be included in the network receiving fluoridated supplies because of the way water is distributed.

Opponents of fluoride say they believe it would make the scheme illegal and are now assessing their legal options.

Hampshire Against fluoridation chairman Stephen Peckham said he also believes Southern Water’s admission it is still assessing how and where the scheme would work, as well as how much it will cost, wrecks South Central Strategic Health Auth-ority’s claims fluoridation is a cost-effective way of reducing tooth decay in children.

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This weekend marks the third anniversary of the SHA board’s controversial unanimous decision to approve fluoride in Hampshire despite 72 per cent of respondents to a public consultation saying they opposed the plans.

Mr Peckham said: “We are three years on and we don’t know what the scheme will involve or how much it will cost. It’s absurd. Nothing’s in place, no contracts have been signed.

“It just shows it hasn’t been properly thought through.

“If they’re still trying to work out its feasibility how can they have already approved a scheme as feasible, it seems a little late to be looking into it now.”

Southern Water was first asked by the SHA to begin work on introducing fluoridation after the board’s decision in February 2009 based on a scheme identified in an initial feasibility study in 2008.

That project was put on hold a few months later when a legal challenge was lodged against the SHA’s actions.

But when a High Court judge last year rejected that judicial review the water firm was once again asked to re-start its work.

Senior customer relations adviser Sharon Collins said the company is now carrying out “a further feasibility study which will deal with the specific investment and operational requirements for this scheme”.

But she admitted it is not known whether it will actually be possible to run the project as thought in 2008, which was identified as schemes one and seven.

She said: “This study will take into account a review of the distribution system within the area, having regard to current arrangements and any future changes.

“Accordingly, at this time, I am unable to give my categorical assurance that only the post code areas defined in schemes one to seven of the original ‘high level’ feasibility study will receive a fluoridated water supply.”

Mr Peckham said that raises the prospect of the scheme potentially becoming illegal by falling foul of the Water Act, which says a water company must accept a request from health chiefs to fluoridate supplies “within the area specified in the arrangements”.

And he said this isn’t the first time it has been suggested fluoridation could affect areas not in the original plans.

Mr Peckham said: “Caroline Nokes was told at one point that Romsey would end up with fluoridated water at some point, but that it wouldn’t be a problem.

“But it will become a legal issue because the Act is very clear that it says ‘within’ – it doesn’t matter if (somewhere outside the consultation area) only gets it four times a week, or even once a week, they should have been consulted.

“It could put the SHA in a very difficult position.

“If fluoridated water goes outside these areas they have breached the consultation structures because the key word is ‘within’.”

At the time of going to press the SHA had failed to answer questions from the Daily Echo over whether it believes the scheme could operate legally outside of the area consulted, or if it has made any contingency plans for Southern Water concluding the initial proposals are unworkable.

In a statement the authority said: “The fluoridation consultation was based on a high level feasibility study conducted by independent water engineers.

“To progress to the next stage of implementation Southern Water need to do a more detailed technical assessment. Further information should be available in the next three months on the outcomes of this next phase.”

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