Pledge to halve number of smokers (From Daily Echo)

why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

Having just given up smoking myself I realise the waste of money it has been over the last 40 years.
It was my choice to quit no one Else's and I will not be dictated to by a corrupt Labour government who only wishes to extend its draconian intrusion into everyone's life.
Anyway it is purely relative as they have no chance of being re-elected as most people have wised up an realised what a bunch of incompetents they really are

southy wrote:
why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

With pubs closing down left right ane centre they don't need the Government to help to reduce the numbers of drinkers, they're doing alright on their own.

My View from the Hill wrote:

southy wrote:
why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

With pubs closing down left right ane centre they don't need the Government to help to reduce the numbers of drinkers, they're doing alright on their own.

what they can do is stop supermarkets selling drinks, this will go a long way in helping pubs to recover.

southy wrote:
why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

Probably because people don't die from passive drinking like they do from passive smoking.

Wonder where the lost tax revenue will come from if everybody quit smoking. Election spin methinks.

Cyber-Fug wrote:

southy wrote: why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

Probably because people don't die from passive drinking like they do from passive smoking.

They may not die from passive drinking but innocent people are frequently on the receiving end of drink related assaults and drink driving.

I used to smoke and feel this plan of action to cut the number of smokers is an excellent idea. Since giving up I felt so much better physically and emotionally

I'm not a smoker, so any changes to the law won't really affect me. Good good, the government interferes with so many aspects of life as it is, so not being a smoker eases the burden of the nanny state.

Stupideditor wrote:

Cyber-Fug wrote:

southy wrote: why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

Probably because people don't die from passive drinking like they do from passive smoking.

They may not die from passive drinking but innocent people are frequently on the receiving end of drink related assaults and drink driving.

I used to smoke and feel this plan of action to cut the number of smokers is an excellent idea. Since giving up I felt so much better physically and emotionally

plus there is no real proof that passive smoking kills, because other factors are not taking into account, like road fumes or fumes from a industral area. or the odd bonfire fumes.
what they are doing is seeing that a person die of lung cancer ect, and seeing others that dont smoke die of the same system and blaming smokers, they for get that most tobaccos has an additive added to it sulphur, and you will find this chemical in road traffic fumes, factory fumes, bonfires even fireworks. its even in the fresh veg and fruit that we eat, and is not a problem in extremely very small amounts, its well the dose comes to high is the problem. even those coal miner that died though breathing in coal dust, it is the sulphur in the dust that is the problem, sulphur will eat away the membrane in side your lungs and other parts of the body.

geoff51 wrote:
Having just given up smoking myself I realise the waste of money it has been over the last 40 years.
It was my choice to quit no one Else's and I will not be dictated to by a corrupt Labour government who only wishes to extend its draconian intrusion into everyone's life.
Anyway it is purely relative as they have no chance of being re-elected as most people have wised up an realised what a bunch of incompetents they really are

Likewise, but a smoker for about ten years. Now i'm on a fitness frenzy!

I think I quit partly due to the number of campaigns I've seen over the last few years. I've certainly wisened up to the health implications because of anti-smoking marketing.

I feel so much better for it and I don't get half as many winter colds as I used to.

southy wrote:

My View from the Hill wrote:

southy wrote:
why dont he pick on the drinks trade, there's all ways been a higher number of drinks related deaths than from smoking related deaths.

With pubs closing down left right ane centre they don't need the Government to help to reduce the numbers of drinkers, they're doing alright on their own.

what they can do is stop supermarkets selling drinks, this will go a long way in helping pubs to recover.

Get real, the smoking ban started the rot, supermarkets have sold beer for ages, the introduction smoking ban forced smokers to stay in and buy their beer in the supermarket, hence the increase sales of supermarket alcohol, which leads to bigger discounts being offered to big supermarkets, which leads to cheaper beer being bought and pubs and clubs closing.

If you want to help pubs and clubs to recover, also reduce the incidents of drink related anti social behaviour on our streets, let people have the choice to smoke in pubs and clubs.

the decline had all ready started before the no-smoking ban came in, the no-smoking was just another nail in the coffin.

B. L. wrote:
Wonder where the lost tax revenue will come from if everybody quit smoking. Election spin methinks.

Reduced NHS costs, maybe.
I don't have the statistics to hand, but my guess is smoking-related NHS costs exceed tobacco tax revenues.

why should people have the choice to smoke in pubs and clubs? non-smokers shouldn't have to breathe in their dirty habit. very glad they changed the law on that one, used to come home with the stench of smoke in my hair and nothing you could do about it except not go out! anything they can do to help people live a healthier lifestyle must be a good thing!

moomoomama wrote:
why should people have the choice to smoke in pubs and clubs? non-smokers shouldn't have to breathe in their dirty habit. very glad they changed the law on that one, used to come home with the stench of smoke in my hair and nothing you could do about it except not go out! anything they can do to help people live a healthier lifestyle must be a good thing!

Me, me, me.

moomoomama wrote:
why should people have the choice to smoke in pubs and clubs? non-smokers shouldn't have to breathe in their dirty habit. very glad they changed the law on that one, used to come home with the stench of smoke in my hair and nothing you could do about it except not go out! anything they can do to help people live a healthier lifestyle must be a good thing!

public bars in pubs are also known has smokers bar, the saloon bar it was more for none-smoking, there was a choice before now there is none.

southy wrote:

moomoomama wrote: why should people have the choice to smoke in pubs and clubs? non-smokers shouldn't have to breathe in their dirty habit. very glad they changed the law on that one, used to come home with the stench of smoke in my hair and nothing you could do about it except not go out! anything they can do to help people live a healthier lifestyle must be a good thing!

public bars in pubs are also known has smokers bar, the saloon bar it was more for none-smoking, there was a choice before now there is none.

Well thats not so bad if the two areas are completely seperate but most pubs/clubs never had that. Fair enough if people want to smoke its their choice but allowing smoking in public enclosed spaces forces people to either put up with it or never go out! Of corse this will always be a smoker vs non-smoker debate.....! lol

yes it will,
there all ways been a number of pubs, that kept to the old rule smoking only in public bars, some even laid down a dress code rule for the saloon bar.
working mens clubs and social clubs some said no smoking in the main hall, but in the games room you was allowed to smoke, but they would go on what the majority wanted, and in your disco's dance halls and night clubs another rule use to apply smoking only at the tables and not on the dance floor, smoke in those places was not so much of a problem because the ceiling was a lot higher and had good ventilation.
like when people get in my car i tell them this is a smoking car. they then have a choice to get in or not.

freefinker wrote:

B. L. wrote: Wonder where the lost tax revenue will come from if everybody quit smoking. Election spin methinks.

Reduced NHS costs, maybe. I don't have the statistics to hand, but my guess is smoking-related NHS costs exceed tobacco tax revenues.

Making people pay their own health charges where illness is self-inflicted will solve the problem.

It isn't about tax revenue (obviously) because the Government is committed to cutting that in half in ten years. Cancer etc. from smoking takes many more years to filter through the system.