Ice rink plans backed by former champion (From Daily Echo)

Yes lets get this done! It's been far too long over due! I want to see an ice-hockey team take off too...The Southampton Sharks...maybe Liebher can fund that and make them as good as the NHL teams!!

I was wondering when the next story on an ice rink would arise.

Chris Howarth.
.
WHO?

Oh for the love of....

This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Common wrote:
Chris Howarth.
.
WHO?

before your time i take it. chris was number 2 in the uk

If it is that good an idea, maybe he would like to invest in it.

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Yes lets get this done! It's been far too long over due! I want to see an ice-hockey team take off too...The Southampton Sharks...maybe Liebher can fund that and make them as good as the NHL teams!!

I agree with the rink, I agree with a ice hockey team, but the name Sharks belongs to that lot down the road,you wouldn't a bunch of sharks back here, the last lot of sharks nearly killed our club.

We were the Southampton Vikings and should remain so, if this project ever takes off.

Redback wrote:
Oh for the love of.... This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Because for over 50 years we had an ice rink and we want another as soon as we can.

Simple really :)

THE BRICK wrote:

Redback wrote:
Oh for the love of.... This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Because for over 50 years we had an ice rink and we want another as soon as we can.

Simple really :)

Agree totally. You may not have ever used an Ice Rink Redback but plenty that live here did and will again, given the opportunity which hopefully the Council will support this time. Each to their own eh?

Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics?
What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s”

He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach?

This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain.

The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

My View from the Hill wrote:

allsaintsnocurves wrote: Yes lets get this done! It's been far too long over due! I want to see an ice-hockey team take off too...The Southampton Sharks...maybe Liebher can fund that and make them as good as the NHL teams!!

I agree with the rink, I agree with a ice hockey team, but the name Sharks belongs to that lot down the road,you wouldn't a bunch of sharks back here, the last lot of sharks nearly killed our club. We were the Southampton Vikings and should remain so, if this project ever takes off.

I must say I agree, why would u take on a name from down the road, the "Southampton vikings" a pheonix from the fire from the past.

stay local wrote:
Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics?
What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s”

He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach?

This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain.

The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

Well, I hope they will get their money back. Just another big business with so many outlets that skaters will be on their knees to pay for the pleasure. Surely, all those flats being built could be raised to the ground or use an old closed rubbish tip to make an open air rink - like America, cheaper to run, cheaper for the really enthusiastic skater and it won't break anyone's bank. This is not pleasing the skaters it's pleasing the investors.

goard

teh wrote:

stay local wrote: Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics? What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s” He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach? This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain. The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

No I am not suited to running an ice rink ( nor have I suggest that I am), if you try reading both the article and my response I am questioning the claim by Chris that an ice rink is viable, when people who are experienced and have tried this in Southampton found that the uptake was lesss than 50% of their predicted numbers.

Balloon Festival please!

I remember skating a the Top Rank way back when with the school in the late 70's good times . I am living in canada now and know for a fact that a lot female hockey teams from the UK flock to my town to
take part in female hockey in october, they always say that they don't the ice rinks in UK, so build it and as the saying goes they will come. Who knows one day maybe the UK will have a women's hockey team who like the Canadian womens team are doing well. Skating is great exercise.

stay local wrote:

teh wrote:

stay local wrote: Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics? What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s” He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach? This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain. The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

No I am not suited to running an ice rink ( nor have I suggest that I am), if you try reading both the article and my response I am questioning the claim by Chris that an ice rink is viable, when people who are experienced and have tried this in Southampton found that the uptake was lesss than 50% of their predicted numbers.

We can always depend on 'stay local' to bring balance to an optimistic debate. You make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about ice rinks not making any money or not being viable yet off no real proof of it whatsoever. Please don't think that a temporary rink will ever prove whether ice rinks make profits or not, temporary structures never will. The old Southampton rink did make money and was viable and is badly missed. Go take your comments somewhere else, they are certainly not wanted here.

Huffybear wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

Redback wrote:
Oh for the love of.... This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Because for over 50 years we had an ice rink and we want another as soon as we can.

Simple really :)

Agree totally. You may not have ever used an Ice Rink Redback but plenty that live here did and will again, given the opportunity which hopefully the Council will support this time. Each to their own eh?

That may be so. However, from the perspective of someone who grew up round here, moved away in my teens and came back in my 20s, it's really quite strange. Ice rinks are not a hot topic of conversation anywhere else!

Redback wrote:

Huffybear wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

Redback wrote: Oh for the love of.... This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Because for over 50 years we had an ice rink and we want another as soon as we can. Simple really :)

Agree totally. You may not have ever used an Ice Rink Redback but plenty that live here did and will again, given the opportunity which hopefully the Council will support this time. Each to their own eh?

That may be so. However, from the perspective of someone who grew up round here, moved away in my teens and came back in my 20s, it's really quite strange. Ice rinks are not a hot topic of conversation anywhere else!

Durham, since the same happened to the Wasps, it has been a constant topic of conversation

Birmingham, lost their ice rink in a fire
and have had the same constant 'yes we will build another rink one day when no one is looking' and of course, Streatham in London, Tesco want to bulldoze the rink to build a supermarket.

THE BRICK wrote:

Redback wrote:

Huffybear wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

Redback wrote: Oh for the love of.... This town's obsession with an ice-rink is just weird, tbh.

Because for over 50 years we had an ice rink and we want another as soon as we can. Simple really :)

Agree totally. You may not have ever used an Ice Rink Redback but plenty that live here did and will again, given the opportunity which hopefully the Council will support this time. Each to their own eh?

That may be so. However, from the perspective of someone who grew up round here, moved away in my teens and came back in my 20s, it's really quite strange. Ice rinks are not a hot topic of conversation anywhere else!

Durham, since the same happened to the Wasps, it has been a constant topic of conversation

Birmingham, lost their ice rink in a fire
and have had the same constant 'yes we will build another rink one day when no one is looking' and of course, Streatham in London, Tesco want to bulldoze the rink to build a supermarket.

I lived round the corner from the Streatham rink and used it sometimes. It was a decrepit husk of a place, and was the entertainment of last resort for the local yoot.

Southampton used to have an ice-rink. Didn't it go bust because not enough people used it? What's changed since then?

Let the council concentrate on making the roads safe to drive on, the parks safe to walk through, and pulling the city centre back from the Clockwork Orange bearpit it's become in the evenings. Once that's sorted, they can focus on ice-rinks and titanic museums and the worlds biggest elastic-band ball.

THE BRICK wrote:

stay local wrote:

teh wrote:

stay local wrote: Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics? What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s” He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach? This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain. The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

No I am not suited to running an ice rink ( nor have I suggest that I am), if you try reading both the article and my response I am questioning the claim by Chris that an ice rink is viable, when people who are experienced and have tried this in Southampton found that the uptake was lesss than 50% of their predicted numbers.

We can always depend on 'stay local' to bring balance to an optimistic debate. You make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about ice rinks not making any money or not being viable yet off no real proof of it whatsoever. Please don't think that a temporary rink will ever prove whether ice rinks make profits or not, temporary structures never will. The old Southampton rink did make money and was viable and is badly missed. Go take your comments somewhere else, they are certainly not wanted here.

Here is the proof from the BBC news site
"The majority of Scotland's remaining ice rinks are struggling to survive, a BBC Scotland survey has discovered. "

Full story follow this link
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/2/hi/uk_news/scotl
and/7336777.stm

Now regarding balanced debate can you tell me?
*if the rink is so profitable and viable there has not been any progress over the last 20 years.
*Why the dedicated skaters of
Southampton have not raised funds to at least contribute to their ice rink.
*Why the Poole park ice rink closed.
*Why planet ice have not already developed a rink in Southampton.

Finally debates should not be optimistic but realistic, as an ice rink supporter you will be optimistic, for my self as I have said before I support an ice rink but not the use of public funds to make it happen or run it once it starts. If Mark Warburg can get his 10 million let him get on with it, but do not rick my money/ taxes.

stay local wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

stay local wrote:

teh wrote:

stay local wrote: Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics? What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s” He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach? This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain. The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

No I am not suited to running an ice rink ( nor have I suggest that I am), if you try reading both the article and my response I am questioning the claim by Chris that an ice rink is viable, when people who are experienced and have tried this in Southampton found that the uptake was lesss than 50% of their predicted numbers.

We can always depend on 'stay local' to bring balance to an optimistic debate. You make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about ice rinks not making any money or not being viable yet off no real proof of it whatsoever. Please don't think that a temporary rink will ever prove whether ice rinks make profits or not, temporary structures never will. The old Southampton rink did make money and was viable and is badly missed. Go take your comments somewhere else, they are certainly not wanted here.

Here is the proof from the BBC news site
"The majority of Scotland's remaining ice rinks are struggling to survive, a BBC Scotland survey has discovered. "

Full story follow this link
http://news.bbc.co.u

k/2/hi/uk_news/scotl

and/7336777.stm

Now regarding balanced debate can you tell me?
*if the rink is so profitable and viable there has not been any progress over the last 20 years.
*Why the dedicated skaters of
Southampton have not raised funds to at least contribute to their ice rink.
*Why the Poole park ice rink closed.
*Why planet ice have not already developed a rink in Southampton.

Finally debates should not be optimistic but realistic, as an ice rink supporter you will be optimistic, for my self as I have said before I support an ice rink but not the use of public funds to make it happen or run it once it starts. If Mark Warburg can get his 10 million let him get on with it, but do not rick my money/ taxes.

The story you refer to 'Stay Local' was nearly two years ago and thats your so called proof?

Redback, no the old rink didn't go bust, it was making a fair profit when Top Rank closed it after years of trying, all the way from 1963 when they first took it over.

www.southampton-viki
ngs.co.uk/history.ht
m

THE BRICK wrote:

stay local wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

stay local wrote:

teh wrote:

stay local wrote: Was this the Chris Howarth who came 15th in the 1980 winter Olympics? What it his connection to Southampton? “He skated at competitions and shows in the 80’s” He says “The plans look really good. There is obviously massive support for a rink in Southampton.” How can he make such claims he does not live in the UK, he does not have experience in building and running ice rinks, he is a coach? This item is reminiscent of the comedy character Denver mills of Little Britain. The people with practical experience of running an ice rink in Southampton say it is unlikely to succeed. That is Robin Cousins, he was the one who got the gold medal in the same Olympics!

And I like the way you think you're suited to the job of running a rink smarty.

No I am not suited to running an ice rink ( nor have I suggest that I am), if you try reading both the article and my response I am questioning the claim by Chris that an ice rink is viable, when people who are experienced and have tried this in Southampton found that the uptake was lesss than 50% of their predicted numbers.

We can always depend on 'stay local' to bring balance to an optimistic debate. You make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about ice rinks not making any money or not being viable yet off no real proof of it whatsoever. Please don't think that a temporary rink will ever prove whether ice rinks make profits or not, temporary structures never will. The old Southampton rink did make money and was viable and is badly missed. Go take your comments somewhere else, they are certainly not wanted here.

Here is the proof from the BBC news site
"The majority of Scotland's remaining ice rinks are struggling to survive, a BBC Scotland survey has discovered. "

Full story follow this link
http://news.bbc.co.u


k/2/hi/uk_news/scotl


and/7336777.stm

Now regarding balanced debate can you tell me?
*if the rink is so profitable and viable there has not been any progress over the last 20 years.
*Why the dedicated skaters of
Southampton have not raised funds to at least contribute to their ice rink.
*Why the Poole park ice rink closed.
*Why planet ice have not already developed a rink in Southampton.

Finally debates should not be optimistic but realistic, as an ice rink supporter you will be optimistic, for my self as I have said before I support an ice rink but not the use of public funds to make it happen or run it once it starts. If Mark Warburg can get his 10 million let him get on with it, but do not rick my money/ taxes.

The story you refer to 'Stay Local' was nearly two years ago and thats your so called proof?

Redback, no the old rink didn't go bust, it was making a fair profit when Top Rank closed it after years of trying, all the way from 1963 when they first took it over.

www.southampton-viki

ngs.co.uk/history.ht

m

Aaargh! What a HIDEOUS website!!!!

Thanks for the info. I don't understand why they'd close it if it was profitable, but I'll go have a look at that link when my eyes can bear it (!)