MP's fury at mental health beds closure (From Daily Echo)

Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

what he failed to mention is that the plan is to re-open Woodhaven with 20 beds for other patients. Typical Tory lies.

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

For a start, it was not Me that made the promise that the NHS would be safe in My hands.

If I were to make a promise, that is the central theme of my electioneering, even though the state of the economy is known during that pre-election period, then I would consider it to be of paramount importance if I came to power on the strength of that promise.

Of course, if I were a devious bar steward, and found that I was in power, thanks to another party deciding that a taste of power was worth ditching their principles, I could always blame them for me not being able to keep my promise.

It must be a common site to see the tail wagging the dog, so why shouldn't the Clegg tail wag the Cameron dog?

Percy me Parrot going nuts where can I take him and my self now on the railways,Choo Chooh.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Percy me Parrot going nuts where can I take him and my self now on the railways,Choo Chooh.

With such an intelligent post, I suggest that the parrot takes you out as it would probably be considered to be the 'Responsible Adult.'

ME LIKE YOU CUCKOO GO AND JUMP OFF A!

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

Moral high ground, I think not, there is no high ground to be had.

If you want a political swipe, try this for size, 61,000 frontline nursing staff losing their job (Royal College of Nursing figures) because of the coalition Government.

Oh by the way, what job do I do? you have no clue as to my employment therefore you cannot say that I will do FA.

For your information, I work daily with people who have suffered from mental illness and who are trying to re-build their lives, I support them from the state benefit system back to employment, however if the people I work with didn't have the opportunity in the past to be in-patients some of them wouldn't be here today and seeking to re-build their lives.

EMMERDALE AND CORRYS ON TONIGHT YOU TOSSERS!

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

Moral high ground, I think not, there is no high ground to be had.

If you want a political swipe, try this for size, 61,000 frontline nursing staff losing their job (Royal College of Nursing figures) because of the coalition Government.

Oh by the way, what job do I do? you have no clue as to my employment therefore you cannot say that I will do FA.

For your information, I work daily with people who have suffered from mental illness and who are trying to re-build their lives, I support them from the state benefit system back to employment, however if the people I work with didn't have the opportunity in the past to be in-patients some of them wouldn't be here today and seeking to re-build their lives.

Corrys more interesting!

The closure of Woodhaven will resukt in more suicides or murders. There are people walking the streets who are clearly a danger to others or a danger to themselves.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
ME LIKE YOU CUCKOO GO AND JUMP OFF A!

Can you not find a job? Or at least stay off the alcohol?

They should just get rid of the beds which are being closed and put some more in their place.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
ME LIKE YOU CUCKOO GO AND JUMP OFF A!

Can you not find a job? Or at least stay off the alcohol?

Yes you are right but what else can I do!

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

Moral high ground, I think not, there is no high ground to be had.

If you want a political swipe, try this for size, 61,000 frontline nursing staff losing their job (Royal College of Nursing figures) because of the coalition Government.

Oh by the way, what job do I do? you have no clue as to my employment therefore you cannot say that I will do FA.

For your information, I work daily with people who have suffered from mental illness and who are trying to re-build their lives, I support them from the state benefit system back to employment, however if the people I work with didn't have the opportunity in the past to be in-patients some of them wouldn't be here today and seeking to re-build their lives.

Corrys more interesting!

A boring life you must lead.

LadyNetley wrote:
The closure of Woodhaven will resukt in more suicides or murders. There are people walking the streets who are clearly a danger to others or a danger to themselves.

Not necessarily so, in theory those who are at most risk to themselves if they need to be hospitalised in another unit, there are other mental hospitals other than Woodhaven.
I am afraid keeping Woodhaven will do little to the murder rate, it isn’t a prison or a forensic unit, and finally we can’t keep every risky person locked up in hospital or prison and closing Woodhaven wont change that much

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Well done Julian Lewis. As the Tory election campaign promised that the NHS was safe in their hands, it is nice to see that some of their MPs are attempting to make them keep that promise.

Spot on Linesman, the coalition are full of empty promises.

No doubt their supporters will on here in a minute to slaughter us both.

Simon Burns, the Health Minister, said it would be “totally inappropriate” for the Government to wade into the debate, insisting it was a matter for local decision-makers.

Those local decisions are made because of central Government policies, decisions also funding, if you makes cuts to a local NHS foundations funding they will make cuts to local services.

Perhaps they will contribute more than just copy & pasting from the article.

Well done, hero.

Thanks Shoong, no need for the hero bit though.

Your contribution was amazing by the way,,,,what was it?

My point really is, what are you going to do to help then? Start a petition? Start a fund raising & awareness campaign? Get your cheque book out?

Or do FA apart from a political swipe while pretending to take the moral high ground?

Thought so.

Moral high ground, I think not, there is no high ground to be had.

If you want a political swipe, try this for size, 61,000 frontline nursing staff losing their job (Royal College of Nursing figures) because of the coalition Government.

Oh by the way, what job do I do? you have no clue as to my employment therefore you cannot say that I will do FA.

For your information, I work daily with people who have suffered from mental illness and who are trying to re-build their lives, I support them from the state benefit system back to employment, however if the people I work with didn't have the opportunity in the past to be in-patients some of them wouldn't be here today and seeking to re-build their lives.

Corrys more interesting!

Each to their own level of intelligence, and you have indicated yours.

Dr Martin wrote:

LadyNetley wrote:
The closure of Woodhaven will resukt in more suicides or murders. There are people walking the streets who are clearly a danger to others or a danger to themselves.

Not necessarily so, in theory those who are at most risk to themselves if they need to be hospitalised in another unit, there are other mental hospitals other than Woodhaven.
I am afraid keeping Woodhaven will do little to the murder rate, it isn’t a prison or a forensic unit, and finally we can’t keep every risky person locked up in hospital or prison and closing Woodhaven wont change that much

The Socialist Party was on this case a year ahead of Dr Lewis who got involved when it started to get close to election time.
The Socialist Party manage to keep Crowling House open and stop it from being closed by the Trust board, (The Trust board wages for this section is now over £1 million a year all for working 1 or 2 days per mth). Crowling House is now being run down Staff there have been made redundant, they could not close it down out right because they knows that the Socialist Party will be on there case, so they are trying to close it down though the back door, by running the place down and then turn round saying it do not work and use that as an excuse to close it.
The idea behind all of this is to Privatise the NHS, bit by bit.
This Tory Lib/Dem government is to going to cut 61,000 front line nursing staff, The Labour party will cut 58,000 front line nursing staff, if I am right in hearing whats been said in Brighton the Greens intend to cut around the same number as Labour, we know that UKIP and BNP will do the same as the Torys its in there manifest that they will make cuts.

If any one wants to fight the cut backs and closing down parts of the NHS, the NHS as a AGM in Sept at the Nova.