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Ambulance shortage hits response times


HAMPSHIRE is so short of Ambulances it is affecting response times, research has shown.

In Hampshire, there are only 4.9 ambulances per 100,000 people.

That compares to 5.3 ambulances per 100,000 in the South Central Ambulance Service which covers Hampshire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire.

But the trust with the fastest response times in England and Wales is the South Western Ambulance Service which has 7.1 ambulances per 100,000.

Martin Tod, Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate for Winchester, uncovered the information after making Freedom of Information requests to every ambulance trust in England and Wales.

Mr Tod discovered that the time it takes to reach people with life-threatening problems in Hampshire and the South Central region ambulance is being delayed by a lack of ambulances compared to the best performing areas.

He said: “To match the best performing parts of the country and help fix response times in rural areas, we need more ambulances.

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“It’s not rocket science. If you look at the figures across the country, it’s clear that more ambulances help you get faster response times. The south west has seven ambulances for every 100,000 people. We have five. We’d need 86 more ambulances across the region to have the same level of coverage.”

The worst hit areas are rural ones like Winchester. Although the South Central region is close to reaching three-quarters of emergencies in eight minutes, in Winchester it’s only half. And in some rural areas, only one in 10 calls are reached in time.

The worst performing ward in the Winchester district is Cheriton and Bishops Sutton ward, where only 10.5per cent of life-threatening incidents are reached in eight minutes.

In the past 12 months, South Central Ambulance Service has improved the number of people with life-threatening reached within eight minutes from 61 per cent to 72.6per cent.

Trust chairman, Neil Goulden said: “To achieve all our targets we need more ambulances, more crews and more money.”

He said the funding mechanism does not take proper account of the cost of supporting rural areas – particularly populated rural areas like Hampshire compared to relatively unpopulated areas like Dartmoor.


Comments(15)

Stupideditor says...
8:43am Thu 24 Sep 09

It’s not rocket science. If you look at the figures across the country, it’s clear that more ambulances help you get faster response times.

Rubbish, When the A&E departments get clogged up ambulances like walking in patients have to wait. The more ambulance you have the more people waiting in the cue.

Also the more ambulances you have the more people will abuse them for waste of time jobs like swine flu and broken finger nails.

It's not about more ambulances it more about the public actually thinking about what they are calling for and thinking of other ways to get to hospital instead of the free taxi that is hampshire ambulance

Stupideditor says...
8:51am Thu 24 Sep 09

Once again another slating of the ambulance service by the echo with a story beneith on how heroic the fire service is..

What is Mr Todd going to do to improve this lack of ambulances then, Donate an ambulance to the service? Unless he can do anything constructive then he should leave the emergency services alone. I think all 4 of them do a good job for poor pay and if our government are going to make cuts to frontline NHS staff then more people are going to be affected by lack of NHS staff including ambulance service.

Treble9 says...
9:12am Thu 24 Sep 09

He's right. There aren't enough ambulances for the current demand. We regularly have to log on late because we're waiting for a vehicle to become available, either from a crew finishing or from the mechanics having fixed one. We can sit on base for up to three hours doing nothing because we haven't got a vehicle. This is a regular occurance. Then there's the queues at hospitals. If we can't offload a patient we have to wait with them until we can. This can be up to three hours too. The above poster is also right in that if people didn't call for stupid reasons we'd be able to get to those that really do need us more quickly. Next time you're ill or injured really think.....is there any other way you can get to hospital/a walk in centre/your GP surgery? The myth that you get seen quicker if you go in by ambulance isn't true. If you are low priority you will be taken straight to the waiting room. Also, GP's have to have a budget set aside for transporting patients to hospital. If your GP wants you to go to hospital but you are in a stable condition don't let them call 999. Ask for them to provide you a taxi instead. It isn't just the public that abuses the ambulance service.

Treble9 says...
9:37am Thu 24 Sep 09

I really think the Daily Echo need to come out and shadow a crew for an entire run of shifts, including a nightshift and write something real, exploring the things we go to and the problems we face instead of all of this freedom of information crap they keep trotting out.

ameliaT says...
9:53am Thu 24 Sep 09

I have nothing but praise for the Ambulance Service. Having had to use their services three times recently, their response in every way was excellent and they also gave so much reassurance to the relatives. Upon reaching the A & E Department, each time, there were ambulances queuing to hand over patients. On one occasion we counted seven ambulance crews waiting with their respective patient's in the corridor because there were no beds available in A and E to hand patients over to the staff. This happened on each occasion we attended the hospital. The first time we waited almost two and a half hours and there was not much improvement on the second two occasions. All at different times of the day and night - made no difference. The Ambulance Crews just had to wait so seven ambulances, that could have been back on the road were static in A & E.

I cannot speak highly enough of the A and E Department or the Paramedics but all they could do was keep apologising for the delay.

Something needs to be done very urgently to sort this appalling situation out.




southy says...
11:05am Thu 24 Sep 09

"" South Western Ambulance Service which has 7.1 ambulances per 100,000 ""
what they failed to tell you is that south western area has fewer ambulance, all down to the fact its less populated area.
what has not help them in repose times is the fact that they have closed down many of the mid way hospitals, like the one that use to be at ashurst or the one in totton and there are many more that been closed down just so the nhs trust can save money and put a part of this save money in there pockets, you know the type of people, those that work 3 or 4 days per mth and earn £20,000 and more. the nhs has been getting sick with in it self for the last 25 plus years, and it will take a good socialist government to put it right again

Lone Ranger says...
11:31am Thu 24 Sep 09

southy wrote:
"" South Western Ambulance Service which has 7.1 ambulances per 100,000 "" what they failed to tell you is that south western area has fewer ambulance, all down to the fact its less populated area. what has not help them in repose times is the fact that they have closed down many of the mid way hospitals, like the one that use to be at ashurst or the one in totton and there are many more that been closed down just so the nhs trust can save money and put a part of this save money in there pockets, you know the type of people, those that work 3 or 4 days per mth and earn £20,000 and more. the nhs has been getting sick with in it self for the last 25 plus years, and it will take a good socialist government to put it right again
But surely Southy the Ashurst or Totton hospitals were never used as A&E were they ?

southy says...
11:50am Thu 24 Sep 09

yes they was once used for that, long time ago now, also used has ambulance stations, the idea of places like this, was to make a patients stable, then transfer them into the main hospitals at a later time.

Paramjit Bahia says...
12:25pm Thu 24 Sep 09

Why is it that every time any weaknesses in important services are exposed by the press the professionals involved and their fan club gets aggressively defensive?
End of the day we the people are paying for these services, so rightly expect reasonable response times.
If there are some problems with the way whole system works then it only proves that improvements in procedures are required. So rather than viewing attack upon workers in the service, the constructive criticism and genuine concerns should be used for fixing the inbuilt glitches of the whole system that provides our health care.

Treble9 says...
12:47pm Thu 24 Sep 09

Er....I have actually agreed with the article in my post. There aren't enough vehicles, as I've already said.

Jerry Parsons says...
12:49pm Thu 24 Sep 09

Of course, at the risk of sounding like a stuck record...if the dispatch system for Community responders was sorted we'd be there within the 8 minutes in the majority of cases.


goard says...
3:45pm Thu 24 Sep 09

Case in point, daughter laying in hall transfixed in pain - ambulance came 2 and a quater hours later and friendly and kindly men said she was the first un-drunk urgent case. A and E excellent, daughter could hear drunken injured being controlled by staff, they were out of their minds. She remained in a ward but no attention because of 'stabbings' that night. Later told she would not have survived if she was sent home. Second Point: Ambulance not in operation - closed down - friend's baby crawled into gutter behind stationary parked truck - laid injured for two hours because ambulance Depot closed down - this was a few years ago but the family fought to regain a Depot but now again closed down. Yes, I look upon the powers that be as not really with the 'real world'.

goard

Stupideditor says...
3:59pm Thu 24 Sep 09

goard wrote:
Case in point, daughter laying in hall transfixed in pain - ambulance came 2 and a quater hours later and friendly and kindly men said she was the first un-drunk urgent case. A and E excellent, daughter could hear drunken injured being controlled by staff, they were out of their minds. She remained in a ward but no attention because of 'stabbings' that night. Later told she would not have survived if she was sent home. Second Point: Ambulance not in operation - closed down - friend's baby crawled into gutter behind stationary parked truck - laid injured for two hours because ambulance Depot closed down - this was a few years ago but the family fought to regain a Depot but now again closed down. Yes, I look upon the powers that be as not really with the 'real world'. goard
What has the closure of an ambulance depot got to do with the dispatch of ambulances. Most of the time they get dispatched to jobs from the forecourts of A&E Hospitals or peoples addresses.

As for treble nines comments regarding GP surgeys - he is right. I was at my GP surgery recently and they admitted a patient to a&e after he was driven to the surgery by his wife. He was walking and looked well.

Brite Spark says...
9:42pm Thu 24 Sep 09

If there is an ambulance shortage maybe bendy buses should be re introduced, they have a much longer wheelbase. They would also be useful in a major incident where there might be numerous casualties.

Iknowthings says...
9:51pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Can you all please consider the following:
We are the only country in the world with a public and free Ambulance service, the only country to set national performance targets and yet we all expect this for minimal taxes, complaining bitterly if these go up.
The ONLY time you see an Ambulance running on blue lights is when life is believed to be in danger,Police and Fire could be going to anything from a domestic argument to a cat up a tree, yet they never receive the level of criticism Hampshire press seem to delight in printing, and many residents seem to enjoy helping with.All in all, we get a pretty reasonable service from dedicated people with enough to deal with apart from articles like these, and a wannabe MP trying to drum up votes on information he gleaned at a public meeting, I notice he doesn't mention that they were third best performers in the country, wonder why not, harder to win votes maybe?Politics may be a dirty game, but so is life as a Public Servant.


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