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9:47am Thursday 15th May 2008

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TORIES last night announced they were back in charge of Southampton City Council by igniting a heated row when they formally scrapped a controversial gypsy and traveller site proposed for Swaythling.

New Labour leader Richard Williams quickly accused them of leaving the city in "confusion over of key area of policy" while freshly installed Lib Dem sheriff Liz Mizon said that a "emotional" and "expensive" race would have to start to find an alternative to Monks Brook.

Conservatives had opposed the site and pledged to ditch the proposal during an election campaign that saw them sweep back to power with their first majority in 24 years after they were ousted in February by a Labour and Lib Dem budget pact.

Deputy leader Royston Smith said: "We will look at alternatives where practical."

He later added: "There is no law that says we have to have one. We don't think the case has been met." Tories drew further criticism when they ditched a £90,000 Lab Lib proposed campaign to encourage residents to take up be Government paid benefits.

Tories claimed it would serve "no clear purpose" or guarantee savings. Labour called the decision "spiteful" and said it made "no economic sense."

Conservatives confirmed veteran councillor Alec Samuels, 78, as council leader and he appointed an eight man Cabinet.

The annual council meeting began with a warning from new Tory chairman Brian Parnell that he would operate a football style card system to keep unruly councillors in check. He was earlier elected as the city's 786th mayor at a ceremony at the Guildhall where he was praised for his "charm and good humour". It is the second time he has held the job - the last time, as a compromise candidate - was when Southampton Football Club made The FA cup final in 2003.

He joked: "I congratulate Portsmouth for taking our place this year."

Councillors thanked the "exceptional" outgoing mayor, Labour councillor Stephen Barnes-Andrews, who attended 450 engagements in the previous year while holding down job as manager of a Waitrose supermarket in the city. For the first time since 1971 councillors appointed an Honorary Recorder - the city's "firm but fair" crown court judge Derwin Hope QC.

The founder of the city' boat show Norman Kemish and lollipop lady Anne Newell received the City of Southampton Award while the city's territorial army unit was given the honorary Freedom of the City.

Proposing the volunteer soldiers for their service to the country and local community Cllr Smith, a former RAF man, said the city owned them a debt of gratitude that could not be repaid.

In Winchester the city's mayoral chains of office were handed over to Mike Read.


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Here, There says...
10:39am Thu 15 May 08

So a pot load of cash has been wasted just so they can keep election promises to a small percentage of the city, a further pot load of cash will be spent in relation to an alternative site which will then result in opposition parties promising to scrap that which will see a change in power once more with the only constant being the waste of tax payers money, there is a reason Monks brook was chosen, simply because it was the most suitable !!!
Any and all who have a recreation/unused area close to their homes must now be very concerned

Adrian Smith, says...
10:52am Thu 15 May 08

Here wrote:
So a pot load of cash has been wasted just so they can keep election promises to a small percentage of the city, a further pot load of cash will be spent in relation to an alternative site which will then result in opposition parties promising to scrap that which will see a change in power once more with the only constant being the waste of tax payers money, there is a reason Monks brook was chosen, simply because it was the most suitable !!! Any and all who have a recreation/unused area close to their homes must now be very concerned
"There is no law that says we have to have one. We don't think the case has been met."

Let's just save the cost of construction and move on to something voters want.

Good start IMO.

Spencer the Rover, Southampton says...
10:56am Thu 15 May 08

So the Council doesn't need to provide temporary taveller sites eh Royston? The idea of the sites is that travellers can be moved swiftly from illegal sites to the temporary ones. It's harder to move them on legally without identifying a place for them to go. So next time travellers move into Riverside Park, Peartree Green or Redbridge playing fields and cannot be moved for a few days, we'll know exactly who's responsible. Well done Royston.

Swaythling Boy, Swaythling says...
11:25am Thu 15 May 08

I can guarantee that the residents who would have had to put up with this imposition will be delighted that the plans have been abolished. It is rather a shame that the Liberal Democrats didn't listen having lost their seat there last year, and it took them losing another seat there(in what isn't natural Conservative territory) for these plans to be abolished. I for one am very pleased. Judging from the vitriolic comments above, some supporters of Labour in particular seem not have learnt anything from 1st May. In Portswood and Swaythling, I suggest the local Liberal Democrats get out their exercise books pretty quickly before it is too late even if Labour cannot be bothered.

And to coin a phrase, when I heard that the plans had been abolished I thought "GET IN THERE!"

Keith Oftergrass, says...
1:22pm Thu 15 May 08

Oh great, so now they are likely to pitch up anywhere !!

Surely it's better to have designated area for these people - especially if it's in a hole like Swaythling it will hardly bother decent hard working people ?

Susie, Mansbridge says...
1:34pm Thu 15 May 08

How dare Keith call Swaythling a hole. i am proud to live here. it is a friendlt safe neighbourhood. What is he scared off? the site might come near his house? I guess for many people it being at Swaythling meant it wasn't going to be near their house.

Red Rooster, Bitterne says...
1:38pm Thu 15 May 08

"There is no law that we have to have one."

Er, yes there is. It's called the 2004 Housing Act, and you can read the relevant stuff here:

http://www.opsi.gov.
uk/ACTS/acts2004/ukp
ga_20040034_en_20#pt
6-ch5-pb6

Also the 2003 Anti-social behaviour Act, which says you can only move on traveller encampments if there is suitable accomodation provided in the local authority. Which now there won't be.

Royston Smith is a half-wit.

Keith Oftergrass, says...
5:45pm Thu 15 May 08

Susie wrote:
How dare Keith call Swaythling a hole. i am proud to live here. it is a friendlt safe neighbourhood. What is he scared off? the site might come near his house? I guess for many people it being at Swaythling meant it wasn\'t going to be near their house.
Friendly and safe neighbourhood - have you just moved there from Baghdad or Beirut ?

I don't think many people would agree with you there sweetheart. You'll be saying the Flowers Estate is a community of decent, hard working people with great community spirit and honesty next !!!

Troll are you ?

Swaythling Boy, Swaythling says...
8:21pm Thu 15 May 08

Red Rooster wrote:
"There is no law that we have to have one." Er, yes there is. It's called the 2004 Housing Act, and you can read the relevant stuff here: http://www.opsi.gov. uk/ACTS/acts2004/ukp ga_20040034_en_20#pt 6-ch5-pb6 Also the 2003 Anti-social behaviour Act, which says you can only move on traveller encampments if there is suitable accomodation provided in the local authority. Which now there won't be. Royston Smith is a half-wit.
Red Rooster, yuo are wrong. Section 225 Housing Act 2004 (as amended) requires a local authority to carry out an assessment of the needs of gypsies and travellers who reside in or resort to their area. This does mean that a local authority HAS to have a site. It merely means that, if it appears to the LA that there is a need, they have to meet it. Equally, if it appears to the LA that that need is met then no further provision need be made. The law is better viewed at www.statutelaw.gov.u
k where Acts and Regulations appear in their amended form (on the OPSI's site, they are as passed, not as amended - but not being a half wit yourself, you knew that, didn't you)

Richie, bitterne park says...
8:04am Fri 16 May 08

Susie wrote:
How dare Keith call Swaythling a hole. i am proud to live here. it is a friendlt safe neighbourhood. What is he scared off? the site might come near his house? I guess for many people it being at Swaythling meant it wasn't going to be near their house.
Susie, dont bite,this idiot is out to annoy as many people as possible as he has tried to in the passed,i think HE is a NIMBY as he has called swaythling residents in the passed.Just ignore him he WILL go away.

Richie, Bitterne says...
8:06am Fri 16 May 08

Richie wrote:
Susie wrote: How dare Keith call Swaythling a hole. i am proud to live here. it is a friendlt safe neighbourhood. What is he scared off? the site might come near his house? I guess for many people it being at Swaythling meant it wasn't going to be near their house.
Susie, dont bite,this idiot is out to annoy as many people as possible as he has tried to in the passed,i think HE is a NIMBY as he has called swaythling residents in the passed.Just ignore him he WILL go away.
idiot keith oftergass comments that is.

Keith Oftergrass, says...
2:12pm Fri 16 May 08

No I won't !

(Great grammar, spelling and reasoned argument by the way - you're not doing a lot for your cause)

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