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Councillors back plans for new ice rink in Southampton


TEN million pound plans for an Olympic ice rink complex in Southampton have been approved by councillors today.

Developer Colin Warburg wants to build a 56m x 26m ice pad, with seating for over 800 spectators, on the former Chantry Hall site in St Mary’s.

It could become home to a city-based ice hockey team and provide a home for figure skaters.

Skating fans have been crying out for a new rink to be built since Southampton’s Top Rank ice rink closed its doors for the last time in 1988. They currently have to travel to rinks in Gosport, Basingstoke or Guildford.

Fifty residents and other organisations have backed the plans which will also include shops, a café, and restaurant.

The complex is expected to create more than 110 jobs.

The proposed four-storey building will have 75 covered parking spaces.

The rink would open from 5am to 2am in the morning attracting some 260,000 skaters each year. Ice hockey matches will take place twice a fortnight at weekends.

Mr Warburg, who owns Warburg Property Development, said he had received overwhelming support for his scheme which he said would bring “considerable community benefits” to Southampton.

He insisted the project was financially viable despite temporary ice rinks put up by the council and Olympic skating star Robin Cousins in recent years both making losses.

Mr Warburg said: “Once planning has been received we will move forward to secure finance on the whole project. The economic position is different to what it was two years ago but we still have the banks on board to work with us on this project.”

Construction will take about 18 months meaning if approved the rink could open by early 2012.

Mr Warburg’s previous proposal for a £80m Olympic size rink and 28-storey apartment tower in St Mary’s Road, off the Charlotte Place roundabout, was scuppered when the council refused to sell him the land cheaply.

Edna Boden, secretary of the Southampton Ice Dance and Figure Skating Club, said: “We’re 150 per cent behind this.

It’s going to be absolutely fantastic.

We cannot wait to skate again this city. I wish him the best of luck.”

Council leisure boss councillor John Hannides also welcomed the proposal. “We would be very happy to see an ice rink in the city. We wish him every success.” But he said no public funds would be available.

The Grade II listed Chantry Hall was destroyed in an arson attack three years ago.

Mr Warburg now has to convince planners and councillors of the architectural and landscape merits to obtain full planning permission.

He also has to clarify how it will be used for other purposes, such as staging concerts.


Comments(33)

Mr Cynical says...
12:31pm Tue 20 Jul 10

"fifty residents..." i knew we all wanted an ice-rink! sold!

RRT says...
12:34pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Another Hire and Fire staff at will opportunity for Colin Warburg?

Ted Rogers says...
12:53pm Tue 20 Jul 10

IF approved, I hope that this facility constructed, funded and operated by private enterprise. (For obvious reasons)

StEmmosfire says...
12:54pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Mr Cynical wrote:
"fifty residents..." i knew we all wanted an ice-rink! sold!
and those 50 will also be working there!

stmarysmush says...
12:58pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Do the immigrants and dolel-ites get to use it free ?????? The place will be packed in this area. Great place to put it. Parking will be at a premium also.

Tommy News says...
1:02pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Great to see this private scheme get a step closer. It will help rejuvenate the area north of Ocean Village and be another attraction for the city to help establish it as the premier city in the South.

allsaintsnocurves says...
1:17pm Tue 20 Jul 10

I can't wait...I'd like a decent ice hockey team too in Southampton...maybe Marcus would like to invest...we could invite some NHL teams over to open it! The Boston Bruins would be good!

I can see some ice shows following as well...

It's been a long time coming!!!

Poppy22 says...
1:19pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Thought the old one closed before 1988 (?) and it's about time there was a replacement (could never understand why Southampton couldn't have a rink yet Gosport could manage it!). Not sure about locating it in St Mary's, though.

Family Man says...
2:12pm Tue 20 Jul 10

On a list of leisure priorities for Southampton, an ice rink would and could never be top..... however if ALL the financial risk sits with the private sector, and the taxpayer is completely protected, then so be it. I would be very surprised if it was both commercially viable and unsubsidised.

I still believe a much greater priority would be a sizeable multi-purpose and flexible indoor concert/exhibition/c
onference venue. There is nothing that comes anywhere even close in the 100 miles between Brighton and Bournemouth... and improving on the aging facilities offered by those two locations should not be too difficult. And they are more or less the only two sizable facilities on the whole of the south coast....
My problem is that by the time the City Council gets around to thinking about such a thing, there will be no suitable site left as they will have been given over to a combination of largely mediochre retail premises, hotels and "luxury apartments".

wilson castaway says...
2:28pm Tue 20 Jul 10

what happened to the snow dome thingy?

allsaintsnocurves says...
2:32pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Family Man wrote:
On a list of leisure priorities for Southampton, an ice rink would and could never be top..... however if ALL the financial risk sits with the private sector, and the taxpayer is completely protected, then so be it. I would be very surprised if it was both commercially viable and unsubsidised. I still believe a much greater priority would be a sizeable multi-purpose and flexible indoor concert/exhibition/c onference venue. There is nothing that comes anywhere even close in the 100 miles between Brighton and Bournemouth... and improving on the aging facilities offered by those two locations should not be too difficult. And they are more or less the only two sizable facilities on the whole of the south coast.... My problem is that by the time the City Council gets around to thinking about such a thing, there will be no suitable site left as they will have been given over to a combination of largely mediochre retail premises, hotels and "luxury apartments".
There are plans for this concert venue down by Mayflower park...and with the Rose Bowl having it's new facelift and the new Guildhall square that will be a large outdoor area for enterntainment and the inside Guildhall and the area proposed by the next phase of West Quay I would say southampton has it covered for exhibitions and concerts. There's always Southampton Common for a large outdoor concert venue that could be used like Hyde Park is in London.

shilo says...
2:32pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Won't happen, no profit in ice rinks these days.

allsaintsnocurves says...
2:33pm Tue 20 Jul 10

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Family Man wrote: On a list of leisure priorities for Southampton, an ice rink would and could never be top..... however if ALL the financial risk sits with the private sector, and the taxpayer is completely protected, then so be it. I would be very surprised if it was both commercially viable and unsubsidised. I still believe a much greater priority would be a sizeable multi-purpose and flexible indoor concert/exhibition/c onference venue. There is nothing that comes anywhere even close in the 100 miles between Brighton and Bournemouth... and improving on the aging facilities offered by those two locations should not be too difficult. And they are more or less the only two sizable facilities on the whole of the south coast.... My problem is that by the time the City Council gets around to thinking about such a thing, there will be no suitable site left as they will have been given over to a combination of largely mediochre retail premises, hotels and "luxury apartments".
There are plans for this concert venue down by Mayflower park...and with the Rose Bowl having it's new facelift and the new Guildhall square that will be a large outdoor area for enterntainment and the inside Guildhall and the area proposed by the next phase of West Quay I would say southampton has it covered for exhibitions and concerts. There's always Southampton Common for a large outdoor concert venue that could be used like Hyde Park is in London.
and not to mention St Mary's stadium as well!

Condor Man says...
2:49pm Tue 20 Jul 10

as long as no public money is spent it can only be a good thing

teh says...
2:52pm Tue 20 Jul 10

shilo wrote:
Won't happen, no profit in ice rinks these days.
First of all. Where are your facts?
Second of all. You obviously have no knowledge in this field of the industry as ice rinks like Gosport, Basingstoke and Guildford are ALWAYS full up and ALWAYS have hundreds of users in an evening.

teh says...
2:53pm Tue 20 Jul 10

I'll also add, we're in a conservative government now, so don't expect them to spend any public money on anything.

Brite Spark says...
3:03pm Tue 20 Jul 10

How many double decker buses will this be in size?

StEmmosfire says...
3:13pm Tue 20 Jul 10

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
I can't wait...I'd like a decent ice hockey team too in Southampton...maybe Marcus would like to invest...we could invite some NHL teams over to open it! The Boston Bruins would be good! I can see some ice shows following as well... It's been a long time coming!!!
BORING. Ice rinks are dull, snow dome is the way to go, it's cool and popular. Shops like Animal can establish themselves again, loads more potential than are boring outdated ice skating, move with the times SNOW BOARDING. How about a wave machine too for the surfers?

teh says...
4:40pm Tue 20 Jul 10

StEmmosfire wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
I can't wait...I'd like a decent ice hockey team too in Southampton...maybe Marcus would like to invest...we could invite some NHL teams over to open it! The Boston Bruins would be good! I can see some ice shows following as well... It's been a long time coming!!!
BORING. Ice rinks are dull, snow dome is the way to go, it's cool and popular. Shops like Animal can establish themselves again, loads more potential than are boring outdated ice skating, move with the times SNOW BOARDING. How about a wave machine too for the surfers?
How many snow domes do you know about in the UK? I've never heard of one.

StEmmosfire says...
5:29pm Tue 20 Jul 10

teh wrote:
StEmmosfire wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote: I can't wait...I'd like a decent ice hockey team too in Southampton...maybe Marcus would like to invest...we could invite some NHL teams over to open it! The Boston Bruins would be good! I can see some ice shows following as well... It's been a long time coming!!!
BORING. Ice rinks are dull, snow dome is the way to go, it's cool and popular. Shops like Animal can establish themselves again, loads more potential than are boring outdated ice skating, move with the times SNOW BOARDING. How about a wave machine too for the surfers?
How many snow domes do you know about in the UK? I've never heard of one.
There is in Tamworth and one in Bristol I think.

Condor Man says...
6:36pm Tue 20 Jul 10

the Tamworth Snow Dome gets visitors from all over the West Midlands - a massive catchment area. The other one is in Milton Keynes

OSPREYSAINT says...
6:48pm Tue 20 Jul 10

My goodness, a positive news report and all we get on here is a bunch of whingeing miseries harping on with the same old clap-trap, get a life and let others enjoy theirs, never could get the hang of skating myself, but did enjoy a good Ice Hockey match, where are the Vikings now?

cernan1772 says...
7:19pm Tue 20 Jul 10

I used to play hockey and before that skate a lot at the old rink so although it should be good news this development is grossly inadequate for a city the size of Southampton. The ice is undersize (ie not big enough for anything other than recreational or junior hockey to officially take place) so forget a decent hockey team. The plans submitted also showed no rom for penalty boxes on the other side of the ice to team benches. Only 800 seats when the old rink used to be packed out with more seating and the catchment area for Southampton has grown considerably since the old rink was knocked down. This is just a sneaky way for the council to shut people up about a rink and open up the West Quay phase 3 site (destined for an arena) for more shops!

THE BRICK says...
7:19pm Tue 20 Jul 10

I see the usual comments are left about it all being funded by private enterprise are here along with the same inane comments about an ice rink not being viable blah blah blah.

The plan was approved this afternoon and all the councillors enthusiastically backed the scheme. I know, I was there.

An ice rink in Southampton will be well used and will make a profit, just like the old was. Anyone who doesn't like the idea, don't use it. I can't stand football so I don't support any teams, its an individuals choice:)
Just be pleased that we will have something else apart from football, and somewhere families can go to keep fit.
There will be no 'public money' used in the scheme, in fact the developer has to pay the council money in various ways.

I see 'family man' has come out with the same dross as usual. If you don't like the idea of an ice rink, don't use it when its built, simple really

OSPREYSAINT the answer to your question is simple too. Google southampton vikings, thats where you find us, yes we do still exist, alive and kicking and many of the old Vikings and supporters still skate in Gosport.

Now I'm looking forward to the prospect of being able to get on the bus and go to the ice rink just like I used to 22 years ago:)

StEmmosfire says...
7:40pm Tue 20 Jul 10

THE BRICK wrote:
I see the usual comments are left about it all being funded by private enterprise are here along with the same inane comments about an ice rink not being viable blah blah blah. The plan was approved this afternoon and all the councillors enthusiastically backed the scheme. I know, I was there. An ice rink in Southampton will be well used and will make a profit, just like the old was. Anyone who doesn't like the idea, don't use it. I can't stand football so I don't support any teams, its an individuals choice:) Just be pleased that we will have something else apart from football, and somewhere families can go to keep fit. There will be no 'public money' used in the scheme, in fact the developer has to pay the council money in various ways. I see 'family man' has come out with the same dross as usual. If you don't like the idea of an ice rink, don't use it when its built, simple really OSPREYSAINT the answer to your question is simple too. Google southampton vikings, thats where you find us, yes we do still exist, alive and kicking and many of the old Vikings and supporters still skate in Gosport. Now I'm looking forward to the prospect of being able to get on the bus and go to the ice rink just like I used to 22 years ago:)
ICE RINK = Boring. White Elephant in the making...... SNOWDOME is the future. Just put a little 10 meter by 10 meter ice patch in the corner. As for people watching ice hockey, would we build a state of the art Baseball or American football stadium! As I said BORING BORING BORING, no wonder the top rank closed. Go to Gosport instead.

clausentum says...
7:51pm Tue 20 Jul 10

THE BRICK wrote:
I see the usual comments are left about it all being funded by private enterprise are here along with the same inane comments about an ice rink not being viable blah blah blah.

The plan was approved this afternoon and all the councillors enthusiastically backed the scheme. I know, I was there.

An ice rink in Southampton will be well used and will make a profit, just like the old was. Anyone who doesn't like the idea, don't use it. I can't stand football so I don't support any teams, its an individuals choice:)
Just be pleased that we will have something else apart from football, and somewhere families can go to keep fit.
There will be no 'public money' used in the scheme, in fact the developer has to pay the council money in various ways.

I see 'family man' has come out with the same dross as usual. If you don't like the idea of an ice rink, don't use it when its built, simple really

OSPREYSAINT the answer to your question is simple too. Google southampton vikings, thats where you find us, yes we do still exist, alive and kicking and many of the old Vikings and supporters still skate in Gosport.

Now I'm looking forward to the prospect of being able to get on the bus and go to the ice rink just like I used to 22 years ago:)
So, where is the 10 million quid to finance it?????????

Not going to materialise!!

simonsouth says...
8:06pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Well if private developers want to build it let them, will be a lot easier to get to than Gosport and lots of buses to the city centre or the station means you dont need to use a car to get there so no parking costs.

Atpost says...
8:17pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Ted Rogers wrote:
IF approved, I hope that this facility constructed, funded and operated by private enterprise. (For obvious reasons)
Feeling ok ted?

rmw says...
8:55pm Tue 20 Jul 10

Anyone got any wire wool - my Bauer Turbos (from Toomers) are a bit rusty!

pqp says...
11:00pm Tue 20 Jul 10

I must say don't take it as criticism but in the regard sports this country is a complete f--- up.

Even my poor central american country gives more support for people to do their physical activities than in England.

You go for a run in the Common and there isn't even a toilet.

There are not sports hall enough for the people which means that if a kid would like to learn, say, Basketball it would be so expensive.

Actually if this kid is a teenager he might find out that a gram of cocaine is cheaper than a Basketball session as the prices to rent a court in this First World country is extortionate.

Trust me when it comes to sport this country is a joke.

It's not criticism, it is not ungratefullness. It is just a fact

stmarysmush says...
6:11am Wed 21 Jul 10

rmw wrote:
Anyone got any wire wool - my Bauer Turbos (from Toomers) are a bit rusty!
lol......i was a bauer philedelfia man myself.

ToastyTea says...
9:48am Wed 21 Jul 10

this will never happen so bored of these dream ideas that come to nothing.
southampton will never have anything interesting or be known for anything else other then shops

wilson castaway says...
2:03pm Wed 21 Jul 10

Bring back the balloon festival!!!!


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